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my name is kevin owen our top story tonight at eleven pm moscow time there are conflicting reports on what's happening in libya's besieged city of bani walid some reports say pro-government forces are now fully controlling the opposition stronghold while others say fighting is continuing ok well let's go to a correspondent paula slayer for the latest paula hi there is it possible to confirm tonight what's really happening now in the city. i know it's not possible to confirm because we continue to receive contradictory reports as to what is happening inside bani walid on the one hand we're hearing from pro-government sources that the city has fallen and that it is in the hands of the army but we're hearing exactly the opposite from our own sources both on the ground in bani walid as well as in europe and africa and those are people who have family inside the city and who hearing firsthand information now it's taken us almost three days to

make contact with a local resident of the city that also gives you a sense of whether or not the national transitional council statement that the situation is under control is in fact accurate we spoke with a woman who is both an activist and a lawyer and she had this to tell us. the situation is very difficult the city is almost completely destroyed residents are buried in the rubble many among the victims are children and the elderly there are even more children and elderly using your channel we're appealing to the whole world our city is dying what's happening in bani walid everyone just attacked it is just armed forces where's our legitimate government where is the national council they announce a country of law a country of justice where are they why can't we see them. now red cross international has said that some twenty five thousand people have fled the city to neighboring with this is more than a quarter of the population we also continue to receive and there are five reports

and footage of wide scale massacres of the use of poison gas and also indiscriminate shelling by the wily television is also bore costing almost non of stop pictures of dead and dying children we have spoken with a man who has family inside the besieged town who are not naming him for security purposes but he has told us that the militants are blocking the city their children and elderly are screaming from both hunger as well as heavy artillery firing he went on to say there are people inside the procedure town i extremely frightened. there is no our government force very large block and no are. able of most of them. because the children. screaming from love or food or reducing for everything the used machinery here if

you do demolish houses they attack it by. far the use. of getting guys is intermarriages you need forbidden. civilian people inside. and their claws are for and befitting everything for the city. earlier this month the libyan government ordered its army to use all necessary means to deal with bani walid and what we continue to see is a situation that all accounts were manes dire indeed all the people in the city have been appealing for you and help the question is is their voice being heard reuben if it is going to be action well it certainly doesn't seem as if the voice of the people inside by me while it is being heard for starters on the cheers day at the united nations security council russia did put forward a draft statement that called for

a peaceful resolution to this ongoing crisis now the united states blocked this and the response from russia was that the blocking was behavior that was difficult to explain particularly in light of the fact that four american embassy officials were killed in the country last month so you do have fingers being pointed at both the united states and others in the international community and accusing them of double standards these are countries and capitals that on the one hand are so quick to blame the syrian president bashar assad but are very slow to take action when you have a massacre like is like what is happening in bani walid. paula slayer thanks very much. well earlier we got reaction on the besieged bani walid from libya's leadership i spoke to mohammed save from libya's national transitional council and i asked him whether the lives of women the children are worth the fighting for you . and your colleagues. you would have to take the full picture

we are taking care of the family and everything the family. been taking out of been awarded houses and everyone we've spoken to families. we've spoken to families at least two families and they're saying that is not the case there is an intense amount of pressure there still. well you see where the government force attacking a place where there are outlaws hided of course it won't be easy it's like a thirty second operation there will be some small mistakes but the whole picture the whole thing is being. benefic the we are taking care of all the family all the. really all the women houses are ready for them food everything we're not getting that picture can i ask you that there's been

reports of chemical weapons being used in fact artie's obtained a fax from doctors purportedly in the city which says victims are suffering from toxic gas poisoning if you got any comment on that. these are lies these are lies i trust the guys who are over there i trust our forces there are muslim there are human values are very high i have lots of trust and confidence there will never use these things been used during the days of the dictator of the monitor he did use lots of things like this but for our forces all of them they have. again and the thing is they have values they have a rule they will never hold and they will never break their value. size with libya's national transitional council but earlier.

this is arctic shortly we'll bring you one of the alternative voices standing in the us election these are a third party candidates we're talking about who want to end wars and take think corporate influence our jobs of politics if only they got the chance reporting on also bringing the stories well of deadly errors in britain's health service to. it's impossible for so many individual consultants to like so many areas it must be this beast oh i can't think of any other word for it in a sense this month rolls out the catalogue of fatal flaws in new cars health care system just as the government increasingly turns its back on doctors and nurses just a couple of the stories we've got lined up for you after this break. this

is day starts at five am even earlier in the winter tending to his flock of story hundred sheep in the mountains and pains of teavana thirty five years old it wasn't the life he dreamt of having studied accounting but you just unfamiliar he dictated that he would take on the care of these animals after his father. he's just made camp at their winter farm stage setting up his ute judicial to fenian round tent made of disc ins his p.c. back amongst his family and his job is a lonely one and tough going out in all weathers braving streams of plus to minus forty degrees celsius it's just that i just don't there are certain difficulties there's not enough time for everything i'm almost alone my sister works with my mother my mother is seventy five she's very old and i miss mountains when i'm in town and i spend a lot of time here probably most of us simply carrying out the work that his father

did and his father before him nothing has changed over many many centuries and that's half the problem it's hard work and many people don't want to come into the industry now and that's where they fit their could die out altogether. it's difficult to manage everything alone i used to have people who helped me but they were no good they didn't take care of the sheep with all their hearts they hurt the cattle dogs them with new people leaving them coming to the countryside the region's government is having to act making the life of the herd and more attractive than promising largest subsidies for the countryside and livestock and organizing cooperatives for the sale of day put out to ensure the herd a get the highest fair price i asked sympathizes with those youngsters leaving for an easier more profitable life day in their publics capital because ill but he no longer wishes to join them he enjoys his pastoral way of life now looking for a helper who shares his enthusiasm but more time on his hands he says matter of fact way he can start to look for

a new life. culture is that so much as i can recall the right kind of example here if you can it's probably a good mitt romney revealed a little major difference between the two and their approaches to security in foreign affairs many point. what will change when america picks its president i made muslim rage walking the iran tightrope pushing china and russia as occupy anger spreads the two parties still dictate will their future through a selection of clothes guys every time the fifth on our team.

hello again bring america's foreign wars to a close withdraw corporate cash from politics and stop and. if in the detention they're all election promises but not ones you'll find in the manifest as a barack obama or mitt romney there are other names on the ballot in the u.s. presidential election of course and are to help them air their views but broadcasting an alternative live debate he's going to shoot you can listen in. the four alternative candidates who were debating this tuesday night in chicago did raise a number of issues that were never even touched upon in the debates between mitt romney and barack obama there was a lot of critique of course they discuss money in politics their claim is that washington was bought and paid for by special interests they discuss the indefinite detention of americans the act of president obama's sign something that the two party candidates never talk about during the major debates and here is joel signs

where marks on the issues she is the nominee from the green party and the trail of our civil liberties that the president has assumed dictatorial rights to put us in prison at his pleasure without charge or without trial among other things sweeping powers of the patriot act also something that you don't hear much about in the mainstream media the crackdown on whistleblowers by the obama administration and of course the military judging by their remarks he could very well understand why they are outsiders in this election all of them were saying the u.s. should stop military intervention and all of them do not see much difference between barack obama and mitt romney especially on foreign policy take a listen we're going to find ourselves with the continued heightened police state in this country we're going to find ourselves continuing to militarily intervene in the world which result has resulted in hundreds of millions of enemies to this country that wouldn't otherwise exist we know the republican democrats some

differences but both of them morphed into a millet true square purchased anti-democratic force that has betrayed basic human and civil rights these candidates are going to be on balance but not in all states they were also talking about how hard it is for an independent candidate to get on those ballots in the u.s. that every state has its own intricate rules lots of signature and that essentially it requires a lot of. money to get on the ballot and all of these candidates know they don't stand a chance to win this election but as larry king the moderator of this debate said i their voices that may not be counted on november the thanks but they deserve to be heard going to count one of those alternative choices just to spite the come that rocky anderson talked to me earlier on he said he would be unable to swing the votes in his favor how he been allowed to challenge obama and romney on national t.v. one thing that's clear to me is if i were included on the stage with barack obama

and mitt romney i think there would be a very different result in this country because the range of debate between them has been so constricted i mean they're basically arguing about who's going to raise military spending the most who's going to drill on public lands or offshore the most whether we're going to send small arms or water jar mst syria and add to what's going to be afraid an absolute bloodbath a civil war in that country and the response to this debate has been just overwhelming i tell you about our third party debate because we're saying things that you never hear from the republican and democrats and what we're saying really reflects what the majority of the american people want. but because of threatening the wall code of the government spending cuts you didn't say that and you're in a two year pay freeze which could be extended as well as being given increased

workloads all of which is ruining medical stuff morale small the national health service is already losing the trust of the people it serves to is probably found for. clearly in agony but in supposedly safe hands in hospital that's what janine harvey says distort when she came down with severe hit pain last december despite over forty visits to doctors in three different hospitals janine cervical cancer went on diagnosed rhyming in city hospital doctors here failed to spot janine harvey's cancer not once but twice all the hospitals missed it too exposing parts of the virus but let's have the death of the thirty three year old mother of four just months later her family now say they want to name story to be hard to say that others can avoid a similar freights at one point doctors even suggested that jeanine's excruciating

pain was all in her mind but her post-mortem examination showed that a cancerous tumor had grown so large inside her that it had shattered her pelvic bone janine's family gets upset when people ask why they didn't pay for costly private care you know. with all the resources that you know what we made it to go private we felt we trusted we trusted it every word jeanine isn't the only patient to be failed by the n.h.s. somewhere around sixty percent of deaths in hospitals. or something else happen but potentially was avoidable and have potentially contributed to that that's one thousand patients a month a recent study by the national institute of health research says that one patient in ten is affected by potentially serious medical errors hauffe of whom die as

a result such as twenty two year old cane gorney she died from dehydration from a combination of misdiagnosis and what the coroner called. the incompetence of n.h.s. staff it's definitely a problem that patients are repeatedly coming to us with. reporting failures a similar in nature to that which happened to janine harvey the n.h.s. trust responsible for janine's care says we are extremely sorry for any distress caused to the family we can understand the need for answers and this is what our internal investigation process is about examining what lessons there are to be learnt and making changes if there's anything that needs to be changed janine's family are now turning their tragedy into forming a charity to give other people with complicated medical conditions a chance to get a second medical opinion privately before it's too late it's impossible for so many

individual consultants to to make so many errors more speed the system it must be some major major or the lack of communication. negligence is leaving someone you know bed all knowing it's all i can think of any other word for. months long term. poly boyko r t london. saddam's accusing israel of a missile attack on its weapons factory near the capital khartoum which killed two people injured another four israeli planes reportedly carried out the strike on a plant which they believe is passing rockets on her mercy depose run by a sudanese state owned company which produces weapons under license from around the autumn of. joins when i was a political analysts a professor at university in gaza dr thank you for being with us israel said it's got no knowledge of this latest incident but it has been blamed before for

a similar kind of thing in two thousand and nine a truck convoy taking arms to gaza was bombed was made kilograms of nineteen then same year a ship was bombed from the do you think israel. could be responsible this time. will let me say that this is not the first attack again a sudanese territory of it has happened before since the war ended on gaza at the beginning of two thousand and nine there have been a number of attacks against sudanese territory and it is logically to say that israel is the country that is responsible for such attacks again is so done my understanding also is that after the war again is gaza at the end of two thousand at the beginning two thousand and nine the previous american administration and the previous israeli government reach an understanding to fight terrorism like on its sources and it is believed also so now that is supplying

hamas the palestinian resistance a group who was the gaza strip with weaponry and therefore that is why widely believed that israel is the government the country that is interested in fighting against out of country who are allegedly supplying hamas with weapons and if you fully if you follow the line of reasoning through are you saying the us essentially gave the green light to israel to do this if they did it. now israel is an alley of the u. us that was stated by president barak obama a couple of days ago when he when he said that israel is our affairs and all first alley in the middle east region i would imagine that there is you us a proven for such as well in the aggression against other countries. i don't think that it would it would go without this way without american approval

or without american to get in line and as i mentioned to that there was an understanding between the two sides between the american and israelis which was reached at the beginning of two thousand and nine. two to five. in the region the sudanese information minister said quote we reserve the right to react at a place in the time that we choose what i was going to have now. now i don't fully know whether sudan has the capability to respond since israel has not taking responsibility for such attack again the sudan it would be impossible to probably to decide who is responsible for such are not. comparing the two countries sudan and israel we all know that the balance of power is in the interest of israelis and it would be. it doesn't make sense that sudan will be able or will

have the capability to strike or retaliate against israel if israel is the country who is responsible for such on a. political analyst to professionalize university in gaza thank you for your time tonight. let's get some business news now with katie it's exactly twenty three which first level that night now the big three rating agencies may finally have some competition on the news but are katie year yeah that's right several weighed in says now kevin from different countries are now joining forces to become the big four now to compete with the u.s. agencies fate and s. and p. who right now monopolized the market rule the roost as it were and the poll has got all the details for us. there are only three credit ratings agencies with global reach moody's standard and poor's and fitch and they are all american and some would say subject to the same kinds of wall street bias all three have had a bad financial crisis failing to predict in two thousand and eight the imminent

downturn at the time they were giving the highest possible credit rating to securities sociate with the u.s. housing market prompted the crisis they also failed to spot what was going on in iceland before it collapsed and as recently as two thousand and nine moody's was saying that invest a consensus about greece but perhaps misplaced but despite this less than stellar track record a new global agency is not going to have it all its own way it will need to establish its own credibility and this can only be done by showing long term accurate and reliable analysis and that is going to take some time now which way richard hangs general about itself one of the firms involved in the project says that well that trying to achieve is another perspective. the american new york centric view of the world does not take into account many of the strengths that exist in different in the countries because they put and asian companies

lower. u.s. companies and you know the asian companies doing better now talking to the u.s. which street because they are losing momentum right now in the us to spying signs of stabilization in china and best of expensive home sales data as well the federal reserve has come out with a statement just recently saying that growth has been moderate while consumer spending have picked up and business spending had slowed we were all the european currency though is continuing down from us on the back of a whole bunch of european manufacturing data that came out today one of the big alarm bells i was germany posting a two month low the russian currency though fairfax's today gives a basket of currencies finished up. want to check out the active markets here most of them because we have lost the stands outgoing us today over the rate and a half percent that's after that multi-billion dollar purchase of t.

in k b k. oh right then signed stay with us here r t because we have the middle east expert professor gunter manner about the conflict in syria and what impact the ousting of assad's regime could have on the reaches the sit with us. the sun rises over what seems like analyst forest but here in new directions cry for hundred kilometers north of life while stopped as in much of the world it's disappearing at a catastrophic rate. mortgages both illegal and those finding ways to outsmart the system for filing down the forests of the more skewed region for them profit goes well beyond the future of our planet and the result could be an ecological crisis the world wildlife fund for

nature makes regular trips to help local rangers do what little they can to stop the logging but it's not easy lager set up trucks making them hard to reach in an already rough terrain and have mastered ways to jump through legal loopholes this is a nature reserve we're only sanitary logging of disease trees is allowed according to law and not a single berry can be picked but loggers like this use their sanitary logging permit to cut down absolutely healthy trees and sell the profitable timber over the border in china we are on the hunt for illegal loggers and it's not going to be easy the forests or nets and our chances are slim now for now we can stay in our dreams but as soon as we find solid tracks we'll have to drop our wheels and get out silently in order not to scare the loggers off alexander some more in ca has been a ranger for over twenty five years he can spend weeks at a time tracking a single group of loggers easier to work when snow falls in autumn it's impossible

to find human tracks and even transport tracks are hard to see after hours of driving we get sent in the right direction by word of mouth you can see that the ground is soft here which means that there is twelve tractor trails are very fresh which in fact means that we need to be quiet. in order to not scare them off as we get closer. this team says they're illegal but have no documents now xander can now call the police to take over his work here is done he is overwhelmingly outnumbered there are too few rangers working in the promote the region and the w w f he says the government isn't doing enough to stop it i guess the government now as i started sit here for more whole forest legislation so assumes the pals and so on ribs and you'll forest court and according to. every for us that's the guys in waltham in the in the forest to the still the forest courts deal doesn't work just do what you do with there's no one tries to stop them

in just five years the force will be gone they'll sell it all to china what will the people who live afterwards do but it's a question more and more people are aware of today climate change in the safety of our environment as a whole are being discussed around the world and perhaps it's those small steps that might be a start to people living in harmony with nature. and if. you can think you can. follow and welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle to debate that well really didn't happen candidates barack obama and mitt romney revealed that little major differ.