intriguing story. arabic for and out me visit or a big. dog called. years so we can barack obama's pledge to shut down guantanamo bay still rings hollow with more than one hundred sixty people held at the end of tory's prison without charge or trial eleven years after it opened. western media reports syria's you rhenium stockpiles may be at risk of falling into the wrong hands but some analysts believe the hype is just an excuse for an armed intervention. and a cool catch for russian scientists drilling deep into one tactic we've got ahold of some place allies which could reveal some twenty million year old secrets of our planet.

you're watching our live from moscow with me to bomb would say it's good to have you with us. that's one of the most notorious detention facilities in the world which has seen abuse deaths and hundreds of people held without charge or trial america's one ton of obaid still open after eleven years with were obama extending the military's authority to keep the camp running despite his own pledge to shut it down years ago what's more calls to stop indefinite detention have largely died down in the us where even torture is getting acceptability as gannett she can explain. president obama's call to look forward not backward has resulted in attempts to sweep the past under the rug including some of his own promises i'm going to close guantanamo and i will follow through on that colonel morris davis

was a chief prosecutor at guantanamo under george w. bush he later became a vocal critic of the practices there and strongly supported president obama's pledge to shut down the prison he says the perception of guantanamo in the u.s. has come a long way since two thousand and eight when he was a burning and highly controversial issue with a nation demanding action he gets a free pass on i mean the public largely could care less the mainstream media now here in the us. you know is more interested in car dash and then they are and what happens at guantanamo. so who's going to challenge it if we're looking for the biggest threat to america right now she's right there her name is kim carr daschle and. america has moved on and so has its perception of torture polls by the american red cross show the majority of americans now find torture acceptable sixty percent of young people agree whereas four years ago torture was largely condemned

in the us. hollywood has arguably contributed to that evolution of public opinion in the movie zero dark thirty day or trade that the information that led to the capture. and killing of osama bin laden was obtained through enhanced interrogation techniques or torture and in fact that is simply not true actual information was obtained through a report based interrogation techniques the government classified everything related to its torture practices which allows politicians pundits and filmmakers the freedom to perpetuate all kinds of myths although a slew of washington insiders including the senate intelligence committee point out how torture has proved to be ineffective but in america it's often fiction not facts that make history this is more important than reality this is the movies where americans learn their history and today the history in the making is the

drone strikes this amounts to the administration executing people without due process often in absolute secrecy in foreign lands with a remote control but will obama's drones generate as much of a backlash as one tunnel did for george w. bush that we've now got have a generation that only knows the post nine eleven hero. where things like guantanamo and the. warrantless wiretapping that's all they've ever known you know for a decade now and i think it's just become an accepted part of life unfortunately judging by how the guantanamo controversy evolved here is what may transpire with regards to drones the urgency of the issue will subside in the west because there will be no american troops dying there will be no strong public movement to oppose the program there may even be a movie or two how do you become the logical capabilities of the drones and once the controversy dies down it will become the new normal and america will move on.

in washington i'm going to struggle. over the past eleven years a number of detainees who survived abuse within the walls of guantanamo have been released without charge compensation or even a simple sorry some who have revealed the details of their deals to our t.s.a. the remaining presidents are being totally neglected but i don't know why i was released and others are not ok i mean like specially when you know that people. are not involved in anything and want to know more people who have been cleared ok i do time i don't know what i was released i don't know if i was cleared or not really i don't remember but for today there are people who have been cleared and they're not out of guantanamo and i think but but feel uncomfortable and you feel that's guilt lingering in yourself that's why they're still in the memory of winter and of course the very clear because of what happened in. the mistreatment doesn't go away

easily i think it's. it's kind of i think in those create. and deep wound that will last a long years in the memories are very clear and when we talk about the economy these things do come back the people might have been forgotten that sometimes can exist. you know it's very difficult to get the media interested into the story the way. just in time or some existing theory is important because every individual that is locked up in one town counts the family count the messages that come from a sense to the world is a very disturbing and very serious message that has to be has to be. has to be like you know supposed unspoken against. stay with algae throughout friday as will bring you more reaction analysis and firsthand accounts on the grim eleven year anniversary of one ton of. your borders and beyond the courts

eleven years on guantanamo remains open for business party looks at the interrogation nerve center of america's war on terror. activists in syria say islamic militants have seized a strategic helicopter base in the north and was perceived as a blow to government forces it comes as u.s. and middle east experts say serious internal conflict is putting the country's you rhenium stockpiles at risk that's according to a report in the british financial times newspaper that says damascus has up to fifty tons of under issue rhenium enough to create five nuclear bombs syria was thought to be close to completing a reactor in the east all the country with help from north korea when the facility was reportedly destroyed by israeli jets five years ago there are now concerns that iran syria's closest ally in the region might be trying to save this child with nuclear program there are also fear of syria's chemical weapons could fall into the

hands of islamic extremists meanwhile bridgend says it's not excluding giving military assistance to the rebels should the conflict worsen but a middle east commentator call sherif things the way name issue is just another way to harry goward you know there's kind of a sequence which a north alarmists in are used to being reduced concerning chemical weapons nuclear . the syrian regime there's a process of learning for that they are. western powers very miserly i think they're buying up all these different reasons for them to step in and take control will start to treat a country should. i want to start is that said no they're afraid that iran might get this. and in fact they could update it now. so i think it's another in this long list of forces. for the west to. or western states to

intervene and it seems that there's a lot of preparation for great thanks for stepping in should i stand for and taking control of the situation including the u.k. when the u.k. government decided to run for that possibility so you see that there are multiple failures engaged in that process which is kind of oh really shocking the fate of syria could be decided outside this latency. and staying with syria top diplomats from russia and the u.s. are now meeting with the united nations peace envoy lakhdar brahimi in geneva the main goal is to try and find a political solution to the country's crisis and almost two years of bloodshed is you've got a piece going up has more. barbara hume is once again stressed that the only possible peaceful solution to the conflict in syria should be based on the agreements reached by world powers last summer in geneva which call on both sides to simultaneously and immediately put their weapons down start a political process which includes forming

a transitional government but the biggest stumbling blocks at the moment are first of all the feet of president assad the opposition wants him gone mr brahimi has been reported saying that there may be no place in this transitional government for him assad himself has been saying he's ready for dialogue with the opposition but he's not going anywhere and the second biggest stumbling block is the rebels the refusal to compromise in fact they have been saying that they are not going to take part in any negotiations while president assad remains in power so there are definitely things to talk about for russia's deputy foreign minister mikhail bogdanov the u.s. deputy secretary of state william burns and international. brahimi of course as soon as we get any details from this meeting report them hopefully they will be able to find new ways to persuade both sides of the conflict in syria to put their weapons down. no matter what some special offer in the grocery stores aging well is

still a luxury for increasing numbers of british families no wages and slash welfare mean food banks so even that to keep their children fed has a story of those beneath the bread line. for this struggling mother it's a hand to mouth existence but the pressure of too hungry mouths to feed gemma receives has small shop assistant wage and to state benefits every cheese day some of our wait upon a founder and i will if you have five pounds and i think what. other five pound not much when you're living on the breadline one in five mothers in britain just like gemma regularly skip meals just to feed their children and you want to make nutritional kitty you hear me all the time on t.v. . they should be in the five but they can freshen me but you know sometimes you just can't do it and you have to buy them seventy seven p. basic causes part because that's all you can afford for the single mother manage in

a tiny budget is turning into a puzzle that harder and harder to solve we are seeing a lot more families telling us that they have to make difficult choice between things like eating and heating putting food on the table or paying the bills part of this is driven by problems in benefit administration sanctions being applied often and appropriately that leave people having to go to food banks food banks such as this one run by the trussell trust that charity first started working with abandoned children involved area but they switched over to the u.k. when they discovered what they call hidden hunger in britain three fruit banks open every week in the u.k. now and then unexpected areas like kensington and chelsea where houses like these distribute store cupboard staples and tinned food to families that are in need of emergency provisions in fact over two hundred thousand people had to turn to food banks last year in order to get bread that's double the amount on the year before

so if the sad dynamic persists food banks like these are going to have to get a whole lot bigger in order to feed britain's struggling families charities say that some parents are so desperate to feed their children that they consider stealing it's become such a reality that police have been known to take hungry shoplifters to food banks instead of arresting them a lot of people that come to the banks have stories which are really heartbreaking and we've had people coming to food banks who've been forced to choose between eating and feeding their children and that's something we see very regularly just like gemma's over half of britain's impoverished children have parents that are in work and the issue of putting food on the table eats up their lives. on come to a month. now on a monday evening waiting to check the balance talk about the price went up example there is. it kind of controls you a little bit kind of takes over your life because when you're going weeks and weeks

and weeks on this one about you think you are going to get this money and she say and i'm not i'll do a list this is what we paid out this quarter paid out like that leaves me that much for shopping and it takes over your your thinking for most of the week and with the cost of basic necessities including food rising all the time gemma lives on a diet of daily struggle and worry about the future ali boyko r t london. britain's prime minister has also been slapped with a second warning against walking out on the e.u. with both statements adding fuel to the debate within bridges coalition government on whether the country should distance itself from the union our report just a couple of minutes away. plus the afghan leaders voyages to washington is here to bring clarity on the u.s. troops withdrawal from the war ravaged country due in twenty forty one ellis' of that dilemma coming up.

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you're watching r t a u.k. exit from the e.u. would result in economic disaster for britain that's according to the chair of germany's european affairs committee the statement comes in the aftermath of an outright warning against britain's possible withdrawal voiced by a senior us official on wednesday which calls if a schism in the u.k. coalition government details now from archies laura smith it always known that the us prefers that the u.k. has a close relationship with the e.u. because when it wants something done it's britain that it calls but this is a kind of direct challenge to the government over europe to the involving itself in internal bush insofar as is something a little bit new the u.s.

is warned of the dangers of holding a referendum on europe for the u.k. and it has called for a full out of the coalition government although that's no so difficult thing to do these days david cameron the prime minister has played it out saying it's just an opinion but nick clegg his deputy has said that it is a. u.k. is valuable to use us precisely because it has a close relationship with the european union but of course his party does stand against anything that distances pressin from the now i felt that the main issue for people here given that there's an increasing lack of support for britain's membership of the european union would probably be just that the us sticking it already so i went out to us that they have concerns and i can understand because they were saying you look very similar values. we represent them and you. clearly. take notice

but equally i don't. fully understand. the implications for britain i don't think it is because i mean we are a different kind of teaching them so you know i think we should make. a lot of people in the streets there saying it is a question of sovereignty now with me i said gerrard batton he's a member of the european parliament we've always known haven't we the u.s. prefers that the u.k. has a close relationship with the union so what difference does it make now that they've said it out loud i think the difference here is that they're actually interfering in british politics i think there's a difference between a country having a view about other country's foreign policy and stating that but i think this is a bit different this is a direct attempt to interfere in british domestic policies and they're trying to frighten the british people by saying you know we'd lose in front. of an all the rest of it if we continue along this road of actually asking one morning what's happened to our national sovereignty it's gone and we'd like it back and the polite

thing of plotting our side. president. and david cameron is big plans for a referendum we're expecting this announcement within the next few weeks you'll be pleased about that what difference does this really make i think you'd have to be very naive to think if david cameron is sincere about this he's talk. about a referendum but this whole thing about renegotiation is a nonsense you cannot renegotiate the terms of membership terms of membership decided by treaty they have to be done by unanimous agreement of all twenty seven member states and twenty eight soon when croatia joins you cannot renegotiate on a piecemeal basis and nobody in the european you other countries going to renegotiate our terms or allow us to because we're one of the biggest problem ourselves to view so the us is worried about nothing but i think the american should mind their own business. you know what we don't tell them how to about their national sovereignty i shouldn't tell us which is the most precious thing we've got is the right to determine our own democratic affairs of our thank you very much that service and talking to me about ministration expressing his opinion on the

u.k. so i'm sure for the e.u. . the u.s. and afghanistan have moved into the last chapter of the eleven year war as washington's defense secretary sees it after a lot of discussions leon panetta in present time because i are non stayed made some good progress but fail to provide any concrete answers to the debated pullout of u.s. troops from afghanistan and going to sons of future remains uncertain with a lack of clarity over how many american soldiers will remain after the proposed withdrawal in twenty four team some crucial decisions expected after today's talks between the afghan leader hamid karzai and u.s. president barack obama let's discuss guidelines shared between washington and what outcomes might all current with danielle wagner who's managing director of the country rick solutions a think tank missile why do you agree that this is the last chapter of the afghan war as leon panetta puts it. it's certainly the last chapter of the war as

america has known it for the last eleven years what's really at issue here is legacy for both presidents and not only president obama but also in a sense president bush who who started this war in two thousand and three for mr obama it's a question of how much bang for his buck he can get what resources will he be able to marshal and how effective will it be for mr karzai it's a question of will his legacy be intact after all of this time will he be able to say that they have effectively countered the taliban and will it be sustainable after he leaves the scene in two thousand and fourteen what do you think is the message behind panetta is the last chapter call well this is being said is mr panetta stepping out the door if you will look to now in washington it's really a question of what politics and economics dictate and at this stage of the game mr

obama has shifted his script if you will from talking about a war of necessity to a war of how can we get out of this with the least amount of damage if you will my guess is that probably something like five to seven thousand troops would be the compromise solution at the end of the day and it's a question of comparative advantage in terms of negotiating style i would say mr mr karzai probably has the upper hand here so. as discussions with top american officials have created more questions than answers do you think this meeting with obama will shed more light on the prospects of the you with mission in afghanistan . i do expect it will shed more light on the u.s. mission in afghanistan for as you say the last chapter really at the end of the day mr obama can no longer skirt this issue the election is out of the way the clock is ticking so this is sort of if you will do or die time for both presidents and my

expectation is that we will see some meaningful dialogue going on in some meaningful conclusion at the end of the discussions in the coming days while washington appears inclined to withdraw most of its forces from afghanistan if not all while again is them scenes of desperate to hold on to the american contingent is a compromise possible yet. there will be a compromise let's bear in mind that what's at stake here really in essence what's at stake is really the legitimacy of the western alliance over the last eleven years we have seen the surge over the last two years and the surge has not changed the changing landscape at all what's ended up happening is that the taliban has not been back to the negotiating table for nearly a year and can anyone legitimately say that having virtually increased by fifty percent the troop levels to one hundred thousand troops in the last two years it's now back down to sixty six thousand but it didn't result in getting the taliban to

the peace table so when you have a troop troop level of say less than ten thousand is that likely to get the taliban to the table my suspicion is not and the taliban is divided between the hardliners who want to hold out and go for an all out victory and those who are weary of the war and want some sort of a compromise but if i was the taliban i would say look maybe we should hold out here because certainly their negotiating position seems to be preferable well we'll see what happens in the next couple of days after that meeting with president barack obama daniel agger of the country re solution think tank thank you for your time. secrets of from our planet's prehistoric pas could not be uncovered after russian researchers minister retrieve ancient eyes from an tactic as big as a subglacial league it wasn't easy to get hold of either they had to drill down over three kilometers to get to lagos dog which has been sealed for some twenty million years argy its own garden told me how it is not just annual frozen lake.

not all ice is the same we can see some pictures here from last year in february when the first breakthrough was made down below this huge thick ice sheet to what's called a sub lake there and some samples were taken here we go this is the the water taken out then. it was found then they hoped that they could sample that water and see the composition of what was inside that frozen lake deep underneath the glasses sadly that was contaminated they couldn't work out where precisely that water had come from now they've gone back down it again and they're looking three thousand four hundred six meters they drilled down as you can imagine a lot of work in very difficult conditions and now they have this amazing piece of as they described it white ice with rich with bubbles it sounds almost tasty

doesn't it doesn't taste see now we understand that it's been a russian team of scientists who've been there but it's actually it's not an international team so what sort of things that they trying to find out from this water that they've just if government you know i mean as a as i said earlier it may it may think by society's eyes not the case and it's a huge place here in tactic at absolutely so but what they think the scientists think from this team and from other teams trying to do similar things with different in different legs is that perhaps this huge ice sheet for twenty million years has locked this underground this lake essentially sealed it off from the outside world and that means that if they can extract the air in those little air bubbles they can try and form a better picture of what life was like on earth if there was so much of it around to that place twenty million years ago they may even be able to find traces of bacteria maybe even more complex life forms that would show as amazing insights

into the process of evolution all that time ago. coming up the mountain look said israel's influence over the u.s. government breaking the sets off to the brink. because of recent events guns have a become a big issue all over the usa both sides are throwing their talking point ammunition back and forth and we hear a lot of conflicting stories well in australia they got tough on guns and crime went down but then again others say in the u.k. they got rid of all their guns and all hell broke loose i've heard stories that you are way more likely to be killed by a deer in your headlights than get taken out by a maniac with a tech nine but then again i've heard that deaths from guns even deaths from car accidents japan is safe because it has no guns but switzerland is even safer because automatic weapons are all over the place the information is all very

contradictory but ultimately it doesn't matter what facts and reports you throw at the other side the gun question is a philosophical one some people would rather at least feel like they have their fate in their own hands even if there is a chance they will shoot their own dog in the middle of the night and other people are so concerned with safety and are so full of fear for their fellow man that they'd rather disarm everyone and leave all the weapons in the hands of the criminals or have them legal or not anyways and in the hands of the government who was seems pretty happy to use force at home and abroad i don't know i'd rather risk the unpredictable actions of some idiots out there in society but at least have the ability defend myself and have some control over my life in a means to resist oppression but that's just my opinion. to go.

to go. live on one hundred thirty three bucks a month for food i should try it because you know how. i mean. they are really nice. and they're all very closely of. course you're going to. lie down sort of a day and a radio guy and polite email from a click and they want you to watch closely because you've never seen anything like this i'm telling.