moammar gadhafi is busy former stronghold is said to be sliding towards a humanitarian catastrophe while libya's pro-government fighters claim they're controlling the city center. they then tomorrow go war america's wars take the influence of big money out of politics the presidential candidates forced into the sidelines get their voices heard in a t.v. debate aired by r t. the as u.k. help workers threaten to strike over pay losses a spate of negligence cases chances for patient care.

hello and welcome to our team with me karen terrill to broadcasting to lot from our studio in moscow where it is seven o'clock now libyan pro-government forces say they've occupied the center of the opposition stronghold of bani walid with only a few pockets of resistance left dozens have been killed in recent shelling to and the almost three weeks long siege which has left the city on the brink of a humanitarian disaster paula slayer reports. what is important to note is that all these reports of bani walid has fallen all coming from pro-government forces we in fact are hearing quite the opposite from our own sources we are hearing that fighting continues if anything it has intensified now as nearly three weeks comes since the fighting began we are also hearing that the city has not fallen now it does seem as if hundreds of pro-government fighters have made their way into the

city center they've been seen hoisting flags onto abandoned buildings and also firing in the air but certainly this does not suggest that the whole city has fallen earlier we spoke with a man in north africa his family is in bani walid and he gives us an update of what the situation there was like. no. just a few people. would know you wanted to know one of. our family. i got this time. to work. where no one. limited. now we've also been receiving reports that the army has arrested at least eighty former gadhafi henchmen it accuses them of being involved in torture and murder this is other

reports are circulating that the release of some forty hostages has taken place by government forces most people have fled according to the red cross some five thousand families which stands at around twenty five thousand people have fled to neighboring cities and towns but this figure is far below the total number of people who we understand have been made refugees by the situation we continue to receive unverified photographs as well as video of dismembered bodies of children that have been slain. and we continue to hear reports of the use of chemical weapons we are reminded that we are being told that shells that contain gas are being fired on the local population with i would missiles and doctors at the scene telling us that many people are suffering from poisoned gas inhalation on tuesday the united nations security council did have a session at that session and russia put forward a draft statement in which of course all the fighting in bani walid to be ended for

some kind of him to be brought to the ongoing violence now that statement was stopped by the united states and moscow has responded by saying that if i'm see american actions strange and difficult to explain certainly they're difficult to explain if you remember that just last month for us citizens were killed in benghazi in libya and in response to that washington bought out all the stops to try and deal with the situation you have a situation where more and more people are saying that no one really cares about what is happening. and you compare this to the almost mass hysteria in the mainstream western media and the international community in terms of what is happening today in syria in the past russia and china were blamed for voting against resolutions in libya so more people are saying that what we have at the moment on the table is a very clear example of double standards in terms of how the west deals with crises

such as these on the on the go. at turkey using colonel gadhafi of committing crimes against his people the u.s. wasted little time intervening in libya last year just of trying to let it go i was from hong kong city university thinks washington is contradicting itself by blocking efforts to mediate a peaceful solution. if certainly. ocracy don't. want to have one assess. the. neutral. in his own obvious the court did arche. national interests and the united states influence in libya the united states certainly believes libya is very much in this or you know pocket of the united states and its major nato allies you certainly want to be in full control of the libyan situation. and oil interests one of the considerations and it does not

want to see you go when sion interferences from other countries especially from russia. bring america's foreign wars to a close withdrawal corporate cash from politics and stop indefinite detention all election promises but not ones you'll find of the manifestoes of barack obama or mitt romney there are other names on the ballot in the u.s. presidential election and are to help them air their views by broadcasting an alternative live debate r.t. if you can has been listening and. before alternative candidates who were debating this tuesday night in chicago did raise a number of issues that were never even touched upon in the debates between mitt romney and barack obama there was a lot of critique of course they discuss money in politics their claim is that washington was bought and paid for by special interests they discuss the indefinite detention of americans see as the president obama's sign something that the two

party candidates never talk about during the major debates and here is joel signs where marks on the issue she is the nominee from the green party. crowd on the trail of our civil liberties that the president has assumed dictatorial rights to put us in prison at his pleasure without charge or without trial among other things sweeping powers of the patriot act also something that you don't hear much about in the mainstream media the crackdown on whistleblowers by the obama administration and of course the military judging by their remarks he could very well understand why they are outsiders and that's what i've showed all of them were saying the u.s. should stop military intervention and all of them do not see much difference between barack obama and mitt romney especially on foreign policy take a listen we're going to find ourselves with the continued heightened police state in this country we're going to find ourselves continuing to militarily intervene in the world which result has resulted in hundreds of millions of enemies to this

country that wouldn't otherwise exist we know the republican democrats some differences but both of them morphed into a military square produced anti-democratic force that has betrayed basic human and civil rights these candidates are going to be on balance but not in all states they were also talking about how hard it is for an independent candidate to get on those ballots in the u.s. that every state has its own intricate rules lots of signature and that essentially it requires a lot of. no money to get on the ballot and all of these candidates know they don't stand a chance to win this election but as larry king the moderator of this debate said there are voices that may not be counted on november the sixth but they deserve to be heard before taking the stage third party candidates talked to a panel of the events organizers and tom hartman host of the big picture here on our team he says the debate is opening our eyes of many voters and could shape the

future of the nation's political system rather than changing political outcomes right now in this election cycle is it might get enough but particularly young people interested and involved in the political process movement all the states will bring about that change might take you know years of might take decades but i think that this is the sort of thing you can see if we were to structurally change the electoral system in the united states if we were to require the media to curie free fair and open debates if we were to publicly funded candidates if we were to ban political advertising these are things that are done in many of the major with a democracy and so the world right now and i think it would be possible for these third party candidates to remain true to their values and. have you know a successful electoral effort but as long as the state of our u.s. supreme court continues to assert that money is the same thing in speech that it's not property in the corporations are not legal fictions that they're actually

people it's going to be damn hard. georgia's president is to blame for the war with russia four years ago so says the leader of the country's newly elected ruling party here's our details. georgia's prime minister in waiting bidzina ivanishvili whose opposition movement won in a recent elections stood up in front of the georgian parliament under tact his opponent mikhail saakashvili and his party for provoking the two thousand and eight war over south sets here calling it a grand provocation he addressed directly saakashvili m p's saying that you are to blame for the current damaged relations with russia and that the americans and europeans recognize this he went on to say that he does consider south are said to be part of georgian territory but he's also hopeful for the future of that sort of

intially the status just toss out the set yes and also our scars yes that should know the territory which was contested can be agreed with russia and relations could then improve the casualty figures for the five day war which started in august two thousand and eight range from the hundreds to over a thousand it started when georgian troops attacked the territory of sulphur setia russia then responded to protect its citizens living there and pushed the georgians out shortly after the war georgia broke all diplomatic ties with russia and russia recognize the independence of both south and our cars here a deadly medical error has sent shock waves through people's trust in britain's health service. we trust people there we trusted their every word toy i can't think of any the word. was mostly also

a cataloger fatal flaws in the u.k. his health care system just as the governmental increasingly turns its back wound up to. the nurses will report shortly. the government of spain is accused of turning on the nation's most vulnerable with thousands protesting against more cuts set out for next year all this just ahead. as his day starts at five am even earlier in the winter tending to his flock of story hundred sheep in the mountains and plains of t.v. thirty five years old it wasn't the life he dreamt of having studied accounting but he dition unfamiliar duty dictated that he would take on the care of these animals after his father has just made camp at their winter farm stage setting up his ute judicial to fenian round tent made of diskin. he's pleased to be back amongst his family as his job is

a lonely one and tough going out in all weathers braving extremes of plus to minus forty degrees celcius says there are there are certain difficulties there's not enough time for everything i'm almost alone my sister works with my mother my mother is seventy five she's very old and i miss mountains when i'm in town and i spend a lot of time here right now probably sort of most of us simply carrying out the work that his father did and his father before him nothing has changed over many many centuries and that's half the problem it's hard work and many people don't want to come into the industry now and it's really fit there could die out altogether. it's difficult to manage everything alone i used to have people who helped me but they were no good they didn't take care of the sheep with all their hearts they hurt the cattle. with more people leaving than coming to the countryside the region's government is having to act making the life of the herd

a more attractive than promising largest producer and livestock and organizing cooperatives for the sale of day products to ensure the herd it gets a higher fair price i sympathizes with those youngsters leaving for an easier more profitable life in the public's capital. but he no longer wishes to join them he enjoys his pastoral way of life and looking for a helper who shares his enthusiasm with more time on his hands he says matter of fact he can start to look for a new wife. welcome back to our two law from moscow and karen tower arching sudan's accusing israel of carrying out a missile attack on its weapons factory near the capitol dome some israeli officials are said to believe that the facility has ties to iran depots running by

a sudanese state owned company which produces weapons under license from iran several people had to go to hospital after suffering smoke inhalation one far from the blast spread over a wide area. british health workers are threatening a walkout over the government spending cuts unions say they're enduring a tree or pay freeze which could be extended as well as an increased workload all of which is ruining medical staff morale what's more the nation's health service is already losing the trust of the people it serves as polly boyko now reports. are clearly in agony but in supposedly safe hands in hospital that's why. janine harvey says distort when she came down with severe hit pain last december despite over forty visits to doctors in three different hospitals janine cervical cancer went on diagnosed rhyming in city hospital doctors here failed to spot janine harvey's cancer not once but twice all the hospitals missed it too exposing parts of the

virus but let's have the death of the thirty three year old mother of four just months later her family now say they want to mean story to be heard so that others can avoid a similar freights at one point doctors even suggested that jeanine's excruciating pain was all in her mind but her post-mortem examination showed that a cancerous tumor had grown so large inside her that it had shattered her pelvic bone. family gets upset when people ask why they didn't pay for costly private care you know. with all the resources that you know what we made it to go private we felt we trusted we trusted their every word janine isn't the only patient to be failed by the n.h.s. somewhere around sixty percent of deaths in hospitals. or something else happen but

potentially was avoidable and have potentially contributed to that that's one thousand patients a month a recent study by the national institute of health research says that one patient in ten is affected by potentially serious medical errors half of whom die as a result such as twenty two year old cane gorney she died from dehydration from a combination of misdiagnosis and what the coroner called the incompetence of n.h.s. start it's definitely a problem that patients are repeatedly coming to a. with. reporting from a similar nature to that which happened to janine harvey the n.h.s. trust responsible for janine's care says we are extremely sorry for any distress caused to the family we can understand the need for says and this is what our internal investigation process is about examining what lessons there are to be

learnt and making changes if there's anything that needs to be changed janine's family are now turning their tragedy into forming a charity to give other people with complicated medical conditions a chance to get a second medical opinion privately before it's too late it's impossible for so many individual consultants to to make so many errors it must be the ceased it must be this. major or the lack of community trying to negligence is leaving someone you know work better all knowing it's all i can think of any other word for . months long after. polly boyko r t london. it seems blowing the whistle can land you in prison especially for a former cia agent who revealed the torture of suspected terrorists he's been

sentenced to two and a half years in prison as we report online. and who is this phantom football around a strange figures one of the monks celebrating porto files on a photo taken during a us they have been fully match. anger over spanish austerity deepens as thousands marched out to stop the government from imposing fresh karts next year's budget will slash benefits further and leave even more of the population on the breadline aren't his arena goal scorer reports from madrid. protests like this one are becoming something of a regularity in spain in fact we're being told told by people here that there are over eighty protests happening in madrid alone so there are hundreds happening all over the country now spaniards are highly dissatisfied with the way their government has been dealing with trying to solve the financial crisis in the country they're saying that their representatives who are sitting in the parliament are not representing the people who are standing here but their problems are not

being even thought about in the parliament now what are these people worried about they're worried about the social programs first and foremost health care education aid for the elderly they are also worried about the fact that spain has one of the highest unemployment rates in the european union which is about twenty five percent it has the highest youth unemployment rate which is that over fifty percent right now now the internationally just the moody's has downgraded four of spain's regions including catalonia which is the richest regions in spain considering the fact that the country is going through its second recession in three years and with this downgrade right now with the central bank saying that spain's economy is shrinking and again with the unemployment going up we can we can assume that it's not long before spain is going to officially ask for a bailout it hasn't done it yet so there's no nothing definite no different from ation but it does seem like spain is edging closer towards that point battered by cuts predicts spain could soon be the next economy burdened with an e.u.

bailout but journalist. as prime minister marianna jorge seems happy to push austerity to its limits. those deficit targets are impossible to meet everybody knows that so the government is counting on the e.u. to establish star gets now the problem is that isn't it targets doesn't mean that the government is going to ease its acerbity policies in fact the e.u. tried to extraordinary said that spain is doing too much is doing more than the specter so let's say that we have in spain. a very a very much of an activist prime minister who volunteers more austerity then it's neither it's by the creditors quite an extraordinary thing i really now there's something new and is that germany is not keen on spain asking for the bailout because that would open the way for what is known as mr drug use ice cream but he's a scheme by the european central bank to buy and limited quantities of bonds from

the spanish debt the germans that's one that they don't want that and so they want to block the only way to block that he says for a not asking for the bailout so unless all these things are solved well it will take still a few weeks but yes i think ultimately spain will go for the bailout more of the world's news right now a suspected u.s. drone missile attack in pakistan has killed three people and injured two children strikes hit a compound believed to house militants along with civilians according to the local military the u.s. has been heavily criticized for hundreds of civilian deaths including children in its attacks aimed at al qaida members along pakistan's border with afghanistan. syria's rebels could soon be using u.s. made anti-aircraft weapons russia says the armed opposition now has some serious american firepower at its disposal which washington authorities are yet to confirm meanwhile the u.n. envoy to syria says the government there has agreed to a cease fire during the board

a lot of one festival. and will decide for sure on thursday. the israeli air force has reportedly fired on gaza killing at. least four militants two explosions struck the city in the latest series of air strikes in the region it's the second straight day of raids by israel's military television claims the offensive was in response to rocket attacks from the palestinian side it strikes follow a visit by the american heart to the blockaded enclave the first arab leader to do so. let's get some business news with katie so the domination of the three global rating agencies may be under threat is that right potentially karen yes or not because several agencies from different countries are now joining forces to create a global competitor to the top three the u.s. agencies moody's fitch and s. and p. i'm talking about on the new right is a fully independent i will not represent any country old business great all t's naipaul explains for us there are only three credit ratings agencies with global

reach moody's standard and poor's and fitch but they are all american and some would say subject to the same kinds of street bias all three have had a bad financial crisis failing to predict in two thousand and eight the imminent downturn at the time they were giving the highest possible credit rating to securities associated with the u.s. housing market surely to prompted the crisis they also failed to spot what was going on and always since shortly before it collapsed and as recently as two thousand and knowing moody's was saying that investor concerns about greece would perhaps misplaced but despite this less than stellar track record a new global agency is not going to have it all its own way it will need to establish its own credibility and this can only be done by showing long term accurate and reliable analysis that is going to take some time. and stay with the topic which is haynesworth general director of one of the firms involved in the

project says what they're trying to do is offer a different opinion to the world. the american new york centric view of the world does not take into account many of the strengths that exist in different in the countries because they put asian companies lower the u.s. companies and yet the asian companies are doing better. and we caught up with legendary investor jim largest to get his view on the idea and he says it's a great idea the big three will try to undermine. but they've got a joint venture with an american company which is one of the few independent voices which have gotten things right in the past few years so this of the world needs this desperately it's not u.s. based it's not u.s. centric though they'll be a huge demand it will take them a while to convince the market but i'm convinced there is a huge market need i know their partners i admire their partners and i certainly

know the chinese and the russians want to do it right. ok let's have a look at how the russian market is holos not the session as you can see it was a mix before months not all the rating agencies moody's has but what's next on review not software that multibillion dollar purchase of teen k b p not despite bond is actually the top candidates today over three and a half percent as for the ruble you can see it minus again against the basket the euro continues sounds play a lot of time on the pricing data for the whole of the year area contract in germany in particular pulling seaward choose mom clothes check out the european markets and they had some good news coming from china's fine tree data better than expected and not news is helping to support the u.s. markets as well as bonus downs sells of new american airlines rose two so that was good news and facebook is up by about twenty percent off that pulte results on included signs of improvement in its mobile advertising business ok that's the

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blind. would be soo much brighter if you need both. from silence to questions. please start time t. dot com. and if you. still. need to. follow in welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle the debate that well really didn't happen candidates barack obama and mitt romney revealed little major difference between the two in their approaches to security in foreign affairs many claim obama won this third in last debate however it is not at all clear if romney actually lost is there any public debate left when it comes to american foreign policy.