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in. ireland. hello i'm tom hartman in washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture republicans want women to make less than men what's about wanting fair and legal elections in america all that and more in tonight's alone liberal rumble and the fracking industry in this country is making millions off a dangerous and destructive practice our communities fighting back against fracking and trying to protect our nation from an environmental disaster.
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you need to know this last week paul ryan attempted to show that he and mitt romney really do care about poor people in america very showed up a soup kitchen only problem was he arrived late he didn't give any notice and figured he'd do a photo of cleaning dishes that were already wearing that stunt which garner a lot of negative political attention has now put the soup kitchen nearly out of business but ryan still wants americans to believe that he had mitt romney care about poverty so today in ohio he gave a speech on that issue but of course it was just rhetoric and maybe ryan could get away with talking a good game on poverty maybe you could vince america that he really does want to do something about the poor in america declining social mobility except he's also the guy who wrote the republican budget the house of representatives they completely decimates the poor in our nation in their budgets sixty two percent of ryan's
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proposed funding cuts target programs that help low income americans and their budget the food stamp program would cap which kept nearly four million americans out of poverty last year is completely gutted meaning no benefits or fewer but it benefits for millions of low income americans in the future and that by. medicaid which provides health care for millions of low income americans is slashed and according to a study by the urban institute will result in medicaid enrollment being cut in half in that budget ryan because tax credits afforded to low income americans like a child tax credit and the earned income tax credit keep millions of americans out of poverty ryan mehta talked a good game in ohio today but we all know it's a charade religious leaders across the nation have repeatedly slammed paul ryan's policies and the largest national coalition of religious congregations fico network said of the ryan budget the mission of the church is to bring good news to the poor and to protect the vulnerable not to justify the impoverishment of the very young
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the very old and the sick in order to enrich the wealthy. the only thing we can expect paul ryan and mitt romney to do is what they've promised to do on paper and that's give massive tax cuts five trillion dollars worth of tax cuts to rich people like themselves and give austerity to the rest of us that will only worsen wealth inequality in the united states and does make it harder and harder for the poor to move up into the middle class and try out for their shot at the american dream and paul ryan doesn't give a damn about the poor he's just a shill for big business who wants to create an iron aranda utopia where the wealthy live like kings and the middle class of the poor live like feudal serves don't buy the snake oil. now let's turn over to tonight's lone liberal rumble. it's wednesday are you ready to rumble join me for going it's
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a long liberal romber are laughlin mark mark a investigative reporter with the heritage action fund action fund their determination yeah but action fund that's like. really moving along there and as he robinson deputy director of the paul revere project got on a horse to and thank you for joining me tonight going on what i just said sixty two percent of ryan's cuts are proposed to be in poverty programs the food stamp program. he wants to gut that. the urban institute says medicaid romans going to crash i want to do away with things like a child tax credit how can we trust these guys to handle poverty because they're taking you seriously and they're looking at the real drivers of our debt which also happen to be these. video games you know the real drivers of our debt which which is what do we. owe it absolutely does it has to do with whether these people can pull themselves up now is that we have one hundred twenty seven percent of g.d.p. as our national debt after world war two and we didn't have
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a problem with massive poverty will go you know world war two the largest were ever seen as a rather exceptional circumstance it was a government program. it was a massive government spending program that got us out of the great depression and it was a war that got us in there i don't crush it so you're comparing the war on poverty to world war two the war on poverty because we've gone over to the united states in twenty two percent down to twelve percent i mean if it works so well why are we still fighting it arguably it's the success actually the expense of war more going to target going to sleep in large part by ronald reagan like well i think you can't measure the effectiveness of a program to combat poverty by the number of dollars that it spends and in fact it seems that the more you're spending on i'm not talking about the number of dollars you spend i'm sorry about the specific program but we are spending more on food stamps in well that's because we're in the middle of the bush great depression but the idea of the idea that you would you would measure the effectiveness of these programs by how much how much you're spending seems to me to be totally backwards
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it's you know the more poverty we have the more we're spending on these programs so the idea needs to be reducing poverty this is about giving people bootstraps so they can pull themselves up no it's absolutely not you got you the left claims they want to create safety nets but they create spiderwebs that keep people travel down to how do you do it again or racial poverty what do you do all of the family what do you do about a family in appalachia that has basically you know no income no job prospects there's no industry there and their kids are trying to go to school and they're hungry i mean me personally i'm not going to do anything for them except fight for policies that will allow them to achieve self to independence yasmine all money from their dad like tagg romney did hey give me ten million bucks i'll start a company i mean you have to talk about food stamp and roman like it's a good thing it's a good sign that there are so many people who need handouts from the government i want to know it's clearly not a good thing that people need them but it is a good thing that we are feeding people out you know the average height of americans you know it absolutely is the average height of americans one hundred years ago was about three inches shorter than it is right now why because we eat
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better nutrition i mean actually there's a generational. difference well i mean you said what are we going to do for them but i think the relevant question needs to be you know who is going to do to do what you know is going to be the federal government is going to be state and local governments is going to be all the bigger and was what is the appropriate doing right well i think i think the you know i think these local organizations and charities church groups community organizations have a much better idea of what poor people in their communities need the research and you know way to job of getting that resource sells and then the federal government can it is absolutely true when you need to take or when when we were in one thousand nine hundred sixty four when we were relying on churches and nonprofit organizations we had a twenty two percent poverty rate ten years later after l.b.j. put into place the war on poverty the poverty or it was twelve years drawing a huge bit of causation there that we absolutely know many factors and you also you know that are at work there that to just point to point that fact out seems to be
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mr gates or so we're going to we're going to we're going to argue about historical data indiana secretary senate candidate richard mourdock said this about rape and abortion in last night's debate. struggled with it myself for a long time but i came to realize life is a gift from god and i think even would life be gives you a should agree that it is something that guided to happen. mitt romney is indoors moredock still endorses him but putting aside these outrageous comments that are becoming commonplace in the in the republican party there are serious issues here come to gender equality well actually i think abortion is a serious issue of birth control is a serious issue mitt romney was was asked if he would sign of personhood amendment was to make you know the pill illegal he said yes that would make any abortion for rape or incest or the life of the mother illegal he said yes paul ryan has signed on to these kind of things in the past i mean and here we are three men talking
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about women which is one of the things that makes me crazy the so much of this discussion is being driven by men in the political arena sixteen percent of our legislators are women it's you know compared to forty percent in norway fifty percent in iceland but what are we going to do she is is it not an appropriate role for government to to work toward gender equality and to protect the rights of women to make their own decisions about their own bodies well i think you know in keeping with the name of the program the big picture we need to stay focused on you know the things that you know i've seen a lot of people try to you know make this senate race in indiana about this one comment when i think you know they're only seventeen percent of voters according to a recent gallup survey that say abortion is a make or break issue for them so you know i think it's not about its origin what it's about a worldview basically what he's saying you know i guarantee you if men could get pregnant abortion would be a sacrament yeah well i mean it is about a world view and he just so happened to be expressing a world view that hey a lot of people agree with and i personally don't find anything particularly
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offensive about what he said i don't think that you know so you think you are going to get as many one of us as an age double down on it with another car so so you think that if a woman gets raped and impregnated that the state should come to her house with guns and say you will carry this but this. is a right now what he was saying all turned out as it is absolutely what he was produced through through rape is still a life and deserves the same protection. that you would get up and get a life contra contraception that will merge at all my conception you agree yes i would not even implantation so you know it's up in the flowbee in tubes it hasn't even implanted in the uterus that's going to happen two or three days later you can stop that process with a heart simply with with a large dose of birth control pills you're opposed to that you want the government to say that we're going to put those in your mind although you know i am going to put you in prison you put words in my mouth well that's right they're not going to say no what i'm saying about what murdoch said is that a life that is produced through rape has just the same dignity and he launched the
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federal government to protect it which means guys with guns making sure that mean that every government protect life for my wrong i thought life i mean we need we need we need to have a conversation this nation about when life begins so that that's the key question is is when life begins and i mean it really all comes down to that so you know that was not what these guys are saying is that life begins at the moment of conception if you agree with that then you mean that's a perfectly rational comment well let's let's take it to the next step you know if life begins at the moment of conception and and about one out of every three conceptions of the floppy in tubes never implants in the uterus should we start doing funerals for every month period. i'll leave should we do a funerals for every miscarriage one of four pregnancies that ends in miscarriage and that's an absolute tragedy and we recognize that all that i already she is normal biology is no body's way of saying you know this one wasn't perfect i think that is it mean that the family that that happens to is not incredibly distraught
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that that happened and why you know i know rick santorum took a miscarriage home and ordered a bottle on his dismissal. just so offensive that you want to left would mock santorum for that because the facts are the fact that people are saddened by a miscarriage or stillbirth it only testified it was decided by as he put it into a char on his mantel in his living room are you trying to say that he was celebrating a stillbirth i did something that causes are disgusting i'm saying it's just plain . those are but. also tell i go through what he went through i won't pretend i'm not you know is that yeah and i think that i think that men discussing abortion is something that should be a lot of for. everybody but if there are other but well you're right and good where i want to take this was was gender equality in general you know should mitt romney still has not said that he would have signed the lilly ledbetter fair pay for equal pay for equal so work law i'm assuming he won't say it because he would have signed
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it should women have equal rights in the workplace i mean as soon as they can get the full equal work as soon as this is like when mitt romney said if we're going to have women in the workplace then we have to deal with the fact is that the vast majority of the wage gap in the united states is not attributable to workplace discrimination it's attributable to the differences in the types of jobs that men and women decide to persuade which is the consequence of in large non muslims at least on the she certainly will be about the physical differences between men and women many people are more dangerous more rubble after the break.
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back in the lone liberal rumble joining me are laughlin mark a investigative reporter with the heritage foundation and s.e. robinson deputy director of the paul revere project let's get back to it earlier this week we brought you a story on how the u.n. will be sending international lection observers to the united states to moderate of the november elections for any violations while that's good news for the millions of voters republicans are trying to suppress republicans themselves are not too
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happy about republican bloggers and pundits and break it out as the republican lawmakers today texas lawmakers warned to the u.n. observers not to interfere with the state elections in alabama the speaker that was trying to pass a bill to block the u.n. observers from monitoring the voting in that state and here was catherine catherine engelbrecht of the tea party group true the boat boxer called news on monday. they say we need review when observers in order to protect in particular minority voters in this country your reaction. well i think it's just it's really breathtaking in the ophrah kristie that we're seeing they have they have gone to an international body to try and prevent or discourage american citizens from participating in a completely legitimate manner and spoke of legitimate election should we as americans want a legitimate elections where everyone who has the right to vote can do so
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republicans afraid that the u.n. observers are going to catch them in the act of blocking millions of americans from voting and and heard if you can if paul weyrich saad reading that would be fun. this is this is there's a long history in the republican party of trying to actually the long history in america because he used to be the democratic party before before the sixty's that was trying to suppress the black vote jim crow laws and things of the republican party. here this is paul weyrich he is the guy who founded the american legislative exchange council was one of the co-founders the heritage foundation and in one thousand nine hundred at a ronald reagan event in a church in texas actually speaking to a group of republican activists areas. how many of our christian have what i call them grown good government they want everybody to vote. i don't want everybody to vote elections are not won by a majority of people they never have been from the beginning of our country and
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they are not now as a matter of fact go look for it in the elections quite candidly go stop voting populace go down. so this is been the official policy the republican party for a long time i mean you know the former supreme court justice chief justice rehnquist made his jobs down in arizona frightening literally i mean he was a big tall guy back in the sixty's. americans at the polling at the polling places challenging. i mean look if the more people who are watching american polling places on election day as long as they're not interfering with americans right to vote you know what a lot of these red states have actually passed laws saying you can't observe inside the polling place well look if it's a matter of if it's a matter of yeah. then actual i mean you know they're trying to prevent these international bodies from coming in but i think this was a problem even republicans are encouraging people to be allowed into the polling stations even people on the left everybody is ready for it they're going to i phones are going to be ready for there's not going to be any suppression there's
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going to be yeah you know it's not it's going to intimidate the people who would commit voter fraud like a. lot of them knows you know jim moran jim rand son today project veritas exposed him his son was helping a guy commit voter fraud saying oh yeah you need to make some fraudulent utility utilities bills and that will help you and they have to look good and if they look good enough organizing for obama i mean there are no it was so he was doing it but he was doing like mitt romney did when he said that he was living in his son's unfinished basement messed you know he was drawing that he was trying to commit systemic voter fraud there's a pretty big difference and that's the son of a sitting congressional right behind a part i can't speak to that i was upset about and i don't doubt that about the most recent right wing conspiracy theories i'm sorry it's only just an exam i have don't have any i don't read is a right wing web site isolated or there is the easy issue with the u.n. though that i you know and i think this might have been was getting at with the hypocrisy angle was that you have an organization that has
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a lot of member states that don't have free and fair elections and we're going to give them runs you know we're the example i might be one of the same the same state department employee who sent a letter to russia who sent a letter to this organization asking that they come monitor our elections on march eighth of this year he sent a letter to russia congratulating them on the success of their presidential elections i'm sorry but you're just like all credible. when you're trying to bring in someone who looks that you know putin's waltz into power and then says oh no we're going to come to united states the people who are very large public in a democracy i mean come on you're good have you had this and not to acknowledge the systemic fraud going on in russia the and then to think that this independent election advisor is going to come up and say oh congratulations i was surprised putin won you don't want anybody observing the elections now hopeless oh come on in your fifty percent or can't do it or a country that martyr center can't do it the carter center says i'm sorry the standards in the united states are so low that we can't do it we can we can observe
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in iraq we can observe afghanistan we can't do it here in the u.s. i mean that's hogwash that's hogwash at the end of the day i don't understand i can agree with you that the republicans and the bloggers are overreacting about this because at the end of the day it's a u.n. organization which i don't think if you had ever done well and you and i will i don't have any you and i was because i don't have any research this tell us i swear to you that we're going to wrong and that's my concern is that you know the u.n. has as as a general rule has a lot of philosophical disagreements with the united states and you know my concern is that they may disagree with the laws that we have in place in the united states but those laws need to be enforced and if they're going to be there to she would some way discourage people from you know if they feel that voter id laws are unfair for instance you know those laws need to be followed because that is the law of the land and so if they're if they're so pretty in principle opposed to those laws i think that they would soon as they would like people to letters that are showing up in florida right now saying you must fill out this form and if you don't return it
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within fifteen days and you show up to vote you will be arrested have i got that whatever democrats are doing it to the democrats are going to realize there are republicans receiving letters saying they're not eligible to vote that they're not either not registered or they're not actually citizens you know the large cuban population in southern florida that has a very strong public and base in it so yeah you know this is not a lot of latino names are being filtered out by rick scott so you say but he's got their public and governor florida's going after. i'm saying that this is not a partisan issue but that's one of the lectern integrity and it needs to be for the first for the first time since one thousand nine hundred quiet change was not mentioned in a single presidential debate that six especially alarming considering the flood of information on climate change that has come out recently including the fact that september was the hottest september globally in history doesn't concern you that there was no mention of one of the you know the fate and future of the planet as you. so concerned with the lack of discussion about climate change because frankly it's one of the biggest hoaxes that's been executed on the american republican majority of regulatory regulatory policy changes that are undermining our economy
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that we're going to see in the wrong direction you are you are actually you're going to sit here and say that the best scientists on earth who are looking at those interests yes absolutely the university there was so much corruption the best there was absolutely no sure the best scientists wouldn't collude to exclude dissenting i.q.'s there's reason to be i don't i thought you were a spark and i can't believe you would find those videos to see homeowners by the by the by the fossil fuel industry in the us billionaires you know i'm skeptical of this hockey stick propaganda that's coming from scientists who have been just you know what in the world is six thousand years old right s.e. i mean i mean it's debatable at all because i know what i mean we should years old and and because when you look at the horizon looks flat the world is flat right now and because it was hotter today that means global warming is happening so why don't we put a filter on all cows but you know what methane in the atmosphere so you're going with the right guys not. even are you putting aside the scientific issues i think
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you can look inside the scientific ok so that let's not put that aside let's let's talk about the two thousand my cap and trade bill that never ended up happening which would have had a devastating impact on the economy and would have you don't know that it's actually working on europe right now and it would have had effect on global temperatures of next point to degree you know that is not as you know the last time we had a credit cap and trade bill in the united states it was put into play. by george herbert walker bush it was for sulfur dioxide and if we don't do what i did it was really a bad idea if you cut emissions it may be industry more profitable it worked everybody got more efficient it cut emissions it worked cap and now usually president himself has said that you know under my plan electricity rates will necessarily skyrocket you have been married in iraq and you said skyrocket you have an american thought they were voting on economic issues right now and it's just a fact that these solutions are quote unquote solutions that as opposed to my question are you guys going to try to turn everything into something about economics when the planet is in danger i mean that we are looking at our credit
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let's look at our power grid let's look at what for example the wind energy tax credits have done to our power grid you've got the liberals on the left are saying hey who we could wind power wind power it's it's the you know the salvation for our energy whoa but when you look at what the. effect of these tax credits they are damaging our power grids because if we have to go through hell and high water just to integrate wind power into our system that we need that we need is opening its modern records like europe doesn't really like i mean our i mean we think it is a smart grid with ours not available during the peak demand moment so it's to get incredibly perverse and if so why don't we want to we don't want is doing you know they're generating a little less than twenty percent of their electricity with an hour in the opening within the united states arbor last time i am and they are building out of fleet of five million electric vehicles where you charge your car at night and you buy the lectures this is a very yeah those are all free market also works well for us when you are a guard and i were doing both need to charge your car at night and you buy the
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electricity cheap and then you drive to work and then you sell that electricity back into the grid for more money this is not a free market this is not a free market this is you know what the it's called managed competition which ends up being there is no such thing as a hey my friend in the industry i'm in government lots of range this will both get rich and we'll call it a green scheme so it was so so he said you just want to continue going to billions of dollars every year to the fossil fuel industry we'll do it over a little bit look at. if you want to compare subsidies look at what the oil industry gets compared to what barack obama has given away to green companies like someone's of oil industries a sixty billion dollars the auto industry is getting hundreds of billions of dollars look at what look at what we are spending to protect their shipping lines yes about how you are military eligibles protecting the islanders because if obama wasn't also slashing are they going to do without it is a hundred years of american policy laughlin mark a.s.e. robinson thanks for joining.
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us. praise the alert grannies god god it's just your grandma do with all are free to the she'd knit maybe play bingo with her friends about a nice game of bridge but what every ramma does it's probably safe to say she has absolutely no desire to enter the world of mixed martial arts and cage fighting well that's not the case for a fifty six year old five foot six grandmother candace cost of virginia says she's always had the urge to fight with people and it's beat up a few guys many years if she wants to take her fight an experience to the next level. she's helped troubled teens and she's just lost one hundred twenty pounds but those aren't the most impressive things about a richmond grandmother now she wants to become a cage fire now that she's leaned down and toughened up she wants to put her natural man dicking skills to work this biting gritty has contacted cage match mixed martial arts promoters demanding an equal shot in a cage and stop me from getting the general public god bless them but come on can't
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just those cage match guys could be monsters you know what i'm sorry i have heard they're younger they're faster older better insured and i've done a lot longer so far she had the look but she's pushing your mind and surely there is somebody here who will fire you no woman. so someone go. i can't us is there a challenger to a cage fight. well
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