bringing in taxes and that's austerity i wouldn't like to see large yes and we can see by looking around the world will the really talks about the global economic crisis actually this is in very large part by western economic crisis caused by debt and i think that one of the lessons that we can draw from it is that spending money don't have is not a route to economics ovation we have to begin to try and balance the books that doesn't solve everything but it is a prerequisite so what you're saying is the government's trying to enter mental stary say but failing what's unbelievably curious about the government's rhetoric is talking as if they're taking a chainsaw to public spending that this is going to be the biggest package of austerity this is really going to hurt it's a bit like going to a dentist and the dentist saying to you this is going to be very very painful surgery on really really sorry but you're going to have to suffer it and then deliver in a pinprick it's as if they're sending out mood music to the money markets as if

they're trying to pretend they're being tough but the actual figures suggest nothing of the sort so the kind of austerity that you're talking about what would that look like to the ordinary man on the street. well i resent the term austerity there's a danger that the political debate is now configured in do you want austerity or do you want growth i want growth but i think that living within your means at government level is necessary to achieve that but i don't buy this austerity versus growth i don't buy the idea that we should only make cuts when the economy starts growing i think we need to actually get the government out of the way to allow the economy to grow it would be as if you were in a hot air balloon and so you were only going to throw the whites out when the balloon takes off no you actually need to throw the white sand in order to let the balloon take off put that into perspective for me what does it mean in terms of schools and hospitals which is what we think about when we talk about government

spending yet the national health service which the government in my view when it's in its total economic unwisdom for political reasons has really focused the national health service so we have probably the most socialist health care system in the entirety of europe are not suddenly privatized all of that overnight and there's a debate in britain as if there's only upon your retreat you want to have the national health service all the american system i don't much like the american system but i think that we have to be aware that cradle to grave health care for virtually any illness or plight that you any individual suffers from is simply not affordable or if we want to afford it then we're going to have to see enormous rises in tax chancellor george osborne talking about cutting ten billion pounds from the welfare state all those kinds of measures hitting the poorest and media in our society. i'm not persuaded by that argument toll really what we're saying with

regard to the british welfare state since it was set up now looking back now best part of sixty years nearly since the beverage report which was established the founding principles is that we need a welfare safety net that is provides what beverage himself described as subsistence levels of support and only ideally for a temporary period of time what we've actually seen the quote for the welfare state is it's nearly impossible to imagine a person in british society who doesn't qualify for some sort of welfare support you might have housing benefit even if you're in work if you've got any kates you qualify for child benefit you may qualify for tax credits if you are a low earner it goes on and on and on we have universal benefits for the elderly if you are a multi-millionaire in your seventy's you get a free bus pass you get a winter fuel allowance one athlon individual said to me he liked his winter fuel allowance it helped him to heat is indoor swimming pool this is not

a welfare state it was a neutral it originally imagine this is a welfare state that has got totally out of control but covers nearly all human activity so i think you could slice it back and focus it on those who really need it let's say for the sake of argument the bottom ten percent of the population they're all there are parents rather than spreading these huge people over virtually every part. you recently led a panel discussion titled fifteen ideas to transform britain about encouraging enterprise in this country the ideas put forward by a number of m.p.'s and three of them were performed by you i'm just going to go through them with you and if you could tell me what you mean by each of them the first is super charging startups. what what we mean by super charging startups is to make it easy for somebody who's got a business idea to begin to get off the grant in the land of building a business before a few rungs of the harvest the biggest decision is how do i take on my first

employee for example what sort of barriers to i face you're immediately sort of complex tax rules i want to make it easy for somebody who has a great idea almost you know at three o'clock in the morning to begin to get their business off the ground your second idea is rewarding our educators and it's agreed really almost universally that our teachers aren't paid enough is that what you mean. i'm not sure that it's true that teachers are paid enough by the way but i don't really know what teachers should be paid so that there are two changes that i'd like to make the first is to allow profit into the system if you can run a fantastic school which you know teaches kids you know mathematics english and the rest i have no problem with you making a profit for what is a fantastically useful exercise for the next generation but i'd also like to make sure that teachers are employed and remunerated in the way people are in the private sector so rather than teachers being on the back which are set in some sort

of smoke filled room in watchful between politicians bureaucrats and trade union like individual schools to sign mr blogs is a great history teacher we can't afford to lose him we've got to give him a playwright's and schools will have to make decisions of course you know are you going to spend the money on perhaps building a better chemistry lab and better sports facilities or are you going to spend the money on trying to bring in better quality teachers those sort of decisions which every day you're faced in private sector companies should be faced by those one in all schools as well we've talked a bit about the welfare state but your third eye dare is winding down out of work benefits seemingly just when people need them the mideast. i don't think that it's true that people need them the most at the moment i'm not advocating anything here which is even as extreme as what bill clinton brought in in the united states of america and it's two things firstly i'd like to see benefits begin to be time limited the assumption the assumption this is going to apply in all cases but the

assumption is you need a short amount of help you've suddenly lost your job you need a little bit of help to talk through perhaps for six months or so maybe for a year before you find another job that's the concept behind and you need to work hard in those few months to find another job but i'd also like to like to bring into the fact that you would be eligible for community work because what's happening at the moment with the government is that they all royally addressing a ludicrous problem in our welfare system which is that some people are actually better off claiming welfare benefits than they are taking on a job by taking a job that's not particularly well paid suddenly all these benefits get guillotines and before you know it you're working forty hours a week and you actually have less money in your pocket than you would do if you filled in some government forms that's not it but i think there needs to be another problem that needs to be tackled and that's if you like the leisure if your choice is to work for forty hours a week for let's say twelve thousand pounds a year or to stay on welfare doing no work for eleven thousand pounds

a year although it would be true in that circumstance that you would be better off in work you might not want to do forty hours a week work so it's in my view that if the community tax payers are coming to you all right and providing you with the money that you need two three square meals a day i pay your heating bills have a roof over your head then it's reasonable to expect you to put in some work to the community clearing up litter in the park scraping graffiti off walls and the like and where this is being trialled in wisconsin in the united states of america it had a fantastic dynamic effect what happened was we didn't suddenly have huge squadrons of unemployed people scraping away what actually happened was these unemployed people suddenly inspired to. i don't find real jobs in the private sector and low and behold those vacancies usually at the lower end of the incomes scuttled looking for people to work in fish and chip shops or balls or or restaurants those suddenly got filled so i think it's a win win over actually encourage a work ethic and encourage a mentality that would get people who have been out of work into the labor market

what about the effect of the economic situation in the european union on the u.k. where herring that is there a great is forecast this year in the e.u. what impact will that have on u.k. has holds who has no doubt at all you know however one wants to play more praise the united kingdom government they're not masters of our interest only in target and i fear actually for the next as a radical change of course in the european union countries and the western economy as a whole then not percent growth is going to have to be something that we get used to so let's hope that that's the worst of it and we don't actually say a full scale eurozone crisis because when william hague said that joining the euro might be a bit like entering the burning building with no exits well perhaps he was right but nevertheless the united kingdom is sitting in the porch and if that voting building goes up we will definitely feel a substantial and highly negative side effect of that little bit thank you very

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hello welcome to the latest on this busy sunday and these are the top stories. on a day of matches at the top of the russian premier. turkish delight over the past base serena williams in the olympic final at the end of season finale. getting closer to. full straight win at the india. along with the racist. but first to scholar at in-form a ring for a victory that would take them to. least temporarily top of the russian premier league the only men have won the last two three games but so have their chechen opponents who couldn't use before the second if they take the trip in grozny where it's currently one won almost at half time i also was on target for terror act and

then keisuke honda levels when we were all a john g. who started the day two points clear to skeletons you twice former champions ravines while only added on at least from the pony it's pretty it sets off into eleven's after a one zero win in the moscow region thanks on the koreans that is the winner of just thirteen minutes for me while some of the champions league came from behind to win three two. alex on the persian gulf so his only penalty saved by people who tell you can do it but be self made amends only follow up is the charm especially sides took the lead thirteen minutes in boss to strive for the ten minutes lucky me a husband that is for free kicks meant it was the home side who led the interval. but the meets the one that lost three games overall levelled with twenty minutes to go because you called. them to do it full time approaching the russian stop made the most defensive mix up to clinch his second and wrap up victory three two to see the champions go but in just two points off the top spot milan yet remain two

points off his medication as i. follow the old only the bottom of the table but remain in the drop zone off the beaten house to a one one draw with close of the substitute i thought may be lost but the home side head off to sixty four minutes as both a look for that second straight victory but fifteen minutes later i'm not a subplot he may have gone when leveled with a heavy loss sure point swish a. lot more to be a slave to the force of the save often these internal at spots like moved on to strike just before the interval gave the moscow side the lead. and really didn't off second after sixty four minutes for the goalkeeper unaware as wrapping up a comfortable two no victory i'm not a good weight as we should jump or three. things are suddenly looking much brighter for sponsors at moscow after suffering free straight defeats the written whites have now won their last two games against benfica which is rejuvenating better champions league hopes and against modern. yeah of course you know they're there to

give give a good morale is. going to have a good team and i reverted to working very hard but if you don't win the games in other morocco's downside. we're all here for winning song obviously that makes us money i live with and that's good i want to sponsor main problems have been maybe keep the fans they conceded twenty goals domestically and six in the champions league going into this week when i am resigned look to tighten things up at the bank train sheet against mongolia was incredibly their first since early august. working on this in training but i think there is still plenty to. tackle defense we need to keep on working hard but i've long been there yeah i was thinking about doing again i said. it's very difficult to win four games. when you take a lot for us that was a very good they didn't create many chances they were strong in the set pieces but

. it was a good game for us and she pointed to extremely important spartak have been suffering from a number of injuries but the crisis seems to be easing the minds of on baby come and emmanuel in ek set to play first team football soon been wanting r.b.i. deneuve is finding his shooting boots again from everton mick fielder hasn't been in the greatest of form since returning to russia but he's out of school two goals in as many games. working hard in training as when i try to shoot when playing and i think i'll play is becoming better as a teammate but you're working better together as a unit we're creating more chances which gives ever. player on the page who will offer to teach to school today was a great psychological boost and where he also kept a clean sheet because the games will continue to come in france response frank however the muscovites finally have a platform to build on after so much inconsistency fram

a season and bell be looking to increase their winning run domestically and in europe richard johnson in moscow. meanwhile over in england the sunday latest chelsea host manchester united in the last of four key battles at the top and bottom of the table they lose a game to bounce back following tuesday to one champions league defeat the chatter of the nets that injured midfielder frank lampard and suspended center half john terry chelsea have a one hundred percent legal record so far at stamford bridge and the win would put them four points clear at the top well the fallouts there's a controversy sidearm it is symbolic as fifth place everton host liverpool newcastle then welcomed in form west brom on top of go to a second bottom stance and while as other they also went forth after beating ten monkey p.r. one millwall ten million aston villa drew one one with knowledge reading finished a thrilling three three draw with bull and started against sunderland his goal this while going to the west ham to one and old as manchester city went second with an

unconvincing one zero win over swanzy as the burton mancini side to recover from wednesday's damaging three one champions league defeat at iraq's. performance first are for sure. because you're a team that. and so wonderful. getting better. chance to score. in this moment when your idea for your moment where you come from really after defeat is important restart when quickly and today was important to get to a point. and it's now russia's maria sharapova or is aiming to aventura lympics final defeat as she prepares to take on serena williams in the final of the season ending championships in istanbul sure of it was full of confidence after meeting while the morning for you as our impact six six two in the semifinals. and informed williams who thrashed. last night on competing

a golden standard paralympic defeat to the american in london this summer just delighted to have got this spot to tell. her it's been a few years since i've been in the final of this of and you know to come to this event with the topic girls and and to be one of the last two in the draws is a great failing and there's always one more match to go but it's certainly a great accomplishment to get there. now it's a major sport and double defending formula one champion sebastian vettel has won his full straight grand prix in india to increase his lead at the top of the driver's standings with just three races left the german took the checkered flag almost ten seconds ahead of former leader fernando along with his medical team mate mark webber completed the podium which are enjoyed lewis hamilton and jenson button fourth and fifth respectively that all is now thirteen points clear of along with a total of seventy five available in the last three outings can be right in and he's a distant. now and on the bikes there is zero has

reclaimed his motor g.p. crown and the young woman finished second at the australian grand prix behind retiring casey stoner the outgoing champion started from pole to win his home race for the sixth consecutive year second place was enough for the renzo to see. the second title in three years are fellows funny dani pedrosa crashed on the second lap britain's cal crutchlow came in third on the day of the second podium finish the season but there enzo is unassailable at the top of the standings with just one race left the ensuing next month so the twenty five year old placed his rival. well you know how difficult it is to five with a base like danny and to fight with fight but he's like. he's very hard no you must be very consistent. and then make a mistake always going to finish the races. and finally the goals and sweden's better hansen has held off while number one rule remark a road to clinch the b.m.w.

championship by a single stroke in shanghai hansen led by one strike going into the final round but a poor start so we're not going to trial by fire after thirteen holes however the northern irishman eagled the fifteenth and birdied the next to stay in the fight. one hundred seven just about part of the seventeenth and on the final hole has been plugged into the rough around the edge of a bunker that thirty five chips to within ten feet. or returns only bogey of the day and that was felled on a birdie attempt to save hands and keep his cool and play the second title of the season and a million dollar willis check. things all over while in malaysia nick watney topped a crowded leaderboard to claim the c i am big classic in kuala lumpur the american stars of the day still shots off the lead with an immense in with five birdies on the front nine before hitting a hat trick birdies to finish with a course record of sixty one not defending champion bovine pelton needed to sink

this efforts to tie up with the. light and missed another tournament or become an official p.g.a. tour events critics. and that's all the sports news bison. nuclear file pulls side. to fall out of

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