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i can tell you and i've known eight presidents three of the minimum because of congress they say the military options on the table vice president biden have a credible. look i'm chasing walter. they're going to put you all back in chains my mother believed that my father believed that if i want to press the united states i could be i could be vice pres his mama lived in in long island for ten years or so god rest her soul and. although she's wait your mom still your mom still alive is your dad pat i promise you the president has a big stick. yes that's right this man is the first in line to feel better of the free world so let's break that. was applied. to do it if you've ever seen anything like this type.
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of. and israel every citizen of military age is forced to serve time in the i.d.f. yesterday we highlighted i.d.f. soldier tom block a conscientious objector of the israeli military but there are many more just like him when does a young israeli who grew up in jerusalem during the second intifada in two thousand and eight she refused to serve in the army and spent weeks in detention and forty days in prison for her resistance and a statement she said quote we can no longer term our military a defense force a defense force does not conquer lands of another people the defense force does not assist in the building of settlements pointless occupation of millions of people only leads to radicalization of opinions hatred and the escalation of violence violence is a cycle that feeds into itself the cycle will not stop until someone stands up and refuses uncompromisingly to take part in it. earlier i had the chance to talk to my
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ear when about why she resisted i first asked her what the turning point was for her. so i actually went into the west bank which is something that most israelis don't do and if they do do they go into settlements but i actually went to palestinian territories both in villages and cities and i actually met palestinians there and actually saw what it was that we were doing and it dawned on me that we were actually occupying palestine that we were actually in fact in control of them and that they were merely resisting what our. regime that we had there so i went to that was the first village that i went to which is a village that israel has built a separation barrier on its land separating the people of the village from their olive groves and when they nonviolently resisted they were tear gassed and they were shot both with live ammunition ripper bullets and this really shocked me to see that this is what these are the kind of things that we were doing and then
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calling it defense what other kind of things that you. experience their. territories. well i think it's very clear we have a doctor patient sort of. multi-pronged effort and it has a lot of it has many elements there is an element of mass incarceration and which there's a systematic arrest of any palestinian especially men young men who in any way organize or resist the occupation so any any political activity is a terror activity. and there is a sort of systematic arrest and torture and imprisonment of young people who resist this occupation for one for one thing. and i saw the. abuse of palestinian labor. the israelis have it kept sort of have a kind of create a captive market in the west bank we control the borders we control the economy.
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and these are sort of things that we still term defense and of course i understand this is nothing to do with defense. we know that you spent days in prison for your refusal what was that experience like. well i went to i went to a military prison i have to. say that the imprisonment of palestinians many of which is without trial is through administrative action for months and often years with no trial is really that is really the real violation of activists rights and political rights of palestinians we have thousands of palestinian prisoners political prisoners in our jails right now so i think anything that i have been through in prison is really easy compared to the experiences and repression that palestinian activists like me. my counter my counterpart palestinian activists have faced and for me the really the big the real punishment was the social pushback
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that i received from my decision and what was that social pushback. well it's not a very popular move and it's really very state of soldiers and militarism has really permeated all aspects of our civil life and we don't really have i think a civilian society as such because we are all soldiers and so it is very difficult people take it very personally when you refuse when you speak out against military it's very unpopular especially in this political climate specially in times like these i refused to myself during operation cast lead that was when my draft day was and i went to prison during cast and it was it was a very controversial time to be making the statement that i did my you mention that barely any israelis actually go into these occupied territories see what's going on firsthand like you did how many people feel the same way you did i know that you said that there's a lot of social pushback a lot of people don't agree but i mean people that you come in contact with does anyone tell you you know we feel this way but perhaps we don't want to be. vocals
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you are i mean what do you think about just the country as a whole i know it's kind of hard to make a generalization on the tire country but you know like in america half the people i talk to do not agree with the aggressive imperialism that our country is doing across the middle east i mean how do you gauge that all those people that you encounter and israel i think the main difference between the colonial and imperialist projects of the united states and israel is that while here you have a poverty draft a lot of poor people of color are the ones who are sent to fight the wars since the draft was eliminated. in israel we really are a sort of a society of soldiers and so everyone is very proactively. engaged in the in our occupation and so justify to ourselves psychically i think it's a lot of psychic investment in among the average israeli society jewish israeli society
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that we don't have as much maybe in the united states. i didn't i there is some support i think if you can if you judge if elections are any indication of where the political opinions of israeli of jewish israelis lie i have to say that no the idea of. critiquing the occupation anyway is very very unpopular even the labor which was traditionally i would a sort of more left leaning although zionist party is today calling itself the center and totally supporting the war so we're having i think everyone in israel is now very clear on being zionist and being and supporting the government line and there is very little i would say deeper critique of the zionism i think that's really the core of the problem is do we believe that we have exclusive rights to lead to do we want to live with other people who are also from there or do we want to live exclusively as jews in our own state and i think that only once we really kind of just mantle that idea and and critique it and. a state for all for this is
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where everyone lives in equality and when there is a separation of religion of church and state then. then the situation will be able to change. in america we we are from a very young age about the propaganda you know american imperialism across the world of course it is definitely different there you guys are all forced to join the military i'm sure there's a lot of militaristic. ideology that comes in line with we see a lot of aggressive rhetoric you just mentioned the elections you just mentioned some of what some of the leaders of insane zionist movement there there are a lot of aggressive rhetoric especially coming from people who conduct your prime minister i mean netanyahu himself is this getting more aggressive as time goes on do you think that what do you think the outcome of the election will be now that the elections are coming up do you think that they'll kind of scale back i know that he's a little bit more aggressive than the predecessor. to be honest i don't think that
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israel has radically changed everyone's talking about how israel is the more right leaning i think that israel has always been by definition a colonialist project. and demanding like i said jewish exclusivity and i think that has always framed israeli politics what we're seeing now more recently i think is just. an unmasking of that unveiling of sorts and so people are just being more honest about about the project that israel is so i don't think that it's radically different i see this current operation in gaza right now as clearly a one that is geared towards the elections and then you know has received a lot of pushback in the last two over the last two years i'm for his new liberal policies that are unpopular in a country where overwhelming there is a very strong support for the welfare state and he has really privatized a lot and he's very big new liberal and so he received
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a lot of pushback for that and what better way to. the public's attention from his new book policies then by uniting against a common enemy in gaza and. at another time of elections really interesting point there i mean it just seems like the aggressor if they want to flatten gaza i mean we have. son saying that. they want to bomb them back to the middle ages that they want to just pretty much exterminate you i mean it's just it's a really insane to hear this coming from actual government leaders but let's talk about the military let's talk about the fact that everyone has to serve in the i.d.f. i mean are there any kind of grassroots initiatives happening in israel that are trying to end this mandate that says that every israeli must serve. unfortunately the resistance movement in israel right now against the military is very very small . to call it a movement in fact would be an exaggeration there is an overwhelming support for
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the military as an institution in the country and what are you doing i know that you've been working tirelessly for years i mean ever since you refuse to serve about this issue reaching our awareness what organizations are you involved in who are you working with and how can people get involved and feel like as americans we're really helpless looking at our government sponsor this occupation with our tax dollars and we pay over three billion dollars in military aid for israel what can we do and how can people get involved. but i sense a really great question and i think part of the initiative i'm currently living in new york and part of the initiatives i'm involved in is really reaching out to the american public educating the american public about their complicit role and often direct role and as he said not only does the united states sponsor israel militarily every three billion dollars a year it also feels every u.n. resolution that challenges the exclusive jewish israeli law over israel and
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palestine. and it really is the last sort of stronghold that israel has i think europe has become much more critical and i think it's really important to educate the american public about where their tax dollars are coming from and what there are many companies in fact multinational corporations american corporations that are invested in the occupation itself and that actually profit from the continuation of this regime and i think it's very important to join campaigns that are going on so i can just mention several campaigns that are going on in the united states right now there's a u.s. campaign to end the occupation there's peace that have a many divestment campaign finishes going on there's really many different organizations working to educate the american public and if people want to check them out and join them that would be very very important in that in mobilizing because the israeli public right now cannot be counted on to end the occupation on their own they need pressure from from the united states. that was activist when i
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you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realized everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. wealthy british style. that's not on the title of. the. markets why not come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy with mike's cars or for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to kaiser report
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on our. russia would be soon which brightened if you knew about song from funniest impressions. moves from stunts on t.v. don't come. cheap. just recently presidents adare of pakistan spoke about acts escalating violence in the country and stated that these acts of violence are manifesting from a mindset one so pervasive that peace would never be an option if left unchallenged many attribute this militant ideology to impoverishment and say that stems out of utter hopelessness and that's where our next guest comes in he's worked for fifty
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nine years in various developmental organizations and his latest endeavor is the rule support program network or the r.s. pm and innovative grassroots effort that has so far empowered over eighty million pakistanis living in rural communities earlier i talked to dr show i have sultan khan in two thousand and nine nobel peace prize nominee and one of the pioneers of this groundbreaking initiative take a look. you know a lot of similar initiatives fail around the world because i'm pretty much part of the fundamental building blocks are not to sustain these efforts as kind of a top down structure how important is it that sustainability programs are really managed by the people themselves and not overseen from a sort of hierarchical structure from the top down. but it has been a good couple of weeks ago with my friends to meet with the executive director of the daily telegraph a little black and you know there really seems that you succeeded because you could
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not. taste it. but yes i did go bad but i. lived there and that is. the first this is. five years of. a support group going to joseph goodman. and he said just the process approach. is to be called the sexes because the guys took the. well let's. let's talk about. another aspect of pakistan. shaad schreiber the foreign minister of pakistan or. car recently came out and said that the leading cause of anti-american sentiment in the region is drones do you think of the ongoing drone war as affected pakistan and the efforts of these organizations.
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it is the people that i would say who get but they stop it. and because ninety two percent of the households cork. and surrounded by. religion. i mean. the border. the border. i would say it is but it is not but you see the united nations so it is really. basically. bring peace and harmony and obviously. if you invested there only you could win the hearts and minds of the. people they should the people should agree to get organize into really their development
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in their will in their lives to see that what they want do. not want to. sure but i mean one of the biggest thing to invest in people obviously is not killing and i mean and this drone warfare has really taken a toll on the country. you know robotic car also said that before nine eleven there was one suicide bombing and then between two thousand and seven in two thousand and twelve there have been three hundred fifty two it just seems like these drone wars and the country are back firing creating more terrorism as we know terrorism arises from this utter hopelessness were you know on the counter offensive the program they kind of spearheading is really helping people come out of that hopelessness come out of that despair why is it that the u.s. is using this counterproductive methods instead of building up the people of pakistan which would really eradicate that militancy.
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because. what it does and. just to explain to you. if you will and the people. that we. retrieve the basic. sort of. what does happen. were. the. barriers into small groups of maybe fifteen. as they go into a village or there and didn't know they have. what because. it was a. sort of and it was the institutions of the. system
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. and that really is the. but you can see we're going right it does seem very obvious of a solution as i understand it nato is focusing more on military aid to pakistan instead of the aid budget to the artist and has been systematically about thirty seconds here i mean where do we go from here how can people get involved. well reasoned. with. the we do. why should. we not want to bring peace and security but. what's with all.
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the way do you have. to. be. all right well thank you so much for your time for your efforts for coming on the show dr show i have a sultan khan really appreciate it. thank you very much. i say guys let's talk about drugs seriously though i'm sure you've heard by now that colorado and washington state have legalized recreational use of marijuana and the u.s. media has been having a field day. marijuana is now legal in two states marijuana is going to be legal in the state of washington colorado as well sixteen other states and d.c. have also approved it for medical use how might these new laws of the nation's war
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against drugs how might this affect the nation's war against drugs as well i'll tell you how well the media debates how good or bad it is america's neighbors to the south are growing increasingly frustrated with the u.s. policy that continues to plague the region with an epidemic of violent crimes and assassinations with impunity from the law think of it this way for the u.s. to be the morals spearhead of a war on drugs that has cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of people across latin america it's a little bit hypocritical for the u.s. military to ensure that the drug wars and forced in other countries only for there to be places in the u.s. to now openly allowed recreational marijuana use several latin american governments backed by u.s. arms money and encouragement to fight the drug war are now debating what to do as a result of this country's new marijuana laws for example and mexico where over sixty thousand people have died as a result of the drug war in the last six years alone outgoing mexican president
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felipe calderon has called it a paradigm shift on the part of those entities in respect to the current international system luis if they've got a head of the transition team for the incoming mexican president and he k.p.n. there yet though said in a radio interview quote obviously we can't handle a product that is illegal in mexico trying to stop its transfer. to the u.s. when the u.s. at least in part of the us is now has a different status. goes on to say that i believe this obliges us to rethink the relationship in regards to security this is an unforeseen element and this frustration is shared by leaders throughout latin america who after four decades fighting on the front lines of the u.s. government's militarized drug war are now questioning was one of the high cost of lives in places like honduras and guatemala the stakes are the most high considering how the u.s. drug enforcement agency or the da a u.s. taxpayer funded entity regularly conducts raids and targeted killings of foreign
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nationals under cloak of impunity so check this out and recent years the u.s. has been sponsored coups in both. paraguay and continues to fund their notoriously corrupt police and military forces in countries like honduras the us government whores money instead into institutions that are in many ways a forefront of drug trafficking so who does this all really benefit here well it becomes a little more clear when you look at a map of u.s. bases in latin america the countries you see highlighted all host to u.s. military bases and under the pretext of helping these countries fight the narcotics industry the u.s. is continuing its historic role of using latin america for its own empiria list strategies in the same way the u.s. is bombing and setting up military strongholds in countries like yemen somalia pakistan and others on the auspices of fighting the war on terror u.s. military construction of bases and drone operations in latin america are growing
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and all of this is happening despite a growing opposition and mounting evidence of widespread human rights abuses directly linked to the u.s. . but this isn't true in all of latin america although u.s. bases and command posts have doubled in the last few years some leaders are refusing to grant the u.s. a foothold in their countries like ecuadorian president rafael quite a few leave me the last thing on is anti american because if i will always a spade a spade and if there are international u.s. policies as i saw it detrimental to our country or even to that to relax in america will but i will denounce them strongly and i will never allow my country's sovereignty to be affected by the. president put out a closed down the u.s. military base in ecuador and it's frustrating to share with many other latin american leaders although they may not be ready to remove u.s.
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bases because that would mean an end to u.s. funds but there is now a dialogue exploring alternatives to fighting this failed drug war for u.s. interests now the people of latin america have always been opposed to u.s. dominance in their regions but finally we are starting to see the leaders of these countries stand up against the policy of a foreign government that has for so long oppressed their people their economies and their autonomy so let's stand with them. she could leverage or to curb and was able to build the world's most sophisticated robot which on fortunately doesn't give a darn about anything too much mission to teach creation and why you should care about humans. this is why you should care only on the r g dog.
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