i've done the close guantanamo and i will follow through on. a pledge that remains unfulfilled america's notorious detention camp has been open for eleven years with a little outcry in the u.s. . syria's uranium stockpiles at risk the west is concerned were they could end up amid the conflict while critics say it's just another excuse for military intervention. and more u.k. parents are forced to go hungry to feed their children while charity is the only hope for those on the breadline.

coming to live from moscow i'm marina joshing welcome to the program and the jury is here as attention facility at guantanamo bay in cuba marks its eleventh anniversary despite president obama's forty year old promise to shut the camp while human rights groups are calling for freedom for those clearer for release and for a fair trial for others polls show the majority of americans have moved on and now reports public opinion in the u.s. relies more on fiction than fact. president obama's call to look forward not backward has resulted in attempts to sweep the past under the rug including some of his own promises i'm going to close guantanamo and i will follow through on that colonel morris davis was a chief prosecutor at guantanamo and to george w. bush he later became a vocal critic of the practices there and strongly supported president obama's

pledge to shut down the prison he says the perception of guantanamo in the u.s. has come a long way since two thousand and eight when he was a burning and highly controversial issue with a nation demanding action he gets a free pass on i mean the public largely could care less the mainstream media now here in the us. you know is more interested in car dash and then they are and what happens at guantanamo. so who's going to challenge it if we're looking for the biggest threat to america right now she's right there her name is kim carr daschle and. america has moved on and so has its perception of torture polls by the american red cross show the majority of americans now find torture acceptable sixty percent of young people agree whereas four years ago torture was largely condemned in the us. hollywood has arguably contributed to that evolution of public opinion

in the movie zero dark thirty day or trade the information that led to the capture and killing of osama bin laden was obtained through enhanced interrogation techniques or torture and in fact that is simply not true actual information was obtained through report based interrogation techniques the government classified everything related to its torture practices which allows politicians pundits and filmmakers the freedom to perpetuate all kinds of myths although a slew of washington insiders including the senate intelligence committee point out how torture has proved to be ineffective but in america it's often fiction not facts that make history this is more important than reality this is the movies where americans learn their history and today the history in the making is the drone strikes this amounts to the administration executing people without due process often in absolute secrecy in foreign lands with

a remote control but will obama's drones generate as much of a backlash as one tunnel did for george w. bush and we've now got have a generation that only knows the post nine eleven hero. where things like guantanamo and the warrantless wiretapping that's all they've ever known for decades now and i think it has become an accepted part of life unfortunately judging by how the guantanamo controversy evolved here is what may transpire with regard to drone the urgency of the issue will subside in the u.s. because there will be no american troops dying there will be no movement. there may even be a movie or two touting the technological capabilities of the drone and once the controversy dies down it will become the new normal and america will move on in washington i'm going to stick. to for one ton of no detainees have condemned the

oscar nominated film zero dark thirty for justifying torture they called it an attempt to rehabilitate those guilty of human rights abuse activist ayesha money our who's been campaigning for the closure of the guantanamo camp says the u.s. is violating international law with the world community turning a blind eye. after eleven years has got immense symbolic power and all the things that represents to human rights campaigners people who believe in truth justice and the rule of law it represents injustice before the americans it gives them a raise and it gives them a system within which extra legal system within which they can continue their. detention arbitrary detention torture drone attacks all the other possible that we've seen over the past eleven years from the american administration so the united states which has signed torture conventions has signed the geneva conventions but is trying to work outside of them by calling torture enhanced

interrogation and by calling their prisoners of war enemy combatants is trying to create a completely new structure which in some part it has succeeded in doing over the past eleven years simply because almost the rest of the world the so-called international community is quite happy to play along but that doesn't mean that the united states or anybody else is above the law it's not just washington's problem it's a problem of the international community is the problem of the countries that facilitated the journeys and the travel of these men to guantanamo bay in the first place when everybody was in afghanistan or pakistan or fighting the americans at all the united states doesn't seem to have a very credible position but unfortunately it's not just united states that has failed on this issue it's the whole international community through their collusion inching to keep guantanamo bay open strong words from london based activist ayesha are one of those campaigning to close guantanamo. you're on the border and beyond the courts eleven years on guantanamo remains open for business

party looks at the interrogation nerve center of america's war on terror. u.s. and middle east experts are saying serious conflict is putting the country rame stockpiles at risk a report in the british financial times says syria has up to fifty tons of enriched uranium enough to create five nuclear bombs syria was thought to be close to complaining a reactor in the east of the country with help from north korea when the facility was reportedly destroyed by israeli jets five years ago and are now concerns in the west that iran serious closest ally in the region might be trying to seize the stockpile for its own nuclear program there are also fears syria's chemical weapons could fall into the wrong hands meanwhile the u.k. says it could start arming the rebels and has to ask to lift an arms embargo middle east commentator and walk a call shero believes the uranium issue is just another red herring. now there's

kind of a sequence a chain or it's a large mists in our use that are being produced concerning chemical weapons and nuclear granular so if the syrian regime there's a process of learning for that they are stressed out as western powers very miserly get i think they're buying up all these different reasons for them to step in and take control of the starting tree of the country it shouldn't happen i want to start is that said no they're afraid that iran might get this year in humanitarian you know i mean five day conducting it now how much should i spend to have it so i think it's another in this long list of possible reasons for good us to our western states to intervene and it seems that there's a lot of preparation for pretext for stepping in truth i thought for taking control of this situation including the u.k. when the u.k. government decided to run for that possibility so you see that there are multiple failures engaged in that process which is kind of

a really shocking the fate of syria could be decided outside this blatantly. more and more people in the who care for syria rely on charity food banks to get their daily meals thousands of households are left with choice between keeping warm or putting food on their tables with parents skipping meals to feed their children are just boy boy girl has the details. for this struggling mother it's a hand to mouth existence with the pressure of two hungry mouths to feed gemma receives has small shop assistant wage and to state benefits every choose day someone or wake up on a farm there and i will if you have far found in my class and i think you are one hundred five pound not much when you're living on the breadline one in five mothers in britain just like gemma regularly skip meals just to feed their children you want to make. you hear it all the time one to be how they should be in a five a day in fresh may but you know sometimes you just can't do it and you have to buy

them seventy seven p. basic classes part because that's all you can afford for the single mother managing a tiny budget is turning into a puzzle that harder and harder to solve we are seeing a lot more families turning us that they have to make these difficult choice between things like eating and heating putting food on the table or paying the bills part of this is driven by problems in benefit administration sanctions being applied often in appropriately that leave people having to go to food banks food banks such as this one run by the trussell trust that charity first started working with abandoned children involved area but they switched over to the u.k. when they discovered what they call hidden hunger in britain three fruit banks open every week in the u.k. now and then unexpected areas like tending to the chelsea warehouses like these distribute store cupboard staples and tinned food to families that are in need of

emergency provisions in fact over two hundred thousand people had to turn to food banks last year and. to get bed that's double the amount of the year before so if the sad dynamic persists food banks like these are going to have to get a whole lot bigger in order to feed britain's struggling families charities say that some parents are so desperate to feed their children that they consider stealing has become such a reality that police have been known to take hungry shoplifters to food banks instead of arresting them a lot of people that come to the banks have stories which are really heartbreaking and we've had people coming to food banks who've been forced to choose between eating and feeding their children and that's something we see very regularly just like gemma's over half of britain's impoverished children have parents that are in work and the issue of putting food on the table eats up their lives on come from monday. on a monday evening waiting to take the balance to others and it's one of exhibit

there is. it kind of controls you a little bit kind of takes over your lives because when you're going through week to week all about you think well i'm going this money and you say and i'm not i'll do a list this is what we paid out this call be paid out like that leaves me that much for shopping and it takes over your your thinking for most of the week and with the cost of basic necessities including food rising all the time gemma lives on a diet of daily struggle and worry about the future bali boyko r t london. coming up later in the program here in our tivo voicing discontent and the digital age hacker group anonymous wants washington to accept cyber attacks as a legitimate form of protest. and a fresh coalition split in the u.k. after a u.s. diplomat said britain should leave the e.u. while prime minister david cameron come play it's a referendum on staying in the union all that and more after the short break.

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a new most sophisticated robot which on fortunately doesn't give a darn about anything mission to teach music creation why it should care about humans and we think this is why you should care what you're only on the. welcome back you're watching are going to live from moscow thousands of supporters of venezuelan president hugo chavez rallied outside the presidential palace on the day. when he should have been sworn in for a new six year term job as has been postponed indefinitely in a controversial supreme court ruling as he recovers from cancer surgery in cuba geopolitical analyst erin drives her believes the chavez government could face a threat from abroad in the absence of a charismatic leader. the opposition despite all of their posturing and despite the

fact that the private corporate media inside of venezuela and around the world is very much squarely behind them and u.s. imperialism they lack a very real base of support on the ground they have some support but as we saw in the results of the recent elections that opposition is still very much in the minority now in terms of an international destabilization using this opposition this is very much a very real possibility of course we've seen much of the destabilization campaign emanating out of the u.s. embassy out of the institutions that's why we saw u.s. a id and other international organizations that are controlled by the state department booted out of that country or at the very least minimized so this is a standard tactic that is very much part of the playbook of twenty first century imperialism of the united states but again the danger here is that without chavez and without the power of his personality that they'll be able to attack those institutions inside the country the question will be how strong are the ball of

aryan institutions and how willing is that base of support to come out into the streets in support of the revolution and against what could only be called counter-revolutionaries of the opposition representing wall street and washington. hacker group anonymous have posted a petition on the white house website seeking to make distributed denial of service attacks a legal form of protest the organization claims that slowing or shutting down a website is not hacking and should be considered the equivalent of a real life street picket at a national human rights lawyer stanley cohen says such action should fall under first the man then protection. when barack obama gets on the television and begs his followers and when politicians implore their followers to get on the switchboard to shut him down to send a message to support a position it's considered free speech the da says essentially nothing different than what obama is doing what politicians are doing and what corporations are doing

through lobbying firms we have traditional laws which are designed when people cross the line it's that we with all first amendment activities and it should be no different here i think it's less likely at this show that president obama will recognize that because he has a history of trying to repress free speech he's he's or he's afraid of the light of day i think it's more likely that down the road some of the courts may the man may look at some of these actions and find that there's first amendment protection and free speech implicated that's not to say that an effort to change the president's mind shouldn't be undertaken again we're not talking about hacking we're not talking about theft we're not talking about injuring property in any sense of the word. the gun control debate is locked and loaded in the u.s. where a new survey shows america has the lowest life because you have wealthy nations due to the huge number of firearms owners there more of this on our website. and also online siberia calls

a state of emergency as packs of hungry wolves prowl settlements in the hunt for livestock this and many other stories on our website r.t. dot com. you case coalition government faces a new rift over a u.s. diplomat warning britain against leaving the e.u. the prime minister tried to glance over the situation as he wants to renegotiate london's relations with brussels meanwhile his deputy claims americans warning is spot on as the u.k. is valuable to the u.s. because of its position in europe laura smith has the details we've always known that the u.s. prefers the u.k. has a close relationship with the e.u. because when it wants something done it's britain that it calls this kind of direct challenge to the government over europe to involving itself in internal bush's affairs is something a little bit new the u.s. is warned of the dangers of holding a referendum on europe for the u.k. and it has called for full out of the coalition government although that's no so difficult thing to do these days david cameron the prime minister has played it out

saying it's just an opinion but nick clegg his deputy has said that it is a big issue that the u.k. is valuable to the u.s. u.s. precisely because it has a close relationship with the european union but of course his party does stands against anything that distances person from the now i felt that the main issue for people here given that there's an increasing lack of support for britain's membership of the european union would probably be just that the u.s. sticking its already so i went out to us that they have concerns and i can understand because they were saying they feel that we have similar values. therefore we represent them and the european union go. clearly. we take notice but equally i don't. fully understand. the implications for britain i don't think it is because i mean we're

a different country to them so you know i think we should make that decision and those people in the streets they're seeing it as a question of sovereignty now with me i said gerald batten he's a member of the european parliament general we've always known haven't we the u.s. prefers that the u.k. . but what difference does it make now that they've said i think the difference here is that they're actually. you know i think there's a. lot . and they become a big plans for a referendum or expecting this announcement within the next few weeks you'll be

pleased about that what difference does this really may i think you'd have to be very naive to think if david cameron is sincere about this he's talked about a referendum but this whole thing about renegotiation is a nonsense you cannot renegotiate the terms of membership terms of membership decided by treaty they have to be done by unanimous agreement. about their national sovereignty i shouldn't tell us which is the most precious thing we've got is the right to determine our own democratic affairs thank you very much at starbucks and talking to me about ministration expressing his opinion on the e.u. now it is your turn now the international monetary fund its chief economist has

admitted the organization has failed to predict how the stereo measures it's recommended would hit europe. as the map has severely underestimated the effects of increased unemployment particularly to weak economies like greece the study says that every dollar of the government's cards reduced economic output by one point fifty dollars wealth manager marco the admission won't help those who are paying for their government's mistakes. the reality is of course the inmost waste western governments which includes most of the southern european countries the state involvement in the economy has grown substantially over the last few years and what happens is of course that any significant austerity measures will have a massive impact on the on the economy being as debt accumulation that's the same in the us and most of most of europe mary is continuing massive

accumulation of sovereign debt. for some point this was a plan through the r.m.f. through the european central bank germans and the european community has imposed these these massive austerity measures on the southern european peripheral countries of course it's not the people's follow the government has overspent it's not the people's fault. the banking system has failed and needed to be bad but it's the people who have to deal with the dead through higher taxation and. to enjoy all these these massive measures. now let's take a look at some other stories from around the world. three days of mourning have

been declared in pakistan after a wave of bombings left at least one hundred fifty people dead and scores wounded eighty one were killed in a twin explosion at a billiard hall in the. muslim dominated area while at least twenty one people died in the northwestern city of mingora where a blast struck crowds gathering for a speech by a religious leader there were eleven more deaths at a marketplace in the east of the country pakistan has seen similar attacks in recent months of it a rise an islamist insurgency and sectarian violence. the un has called for swift deployment of an international force in mali after militants claim significant advances in the country's central region france will also be considering a request for help from mali's president today the security council earlier approved a plan to deploy three thousand african troops there but they were not expected to arrive until september there are fears that the region to become a stronghold for al qaida linked militants some european leaders are concerned the

region may also be used as a springboard for attacks on the continent. few people have been wounded at a california high school after a student turned a weapon on his classmates a teacher managed to persuade the teenager to put down his gun avoiding possible further violence people who know the students say he was a loner and often teased by classmates because of his height the shooting comes less than a month after a gunman killed twenty elementary school children in connecticut fueling a nationwide debate on u.s. gun law. french police are looking for the killers of three female kurdish independence activists who were shot in the head in paris on thursday the motive for the murders which took the life of the p.k. k. particles fowler is not yet clear angra has recently started disarmament talks with the jailed pete if you need or after twenty five year conflict between the

organization and the government the murders sparked mass rallies in turkey were some say that when a work killed by a kurd fashion opposed to the talks there's really assess nations were carried out by the government to do rail and go shoot. afghan leader hamid karzai is in washington to thrash out america's role in afghanistan during talks with president obama mr karzai has already made the fan secretary leon panetta and secretary of state hillary clinton the focus of the one to one meeting is expected to be on the number of american troops that will remain in afghanistan after the majority fall out in twenty fourteen and their possible role washington hasn't finalized its decision yet but doesn't rule out a complete withdrawal that's an area that is not welcome kwai the afghan government whose position is increasingly fragile that a strengthening taliban insurgency hillary mann leverett who's worked extensively with u.s. diplomats in the middle east of asia believes president karzai is

a no win situation. i think these talks are for the president and his national security principals to let afghanistan's president karzai down as softly as they can to let him know that unfortunately they're not going to make good on their promise to completely train. the afghan military and police before u.s. troops leave i think this this visit is about trying to let cars i know as nicely as they can that they're not going to make good on their promise to continue to defend afghanistan and train up afghanistan's military and i think part of it is that president obama. after he agreed to surge the troops into afghanistan i think pretty quickly realized if he didn't realize even before the surge that there is no military solution for the united states in afghanistan and so i think in part the initial surge of troops by the president in two thousand and nine was to give the united states some political cover to eventually do this troop withdrawal to show

that we were withdrawing from a position of strength now i don't think it's turned out the way the president probably wanted it to because the taliban is so clearly on the office but the idea that the president did his best he tried to send more troops it didn't work he gave it as we say in the united states the old college try and it just didn't work i think for an american population that is both battered financially and very tired of endless wars and occupations this is something that will basically go go forward without a hitch in terms of american public opinion. well after a short break peter live on his power of gas to get to grips with some pressing issues and crosstown don't miss that and stay with us.

because of recent events guns have a good again become a big issue all over the usa both sides are throwing their talking point ammunition back and forth and we hear a lot of conflicting stories well the last really got tough on guns and crime went down but then again others say in the u.k. they got rid of all their gods and all hell broke loose i've heard stories that you are way more likely to be killed by a deer in your headlights than get taken out by a maniac with a tech nine but then again i've heard that soon deaths from guns will exceed even deaths from car accidents japan is safe because it has no guns but switzerland is even safer because automatic weapons are all over the place the information is all very contradictory but ultimately it doesn't matter what facts and reports you throw at the other side the gun question is a philosophical one some people would rather at least feel like they have their fate in their own hands even.