new toy. locals in the besieged libyan opposition stronghold bani walid lead to the international community for help but russia's attempts to stop the slaughter slaughtered by the year was. sidelined by the mainstream media and god from game between obama and romney would be overturned says for the u.s. president to get their voices heard right here on our screen. before trying to candidates raise issues that were not even touched upon in the debate between mitt romney and barack obama more on that coming up. those stairs he keeps pulling in spain pushing thousands to the streets as the government most shopping mall

constant and next year's budget. international news live from moscow this is all she was me hello and welcome to the program they situation of bani walid the last bastion of colonel gadhafi supporters in libya to be fast approaching a humanitarian catastrophe or supply to the city reportedly told bombs remain cutoff of living locals crying out for international rescue middle east correspondent reports now and you may find some of the pictures that disturbing. the siege of bani walid has been on the go for almost three weeks now and in the last week alone dozens of people have been killed and injured in the clashes between pro-government forces and bani walid fighters there are reports circulating

that quoted a libyan militia leader who says that the situation is under control and that the city has been cleared of gadhafi loyalists we are hearing the opposite from our sources on the ground they say that the situation is deteriorating by the minute we've also been receiving as of yet verified photographs and videos that show did dismembered bodies as well as slain children and also the alleged use of chemical weapon when we are hearing from doctors on the scene as well as i witness on the ground that many people are suffering from toxic gas poisoning and this doesn't line up with as of yet i'm confirmed reports we've been receiving of the gas from the shells being fired at the local population are using machinery to do more of it you. know you guys are going to just a few people going to know. we would know you wanted to know one of.

our family. is going to make. work that. no one. limited. we're going to while for many libyans since the former libyan leader moammar gadhafi was slain their lives have not changed anything for some it has deteriorated we are hearing from a number of people on the ground who say that for all his faults the one thing that gadhafi did bring the country was stability and there are a lot in parallels that are not been made between his regime and the current reign gadhafi for example was charged with using chemical weapons we are hearing the same kind of charges being made at the ruling regime at the same time good. afy was embroiled in mass executions we've been hearing from human rights watch of exposé days of atrocities as well as war crimes that have been carried out separate to this we're also hearing reports of double standards from many in the international

community people saying that on the one hand the west is quick to criticize the regime of the syrian president bashar assad like they did with that of gadhafi but when you see the same kind of atrocities being carried out now in bani walid the international community is quiet so this is raising alarm bells. russia's diplomatic efforts to end the bloodshed in bani walid it remained deadlocked with the you as a blocking moscow's drop proposal for a peaceful resolution of the u.n. security council the details now from new york correspondent maria port. the u.s. and western countries did not back the russian drafted press statement they said that they were they cited the need for further consultations now the russian envoy to the un to tell the churkin says in the aftermath of last month's deadly attack in benghazi that killed four americans it's quite surprising that the u.s. would be blocking a statement that is condemning the use of violence in dealing with libya's

political problems. says it's very strange and the behavior of the u.s. delegation with respect to the russian draft press statement in this situation is hard to rationally explain now this russian security council press statement on bani walid expressed grave concern about the escalation of violence in and around the city in particularly the reports of growing civilian casualties including children the statement also called the living authorities to take urgent steps to resolve the conflict by peaceful means and to preserve the rights of all libyan citizens in the statement also stressed the need to promote national reconciliation inclusive political dialogue in libya it was quite surprising to many of us journalists that were at the u.n. stakeout to find that there was no agreement made on this this russian draft press statement that essentially condemns this violence violence that began in the

beginning of october and we see is escalating but these conversations will clearly continue in the days to come. free men from the news magazine executive intelligence review believes an unstable washington how did it scholars are right from the beginning. the ambassador from russia made a perfectly reasonable proposal to quiet down the violence and he would expect that the united states as a superpower would respond in a rational manner the problem is that president obama and his u.n. envoy susan rice there they are not interested in developing peace in libya and in the whole middle east area and therefore they're going to torpedo any moves that the russians make that would tend to quiet the situation down and they're working with elements of qaeda in libya and in syria and inside their work with the very

elements of al qaeda that. are the assassination of our master so they're not looking for peace they're going to try to escalate the situation in syria now it's going into lebanon in libya and we could lead to one step there for another two a bigger confrontation. while the general between barack obama and to me tranny is still the limelight in the u.s. search party candidates for the presidency but i got to mention but this channel has offered them a platform by broadcasting a live debate between the tentative names on the november spot and it has been listening and priors. the four alternative candidates who were debating this tuesday night in chicago did raise a number of issues that were never even touched upon in the debates between mitt romney and barack obama there was a lot of critique of course they discuss money in politics their claim is that washington was bought and paid for by special interests they discuss the indefinite detention of americans see as the president obama signed something that the two

party candidates never talked about during the major debates and here is joel signs where marks on the issue she's the nominee from the green party in front of the trail of our civil liberties that the president has assumed dictatorial rights to put us in prison at his leisure without charge or without trial among other things sweeping powers of the patriot act also something that you don't hear much about in the mainstream media the crackdown on whistleblowers by the obama administration and of course the military judging by their remarks he could very well understand why there are outsiders in this election all of them were saying the u.s. should stop military intervention and all of them do not see much difference between barack obama and mitt romney especially on foreign policy take a listen we're going to find ourselves with the continued heightened police state in this country we're going to find ourselves continuing to militarily intervene in the world which results has resulted in hundreds of millions of enemies to this

country that wouldn't otherwise exist we know the republican democrats some differences but both of them morphed into a square produced anti-democratic force that has betrayed. human and civil rights these candidates are going to be on balance but not in all states they were also talking about how hard it is for an independent candidate to get on those ballots in the u.s. that every state has its own intricate rules lots of signatures and that essentially it requires a lot of money to get on the ballot and all of these candidates know they don't stand a chance to win this election but as larry king the moderator of this debate said that their voices in it may not be counted on november the sixth but they deserve to be heard. and i'll see how some harassment a part of a k. a band on his side says prosecutions that will continue to be barred from the big picture until they start pressuring to corporate interests the seizure of

constitutional rights. the right to not be snooped upon the right let's not be arrested and held without charges that the right to be. to not be killed without due process of law these are all things largely started out of the bush administration had been continued by the obama administration and the think there was virtually unanimous consent across the group that they were opposed to so you see the far a lot from the far right moves they don't out to be moneyed interests there and i am any advertising going to lose the election if we were to structurally change the electoral system in the united states if we were to require the media to carry free fair and open debates if we were to publicly funded daniels if we were to ban political advertising needs are things that are done in many of the major a democracy and so the world right now then i think it would be possible for these

third party candidates to remain true to their values and. have you know a successful electoral effort but as long as those that are us supreme court continues to assert money its is the same thing as speech that it's not property and corporations are not legal fictions that they're actually people it's going to be damn ard. so in other world news for you this hour the u.s. has a vital lebanese efforts to form a new coalition government made of rising tension in the country washington their announcement follows similar sentiments from the e.u.'s foreign policy chief catherine ashton has been visiting the capital beirut said she was encouraged by efforts to forge a national dialogue to bring back stability and while the arm say the army rather says it's brokered a ceasefire in the country's northern city of tripoli after two nights of pointing

that killed at least ten and wounded over sixty people security is high in the country after violent clashes between police and protesters erupted last week over the killing of a top intelligence official. the u.n. security council is expected to hear russia's proposals or syria the draft document is calling on damascus and the opposition to maintain a cease fire during the upcoming four day holiday or read of the feast of sacrifice so far not the south wind neither the government nor the rebels have committed to the truce meanwhile fierce battles continued battles continue in syria's north where rebels are fighting to capture a base near the highway used by government to supply its soldiers in the city of aleppo activists say self-will two people were killed in the area last week. more than eight thousand striking gold miners have been sucked in south africa after ignoring a deadline set by their bosses for them to resume work last week thousands of other employees accepted the company's ultimatum and returns to work after

a series of mass walkouts south africa's mining sector has been hit by a wave of strikes of the pay and working conditions that have led to dozens of people died in the last two months. and if you minutes on all see the british health care system which is still a feeling. we trust the truth. right . oh i can't think of anything but the word. with mine slow down. in some fatal new case. you can tell an ordinary russian. in the blink of an.

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decide to participate. when you look upon martin. as in the middle of a swamp only accessible by. balsa split the dogs it's inhabited by siberian a large muslim minority that migrated to before the russians. this. is real siberia maybe not the stuff of tourist brochures but distinctive enough to show that all these yeahs siberia still that was like a euro. culture

is that so much of. which are. on it until you get it it's probably going mitt romney revealed a little major difference between the two and their approaches to security in foreign affairs many clearly.

you're watching aussies great to have you with us let's continue now thousands of protesters have yet again park the streets of madrid and that message they come tumble anymore crippling austerity as comes as the government draws up its budget for next year and has already warned it's going to ports. protests like this one are becoming something of a regularity in spain in fact we're being told told by people here that there are over eighty protests. it's happening in madrid alone so there are hundreds happening all over the country now spaniards are highly dissatisfied with the way their government has been dealing with trying to solve the financial crisis in the country they're saying that their representatives who are sitting in the parliament are not representing the people who are standing here that their problems are not being even thought about in the parliament now what are these people worried about they're worried about the social programs first and foremost health care education aid for the elderly they are also worried about the fact that spain has one of the

highest unemployment rates in the european union which is about twenty five first then it has the highest youth unemployment rate which is that over fifty percent right now now the international agency moody's has downgraded four of spain's regions including catalonia which is the richest regions in spain considering the fact that the country is going through its second recession in three years and with this downgrade right now with the central bank saying that spain's economy is shrinking and again with the unemployment going up we can we can assume that it's not long before spain is going to officially ask for a bailout it hasn't done it yet so there is no nothing definite no different from nation but it does seem like spain is edging closer towards that point. and the u.k. trade union is one of massive industrial unrest if a two year pay freeze in the health care system is extended their sources claim any rise in these difficult economic times is simply an affordable but a walkout what are they was all the national health services which has reports as

already in losing the trust of the people. who are clearly in agony but in supposedly safe hands in hospital that's what janine harvey says distort when she came down with severe hit pain last december despite over forty visits to doctors in three different hospitals janine cervical cancer went on diagnosed birmingham city hospital. doctors here failed to spot janine harvey's cancer not once but twice all the hospitals missed it too exposing her side of the barrel that led to the death of the thirty three year old mother of four just months later her family now say they want to name a story to be heard so that others can avoid a similar freights at one point doctors even suggested that jeanine's excruciating pain was all in her mind but her post-mortem examination showed that

a cancerous tumor had grown so large inside her that it had shattered her pelvic bone janine's family gets upset when people ask why they didn't pay for costly private care they say britain's national health service was once the pride of britain but their trust in it has broken you know. the resources that you know what we needed to go private we felt we trusted them we trusted their every word janine isn't the only patient to be failed by the n.h.s. somewhere around sixty percent of deaths in hospitals. or something else happen but potentially was avoidable and has potentially contributed to that there so it's a it's a big number of people that's one thousand patients a month a recent study by the national institute of health research says that one patient in ten is affected by potentially serious medical errors half of whom die as

a result such as twenty two year old cane gorney he died from dehydration from a combination of misdiagnosis and what the coroner called the incompetence of n.h.s. start it's definitely a problem that patients are repeatedly coming to us with. reporting face a similar nature to that which happened. janine harvey the n.h.s. trust responsible for janine's care says we are extremely sorry for any distress caused to the family we can understand the need for answers and this is what our internal investigation process is about examining what lessons there are to be learnt and making changes if there's anything that needs to be changed janine's family are now turning their tragedy into forming a charity to give other people with complicated medical conditions a chance to get a second medical opinion privately before it's too late it's impossible for so many

individual consultants to to make so many errors it must be the system it must be some major major or the lack of communication to negligence is leaving someone you know whether bed or knowing it's all i can't think of any other word for it. was my own slaughter it was it was. just janine harvey's family say they can only hope that lessons will be learned and that no one else ever suffers the same way. polly boyko r t london. time now for a quick business have their resume tree high there so new ratings agency isn't to appear to compete who have s. and p. and moody's dmitri that is rides and rushes among the countries which are organizing this new agency it's supposed to be independent of any national

corporate interests and actually investor june rogers where i spoke to an hour ago he said it's a great idea except the big three's than the boards moody's and fitch are going to try and undermine it. but they've got a joint venture with an american company which is one of the few independent voices which have gotten things right in the past few years so this world needs desperately it's not u.s. based it's not u.s. centric there will be a huge demand it will take them a while to convince the market but i'm convinced there is a huge market need i know their partners i admire their partners and i certainly know the chinese and the russians want to do it right all right let's take a look at what's happening on the markets and this is the opening picture well one hour into the opening in russia with the r.t.s. now recovering one percent after losing two percent d.m.k. b.p. shares fell on tuesday to the lowest the historical level ever after basically

uncertainty on what's going to happen with minority shareholders but now they're recovering one half percent. in the head of ross never said that basically they're preparing a conversion program within the next six months to convert to be chosen to rostam move over to europe where the footsie on the dax opened with a minor gain volvo's losing seven percent reporting disappointing third quarter results now and let's take a look at what happened in asia as a naked that is down point seven percent hang signs of it down that's after the news that we've heard the china as manufacturing came in at an almost expansion level that was big a loss this before that's the best kind of growth a bit of optimism especially in hong kong and in the u.s. we've had a very bad session with the dow jones declining almost two percent and a big drag on the nasdaq were apple shares now they lost more than three percent

after the company unveiled a less expensive and smaller version of the i pad now of the price of the anticipated tablet appeared to be much higher compared with the similar gadgets on the market spurring concerns over expected sales apple also introduced a wide range of other. projects but that did not help much to the firm's shares performance on tuesday. and finally in currencies we are seeing the russian ruble still declining it's about give us currencies well the euro and the dollar flags. and that's it from this edition of the business news coming up next on our see the latest round of u.s. presidential hopefuls debate is up for debate itself in crosstalk with peter. the sun rises over what seems like and lost forest but here in new directions quite hundred kilometers north of light of all stalk as in much of the world it's

disappearing at a catastrophic rate. mockers both illegal and those finding ways to outsmart the system for filing down the forest of a more skewed region for them profit goes well beyond the future of our planet and the result could be an ecological crisis the world wildlife fund for nature makes regular trips to help local rangers do what little they can to stop the logging but it's not easy lager set up trucks making them hard to reach in an already rough terrain and have mastered ways to jump through legal loopholes this is a nature reserve we're only sanitary logging of disease trees is allowed according to law and not a single berry can be picked but loggers like this use their sanitary logging permit to cut down absolutely healthy trees and sell the profitable timber over the border in china we are on the hunt for illegal loggers and it's not going to be

easy to forests. and their chances are slim now for now we can stay in our dreams but as soon as we find quality tracks we'll have to drop our wheels and get out silently in order not to scare the loggers off alexander someone in ca has been a ranger for over twenty five years he can spend weeks at a time tracking a single group of loggers easier to work when snow falls in autumn it's impossible to find human genetics and even transport tracks are hard to see after hours of driving we get sent in the right direction by word of mouth you can see that the ground is soft here which means that there's twelve the tractor trails are very fresh which in fact means that we need to be quite. in order to not scare them off as we get closer. this team says they're illegal but have no documents now xander can now call the police to take over his work here is done he's overwhelmingly outnumbered there are too few rangers working in the promote

the region and the w w f says the government isn't doing enough to stop it i guess the government now is they started so therefore more for all forest legislation so assumes the pals and so on regards a new forest court and according to. every forest service the guys in waltham in the in the forest to the still. forest courts deal doesn't work just you should do it because no one tries to stop them in just five years the force will be gone they'll sell it all to china what will the people who live afterwards do like it's a question more and more people are aware of today climate change and the safety of our environment as a whole are being discussed around the world and perhaps it's those small steps that might be a start to people living in harmony with nature. and

. to. follow in welcome the cross talk i'm peter lavelle the debate that well really didn't happen candidates barack obama and mitt romney revealed that little major difference between the two in their approaches to security and foreign affairs many claim obama won this third in last debate however it is not at all clear if romney actually lost is there any public debate left when it comes to american foreign policy. and. stared. across the u.s. presidential debate i'm joined by my guest in new york why he is a partner at democratic spring strategies micah halpern he is a columnist and a social and political commentator and.