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. to succeed only. to. get your song. out nato says with respect to. the story. because. it's. the same solo in. the what i mean. is that i'm thinking it was a major fail on the part of the obama administration he added that obama's signature means indefinite detention without charge or trial as well as the illegal

military commissions will be extended he has also jeopardize his ability to close guantanamo during his presidency scores of men who have already been held for nearly eleven years without being charged with a crime including more than eighty who have actually been cleared for transfer may very well be imprisoned unfairly for yet another year the president should use whatever disgracing he has in the law to order many of the detainees transferred home and finally step up next year to close guantanamo and bring a definite end to indefinite detention. well that's as an appear to be any time soon there's newly psylocke could be an early sign that despite a fresh start a new election could be looking at a lot more of the same from president obama's first term. well after one of the least productive terms of congress in history the one hundred twelfth congress is now behind us one hundred thirteen sworn in today and one of the most important aspects of what business actually gets done and when actually has to do with the

rules now every new congress the house of representatives votes on its rules but the upper chamber of the senate wearily ever does we've heard they actually may do so this year to try to prevent a quote super majority from being necessary to pass anything through the senate and james some of the rules running the filibuster while the sunlight foundation is recommending they look at other rules as well i think it's fair to say that most of their recommendations shine a light on the need for the senate to be more transparent it is after all twenty thirty people who travel to work on a wife i excessive trains were in their i pad while listening to their i pod will checking twitter on their smartphones and yet quite a bit of official business of those who the we elect and pay to represent us is not posted online anywhere or easily accessible to the public earlier today i spoke with daniel schulman policy counsel with the sunlight foundation i asked him what the significant changes are that the senate should make to better represent the

people. well i think the most important change is right now the senate thinks of itself and rightly so as one of the all this continuing deliberative bodies they don't think of themselves oftentimes in terms of what the public needs with their needs to be is a presumption of openness where if you go to a senator or a committee or to the chamber itself and you say i want this information at the risk the default answer is yes i'd be happy to give it to you here it is oh well we've got all these are rules and procedures against why we can give you know against why we can't give them to you i think that's really the first place need to start and from there all of our other recommendations follow yeah and i think you outlined several different things and it's really interesting because as we know when our lawmakers get into the nitty gritty of this process turning a bill into a law there are often amendments added and i know you guys suggest you know having those amendments that are added available in a timely fashion you guys also recommend you know just having a staff directory why do you think this is important well you know it's astonishing

how much information is not available that should be you would think that amendments which all of the members can see something that we the public would be able to see in real time because after all when things are happening when people are watching your show for example to find out what's going on they should be able to go and look at the bill or a look at the amendment or a look at the reports on what's going on and be able to communicate effectively and intelligently with their elected representatives but all too often this information is either later not available at all and that is simply that is not acceptable yet it's really interesting we were just talking about the n.d.a. and that's a bill that was signed for the first time on new year's eve two years ago and a lot of the amendments you know we talk about this bill i mean they're much thicker than you know the paper that i'm holding right here and so to get really through that it takes a long time and often you know the public and the media doesn't get a chance to do so until they've already been passed i mean do you think if these amendments were posted that people would take more active role in their government take take a more active role in kind of trying to figure out what those you know paid to.

represent them are doing i think that's up. i think that's right i think people would pay close well they already are paying close attention they're already frustrated by their lack of access now a couple things would happen one is that of course there are all the lobbying organizations and many of them already have somebody on the inside they already have someone who can find out what's going on with the rest of us or those who don't have these highly effective highly you know well paid folks don't have the same access to information so what we're really proposing is leveling the playing field and it's not just us it's the meme it's access to oftentimes what's happening in the committees in the subcommittees if you can't see how the sausage is being made you can see who's putting something in it and we really need to know that kind of information and i think that's a good point and i think it's even when it is available and i do know this but you guys kind of laid out in terms of some of these public documents the process that it takes he said public documents held by the secretary of the senate for public review can only be a to obtained by printing them during a visit to the senate office of public records on capitol hill. d.c.

is not even a state so people who live in d.c. this might be a little more convenient to go to capitol hill and knock on the door and you know prints and things out the majority of people in this country live in the fifty states including some of them on the other side of the country in order for them to get access to some of these public documents they would need to fly to d.c. and do this it's ludicrous not only do they have to fly to d.c. but they have to pay to access these records and they're already know they're trying to have some way how much ten cents a page wow and of course these bills as we know are hundreds and hundreds of pages you're not going you know for the legislation you can get but it's for all the i think super so it's filings about oh i have to hire an attorney because i'm engaged in a unethical behavior or here is where i've been traveling is you know where my stuff i've been traveling on these particular corridos things like that you have to go and pay to have access to the personal financial disclosure reports for the members so you have a choice either you don't get to know what's going on you do get to know what's going on because you use a pay service that send someone in there to print

a ten cents a page or you have the money in the where with all they go and travel the travel. to washington and collect yourself none of these circumstances make any sense this information is already available electronically to the senate all they have to do is use something that we've been using in the u.s. for twenty twenty five years and put it online yeah really that's on the internet and you know there's plenty of eager you know interns on capitol hill that could use a scanner or you know it seems very easy let me ask you this i mean you say it's ludicrous i think it sounds kind of shady i mean why do you think this hasn't been done yet oh well it's obvious right it's because they don't want people to have access to this information it's disclosure but it's obscurity so it's hiding information in a particular kind of way that's why they make people travel down there that's why it makes it hard for reporters to be able to tell the kinds of stories that need to be told for citizens to get the information that they really need to have yeah even reporters who are in d.c. who are even a working in the capitol building it's not always easy these are great ideas but

how likely is it that that this will actually change that this will actually happen it depends on public pressure members of congress don't want to waste money may seem perhaps otherwise at times but you have to pay to have someone staff the room so that people can go there to access this information you have to members of congress have to you know if you want to get this for you have to pay to get it this is this is wasteful let me give you a great example so there are some all members of the senate are required to file campaign financial disclosure reports so how does this work they go they file this information with the senate most of the time it's tender and sometimes it's printed in the f.e.c. has to come print the information out and then read it and it cost a couple hundred thousand dollars through this every election cycle there is no reason for this if they simply allow senators to file this information where is the tea party on this they should be outraged they should be outraged and we love to hear more from them being outraged on it but this is a way to even begin to regulate that there is no way to make perfection we expect

perfection in this society and we think you can take any problem and remove all the risk and make the world. can't do it so you do the art of the possible the art of the possible says if you disarm people you create a pool of victims if you allow people who've been properly vetted to go ahead and exercise the right we all have the constitution you at least have a chance to defend yourself i want to go back to something you were talking about as far as washington d.c. said it's one of the most dangerous place that has one strict strictest gun laws in the nation i don't work i just ended the year with the lowest crime rate since one nine hundred sixty one so it is in fact not the most dangerous just because it had five hundred thirty two gun homicides this year and yet they have completely restrictive gun laws in chicago you can make laws you can't make criminals and crazy people follow so i mean the idea that you can regulate this away is a farce just last question for you jim i mean what we saw three weeks ago in a town we saw a december that saw some of the highest gun sales in history we saw. you know more

people buying guns and ever and then this program the armed teachers program we start at least so far six hundred people signed up why do you think that is people assume that barack obama and the liberals in congress are going to do what they promised which is make some extremely dumb rules which have absolutely no effect on people's actual safety so trying to get ahead of the power curve by a gun now because you may not be able to get one later all right always interesting to talk to i think it's important to get all these perspectives out there jim hansen a military blogger black five time at all when you hear the term burden of proof is usually associated with prosecutors trying to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that someone is guilty of a crime most of us wouldn't think about this term in relation to nine eleven first responders. now we know who was guilty of what occurred on september eleventh we've seen the faces of the al qaeda members responsible for claiming the lives of some three thousand men women and children but it turns out that the volunteers who surrendered their time and health to help

a city in need are now being asked to do something they never have been asked before in order to access financial help with their medical bills as part of a fund is stablished by congress in two thousand and ten volunteers must prove they were on the scene helping out the documents according to the law must be witnessed or sworn but in the resulting chaos of the tragedy and cleanup it is not an easy task i was joined earlier by ground zero volunteer jamie hazen and i asked him what inspired him to volunteer at ground zero and what kind of work he did while he was there i was a former new york stadium was certified for six years so i wasn't actually certified at the time of the attacks but there were only so many people in new york state. and at that time so you did what anyone else would have done you went down to help out your city so that's what i did i volunteered initially on day one at chelsea piers doing trios work and then i headed downtown the next day to volunteer at ground zero doing recovery work obviously jamie no way to know that when you did

that when you kind of stepped up and to step in that you were you know no way to know that you were risk for you know illness talk to me about your story what kind of illnesses you can contract and you know how did you know for sure that they're actually a result of you volunteering at ground zero. well the truth is at first i really didn't know christina i had no clue why i couldn't breathe happened you know a lot of the physical the psychological symptoms they sit in fairly quickly and i suffer from p.t.s.d. today and since the very first day it occurred. physical symptoms there is sort of an onset in the latency in the process of how it goes so many many years ago i couldn't breathe i was just sitting at my desk not understanding why i couldn't breathe when from my doctor to the next doctor who referred me to the next doctor and they didn't know it was going on and finally it was a cardiologist who looked at me and she said you know you're presenting very similar to how people at ground zero present who are a member of f.d.a. and why and agencies that are not phones here agencies who are being checked more

regularly when i go up to mt sinai hospital they have a treatment program and see if they can confirm or deny what's going on and then unfortunately they confirmed my breathing issues which i have i have gerd which is gastroesophageal reflux disease. and a host of other elements related to being down there was as a result of being exposed to the toxins and you know and as you've been speaking to me we've been showing some video from a protest that i attended a couple years ago this is nine eleven first responders that came in you know first responders who. as you said new york police department people from jersey people from all over who came in to respond it was their job and we're showing this video right now many of them on you know with extreme asthma with oxygen tanks and will be for the rest of their lives now for those who don't remember eventually the first responders bill passed but it took a long time and a whole lot of fighting and congress first choosing not to vote in favor of this

before they actually you know went ahead and gave the green light to give some of these people the compazine compensation they deserved why do you think it is taking so long and took so long and has taken such a big fight get to. these people and people like yourself what they deserve well christine you're completely correct it is taking and has taken way way too long and i can just tell you on a personal note i feel very cast aside so much time has been put into i'm having to fight and fight and fight to be taken care of but the good news is that it was past the bad news is that it's taking forever it was a christmas miracle of two thousand and ten happy new year two thousand and thirteen now so so we're really looking at so what i'm going to name a whole lot over the last three years i mean talk to me about this process of getting compensate compensation for medical care well well right now for me it isn't a process of getting compensation for medical care because i already am

a part of the mt sinai world trade center medical treatment program so i get my care about mt sinai hospital who actually was up there today for an m.r.i. and i'm there frequently to get care and they're wonderful and what did you find out today well today i'm i got an m.r.i. because i'm trying to find if they're going to go ahead with sinus surgery so far i've had stomach surgery they might have to do sinus surgery they might have to do some modifying to my stomach surgery they're talking about doing some new surgery to my lungs to make it easier for me to breathe there's a there's a lot going on that's there but back to your question which is very important and critical and that is we have the and then this has got to determine who has a legitimate case and who does not and they unfortunately have to figure this out somehow it stinks having to wait i'm really not happy about it feels like it's taking forever but at the end of the day the government shouldn't just hand out money to anyone who puts their hand out i fully believe that's what i was going to

say i mean this is very hard to decipher because they but there really are people out there who will and have tried to take advantage of the system right but i think that those are very few and far between compared to the people that need help there are thousands of responders who. volunteers volunteer in status meaning they didn't work for the new york police department they did not work for f.t. and why they went down there just because it was the right thing to do and they deserved to be taken care of now and they deserve to be cared for in an expeditious kind of a way and there's got to be a quicker way to go about doing this because it seems to be taking a long time but again every time i make a comment like that i stop myself and i say wait a second jamie what if i were a special master of burma and i had to sit there and figure out how do i run this this fund properly and fairly and i think that it isn't it isn't fair to ask them to do to not do diligence they have to do diligence the question is how fast can

you do that diligence to be able to get the relief that the first responder volunteers need not is the big question right now and i think it could be a little bit faster than again not behind the scenes i don't know it's going on but something's got to be done again it's two thousand and thirteen the bill passed at the end of two thousand and ten people need the help they have the proof i'm one of the lucky ones i actually have a picture of me if i could just very quickly share with you when i was down at ground zero i accidentally ran into a paramedic who trained me when i was eighteen years old to be an e.m.t. and you know i was there when i was thirty years old ten years back not to date myself but when it came time to need proof i was thinking great i'm just going to go give him a call and that would be how i'd find proof for unfortunately. captain mcdonough passed away so i didn't have any proof of him i met his boss down there briefly while i was there again these are new people working so i went and introduced

myself to his boss he dug through his desk and this is ray florida who had paramedic services and ray found a picture with me clipped in the corner and now i got lucky because of that but the chances of that happening are truly a miracle for me i think. that's a really good point this is not a time where people were taking pictures for the most part. i can see how it could be very hard to come by this evidence unfortunately we're out of time but it really interesting story i know you and so many others have been going to use so much for giving to this story it's so important what you're doing and i really have to applaud the press for putting the health of the first responder first great job thanks so much ground zero volunteer jamie hazen joining us in our new york studio how the phrase if you don't have anything nice to say about someone don't say anything at all it doesn't normally extend to journalism except so in the case of glenn beck beck is a former fox news host who recently made headlines for trying to sell

a jar filled with his urine for twenty five thousand dollars clearly he enjoys being in the center of controversy and he's at it once again this time he's banned his employees at his news and entertainment network the blaze for mentioning the president by name because well the back is sick and tired of hearing about barack obama here he is talking about this on his radio show. you can play joe biden but i can't take the man's voice i don't want to hear him i don't want to know about him . you want that information go anyplace you know. about let's now you can have all that information you want i'm not talking about that man any more it will of course be tough to report many political stories without mentioning the name of the president now while back maybe the first boss to publicly state that his employees can say the president's name he's not the only one who's.