most new evidence including revealing the statistics regarding a number of racially motivated jury selection process is one of these death row inmates tim tillman golson sorry had one of the most controversial cases in this recession in one thousand nine hundred seven gulf and was convicted of killing a highway patrol trooper and a sheriff's deputy during a traffic stop but his lawyers were able to show that the jury selection patterns reveal how prosecutors have been preventing african-americans from participating as jurors were just completely constitutional take a look at how the judge explained the ruling. although they committed heinous crimes they were sentenced to death in a process that was focused more on obtaining death sentences than it was of ensuring that the process was fair. furthermore an attorney representing the three defendants added quote the evidence that our capital punishment system is infected by racial bias has become too great to deny and indeed another interesting

aspect of the racial bias that can't be denied is what's revealed in a michigan state university study that shows an alleged killer of all white victims is two point six times more likely to get the death penalty so to talk about the issue of capital punishment and the findings from a newly released two thousand and twelve death penalty report i'm joined by richard dieter executive director of the death penalty information center thank you so much for taking the time to come on thank you for having me so you've been working with this issue for a number of years clearly the center you work for it's put out a report we put out a report every year what are the major findings of this report that the death penalty in the u.s. is dramatically down in terms of the number of states carrying out executions the number of death sentences and the number of executions itself were planning a shrinking and in isolation of the death penalty in just a few areas of the country why what are the main factors you think attributed to this decline i think the biggest thing that happened was the revelations that

mistakes are made in the death penalty case that even innocent people can get the death sentence and may be executed that has made jurors courts legislatures all very cautious about imposing the death penalty and carrying out executions so the whole system has shrunk and is really down to about four states carrying out executions that was about seventy nine percent of our executions for just four of our fifty states this year talk about what states those are that the practice ensures that texas which had the most by far every year and oklahoma arizona and mississippi so most of them in the south and you know but still many states in the south like georgia alabama virginia no executions at all in many had no death sentence. well that's good to hear what you think the main flaws of course are you you mention a lot of people who have been exonerated what are the main flaws of the capital punishment system in general do you think the biggest problem that people have

after the issue of innocence is the unfairness the sense that similar crimes don't get the death penalty and then one out of the blue does get it he gets executed he probably is somebody with mental problems probably didn't have a very good lawyer or probably there might even be race aspects to the way the trial was conducted of those aren't always consistent in every case but the sense that overall it's a roll of the dice who gets the death penalty and that randomness is unfair right indeed and also talk about the states that offer some sort of retribution i know that there's a couple states offer for. was exonerated or or released from prison do you know any statistics about what those people are compensated with well a lot of states now have that it's not just for a death penalty case here it is because somebody just wrongly accused and general there's been so many of the d.n.a. has has led to this is that you know three hundred cases and so most states now

have some compensation program but often you have to prove that you're actually innocent not simply that your conviction was overturned and that you're freed which is a lot harder thing to do one thing to say clearly there's not enough evidence to prove you guilty and another thing to say absolutely somebody else did it especially twenty years after the crime so although there is these compensation funds it's still very hard to get money from them i'm sure it is and of course after you've been wrongly accused and potentially sitting in jail for sometimes decades it's hard to start your life over again once you are indeed released a lot of these people do end up back and in prison you know is there an initiative now you said d.n.a. evidence we've seen a lot of a lot of these people being exonerated we now have a lot more forensic testing that we can show that these people did indeed commit the crimes that we've said a lot of these things are based on circumstantial evidence is there an initiative now to kind of retroactively go back on all the cases of people on the death

penalty and revisit them well not not a comprehensive system now you have something like in virginia where they really cut back on the death penalty they said in cases where there's d.n.a. we're going to look at those because there's new testing and we you know the testing wasn't done in the trials fifteen years not every state is even willing to go that far if you do have you know clear proof that you'd be able to marshal it from the beginning you can maybe get a court but there's no system federal or state that is automatically reviewing every case they believe that the appeals process is sufficient even though it's using. sort of you know the old trial and saying well that seemed fair rather then based on the new standards. there are reforms being made in terms of the racial bias and kind of looking at the systemic problems of why a lot of these people are wrongly accused or just based on purely circumstantial evidence of course someone should be put to death and in that case but morality

aside i don't think people realize how expensive it is and how long the appeals process takes decades in some instances i mean talk about the costs involved that this is a new issue of course states have to balance their budgets and they're finding that the death penalty is a very expensive program part of that is driven by this innocence issue because we have to have better trials we have to do a better job not you can have innocent people that means better paid lawyers with more experience if they need a psychiatric expert sure if they needed to investigate the person's background or a d.n.a. test all of that is adding up to at least three million dollars to get a death sentence and. if it were a life sentence case it's closer to a million dollars for the total cost so three times as much every time they get the death penalty and that adds up i know where hundreds of cases millions of dollars california is. spending about one hundred eighty million dollars

a year on the death penalty and as a californian i know it costs ninety thousand dollars per inmate per year annually more than people just regularly incarcerated i cannot but wonder why do you think that referendum was voted down in california well i think there's a reticence to maybe just hold on to the death penalty for that imagined climb that we might need for they haven't had an execution there in seven years they've got this backlog of seven hundred twenty people on death row each costing. a year. and that's true around america that there's sort of a. ambivalence of this sort of. a willingness to hold on to the death penalty although when it comes to executions or even death sentences there are disappearing so it is a bit of a contradiction right now some states connecticut this year two thousand and twelve abolished the death penalty illinois last year so some states are taking that the final step but it's difficult politically well and going off of that the u.s.

is one of the last industrialized countries in the world that still practices i mean we are up on par with here from iran and china and right up there in terms of these countries that still practices in my eyes it's barbaric anyway to kill someone there's really no humane way to do that what do you think it is i mean it's kind of this existential question is it the eye for an eye thing. so i think people look at the u.s. and rightly see it as having the death penalty but when you look at it in fine fine grain report did you see is a country that isn't using the death and that many of the people are willing now to to let it go they don't want to impose it but it's a state by state process here rather than you know i don't expect congress to violate it or even the supreme court. state it is slowly disappearing and at some point the u.s. will join that main stream of human rights around the world right now you know you either have it or you don't so we do have it but i think in reality it's slowly

deteriorating and will disappear all hopefully we will follow suit and you're right of course i would be it would be hard for a federal law to completely abolish it but you know i do hope that we can see these states kind of overturn it and really come to that sort of ground breaking point that the rest of the world seems to have already come to terms to thank you so much for coming on breaking it down giving us some insight on the new report richard dieter appreciate your time all right thank you very much thank you. now if you like what you see so far go to our you tube channel youtube dot com slash breaking the set and scribe check out our facebook page at facebook dot com slash break into that and if you're wondering about what i'm doing when i'm not on air follow me on twitter at abby martin if you can break my preaching but stay tuned to hear discussion on the new tragedy and the root causes of these mass shootings at large next. wealthy british style. sometimes.

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elaine. the shooting at an elementary school newton connecticut this past friday killed twenty seven people including twenty children it was the second deadliest shooting in u.s. history and is one of many tragedies and a laundry list of the mass shootings that have taken place in recent years take for example the thirty two students who died at virginia tech university or the twelve killed in fifty eight in. it's in a current that's seemingly becoming cyclical nature in this country and it's certainly a cause for concern thereby warranting a discussion on the underlying problems that go on address in our society so here to talk more about the recent new massacre in the root causes of mass shootings a large i'm joined by ron here colic independent journalist and editor of

dispatches from the underclass a log of ranya thanks so much for coming on and you for having me so i've noticed that you have been on a rampage of stories that you've been totally on top of this writing a lot of amazing stuff on twitter or on your blog ever since this occurred i mean we've seen a surge of these shootings happen just in the last couple years why do you think this is so unique to america. well i think first and foremost because we have so many guns in this country something like three hundred million that's almost one gun per person. and we have very few restrictions on research and on you can buy guns and how many guns they can and it's so easy in this country to get it just have a gun not just one but twenty thirty so obviously that's one reason access to guns is just prevalent so if somebody is angry and they want to take it out on innocent people they get why now i mean what do you think about do you think that the

anything else is up play here like the glorification of violence in the military i mean video games that are so realistic that even army the army uses them to show people and to train them i mean shows like the walking dead where you're blowing zombies help with machine guns i mean every movie posters as these people with semi-automatic rifles i mean do you think that any of this other this culture of violence that we're bred into in this country does that have anything to do with it or do you think it's just the amount of guns or do you think that's all at play here. well i think you make a really good point i think it's not just one thing you can blame it on one thing it's a multitude of things and we do have a very violent culture we you know i don't i mean you can only you can just blame it on that though i mean we have we we perpetuate a lot of by we we perpetrate any perversion a lot of violence around the world we do have a military that we send to places like afghanistan and pakistan and yemen that are

killing people all the time innocent people children. and this is almost normal i mean people have generally accepted this as ok and justified. we do have a very violent culture in this in terms of yes we do glorify violence but there haven't really been any direct link to watching something violent makes you more violent but it does desensitized to violence it makes you i guess work that thing of violence is what that is just so i don't mean that that may play a role but i think you know first and foremost i think it's really important to point out that yes this is a complex issue and we can talk about all of these things that one but the first thing we need to do is it address is gun control we're going to have all these guns in this country and we're going to continue to let anybody that's guns not just legally but the people can get them as well and you know there's no back just as all these issues that we need to deal with it's not just one thing but i do connect

gun control with really. really help decrease the amount of gun violence that we have well i want to i want to put a devil's advocate here i want to i really agree. society and of course it's hard to look at so many complex issues and point to one thing but i wanted to point out this article that i thought was really interesting and it's a town called kennesaw georgia that plunge and crime and violence after mandating every household to own and know how to operate a gun they haven't had a fatal shooting in twenty five years apparently how do you respond to something like that. well i don't think that necessarily means that because everybody's armed there hasn't been a shooting like i said it obviously there's other complex issues that go into this . you have to understand that certain areas are more violent because of certain societal factors like poverty. by the drug war makes areas where that's what you have more violence instead you than you do in the suburbs so just because an

area might be full of people who are armed doesn't necessarily mean that that's the reason why i mean you have to look at whether. you know whether they're out there you know with the income but the socio economic factors an area you know so obviously there are other things to look at i don't think you can just say that that's the reason i don't i also don't think that there's ever been a time that is i've seen anybody point to where somebody with an unarmed person was actually able to stop a mass shooter so that people also have to consider that your notion that we should start arming teachers in schools so that we can be able to conceal carry into these gun free zones is somehow or the reason for violence and shooting that really take place but i'd like somebody to point me to as the legal single time when somebody was able to stop a masher because there is that one guy in the mall shooting that happened not too long ago who claims that he stopped that gunman because he was armed and poor gun i

don't really know the full story about that but but i agree i mean arming teachers i mean that's just going one step in to crazy land i mean so many mistakes are made putting guns in classrooms with kindergartners i mean we're it's just a new cycle in the mad as i want to go really quickly though into anti psychotic drugs mental health i mean we just learned today that the killer knew it was on a drug called the napped an anti psychotic drug that pretty much has the opposite effect to some people that creates aggressive behavior i mean it comes out the almost all these killers are on some sort of psychotropic medication do you think that we need to be talking about treating mental health the pharmaceutical lobby in this country that has one of the only countries in the world that has directed consumer advertising. like i said i think that we can talk about all of these things at once of course we should be talking about mental health but i do has a team to point to mental illness as the reason for the shooting because we've yet to see whether this particular individual would ever diagnosed with

a mental illness he did have asperger's but there's no link between asperger's and being more violent especially in this particular manner so in terms of the drug he was on i i i did see reports about that although i'm not sure if that was based on hearsay or is somebody actually confirmed this i don't know you know about that better than i do but you know as there are these there are these anti-psychotics that do have these effects as younger people of causing the opposite of what they're supposed to be right which is to make a person more aggressive. again i think there's no link between it there's no direct link between mental illness and by lens there are certain your mental illnesses that you know people who are violent may be more likely to commit violent acts but again i just think that we should be really really careful when we do talk about mental illness in these cases because there are a lot of people who have mental illnesses who are violent i mean. you know

statistics show that people with mental illness are actually more likely to be victims of violence than she knew the perpetrators but i guess you need to be talking about mental health it turns out this person was on some anti-psychotic that you know there are that that does call these adverse effects of course well but i think that you shouldn't be conversations that we're only how big when there's a mass shooter of course of course and unfortunately we're out of time i encourage everyone to go to your blog dispatches from the underclass you post some really amazing questions just about you know would we be paying as much attention to this event if there were minority children or just a lot of cool things go to our blog check out everyone and they get on for crown run your college appreciate your time thanks for having me. i talk a lot about over warfare on the show bombings assassinations torture what i don't talk about enough is covert warfare the u.s.

military has been engaging in some experiments of mind control for decades that will blow your mind and who are the guinea pigs well us of course the start of the testing of psycho chemical agents used on americans during the cold war much of them were conducted at edgewood arsenal now these tests consisted of drugging volunteer soldiers with over two hundred fifty chemical and biological agents and for the most part the test subjects had no idea what they were being exposed to and these were nasty poisons like sarin an extremely toxic and deadly chemical that inhibits the nervous system and vieques a neurotoxin that's regarded as one of the most dangerous chemicals ever made keep in mind these are the same chemical weapons that the u.s. military went after saddam hussein for allegedly having and it's the same chemicals that the u.s. is drawing a red line over with assad's regime in syria oh the irony well here's an old army video showing the test subjects reacting to the drugs. preclude there are a neurological effects such as a taxi. or calms you know sometimes

there's the compulsion to laugh without the feeling of amusement. this particular program was suspended in one nine hundred seventy five but because all the test subjects were sworn to secrecy we'll never know the long term effects of what this program did to these people but this little american history lesson is far from over it goes much deeper and much darker now aside from plane with toxic chemicals the u.s. government is using psychedelic drugs of course there are legal for us to choose to consume on our own accord but is apparently perfectly fine for the government to randomly drug americans with hallucinogens completely against their will starting in the one nine hundred fifty s. during the cold war the cia launched an extensive decade long research program focused on l.s.d. called m.k. ultra their goal finding the perfect truth serum to use against the soviets and perfecting the technique of mind control not according to

a line taken from an interdepartmental memo from congress the program proposed the question can we control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature such as self-preservation wow even more appalling than these elements of psychological warfare is knowing that the precursor to the m.k. ultra program was a nother program called operation paperclip which was an active recruitment of former nazi scientists into burgeoning u.s. research programs and i know it just keeps getting crazier doesn't it well hang tight under the umbrella of the m.k. ultra mind control testing program the cia launched a smaller operation called midnight climax consider the cia's and raunchy pet project but this one didn't involve volunteers under the control of the deprived minds of george white and sidney gottlieb these scientific experiments began on

unwitting american civilians ghalia the stablished safe houses in new york city and san francisco using drug addicted. to lure in human guinea pigs were unknowingly dosed with potent amounts of l.s.d. gottlieb and crew that observed their behavior through to a mirrors in rooms fitted with surveillance equipment sick but it wasn't just prostitutes and their gottlieb's sordid mission the cia gave psychedelics to hundreds of unsuspecting americans used as nothing more than guinea pigs for their nyquil pursuits many of which were mental patients prisoners and drug addicts and in one extreme circumstance and mental patient in kentucky was dosed continuously with l.s.d. for one hundred seventy four days straight but the cia was also dosing each other as well as military officers resulting in many subjects going mad in one instance an agent committed suicide can you imagine mad men style cia goons tripping balls on l.s.d. the cia pioneered the l.s.d. revolution before hippies even existed and all these crazy experiments continued

until nine hundred sixty four with the resignation of cia director allen dulles and eventually expose m.k. ultra and operation midnight climax with some declassified documents but it was all for none because the experiments were deemed useless they never found a truth serum and they still can't control our minds yet but they sure as hell did ruin hundreds if not thousands of lives in the process and we now know about all of these documents today and. thank you to the bumbling of our bureaucratic government releasing some of the documents that were saved but the take away to this blast in the past about nazi scientists were given carte blanche to help administer unknowing americans of mind altering drugs and they were never held accountable now in the late the cia will go to control society and knowing that they were capable of doing these horrific things sixty years ago you have to wonder what are they capable of today and what are they doing today.

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