into the clothes walked off and i will follow through on. a pledge that remains unfulfilled america's notorious detention camp still open eleven years on was a little outcry in the u.s. . a fresh coalition split in the u.k. after u.s. diplomats said britain should leave the e.u. while prime minister david cameron complicates a referendum on staying in the union. and syria's rainy i'm stockpiles a risk the west is concerned worthy could end up and the conflict while critics say is just another excuse for military intervention.

it is not the russian capital you're watching r t with me marina josh welcome to the program the notorious you as a tantrum facility at guantanamo bay in cuba marks its eleventh anniversary despite president obama's four year old promise to shut the camp while human rights groups are calling for freedom for those cleared for release and for a fair trial for others polls show the majority of americans have moved on as or he's going to check on their reports public opinion in the u.s. relies more on fiction than fact. president obama's call to look forward not backward has resulted in attempts to sweep the past under the rug including some of his own promises i intend to close guantanamo and i will follow through on that colonel morris davis was a chief prosecutor at guantanamo and to george w. bush he later became a vocal critic of the practices there and strongly supported president obama's

pledge to shut down the prison he says the perception of guantanamo in the u.s. has come a long way since two thousand and eight when he was a burning and highly controversial issue with a nation demanding action he gets a free pass on i mean the public largely could care less the mainstream media now here in the us. you know is more interested in car dash and then they are and what happens at guantanamo. so who's going to challenge it if we're looking for the biggest threat to america right now she's right there her name is kim carr does she and her america has moved on and so has its perception of torture polls by the american red cross show the majority of americans now find torture acceptable sixty percent of young people agree whereas four years ago torture was largely condemned in the us. hollywood has arguably contributed to that evolution of public opinion

in the movie zero dark thirty day or trade the information that led to the capture . and killing of osama bin laden was obtained through enhanced interrogation techniques or torture and in fact that's simply not true actual information was obtained through a report based interrogation techniques the government classified everything related to its torture practices which allows politicians pundits and filmmakers the freedom to perpetuate all kinds of myths although a slew of washington insiders including the senate intelligence committee point out how torture has proved to be ineffective but in america it's often fiction not facts that make history this is more important than reality this is the movies where americans learn their history and today the history in the making is the drone strikes this amounts to the administration executing people without due process often in absolute secrecy in foreign lands with

a remote control but will obama's drones generate as much of a backlash as one tunnel did for george w. bush that we've now got have a generation that only knows the post nine eleven era. where things like guantanamo and the. warrantless wiretapping that's all they've ever known you know for a decade now and i think it's just become an accepted part of life unfortunately judging by how the guantanamo controversy evolved here is what may transpire with regards to drones the urgency of the issue will subside in the west because there will be no american troops dying there will be no strong public movement to oppose the program there may even be a movie or two out of the from the logical capability of the drones and once the controversy dies down it will become the new normal and america will move on. in washington i'm going to strip it. all to former guantanamo detainees have can

damn the oscar nominated film zero dark thirty for justifying torture and a call that an attempt to rehabilitate those skills of human rights abuse activist money are who's been campaigning for the closure of the guantanamo camp says the u.s. is violating international law where the world community turning a blind eye. level news has got immense symbolic power and all the things that represents a human rights campaign is people who believe in truth justice and the rule of law it represents injustice before the americans it gives them a raise and it gives them a system within which extra legal system within which they can continue the. detention arbitrary detention torture drone attacks all the of the apostle that we've seen over the past eleven years from the american administration so the united states which has signed torture conventions has signed the geneva conventions but is trying to work outside of them by calling torture enhanced

interrogation and by calling their prisoners of war enemy combatants is trying to create a completely new structure which in some part it has succeeded in doing over the past eleven years simply because almost the rest of the world the so-called international community is quite happy to play along but that doesn't mean that the united states or anybody else is above the law it's not just washington's problem is the problem of the international community is the problem of the countries that facilitated the journeys and the travel of these men to guantanamo bay in the first place where everybody was in afghanistan or pakistan or fighting the americans at all the united states doesn't seem to have a very credible position but unfortunately it's not just united states that has failed on this issue it's the whole international community through their collusion in continuing to keep going to open. strong words there from a lot of based activist money are one of those campaigning to close guantanamo and . beyond borders and beyond the courts eleven years on guantanamo remains open for

business r.t. looks at the interrogation nerve center of america's war on terror. the u.k.'s coalition government faces and new rift over a u.s. diplomat warning britain against leaving the the prime minister trying to glance over the situation as he wants to renegotiate london's relations with brussels meanwhile his deputy claims americans warning is spot on as the u.k. is valuable to the u.s. because of its position in europe artie's laura smith has the details we've always known that the u.s. prefers that the u.k. has a close relationship with the e.u. because when it wants something done it's britain that it calls this kind of direct challenge to the government over europe to the involving itself in internal bush's affairs is something a little bit new the u.s. is warned of the dangers of holding a referendum on europe for the u.k. and it has called for full out of the coalition government although that's no so

difficult thing to do these days david cameron the prime minister has played it out saying it's just an opinion but kleck nick clegg his deputy has said that it is a big issue that the u.k. is valuable to the us precisely because it has a close relationship with the european union and but of course his party does stand against anything that distances pressin from the e.u. now i felt that the main issue for people here given that there's an increasing lack of support for britain's membership of the european union would probably be just that the us sticking it already so i went out to our concerns and i can understand because they were saying you look very similar values. we represent them in the european union. they're clearly a major problem. we take notice but equally i don't think fully understand. the implications for britain i don't think it is because i mean we are

a different kind of teaching them so you know i think we should make that decision and those people in the streets they're seeing it as a question of sovereignty now with me as gerrard batton he's a member of the european poll. that we've always known haven't we the u.s. prefers that the u.k. has a close relationship with the union so what difference does it make now that they've said it out loud i think the difference here is that they're actually. british politics i think there's a difference between you can understand a country having a view about other countries' foreign policy and stating that but i think this is a bit different this is a direct attempt to interfere in british domestic policies and they're trying to frighten the british people by saying you know we'd lose influence and. special relationship and all the rest of it if we continue along this road of actually asking me what's happened to our national sovereignty it's gone and we'd like it back and the polite thing applied thing i would say guy is president obama should be part. and become a big plan for referendum we're expecting this announcement within the next few

weeks you'll be pleased about that what difference does this really make i think you'd have to be very naive to think if david cameron is sincere about this he's talked about a referendum but this whole thing about renegotiation is a nonsense you cannot renegotiate the terms of membership terms of membership decided by treaty they have to be done by unanimous agreement of all twenty seven member states and twenty eight soon when croatia joint you cannot renegotiate on a piecemeal basis and nobody in the european you other countries going to renegotiate the terms or allow us to because we are one of the biggest paymasters to the so the us is worried about nothing i think the americans should mind their own business. you know what we don't tell them how to about their national sovereignty they shouldn't tell us which is the most precious thing we've got is the right to determine our own democratic affairs thank you very much at starbucks and talking to me about ministration expressing his opinion on the u.k. so i'm sure the e.u. . i mean a u.

turn at the international monetary fund its chief economist has admitted the organization has failed to predict how the. working man would hit europe. charts says the i.m.f. has severely underestimated the effects of increased unemployment would take literally to weak economies like greece the study says that every dollar that governments cut reduced economic output by one point fifty dollars wealth manager mark if you travel he says the admission won't help those who are paying for their government's mistakes. the reality is of course the most waste western government which includes most of the southern european countries the level of state involvement in the economy has grown substantially over the last few years and what happens is of course that any significant very commission will have a massive impact on the economy being as dense accumulation that's the same in the

us and most of most of your memory is continuing the massive accumulation of of sovereign debt. has to be tight for some point this was a plan. through the european central bank through the germans and then the european community has imposed these these massive austerity measures on the southern european peripheral countries of course it's not the people's follow the government. it's not the people's fault. the banking system has failed. and needed to be back but it's the people who have to deal with the dead through higher taxation and. enjoy all these these massive measures. coming up later in the program here on

r.t. . more u.k. parents are forced to go hungry to feed their children while charity is the only hope for those on the breadline this story is just to have for you stay with us for that and also voicing discontent in the digital age hacker group anonymous wants washington to accept cyber attacks as a legitimate form of protest office more coming to you later in the program. u.s. and middle east aspirants are saying serious conflict is putting the country's iranian stockpiles at risk every pore it in the british financial times says syria has up to fifty tons of enriched uranium enough to grade five nuclear bombs syria was thought to be close to completing our reactor in the east of the country with help from north korea when the facility was reportedly destroyed by israeli jets five years ago there are now concerns in the west that iran serious close ally in the

region might be trying to sue the stockpile for its own nuclear program or also fear a serious chemical weapons could fall into the wrong hands meanwhile the u.k. says it could start arming the rebels and it's to ask the e.u. to lift an arms embargo but always commentator and blogger carl shower oh believes ratio is just another red herring to go with you know there's a carnival sequence to change alarmists in our use that are being produced concerning chemical weapons nuclear or any m so if the syrian regime there's a process of learning for. western powers reminds you to get i think they're finding all these different reasons for them to step in and take control and will start to treat a country should. i do want to start is that said no that is straight that you don't mind get this you're a humanitarian and inside conducting it now how does this show the us and how do you think it's another in this long list of. most of the reasons for going back to

our western states to intervene and it seems that there's a lot of preparation for great thanks for stepping and should i start for i'm taking control of this situation including the u.k. when the u.k. government decided to plan for that possibility so you see that there are mountains both faiers engaged and out process which is kind of really shocking the fate of syria could be decided outside this blatantly. thousands of supporters of venezuelan president hugo chavez rally outside the presidential palace on the day when he should have been sworn in for a new six year term chavez's inauguration has been postponed indefinitely in a conversational supreme court ruling as he recovers from cancer surgery in cuba geopolitical analyst eric dries her believes the child as government could face a threat from abroad in the absence of its charismatic leader. of the opposition despite all of their posturing and despite the fact that the private corporate

media inside of venezuela and around the world is very much squarely behind them and u.s. imperialism they lack a very real base of support on the ground they have some support but as we saw in the results of the recent elections that opposition is still very much in the minority now in terms of an international destabilization using this opposition this is very much a very real possibility of course we've seen much of the destabilization campaign emanating out of the u.s. embassy out of the institutions that's why we saw us and other international organizations that are controlled by the state department booted out of that country or at the very least minimized so this is a standard tactic that is very much part of the playbook of twenty first century imperialism of the united states but again the danger here is that without chavez and without the power of his personality that they'll be able to attack those institutions inside the country the question will be how strong are the ball of

aryan institutions and how willing is that base of support to come out into the streets in support of the revolution and against what could only be called counter-revolutionaries of the opposition representing wall street in washington. how the gun control debate is locked and loaded and the u.s. where new survey shows americans have the lowest life expectancy of wealthy nations due to the huge number of firearms there are and this is on our website. also online siberia calls a state of emergency. pap's of the rewards for our settlements and the hunger for life stop this and many other stories on our website. now more and more people in the u.k. are forced to rely on charity food banks to get their daily meal thousands of households are left with a choice between keeping warm or putting food on their tables with parents skipping meals to feed their children are just boy boy girl has the details. for this struggling mother it's

a hand to mouth existence with the pressure of two hungry mouths to feed gemma receives has small shop assistant wage and to state benefits every choose day someone will wake up on a farm there and i will if you have far found a market and i think you are one hundred five pound not much when you're living on the breadline one in five mothers in britain just like gemma regularly skip meals just to feed their children you want to make the fish and you hear it all the time when tb how there's five a day and fresh me but you know sometimes you just can't do it and you have to buy them seventy seven p. basic courses part because that's all you can afford for the single mother managing a tiny budget is turning into a puzzle that's harder and harder to solve we are seeing a lot more families telling us that they have to make this difficult choice between things like eating and heating putting food on the table or paying the bills part of this is driven by problems in benefit administration sanctions being applied

often and appropriately that leaves people having to go to food banks food banks such as this one run by the trussell trust that charity first started working with abandoned children involved area but they switched over to the u.k. when they discovered what they call hidden hunger in britain three banks open every week in the u.k. now and in unexpected areas like kensington and chelsea where houses like these distribute store cupboard. staples and tinned food to families that are in need of emergency provisions charity say that some parents are so desperate to feed their children that they consider stealing has become such a reality that police have been known to take hungry shoplifters to food banks instead of arresting them a lot of people that come to the banks have stories which are really heartbreaking and we've had people coming to food banks who've been forced to choose between eating and feeding their children and that's something we see very regularly just

like gemma's over half of britain's impoverished children have parents that are in work and the issue of putting food on the table eats up their lives on come to on monday. monday evening waiting to take the violence to others and it's one of exhibit there is. it kind of controls you a little bit kind of takes over your lives because when you're going week to week to week all about you think you are going to get this money and you say and i'm not i'll do a list this is what we paid out this quarter played out like that leaves me that much for shopping and it takes over your thinking for most of the week and with the cost of basic necessities including food rising all the time gemma lives on a diet of daily struggle and worry about the future pali boyko r t london. afghan leader hamid karzai is set for crucial talks with president obama in washington where he's set to outline the u.s. role in afghanistan i karzai has already met the fans secretary leon panetta and

state secretary hillary clinton the focus is on the number of american troops set to remain in afghanistan after of the majority full out in twenty fourteen and you know washington hasn't finalized this decision and doesn't rule out a complete withdrawal that scenario is not welcomed by the afghan government whose position is increasingly fragile and strengthening taliban insurgency hillary mann leverett who's worked extensively with u.s. diplomats in the middle east and asia believes president karzai is no win situation . i think these talks are for the president and his national security principals to let afghanistan's president karzai down as softly as they can to let him know that unfortunately they're not going to make good on their promise to completely train. the afghan military and police before u.s. troops leave i think this this visit is about trying to let cars i know as nicely

as they can that they're not going to make good on their promise to continue to defend afghanistan and train up afghanistan's military and i think part of it is that president obama. after he agreed to surge the troops into afghanistan i think pretty quickly realized if he didn't realize even before the surge that there is no military solution for the united states in afghanistan and so i think in part the initial surge of troops by the president in two thousand and nine was to give the united states some political cover to eventually do this troop withdrawal to show that we were withdrawing from a position of strength now i don't think it's turned out the way the president probably wanted it to because the taliban is so clearly on the office but the idea that the president did his best he tried to send more troops it didn't work he gave it as we say in the united states the old college try and it just didn't work i think for an american population that is both battered financially and very tired

of endless wars and occupations this is something that will basically go go forward without a hitch in terms of american public opinion. russia's adoption deal with the u.s. will be valid until two thousand and fourteen and the mountain came from the kremlin ellen thursday over a week since a law banning u.s. citizens from adopting russian children came into force it means the families who applied to adopt before the bill was in place are free to continue the process it option bad as a response to washington's but needs to act and began russian officials allegedly involved in human rights violations russian lawmakers say it's targeting the lack of legal action from the u.s. to numerous deaths and abuse of russian children at the hands of their american adoptive parents the law is named after who was less than two years old when he died after being left in a locked car for nine hours on a hard day. watching r.t.

live from moscow now let's take a look at some other stories from around the world wave of bali pakistan has left at least one hundred fifteen people dead and scores one to eighty one word killed in a twin explosion at a bill a billiard hall in a ball of. muslims dominated area well at least twenty one people died in the northwestern city of mingora a blast struck crowds gathering for a speech by religious leader there were eleven more deaths at a marketplace in the east of the country pakistan has seen similar attacks in recent months i mean to rise in the midst insurgency so tarion violence. the u.n. has called for a swift deployment of an international force in mali after militants claimed significant advances in the country's central region france will also be considering a request for help from mali's president today the security council earlier approved the plan to the poit three thousand african troops there but they were not

expected to arrive until september there are fears that the region could become a stronghold for al qaida linked militants some european leaders are concerned that the region may also be used as a springboard for attempts on the continent. two people have been wounded at a california high school after a student turned a weapon on his classmate a teacher managed to persuade the teenager to put down his gun avoiding possible for violence people who know the students say he was a loner and often teased by classmates because of his height well shooting comes less than a month after a gunman killed twenty elementary school children in connecticut fueling a nationwide debate on u.s. gun law. hacker group anonymous posted a petition on the white house website seeking to make distributed denial of service attacks a legal form of protest the organization claims that slowing or shutting down a website is not hacking and should be considered the equivalent of

a real life street to cat and a national human rights lawyer stanley cohen says such action should fall under first mammon protection. when barack obama gets on the television and begs his followers and when politicians implore their followers to get on the switchboards to shut him down to send a message to support a position it's considered free speech the da says essentially nothing different than what obama is doing what politicians are doing and what corporations are doing through lobbying firms when you're standing in front of the building it's legal picketing when you break the window it's now a crime so if you infected computer you can charge someone not with some sort of conspiracy but with a criminal mischief offense we have traditional laws which are designed when people cross the line it's that we with all first amendment activities and it should be no different here we're talking about classic first amendment free speech activities keep in mind in this day and age corporations are considered to be persons for

purposes of free speech their money is recognized as free speech how much more true is it wouldn't people want to express through a system designed by the government in country right now their opposition to a policy by action without criminal mischief without damage without injury and without theft i think it's less likely at this show that president obama will recognize that because he has a history of trying to repress free speech he's he's or he's afraid of the light of day i think it's more likely that down the road some of the courts may the man may look at some of these actions and find that there's first amendment protection and free speech implicated that's not to say that an effort to change the president's mind shouldn't be undertaken again we're not talking about hacking we're not talking about theft we're not talking about injuring property in any sense of the word. well we're back with more news in about half an hour here on r.t. but now it's our regular financial checkup cavalcanti the warrantless surveillance .

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