as a friend during the soviet era it's today against racial segregation so when apartheid was only were in their late ninety's the new south african government quickly found common ground with russia and re stablished diplomatic relations. today the two countries are members of the brics community with trade estimated half a billion dollars per year and with the next brics summit to be held in the south african city of dubonnet the country's foreign minister mightn't go on a mission that has reaffirmed her country's strategic partnership with russia. your excellency hello and welcome to the show i could do anything i want you and thank you of us thank you very much for being with us today and i want to start with nuclear power because nuclear power is the most talked about subject in russia south africa relations a delegation of your country's nuclear industry association cantor actual last week

on a sort of reconnaissance reconnaissance visit as described by south african media so what did they discover the these reconnaissance people well. what did they discover would be a good question but as you have video footage is shown but maybe just a bit of our current history and not where we've come from this country is known and not my add by many ordinary south africans who remember the contribution. of the big guys in for the recent during the soviet era on how you took our own struggle. to fight against a part of the deal is your own so those experiences haven't been forgotten i was looking the same to you al ilia on but two of our defense ministers. previous and current have started in moscow institutions long before they ever dreamt that they

would become defense ministers so we are fricken so this people to people ties and relations do matter so there are mechanisms for the visit of south africans to russia would not have been maybe the first for many of them to visit the country so we do have very deep rooted historic ties which are political we would want to as you said and since we signed i take your argument in one thousand nine hundred ninety and having spent almost twenty years of strengthening. diplomatic relations with a new south africa with a real south africa the time is now to take advantage of the. tried to smile and historical linkages to build on economic cooperation on the scientific research and development and on making sure that. we invest into each other's

economy we also take advantage of some of the cars the relative size of the economy and our job digic looking. to strengthen this tells even further boba but russia russia should be interested russian business russian government should be interested in in expanding cooperation and then in turning these these friendly ties into business because there's a new estimate that it might cost up two hundred twenty billion to build all the needed power plants in your country is that a true testament where i am country we are the biggest and the most diverse economy in the continent of africa with think because of our do start to look asian if you were to respond to infrastructure build that our president had announced in the state of the nation. in february of this year where

we will in the next coming three years be spending eight hundred fifty billion rands on infrastructure build there's no moving forward without taking care of the needs of our energy needs but when you link our energy needs to the broader energy needs of the continent of that is on the rise but on the movie a continent that we belong to that has become the second fastest growing region economy currently in the wild with a billion people was so much best for energy so you're not just looking at south africa but you also looking at the six hundred million. population of the greatest sub-saharan africa that needs this energy now so so so you think that russia is considering south africa as

a gateway into africa's into taking part in rebuilding africa's economy well a broader base like us suddenly all the time i believe if our russian would be now because of the investment he made in the past we know that russia has got diplomatic relations with many of the african countries if not all but also to save because of the. advantages that are valued. mainly russian companies have started setting up shop in south africa intending south africa jarman's beg. for server as they are as their original hubs and they have more than welcome listen but is. fricker really ready to praise these hundred or more than one hundred billion dollars for this plant power project because there have been rumors in the press that south africa may even quit the project with russia because consider that to too costly. do you have any

alternatives well so through. and through our minister for energy has come out to pronounce but because of this big energy deficiency in that we have where i will go on the big energy infrastructure bent. we will use the power utility company as. we will use the then known. energy provision every news like you are in europe will energy sector the coal generated and also nuclear we cannot avoid that in cause we are your name producing country in even in our neighborhood there are other countries that do so. but following norms of democratic rule this is an open term and russia is one of the city has been. one of the builders me means

that there are competitors and russia still has to struggle to get the contract is actually here i don't say start russia is one of the serious catalysts serious contenders but what are the most important areas the economic cooperation energy is one one else well one of which we have confirmed today as we were closing the eleven i take it in together with the minister talks going is. mining. mining technologies and beneficiation so that we just don't focus on extraction but also on value added rushes of africa we're known for our mining particularly in my goodness of an iron all we've got investors who are looking at both the venue's south africa has interest in in working with the with russia in the platinum sector.

all platinum group of metals but also in the in the oil and gas. both ways there are sort of the can companies that think they are opportunities for them in russia and russia but things they really want to set up shop for their immediate expansion in south africa but also in the neighborhood city here you're talking to a country. that has become the fifth brics member why the country that is running the biggest and most diverse economy in the continent with a relatively high infrastructural. builds already in the oven but also with the financial services sector but posed to be among the best in the weald but also talking about mineral resources we have

a potential to extract exploit beneficiary minerals of different. bases to achieve of two point six trillion dollars. today with others you can see the potential is there but you still have to do this to do that to reach out to those minerals but with us they be economy example of south africa and our experience of more than one hundred years in mining it's what is happening today despite all the challenges of having to do with the disparities of the past so that the benefit for this natural wealth doesn't does go to the minority but it's shared by all citizenry in the country we country that comes from a continental way. sixty percent of the population is below thirty five young growing. population but is a potential to form

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welcome back to spotlight i am al green of in just a reminder that my guest on the show today is my new quanah musher bana south africa minister of international relations and karp ration your actual see you minutes ago you mentioned the joint commission you co-chaired in ashes the south africa russia intergovernmental committee on trade and economic trade so. what decisions have you taken during that session moscow were there any specific projects decisions that you can mention definitely. we have confirmed that on the sidelines of the brics summit that will be a hose that for the first time. on african soil in an african country south africa

in much the next year there will be on the sidelines of birds a presidential submits between president put in and president when will that happen it will happen on the sidelines of the summit the brics summit in march next year in devon. we are going to be looking at furthering economic ties in the films that i have already alluded to in the mining sector in the energy sector remember in the energy sector we're not just looking at mitla but we're also looking at the i p p's and on the role of the independent power producers looking at the possibilities of getting energy validation companies that are going to participate in bad but also on exchange of information and knowledge in this scientific research remember this and you also not only a scientific success but space and astronomic because south africa is just one bid

on hosting the. the big international telescopes in the square kilometer area so that's just one plethora of scientific research and masterman me that is on the or was on the avail so will also be focused on science and technology and education and among others but also on trade. we have seen our trade between our two countries increasing almost five fold but we think we still just question the sufi's if we take the historic ties in between the good relations that that that our countries the two countries has we are in visiting the signing of ten bilateral agreements and more you are also taking stock of progress that has been made on the thirty five agreements that have been signed and prior is what it will buy

we're going to buy we're going to sell for specific products specific products would be well talk to the investments for example we've got a big can service is from south africa into russia today we've got companies that are into paper and pulp industries from suddenly to monday who are here i know that f. and b. miller has set aside a hundred million investment into into. russia just a name but a few but i also know that there are companies. russian companies like your novel that are interested in the dream business already in sort of again the money under sector but we are also discussing collaboration on monday aging power plant to number of sources of platinum group of metals from sources is very interesting a your business woman they have the whole continent to the north i mean how are african continent hungry for products for services but they're ready to go to

russia to invest in russia is new too risky isn't easier and more comfortable for your business want to work in silence with solvent south africans a product of our own people struggles but also secondly product of internationally . so we have an internationalist country we wed. and we're spose. championing of the african by gender wherever we go but we also put another leg on cooperating and collaborating with other friendly nations we are members of brics where either g twenty will host that cop seventeen we have just as it took over the african agenda we just had. madam. dr a minister my elected as the first female chair of the e.u. commission so yes the centerpiece of our foreign policy is their fricken agenda but

we are part of the global village it has been two years right when you join the brics group what were the benefits of that of you becoming officially a member of that of that club of of the runner ups to the top i'm going to talk about south africa and russia. south africa the only african country admitted to brics leading the first to the biggest and the most diverse economy on the continent of africa which is an advantage for the brigs a member countries partnering with via like minded countries of the south but another unique member who if you like would be european but we've got historic ties and links with the countries of the south russia so this was bound to be but not because of the commuter deal that is there but also because it makes economic sense

and russia is seen as a gateway into the image of. a global. region that's that's coming up from the is the european side linking directly with the with the western europe. the imaging economy the biggest on the continent but have these sort of links with both the east european and the west european but also it is the traditional linkages with latin american countries and asian countries like your india and chamber when you joined the brics in one of the interviews you said the south africa would not only benefit but will contribute a lot to the to the course of the brics what was your contributions of well our contribution is how our job graphics are to dig location helps to link those countries economical as we did historically secondly brigs is no longer just

focused on economy development they will be because there will be no development without peace and security we've seen more synergies or issues of reforms of the un and the un agencies including the reforms of the united nations security council the reforms of the burden with institutions the brics countries also are like minded on that but on issues of peace and. curative and the sub illustration of the rest of regions with it i have to i would briggs on this winter working for a global village but where on peace on stability on development on democracy is but also in the respect of integrity interval democracy and the sovereignty of states so that's been our problems here is the you here are saying that you represent the whole african continent within the bridge world do you have any any. certain privilege to represent the other countries to

represent you or your neighbors and would your neighbors think without you representing them in the club i shouldn't be misunderstood i say we are the first african country to be admitted into the building but what is common knowledge is the centerpiece of our foreign policy as south africa historically is about championing the african agenda we are not the only african country that champions the i gender of unity of integration of our economies of build infrastructure build on our continent. african leaders speak with one voice in south africa is very much an integral part of that african favorite durban is going to be the host as well as we said of the next brics so mitt so how's the how's the

preparation going on you said you're that the children be talking about about the about the actual toxins that are going to take place with it but there but in general how is it going on well on logistics side we are more than ready even if the summit was to come tomorrow we will be ready to receive all the four other heads of states in their delegations there's already a build up of of there for mittens. sectoral riches that are taking place between the outgoing. host or chair india and south africa our supplies are busy on the ground we've already agreed on the agenda for the business council and the launch of a briggs business council where families in model it is of building up a brick think tank which will be built by the academy from all of the countries of brics the discussion about waking one looking at the possibility of formation of

the brics development bank out of a food. and the early trade plan for a way. leaders that are between never part steering committee leaders or heads of states of africa and the leadership of brigs it's already been concluded well in a year you mentioned the football world curve you has to go well i am not surprised that after holding the world cup logistics wise you are ready for anything yes but there have been concerns in the press about the security particularly branson some possible ethnic tension so what. to over come the possible security problems that may happen during the summit. our love me a lot because not the first time the thought of a compost. submits of this magnitude. this time around we're hosting

five heads of states. but in the past we've hosted many many more we've always that conference oil conference i do so this is i'm with hose that well suspend the development summit to which was a real plus we've always that cup seven do we have a host that the most spectacular. and the most profitable they say from free fall and second well cup wearing a discussion that i took meeting with my co-chair of of the i took. that russia will in the future host yellows very the winter olympic games you know wants it and also the football but with football you move from one city to the next where you have to take care of all those we have and the most the safest and the most spectacular fifa psycho one of the company and the first time one african continent

scot free we've been strongly believe that we've experienced a host summits of this magnitude and that our focus is that everybody will be safe first we went to make south africans not feel safe but that may be safe but also to make sure that we allow. some needs of this magnitude without incidents thank you thank you very much your excellency for being with us in just a reminder that my guest today was my turn to quantum a sharp bank south african minister of international relations and i think that's it for now come on struggling we'll be back with more comment on what's going on in . until then stay on our city.

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