but he wants to be if he ever he becomes king he wants to be the leader of faith of all play but i think it's a wonderful statement because certainly our society here in britain is very multicultural and very multi-faith so everybody should be included while other faiths enjoy popularity the church of england says recent rejection of women bishops and disapproval of gay marriage has reignited the age old debate on the separation of church and state people feel alienated if they're not part of that church and so few people are because only two percent go to church on a normal sunday so that's why we must i think make sure the church is disestablished in the twenty six bishops that votes in the house of lords the only country in the world to have a parliament where they have the right to do that it should be extinguished britain now has one of the lowest rates of church attendance in europe there is

a rule. in terms of religious opinions there is and that will grow and that future may actually become wider as time goes on and so i guess what we have today is is the church effectively being relevant to certain parts of this country despite centuries of tradition some question what will be left of the church of england in fifty years time oh this is sticks of very clear very clear almost disappeared with something i think the twenty fifty figures are one hundred thousand people in the pews on an average sunday out of a population of sixty million that's miniscule. but the privileges and political influence afforded to it all far from trivial and that's what's fueling the calls of those who say that it's fairer to separate the church from the state police.

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know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm trying hard welcome to the big picture. let's move on now divisions between israel and palestine are showing no signs of hating but while politicians exchange harsh rhetoric it's average people who have feeling the effects of the conflict his point to say have reports now on a region what is really me the checkpoints and diaries my daily life in missouri. israelis cannot live in the west bank and most palestinians cannot live in israel which leaves those israelis and palestinians who want to share a home out in the cold. one hundred my husband this from have broken i'm from

jerusalem i found work in jerusalem and used to live there with my children but without my husband because he is not allowed to live there he couldn't visit me even once at the end of each week i would go to have been to visit him but lived like that for four years well come to no man's land a neighborhood that is technically part of jerusalem but in reality is on the palestinian side of the security wall that israel has built some two thousand mixed couples live here i think. the problem of cooper rocket is that so many people are immigrating to the area because they have to so in four years we've had a growth of thirty five thousand people it's become more crowded than gaza. so hair and stuff one came to live here six years ago with their three children but life in the village is far from ideal the schools are overcrowded garbage is collected only once a week and there's little fresh water so if one is old and sick and basic health

services are hard to come by. my husband and my daughter don't have israeli i.d.'s and they can't pass through the checkpoint any special permission which is very difficult to get on the other hand i am to have my children have israeli id i have a lot of problems far curve is in north jerusalem eighty two percent of the land belongs to jerusalem eighteen percent to the west bank residents pay taxes to the israeli government but because the area lies outside the israeli wall israel is slow to provide services the municipality says that many of the people living in cloud cover are doing so illegally and so it's not obliged to provide them with services it also says that the security wall makes it more complicated to carry out the services and the state needs to give it more money there have been small victories though residents took the municipality to court and one garbage collection at least for now should be more frequent this is the minimal problem

from them is really. an enemy and arabs in jerusalem so we have to care that because we have our right we will be the tax of everything and suffering from that phones and internet access are limited because palestinian companies are not allowed to install lines in a so-called israeli area and because the israeli police won't come here law enforcement is scarce. and. there are poorly booklets like this one the goal is to make them not part of jerusalem and to make them fall under the jurisdiction of the palestinian authority and living in the middle of it all are couples and suffer and they merely want to be together but politics and division are making that more and more difficult every day police fear r.t. jerusalem. and you have more stories for you at r.t. dot com the worst is over and you're an ambassador has been sucked out of also described as a wild water with prostitutes so go online to find out how the story surfaced.

of human rights violations in tibet and the oppression of distinct culture but her attempts to counter that beijing has invested billions of dollars building schools and roads in the region is going on one there to hear how people into better feel towards china. the communist party of china a slogan so wide spread into bird it's even displayed on taxis here everything is

an ambiguous mix of modern technology and tradition communism and religion. and the city center to pray right outside what is traditions are very strong here but at the same time chinese national red flags are hanging almost on every ball and every building is a constant reminder which country that is a part of. for decades china has been accused of occupying tibet and destroying its culture human rights organizations

report numerous abuses there on a daily basis some are even willing to go to the most extreme measures in broadest in almost all instances protests are put through violence so chinese security personnel will come in and will use violence to to basically stop those protests we've documented cases of where the chinese state news lethal force against tibetans in one town fifteen people were shot. as of human rights violations claiming the so often malaysians are organized from abroad or accusing the west of a full scale media assault on china united states has been using to that for. six decades now since the truman administration co-opted to fight communism and they will continue this because their modus operandi these days seems to be human rights violations over the years china spent over sixty billion euros dollars

to build schools roads and water supplies as well as developing in the street from beer factories to cultural workshops. outside the capital in one of tibet's most ancient temples when we ask the monk what he thinks of the exile of their spiritual leader the dalai lama he surprisingly said he didn't hear. the government supplies clothes food and other necessities not the dalai lama i couldn't care less where he was this assessing tibet is not easy even on the ground it's hard to see what's true and what's being deliberately shown to foreigners but what's crucial for the next generation of tibetans is that the mix of ancient traditions and beijing's billions can pay off. the spin off r.t. to bet. and rice also a short break interview with the u.s. national security agency whistleblower.

so how much does it take to get into russian politics how many hours of hard work and how many patriotic deeds does it take to become one of the people who make the decisions and the world's largest country well i'll tell you how much it takes exactly seven point five million euros russia's federal investigative committee has a stablish that allegedly hey of constantine should show of from fair russia and the commies prospectively promised for a fee to get a businessman to their parties electoral lists giving him a spot in the lower house of the duma the investigators have forwarded the state duma an official request to strip the two m.p.'s of their parliamentary immunity and you're darn right they better street have their parliamentary immunity stripped i mean what's worse than government corruption some people in the government being

so corrupt they can actually sell the government itself to someone for a fee so positions in parliament corruption on this high of a level needs to be punished severely breaking rocks in siberia or worse sounds pretty good to me tolerating flagrant corruption does not a great civilization make but that's just my opinion. with. science technology innovation all the developments around russia we. covered. the in. the in. the

end when the on the in the. back with. the. my guest today is william binning a whistleblower former national security agency official he was one of the first to reveal the agency's massive domestic spying program mr binney revealed that n.s.a. sought and received access to telecommunications companies domestic and international billing records that it has intercepted somewhere between fifteen to twenty trillion communications mr binnie also claims that in order to cover its warrantless surveillance the agency concealed it under the patriotic sounding name

terrorist surveillance program mr beaty think you so much for coming in light of the patricius slash alan scandal while the public is so focused on the details of their family drama one may argue that the real scandal in this whole story is the power the reach of the surveillance state i mean if we take general allen thousands of his personal e-mails have been sifted through private correspondence i mean it's not like any of those man was planning an attack on america does it prove does this scandal prove the notion that there is no such thing as privacy in a surveillance state. well yes that's what i've been basically saying for quite some time is that the f.b.i. has access to the data collected which is basically the e-mails of virtually everybody in the country. and they have it at the f.b.i.

has access to it all the congressional members are on on the surveillance to it's not no one's excluded they're all included so yes this can happen to to anyone if they become a target for whatever reason. if they are targeted by the government the government can go in with the f.b.i. or other agencies the government can go into their database pull all that they've collected over them on them over the years and reanalyze it also retroactively analyze everything they've done over the last ten years at least and it's not just about those who could be planning who could be a threat to national security but but also those who could be just it's everybody at the end there is a device simply takes in the entire line so it takes all the data in fact they advertise to advertise that they can process the lines at session rates which means ten gigabit lines that's the nearest. not the s.t.s.

sixty four hundred but the i forget the name but this is another device that they have that does that but it does it at ten gigabits to ten gigabits that's why they're building bluffdale because they have to have more storage because they can't figure out what's important so the storing everything there so that emails going to be stored there for the future but right now it's stored in different places around the country but it is being collected and is there has and f.b.i. has you know has to be to it collected in bulk without even requesting yes the providers and then what about google you know releasing that this by annual transparency report and saying that the government demand for personal data is at an all time high and for for all of those requests in the u.s. google says they complied with the government demands ninety percent of the time but they're still saying that they are making the request this not like it's all being funneled into into that storage what do you say to them well i would soon

that that's the simply another source of the same data that they're already collecting. mark klein in his declarations in the court about the a t.n.t. facility in san francisco documented the n.s.a. room inside that ace t.n.t. facility where they had narrowest devices to collect data off the fiber optic lines inside the united states so that's kind of a powerful device that would collect everything that was being sent that could collect on the order of a hundred over one hundred billion one thousand character e-mails a day one device so that's that gives you an idea of the magnitude of the kind of collection that's going on well you know i think they sift through those are really is the billions of e-mails i wonder how do they prioritize i mean is it like for national first what what's the how do they prioritize how do they i don't trip i

don't think well first of all i don't think it's any filtering they're just going to store it all ok so then it's just a matter of selecting it when you want it so if they wanted to target you they would take your attributes and go into that database and pull out all your data that's what i was going to ask are they meaning my demeanor. i should say there is no yes can you stand generally my name. do you think now that i said that they will stop looking into my me helpless i don't think that will make any difference no if they have they had you on the target list you're on the list where you want cards and i'm sure i i i believe i've been on it for quite a few years yeah so i keep telling them everything i think of them in my e-mail so that they when they read it they'll understand what i think of them. do you think we should all like leave messages for the n.s.a. our mailbox sure mr binney you blew the whistle on the agency when george w. bush was president with president obama in office in your opinion has anything

changed at the agency and just the valence program what in what direction is ricin and spreading taking the program changes that's getting worse they're doing more that's why they i mean he is supporting the building of the bus still facility which is over two billion dollars they're spending on storage on of data so that means that they're collecting a lot more now and they need more storage for it so that that facility by my calculations that i submitted in a sworn affidavit to the court for the electronic frontier foundation lawsuit against an a say. would hold on the order of five thousand exabytes or five zeta bytes of data just at current storage capacity that's being advertised on the web that you can buy currently and that's not talking about what they have in the near future ok so what were they going to do with all of that is ok they're storing it why should

anybody anybody be concerned well if you ever get on their enemies list like a tray assisted or for whatever reason then you can be drawn into that. surveillance do you think they were that general petraeus who was idolized by the same administration when general allen well there's there's certainly there's certainly some questions that have to be asked like why were they targeted to begin with. what law were they breaking or what probable cause did they have in the beginning even as general petraeus i was one would argue that ok they could have been there could have been a security breach arius something like that but with general allen i don't quite understand because that what they were looking into his private e-mails of to this to this woman and well this is that's the whole point the whole point is what prosecutors are there is a beginning and why do they i'm not sure what the internal because michael is you know well that's part of the problem this government doesn't want things in the

public that it's not the government a transparent government to their whatever they're doing whatever reason they had the motive and whatever the motivation was and i'm not privy to it so i don't really know but i certainly think that there was something going on the background that made them target those fellows i mean otherwise why would they be doing it there is no crime there it seems that the public is divided between those who think that the government surveillance program violates their civil liberties and those who say i have nothing to hide so why should i care what do you say to those who think that should be concerned i'm the the problem is if if they think they're not doing anything that's wrong they don't get to define that the central government does they do the central government defines what is right and wrong and whether or not they target you so it's not up to the individual to even if they think they're

doing something wrong if their position on something is against what the administration has then than they could easily become a target tell me about the most outrageous thing that you came across during your work at the n.s.a. well. the violations of the constitution and any number of laws that existed at the time. that that was the that was the part that i could not be associated with that's why i left there they were building social networks on who who was communicating and with whom inside this country so that your entire social network of everybody of every us citizen was being compiled over time so they're taking it from one company alone roughly three hundred twenty million records a day that's how over time that that's probably accumulated up to close to twenty trillion over the years the original program that we put together to handle this to

be able to identify terrorists anywhere in the world. and alert anyone that they were in and under jeopardy would have would have been able to do that by encrypting everybody's communications except those who were targets so that in essence you would protect their identities and and the information about them until you could develop probable cause and then once you showed probable cause then you could do a decrypt and target them and we could do that and isolate those people all along that was no problem at all there was no difficulty in that but it sounds very difficult and very complicated easier to take everything and then you know it's it's easier to use the graphing techniques if you will of the relationships for the world to filter out data so you don't have to handle all that data and it doesn't it doesn't burden you with a lot more information to look at than you really want to look then you really need

to solve the problem so do you think that the agency doesn't have to filter now no . you have received the callaway award for civic courage i congratulate you for that you on the web site in a press release it says it is awarded to those who stand up for constitutional rights and american values at great risk to their personal and professional life. under the code of spy ethics i don't know if there is such a thing i assume well not your former colleagues they probably look upon you as a traitor how do you look back at them oh that's pretty easy they're violating the foundation of this entire country what our entire foundation of what how why this entire government was formed was founded with the constitution and the rights given to the people in the country under that constitution they're in violation of that and under executive order one three five two six section one point seven governing

class occasion you cannot classify information that just to cover up a crime which this is and that was signed by president obama also president bush signed it earlier executive orders very similar one if any of this comes in to the supreme court and they rule it unconstitutional then the entire house of cards of the government falls what are the chances of that what are the odds well the government's doing the best they can to try to keep it out of court and of course we're trying to do the best we can to get into court but so we just thought it deserves a a a ruling from the supreme court ultimately the court is supposed to protect the constitution all these all these people in government take an oath to defend the constitution and they're not living up to their oath of office thank you thank you for a main service. thank

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