our democrats want all of them and i will follow through on a pledge that remains unfulfilled america's notorious detention camp has been open for you leavened yes with a little outcry in the us. there is your rainy and stockpile that risk the west is concerned where they could end up amid the conflict critics say it's just another excuse for military intervention. and more u.k. parents are forced to go hungry to feed their children while charity is the only hope for those on the breadline.

it's three pm here in moscow you live with us on our team with me tom would say it's good to have you with us the notorious u.s. detention facility at guantanamo bay in cuba marks its eleventh anniversary despite president obama's four year old promise to shut the camp while human rights groups are calling for freedom for those cleared for release and for fair trial for others polls show the majority of americans have moved on and as archie's gannett she can reports public opinion in the u.s. relies more on fiction than fact. president obama's call to look forward not backward has resulted in attempts to sweep the past under the rug including some of his own promises earlier i intend to close guantanamo and i will follow through on that colonel morris davis was a chief prosecutor at guantanamo under george w. bush and he later became a vocal critic of the practices there and strongly supported president obama's

pledge to shut down the prison he says the perception of guantanamo in the u.s. has come a long way since two thousand and eight when he was a burning and highly controversial issue with the nation demanding action he gets a free pass on i mean the public largely could care less the mainstream media now here in the us. you know is more interested in car dash and then they are and what happens at guantanamo. so who's going to challenge it if we're looking for the biggest threat to america right now she's right there her name is kim carr does she in. america has moved on and so has its perception of torture holes by the american red cross so the majority of americans now find torture acceptable sixty percent of young people agree whereas four years ago torture was largely condemned in the us. hollywood has arguably contributed to that evolution of public opinion in the movie

zero dark thirty day or trade the information that led to the capture and killing of osama bin laden was obtained through enhanced interrogation techniques or torture and in fact that is simply not true actual information was obtained through a report based interrogation techniques the government classified everything related to its torture practices which allows politicians pundits and filmmakers the freedom to perpetuate all kinds of myths although a slew of washington insiders including the senate intelligence committee point out how torture has proved to be enough. active but in america it's often fiction not facts that make history this is more important than reality this is the movies where americans learn their history and today the history in the making is the drone strikes this amounts to the administration executing people without due process often in absolute secrecy in foreign lands with

a remote control but will obama's drones generate as much of a backlash as guantanamo did for george w. bush that we've now got have a generation that only knows the post nine eleven era. where things like guantanamo and the warrantless wiretapping that's all they've ever known for decades now and i think it's just become an accepted part of life unfortunately judging by how the guantanamo controversy evolved here's what may transpire with regard to grow the urgency of the issue will subside in the u.s. because there will be no american for dying there will be no strong movement. there may even be a movie or two outings that have no logical case that withdraw and once the controversy dies down it will become the new normal and america will move on in washington i'm going to stick. our t.

has spoken to some of guantanamo prisoners recalling their ordeal they say more attention has to be drawn to the prison still operating despite the condemnation. i don't know why i was released and others are not ok i mean like specially when you know that people have are not involved in anything and want to know more people who have been cleared ok at the time i don't know what i was really so i don't know if i was cleared or not really i don't remember but for today there are people who think they're not out of guantanamo and i think but but feel uncomfortable and you feel that's guilt lingering in yourself that while they're still in the memory of one thousand of course they're very clear because of what happened. the mistreatment doesn't go away easily i think it's. it's kind of i think in those create. an deep wound that will last a long years the memories are very clear and when we talk about. these things do

come back the people might have been forgotten in the meantime still exists. you know it's very difficult to get the media interested into their story when speaking just for some existing if you like is important because every individual that is locked up in one town can't the family can't see the messages that come from a sense to the world is a very disturbing and very serious message that has to be has to be. has to be like you know supposed unspoken against. former guantanamo detainees are they speaking to our team let's not talk to a london based activist of l. brown campaigning foregone tunnel closure. do you feel your campaign has enough support to do you think there's enough international attention to the problem. unfortunately no i think the trouble is that most people think guantanamo is closed all they believe the rhetoric there are all the worst of the worst when

in fat they're not in fat of the hundred sixty six still there are eighty six have been cleared for release as way far back as two thousand and seven and yet they are still there or now obama recently signed the national defense ag the polling the transfer restrictions on guantanamo detainees for twenty thirteen which for now means that the can can be close do you think obama will advocate his promise to shut it no i don't. i do not believe that he had any intention of doing that. i mean what he has been doing because in the drone strikes i think makes it makes him worse now a number of juveniles have been prisoners of the guantanamo camp among them marketed captured and accused of war crimes at the age of fifteen shouldn't cases

involving children be dealt with separately. yes they should there's u.n. treaties regarding the protocol of children during the armed conflict where any child under the age of eighteen should be treated as a victim of war and not as a war criminal which is what. was treated as he was tortured all the children over twenty two children in guantanamo all of them were tortured about half a dozen were finally put into a small camp where they were given slightly better treatment but the majority of the children in guantanamo were treated as adults and tortured let's talk about those alleged link to to terrorise groups good they said they could be posing a threat to u.s. national security amid the so-called war on terror is america not justified in arresting these people and dealing with the enemy as they see fit no

a person is innocent until proven guilty they should have a right to a fair trial and quickly don't i mean it is just a bomb all the people are put there indefinitely without any chance of a trial and the trials are carried out in guantanamo are not recognized by anybody i say anybody except for the military can consist of people there and unfortunately canada canada who is where. i had a kind from. reckon recognizes that court and considers it a fair trial court and it isn't if the eleventh anniversary says went on i'm or have been able to what needs to be done to make any progress in closing it in your opinion i believe that because of the torture and the long term of imprisonment unfairly there they should be released they should be released to a country or countries where they will not be harmed and they should be allowed to

get on with their lives. thank you very much activists speaking to us thank you. for your borders and beyond the courts eleven years on the guantanamo remains open for business marty looks at the interrogation nerve center of america's war on terror. u.s. and middle east experts are saying serious conflict is putting the country's uranium stockpiles at risk a report in the british financial times us says syria has up to fifty tons of an enriching uranium enough to create five nuclear bombs serialist or to be close to completing a reactor in the east of the country with help from north korea when the facility was reportedly destroyed by israeli jets five years ago there are now concerns in the west that iran syria's closest ally in the region mightn't trying to seize the stockpile photo nuclear program there also korea is

a serious how mccoll weapons could fall into the wrong hands meanwhile the u.k. says they could start offering the rebel the m is off the e.u. to live to an arms embargo middle east commentator and blogger call cheryl anything rainy i'm issue is just another red herring. now there's kind of a sequence a chain of alarmists in our use that are being produced concerning chemical weapons and nuclear or any i'm sort of the syrian regime there's a process of learning for that they are stressed out as western powers very miserly get i think they're buying up all these different reasons for them to step in and take control of start to treat a country it shouldn't happen i do want to start is that start now they're afraid that iran might get this year in humanitarian you know and in fact be conducting it now how should i somehow get so i think it's another in this long list of possible reasons for good us to our western states to intervene and it seems that there's

a lot of preparation for pretext for stepping in truth i cited for and taking control of the situation including the u.k. when the u.k. government decided to run for that possibility so you see that there are multiple failures engaged in that process which is kind of a really shocking the fate of syria could be decided outside this blatantly. coming up later in the program breaking the ice russian researches collect first eyes samples from a subglacial lake in antarctica previously sealed off for millions yet as. voicing discontent in the digital age group anonymous ones washington to accept cyber attacks as a legitimate form of protest. wealthy

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are forced to rely on charity food banks to get their daily meal thousands of households are left with choices between keeping warm or putting food on their tables with parents or skipping meals to feed their children artie's poorly boy call has the details. for this struggling mother it's a hand to mouth existence with the pressure of two hungry mouths to feed gemma receives her small shop assistant wage and her state benefits every choose day some other way but when i found out i will if you have far found in my class and i think you are one hundred five pound not much when you're living on the breadline one in five mothers in britain just like gemma regularly skip meals just to feed their children you want to make nutritional meals for your kids you hear it all the time when to be how to be in the five a day in fresh may but you know sometimes you just can't do it and you have to buy them seventy seven p. basic courses part because that's all you can afford for the single mother managing

a tiny budget is turning into a puzzle that's harder and harder to solve we are seeing a lot more families telling us that they have to make this difficult choice between things like eating and heating putting food on the table or paying the bills part of this is driven by problems in benefit administration sanctions being applied often and appropriately that leaves people having to go to food banks food banks such as this one run by the trussell trust that charity first started working with abandoned children involved area but they switched over to the u.k. when they discovered what they call hidden hunger in britain three banks open every week in the u.k. now and in unexpected areas like kensington and chelsea where houses like these distribute store cupboard stay. calls and tinned food to families that are in need of emergency provisions in fact over two hundred thousand people had to turn to food banks last year in order to get bread that's double the amount on the year

before so if the sad dynamic persists food banks like these are going to have to get a whole lot bigger in order to feed britain's struggling families charities say that some parents are so desperate to feed their children that they consider stealing has become such a reality that police have been known to take hungry shoplifters to food banks instead of arresting them a lot of people that come to the banks have stories which are really heartbreaking and we've had people coming to pick banks who've been forced to choose between eating and feeding their children and that's something we see very regularly just like gemma's over half of britain's impoverished children have parents that are in work and the issue of putting food on the table eats up their lives on come from monday. on a monday evening waiting to take the violence to others and it's one of example there is. it kind of controls you a little bit kind of takes over your lives because when you're going through week

to week on a small amount you think well i'm going to run on tuesday and i'm not i'll do a list this is what we paid out this quarter played out like that leaves me that much for shopping and it takes over your your thinking for most of the week and with the cost of basic necessities including food rising all the time gemma lives on a diet of daily struggle and worry about the future bali boyko r t london. thousands of supporters of venezuelan president hugo chavez rallied outside the presidential palace on the day when he should have been sworn in for a new six year term chavez's inauguration has been postponed indefinitely in a controversial supreme court ruling as he recovers from cancer surgery in cuba your political analyst eric draitser believes that the charges government occurred face a threat from abroad in the absence of his charisma atic leader. so the opposition despite all of their posturing and despite the fact that the private corporate

media inside of venezuela and around the world is very much squarely behind them and us imperialism they lack a very real base of support on the ground they have some support but as we saw in the results of the recent elections that opposition is still very much in the minority now in terms of an international destabilization using this opposition this is very much a very real possibility of course we've seen much of the destabilization campaign emanating out of the u.s. embassy out of the institutions that's why we saw us and other international organizations that are controlled by the state department booted out of that country or at the very least minimized so this is a standard tactic that is very much part of the playbook of twenty first century imperialism of the united states but again the danger here is that without chavez and without the power of his personality that they'll be able to attack those institutions inside the country the question will be how strong are the ball of aryan institutions and how willing is that base of support to come out into the

streets in support of the revolution and against what could only be called counter-revolutionaries of the opposition representing wall street in washington. the gun control debate is a locked and loaded in the u.s. a new survey shows americans are the lowest life expectancy of wealthy nations to the haitian umble fire into the mall and this on a website. and also while you online siberia called a state of emergency as padstow hungry wolves i'm proud settlements in the hunt for livestock this and many other stories on our web site at our teeth dot com. russian researches have collected the first samples from lake vostok they show a body off freshwater and on tactic the scientists managed to panic. traded three thousand four hundred meters of solid ice to reach the lake that has been sealed

off for millions of years let's not get more on this breakthrough from archie's tom barton tom the coldest spot on the earth you know what makes his latest breakthrough so unique. well it really is a breakthrough is absolutely the correct word and i don't think i'm causing a great stir saying that antarctica's not short of ice but what this deep drilling breakthrough does show is that not all ice is the same we consistent pictures here from last year in february when the first breakthrough was made down below this huge thick ice sheet to what's called a sub lake there and some samples were taken here we go this is the the water taken out then. it was found then they hoped that they could sample that water and see the composition of what was inside that frozen lake deep underneath the glasses sadly that was contaminated they couldn't work out where precisely that water had

come from now they've gone back down it again and they're looking three thousand four hundred six meters they drilled down as you can imagine a lot of work in very difficult conditions and now they have this amazing piece of as they described it white with rich with bubbles it sounds almost tastes it doesn't it doesn't taste it now we understand that it's been a russian team of scientists who've been there it's actually it's not an international team so what sort of things that they trying to find out from this water that they just if government yeah i mean as a as i said earlier it may you may think by society's eyes not the case it is a huge place tactic that absolutely so but what they think the scientists think from this team and from other teams trying to do similar things with different in different legs is that perhaps this huge ice sheet for twenty million years has locked this underground. subglacial lake it's essentially sealed it off from the

outside world and that means that if they can extract the air in those little air bubbles they can try and form a better picture of what life was like on earth if there was much of it around to that place twenty million. they may even be able to find traces of bacteria maybe even more complex life forms that would show as amazing insights into the process of evolution all that time ago sounds incredible how is lake vostok different from all the other bodies of water around me what makes it different well this it's the largest of its kind of these as you said so blaze your lake so lake vostok sits underneath this more so three and a half thousand meters of ice above it there are other teams trying to do similar things with other lakes they've not broken through yet this russian team was the first to do anything of this kind and it's hoped that further experiments this is this is just the beginning of their look into this mysterious world that's been

trapped away for all this time and it's hope that it can really try and shine a light some amazing scientific discoveries on on what our planet was like all that time ago i imagine with the weather being cold and saw extreme i mean it's almost this is like the making of a film you can just see this in hollywood very soon because one more me to keep drilling and. while this is amazing i can't wait to find out what they actually find out from there hopefully life that will tell us how it was like back in those days three hundred million years ago interesting to millions. all right thank you don here in the studio right hagel group anonymous have posted a petition on the white house website seeking to make distributed denial of service attacks a legal form of protests the organization claims that slowing shutting down a website is not hacking and should be considered the equivalent of a real life street picket international human rights lawyer stanley cohen says such

action should fall under first amendment protection. when barack obama gets on the television and begs his followers and when politicians implore their followers to get on the switchboard to shut him down to send a message to support a position it's considered free speech the da says essentially nothing different than what obama is doing what politicians are doing and what corporations are doing through lobbying firms we have traditional laws which are designed when people cross the line it's that we with all first amendment activities and it should be no different here i think it's less likely at this show that president obama will recognize that because he has a history of trying to repress free speech he's he's a he's afraid of the light of day i think it's more likely that down the road some of the courts may the man may look at some of these actions and find that there's first amendment protection and free speech implicated that's not to say that an effort to change the president's mind shouldn't be undertaken again we're not

talking about hacking we're not talking about theft we're not talking about injuring property in any sense of the word. afresh coalition is split in the u.k. that's diplomats that think you shouldn't leave the e.u. prime minister david cameron contemplates a referendum on staying in the union more hades. america's military future in afghanistan the afghan leader hamid karzai has to meet president obama with washington still mulling the number of u.s. troops that will remain in the country twenty fourteen more on that in a few minutes. whether you die from high or to the depths. catch the power of the wind or drift in the beauty of the currents.

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look at the global financial headlines to name two cars a report on our. thank you. thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you. thank you thank you ok so watching archie we're live in moscow for you case coalition government faces a new rift over u.s. diplomat warning britain against leaving the e.u.

the prime minister tried to glance over the situation as he wants to renegotiate london's relations with brussels meanwhile his deputy claims americans a warning is spot on as a u.k. is valuable to the u.s. because of its position in europe archies laura smith has the details it's always known that the u.s. prefers that the u.k. has a close relationship with the e.u. because when it wants something done it's britain that it calls but this is a kind of direct challenge to the government over europe to the involving itself in internal bush's affairs is something a little bit new the u.s. has warned of the dangers of holding a referendum on europe for the u.k. and it has called for full out of the coalition government although that's not a difficult thing to do these days david cameron the prime minister has played it out saying it's just an opinion but nick clegg his deputy has said that it is a big issue that the u.k. is valuable to use us precisely because it has a clue.