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if you live on one hundred thirty three bucks a month for food i should try it because you know how fabulous bad luck i got so. i mean. i know that i'm still really messed up. and we're all very so closely. at that. worst year for the little thing the white house or the. radio guy for minestrone. quote for about six years you've never seen anything like this i'm told. hello i'm abby martin welcome to break in this is a very special anniversary one year ago today the u.s. government announced an official and the mission in iraq here's a clip to jog your memory. so as your commander in chief and on
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behalf of a grateful make i'm proud to finally say these two words and i know your families agree welcome home. ok so what is the u.s. military doing today to commemorate this stark event. to create battling. here to turkey or along with the crips that are necessary to man those batteries. so that we can help turkey. have the kind of missile defense that may very well be. with threats that come out of syria. really stunning four hundred u.s. troops to the turkey syria border this move looks all too familiar to me but i guess that's why i'm breaking the set of. the world has never seen anything like what.
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you might have missed this in the days following the thanksgiving holiday but president obama signed a piece of whistleblower legislation that affords greater protection to federal employees who expose fraud waste and abuse and government operations but the bill is a far cry from the reality on the ground because to date obama has charged more whistleblowers under the espionage act than any prior administration combined it's an issue that's close to home for one former f.b.i. translator who blew the whistle on the government back in two thousand and two after learning about serious security breaches cover ups and the intentional blocking of intelligence and ever since she's been on a crusade for justice not just for what's a blowers but also for the many civil liberties that are currently under siege in this country so here to share her story and her insight on u.s. policies in a post nine eleven world i'm joined now by sabella edmonds editor of the boiling frogs and host and founder of the national security whistleblowers coalition as
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well as the author of classified one men the sabella admin story thank you so much for coming on. thank you for having me so suppose for a lot of people who don't know your story can you tell us briefly what happened in the difficulties you encountered getting your story out. well it's hard to believe that this story started more than ten years ago almost eleven years ago and it started when trying to do the right thing for a criminal activities government fraud and abuse and basic retaliations going bad and it didn't stop when i became the most gag moment. in the history of the united states they in both this is the government during the bush administration they invoked the state secrets privilege in my case they actually officially gag the congress. practive classification and stop them
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from holding any hearings on my case and of course the congress loved it because they had a way out and they didn't challenge it even though that gag order was simply illegal because the executive branch can't gag the congress however to comply same thing with the courts as has been the case already over it really didn't get anywhere because when the government goes to courts and says look because that everything about this person everything she says classified top secret then it doesn't matter what you have on your side in terms of facts evidence the courts think just defer to the government and state just by get out if you're going to hear this case and watch all three the executive branch congress and the wides it's been the mainstream media and what i refer to as the was i alternative media here in the united states in the case of not in my case but also many many was laura's specifically national security was that laura since nine eleven of course and also
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your book if i recall they didn't redact the portions other to let you release it so you just want to head and release the books of all goes over corruption at the highest levels of government it's a very explosive book really ever want to check it out over the most damning revelation in the book. well it is i don't know what would be considered the most damning because there are several. a lot of people they just automatically assume and again thanks to the mainstream media that it boils down the same ol same ol government ways and incompetence bureaucracy bureaucracy bureaucratic bungling. but it's far more than that because the government wouldn't go out of its way to jail once the lawyers or tracked or invokes the secrets privilege and gag their entire i get it it is about there there are some major revelations on nine eleven and what you mean you want to be didn't do how many
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things were done on purpose covered up it goes to some really frightening treasonous activities criminal treasonous activities within our government agencies and that includes the state department and the white house the pentagon and some high high level people we're not talking about some low level people have been engaging in security breaches you're talking about activities that been going on for decades and it covers several administrations including the clinton administration the bush administration and even today some of those people who are still active within our government and their new administration the obama administration and when i buy my treason i don't mean just metaphorically or symbolic treason i mean real trees that people who are committing treasonous act
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against the united states its interests and its people security absolutely i think that's a lot of what people do for back to their so it's a big clunky bureaucracy of course you know the right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing it's a lot more than that's the bell as you just said the war the outright war games was a war is intelligence was intentionally through worded i mean what does this tell you and the new york times exposé that describes how much intelligence there in fact had i mean do you think that the government purposefully ignored intelligence because they wanted nine eleven to happen. absolutely i would say certain elements within our government absolutely intentionally purposefully ignore it and let it happen and they haven't been held accountable. and what we have had all the shenanigans from the nine eleven commission or the congregational inquiries none of them went into these topics in these established cases if you look at the number of high level national security whistleblowers who were censured out of.
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luck on the investigations or the so-called nine eleven hearings that includes people like the f.b.i. retired f.b.i. agent coleen roundly you're looking at anthony shaffer you're looking at dozens of people who have come forward who came forward they went to congress they went to the nine eleven commission they went to the media and they can simply ignore it and there and a lot of these are reported cases have been established over the years in bits and pieces and that's exactly what this stablish meant and what the media intended in the first place not to cover all our purposes before avar to just let it get out in little bits and pieces so you won't get that needed outreach from the public to demand accountability to demand answers and of course ten ten plus years later it's just the way things are we live in a post not all the world of course that's the crux of the entire near condit agenda
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of the new police state here and abroad. so of course it stalls super relevant it's absurd that no one has been held accountable of course anyone who questions this is what really irks me and especially people like you and people who worked differently in these entities and these organizations were labeled as conspiracy theorist as radicals and that's really the pejorative term of the news is to shut down the dialogue how damaging is that. fleetly done by design i would say for a beautiful design for us the people of the old fortunate he's been very successful . and that is. i mean if you really look at it not only you know the experts and oneself morris put millions of people considered are considered conspiracy theorists today and it has been extremely a fact when the media including the so-called alternative media i know so many
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reporters journalists who would tell me in private that they truly believe what we have been reporting they truly believe that you know there has been intentional criminal acts in these cases but they are afraid that if they were to touch these topics to write about that even if this cursory they are going to be to label as a conspiracy theorist marginalized and their reputation destroying many many good journalists we can waste an oxymoron how could you be a good journalist and yet be a fact that i guess intentional design is intentional tacky and given so instead i encourage people to say preempt it because if they're calling it conspiracy theories and if your conspiracy theory challenges the government conspiracy theory just stand up and from the beginning how can say my name is about and just like in a meeting and i'm a conspiracy theorist now do you put that aside and then truly they want to have
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much to go on good terms of attacking you because you are pre-amp thinking well what people have been doing in the media experts and unless they are hiding they are there is remaining silent and as long as they do this this tactic just isn't a fact it's working but of course the government's line is a conspiracy there any way you look at it it's a conspiracy either way multiple people acted together to carry out an event that is a concern as if there is such an absurd the rhetoric is just so damaging let's talk about the tears they really quickly you talk about of the tears is essentially an element of psychological warfare of course that in conjunction with the systematic erosion of. the liberty is that with american citizens i mean all of this together compounded elaborate on what you meant by that. well it is it all boils out to power and boils down to the power to establish men wanting you to
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summit not question the system and and the use you into just little you know little tiny little robots that can't order do not challenge due order do not question the orders at t.s.a. is an he's a great example of this you know since nine eleven if you go and look in the point just stand outside and watch people going through these security check lines of k. and have them go through this just like sheep they are afraid to even look to the right or to the left because they don't want to raise the flag there like if i if i were to look nervous they're going to pull me aside and they're going to basically rape me they're going to fund the me everywhere and end all over before these bad guys i mean a lot of these people they don't even have a high school diploma they have been given this power to status of the highest level police all right the actual police in airports and what we do is we bend
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over we really bend down before these people these badges people we remove our shoes ok and this is just like how long before the killings it's not different there is really no difference and rehearsed fraid of them we are afraid of challenging them we don't question it and every day millions of americans are going through this they have been going through this now for over a decade and of course you're i'm not here i'm so sorry to interrupt you but i want to get just one more question this whistleblower protection act or whatever that obama just signed i mean is this a smokescreen it's about as really do anything at all we have about a minute left it doesn't do anything at all and it is not. different then tens of these bills these orders that have been side signed in the past few decades look at the actions look at the top and in us as always with the laws you have to look at the fine footprints there all the people from the intelligence agencies law
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enforcement agencies military are excluded it says it doesn't stay bald on the top like the media likes to advertise this is the great presidents signing protection for whistleblowers go down go doubters order look at the footprints and you will see that f.b.i. excluded cia is excluded justice department is excluded pentagon is excluded and take a look at these whistleblowers in the past ten years the most courageous one and you see that these was the glories have come from these agencies so basically they are saying when it comes to war military intelligence abuses criminal conduct we don't want any will stop wars those people are outside the system so we go ahead and give it to i don't know maybe department of education and there are some courageous what will or is there i am not undermining don't people's our courage or status when i'm telling you yes it is no different than what it was ten years fifteen or twenty years ago they look good on the paper even for those of us of lawrence but when the question comes to shove there are there is no teeth in it and
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as long as you have the same course you have the same congress you have the same executive agencies like the. inspector general's office that he or p.r. you are not going to see any press is going to be the same or and same oh actually guess optimistic hours they spin getting worse and it's going to get worse just take a look at mr obama's record i don't want to call him president obama he's not my president i don't accept him as such but just take a look at his record and see what he has done when it comes to was lawyers and those actions speak far louder than some little were executive order it's fine for us or they were of course that of course the people who would challenge the military industrial complex which is really what's running this government and country than those who are of course excluded from this legislation that is so much subelements editor of boiling frogs post founder of the national security was a coalition of really appreciate you coming on thank you i mean keep up the good work. feel like crazy so far go to our youtube channel at youtube dot com is us
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it is me. it's. nice. to. see. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. the most influential science technology innovation hall the list i'm elements from
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around russia we've dumped a huge earth covered. so guys as we already mentioned today marks the one year since obama commemorated the formal end of the u.s. mission in iraq but stability in the country is still a long road ahead but while we have one eye on iraq another idea is a fix on afghanistan america's longest war in which two thousand americans and countless afghans have already died but progress in the country is yet to be seen point that afghan president hamid karzai blames in part on the united states check out what he had to say just last week. for a number of years. a girly perception the kind of stuff. that.
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it is significant portal it's accused of in afghanistan it's caused by do we. know that states and some of its allies. promoted to. get started by spreading corruption in afghanistan by. employing private security firms who became older all and do it was a very strong perception to some of the interesting yes. so here to talk about america's strategy in afghanistan and what the solutions are going forward i'm joined now by about brown brookings fellow and author of aspiration and villains strategies and realities of counterinsurgency and state building in afghanistan thank you so much for taking the time to come over here so you just heard karzai what he had to say do you agree with the perception that afghans think that the
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u.s. is creating instability there in the region well i do not agree with that and that is the strand in the political system in afghanistan that believes the president karzai finds it very convenient to use that line and he is right that there is tremendous amount of. rule of law and afghanistan there is tremendous amount of corruption the blame lies firstly and foremost on the shoulders of this government and. yes there have been problems with how aid has been channeled into afghanistan that have created been problems with security companies many of which are of consequently companies and that. include option as well as the perpetration of other crimes but more fundamentally the system is deeply corrupt there is a lot of corruption surrounding the palace and president karzai has not shown much of time and i tall will take the power brokers and take on corruption easier to
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pass the buck of course when you look at the long history of the you know the us funding both sides ninety percent of our. afghans hold a couple years ago didn't even know what nine eleven was in certain regions when you were there did you get the sense that afghans believe that this war is meant to be sustained i mean when you just see recent news of blackwater sponsoring special operations troops there and also the extension of troops there until two thousand and twenty four potentially the strategic packed with cars destruction well it's very interesting how i perceive football for us and but the states and the international community should continue being caged off the twenty foot team in no doubt that in many afghans are tired of the foot in this presence and for many the foot in this presence has brought violence and instability permanent the compass that aided us between the west and the taleban and although that has been the real progress against the taliban insurgency it's not taking place uniformly the east of the country continues to be hotly contested a lot of ethnic tensions are brewing but at the same time of dance are very deeply
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afraid of the international community abandoning them once again they are very deeply afraid of the united states not demanding engaged militarily gonna stand off the twenty fourth and not supporting the. the afghan national security forces and they are afraid that this ability to do talabani taking large parts of the country in civil war breaking out elsewhere. yeah i mean going back to mentality that you said a lot of afghans have that they don't want to leave but at the same time of course they don't like the occupation i mean where do you think that the wave of recent insider killings the green on blue killings are coming from is it just. what you think the main cause of that is. this one of the big developments of this past year is the number of. attacks by members of the afghan national security forces against nato forces i think that i will deploy because this perhaps some members of the taliban or the sleepers or people who sympathize with the taleban. probably
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personally this. individuals who. some graduates feel that being mistreated and they have a type i support says now we have to keep in perspective that the number of times have been about fifty in this past year and that the level of international presence has still been close to one hundred thousand for most of this year now it's down. to less than bad and the number of gun forces about three thousand three hundred fifty thousand soldiers so out of this you have fifty attacks so you know that it's very appropriate to draw the conclusion that all of a wall of national security forces have turned against the west but the reality is that the inside that attacks have had a big impact they have shaken around they have. changed the way nato now engages with afghan national security forces the level of partnering is now considerably. and they have had
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a negative impact on the cooperation and the training and support for the security forces of course here and i was the more just drags on and on you know of course that's going to create more instability less morale with the troops and also the afghans i mean you talk in the book about counterterrorism. when you say that the counterterrorism operations as they exist today would you say that they've failed they need to be morphed into other things i think when a lot of people look at iraq they say the country is almost worse off now i mean the infrastructure electricity running water all of these things it's almost would have been better if we never went in at all i mean how can we make sure that that doesn't happen in this country and you know clearly from the perspective of many afghans the situation would not have been better if you had not gone in and in fact you know right after the two thousand and one two thousand very many afghans will come international presence i also want you in the book there are lots of these aspirations have not materialized and the afghans are profoundly unhappy about the
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decade brought continuing violence bitches generated by. it's still a bit of a bust taliban insurgency a very unequal economic progress in some ways guns are much better off they have access to schools they have access to health clinics in a way that didn't exist at all in two thousand and one but jobs are still lacking in the konami is not doing well and profound that the political system is deeply illegitimate is seen as deeply illegitimate that is a great deal of corruption and abuse in the system that afghans deeply resent shouldn't we just focus more on maybe like a marshall plan initiated where we just focus only on education infrastructure really things that help the afghan people because i feel like just killing more people are going to create this perpetual war you know it could be war importunity we're going to galvanize the whole band and the reality is however that insecurity our security have critical impacts on economic development and schools i mean today we are seeing a lot of times on schools that are built by the taliban many schools have been shut
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down once again even in the taleban doesn't physically blow up the schools that have been created it often tries to assassinate teachers especially female teachers so one cannot assume you can do security or you can do konami development or social policy without having security and that has been one of the knobs of the problem that the security has been french allah has not expanded sufficiently and in fact we have seen big drops in security from two thousand and five until about the search two thousand and ten and then a stabilize ation with some improvements but it did us that do not see the improvements moreover with that that it will be a very radical departure of the international community the united states is trying to sign a status of forces agreement invade afghanistan to stay in but the numbers look very very different and they do a number of the british very different and there will be also associated with that a big drop in international aid coming to an afghanistan and some of the money that has been keeping the afghan economy afloat and so twenty fourteen which is the year
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of transition will be a big security shock the other. it's now being far more responsible for this like going to that country than they have been and at any point in the day those will be a massive economic shock and inevitably a big drop in the country's g.d.p. all of which will not be offset by continuing foreign aid and a big political shock because that will be presidential elections and presumably end of president obama he will definitely a shift needs to be made and soon with the failure of policy as it stands thank you so much for coming on breaking it down vonda bob brown from the brookings institute for sheer time. all right guys that's today's show but i don't want to go without a quick update on something that's been critical of our team's coverage of gaza no it's not alex so scary that man israeli fire foreign minister avigdor lieberman affairs office bashed this network and even tried to justify the shelling of artie's office in gaza he's been indicted and as of today he resigned from his post in the government leaving office in disgrace and even say karma have
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