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it's seven pm here in moscow you live with us on r.t. it's good to have you with us this evening it's one of the most notorious detention facilities in the world which has seen abuse deaths and hundreds of people held without charge or trial america's guantanamo bay is still open after eleven years with barack obama extending the military's a four g. to keep the camp running despite his own pleasure shut it down years ago what's more calls to stop indefinite detention have largely died down in the us where even torture is gaining acceptability s.k. on its edge again expands. president obama's call to look forward not backward has resulted in attempts to sweep the past under the rug including some of his own promises i'm going to close guantanamo and i will follow through on that colonel

morris davis was a chief prosecutor at guantanamo and a george w. bush he later became a vocal critic of the practices there and strongly supported president obama's pledge to shut down the prison he says the perception of guantanamo in the u.s. has come a long way since two thousand and eight when he was a burning and highly controversial issue with the nation demanding action he gets a free pass on i mean the public largely could care less the mainstream media and here in the u.s. . you know is more interested in car dash and then they are and what happens at guantanamo. so who's going to challenge it if we're looking for the biggest threat to america right now she's right there her name is kim carr daschle and. america has moved on and so has its perception of torture polls by the american red cross show the majority of americans now find torture acceptable sixty percent of young people agree whereas four years ago torture was largely condemned in the us.

hollywood has arguably contributed to that evolution of public opinion in the movie zero dark thirty day or trade the information that led to the capture and killing of osama bin laden was obtained through enhanced interrogation techniques or torture and in fact that is simply not true actual information was obtained through report based interrogation techniques the government classified everything related to its torture practices which allows politicians pundits and filmmakers the freedom to perpetuate all kinds of myths although a slew of washington insiders including the senate intelligence committee point out how torture has proved to be ineffective but in america it's often fiction not facts that make history this is more important than reality this is the movies where americans learn their history and today the history in the making is the

drone strikes this amounts to the administration executing people without due process often in absolute secrecy in foreign lands with a remote control but will obama's drones generate as much of a backlash as one tunnel did for george w. bush and we've now got have a generation that only knows the post nine eleven hero. where things like guantanamo and the war was wiretapping that's all they've ever known for decades now and i think it has become an accepted part of life unfortunately judging by how the guantanamo controversy here's what may transpire with regard to grow the urgency of the issue will subside in the u.s. because there will be no american for dying there will be no movement. there may even be a movie or two touting the technological capabilities of drones and once the controversy dies down it will become the new normal and america will move on in washington

i'm going to check. over the past eleven years so number of detainees who survives abuse who within the walls of guantanamo have been released without charge compensation or even a simple story some who have revealed the details of their deals to r.t.c. the remaining prisoners have been totally neglected. i don't know why i was released and others are not ok i mean like especially when you know that people. are not involved in anything and want to know more people who have been cleared ok at the time i don't know what i was really so i don't know if i was cleared or not really i don't remember but today there are people who think they're not out of guantanamo and i think but but feel uncomfortable and you feel that's guilt lingering in yourself that while they're still in the memory of one thousand of course they're very clear because of what happened. the mistreatment doesn't go away easily i think it's. it's kind of i think in those create.

an deep wound that will last a long years the memories are very clear and when we talk about. these things do come back the people might. still exist. you know it's very difficult to get the media interested into a story when this became just some existing theory is important because every individual that is locked up in. the family. the messages that come from a sense to the world is a very disturbing and very serious message that has to be has to be. has to be like you know supposed unspoken against. let's not get some reaction from norma filo researcher for the human rights for prisoners now miss them i feel certainly the closure of good morrow is long overdue but what is

a guarantee the people being held there wants them to be moved to some secret facility and possibly being tortured the. well first of all this no it doesn't seem that guantanamo is going to close any time soon do you invested billions in the facility. seems that it's meant to last for very long time so there's no indication that anybody is going to be transferred to. the place at the moment i remember former guantanamo detainees telling me. guantanamo is going to last for a long time when they realized. that they were building new facilities we think wanted more so it doesn't. anybody's going to transfer anyway at the moment this is surely no guarantee that suspects released without charge will not turn to terror given many of their backgrounds why shouldn't the us do something to try and keep itself and not the country safe keeping the detainees in place. while the

problem is that the detainees one hundred sixty six are remaining in guantanamo most of them have been cleared for release eighty nine of them have been cleared for release so. the detainees in guantanamo threat to the world indeed they are victims and. the former prosecutor in guantanamo said that the narrative developed by the american government was and was simply a lie. the one not the worst of the worst there are people that were picked up in different countries or board from. villages and brought to guantanamo they were never accused of any crime simply because according to this former prosecutor the name of one time was not for them to face prosecution it was simply for them to be used for intelligence purposes. all right some eighty six detainees have been

cleared for release back in two thousand and nine but they're still at. what's blocking their return and how would they be treated at home if they had to go back while one of the main question we know that many of the detainees who have been returned to a country such as moral core. before the revolution were indeed . prison torture so that was one of them in question however. now we know that situation after. countries and more this example of with the last launch on or in guantanamo the u.k. government. declared i was happy to welcome him when he could be reunited with his british family. u.s. government has cleared him for release. in guantanamo eleven years after his kidnapping what the u.s. is holding terror suspects at guantanamo under american law is there any way for

the international community together around such you know to get around in national legislation to actually get people out and take them back home. well i don't think it's fair to say that one would you think these are detained and there are american law there are detained and no law whatsoever because guantanamo is a system we. just make a system as they go along so one of the reason why it's very difficult legally speaking because there is no room for legal challenge given that isn't good most closed other facilities will probably continue to operate what america's the war on terror continues what's it going to take for washington to declare that war over and practices it justifies being fighting extremism. well i think there's a long way to go for washington. understanding of the conflict because we're talking

about arbitrary detention by the obama administration has moved on to. arbitrary killing with the use of drones so it doesn't seem that washington is understood anything to the conflict and decided to carry on with even a greater abuse that it carries on like from london that was my feel a researcher for the human rights group cage a prisoner sharing his a few years on the story. so without see you throughout friday as will bring you more reaction and analysis and firsthand accounts on the grim eleven year anniversary of one time away. your borders and beyond the courts eleven years on guantanamo remains open for business and our team looks at the interrogation nerve center of america's war on terror. syria is now i gues of hiding nuclear weapons ready to be unleashed any time in

a few minutes we report on what some experts fear could be a pretext for intervention as the alleged atomic arsenal falls on to the western microscope. and we need some of the british families struggling to feed themselves as they suffer at the shop and of low wages and well fake cuts this story is just to hate. join me on a journey to the heart of the problem to a place is hidden from the tourists you're going to meet some real crime insiders although they may not be the usual news makers you see on t.v. .

you're watching r t activists in syria say islamic militants have seized a strategic helicopter base in the north and what's perceived as a blow to government forces it comes as u.s. and middle east experts say syria's internal conflict is putting the country's you

radium stockpiles at risk as according to a report in the british financial times newspaper that says damascus has up to fifty tons of under issue reign him enough to create five nuclear bombs syria was told to be close to completing a reactor in the east of the country with help from north korea and the facility was reportedly restrained by israeli jets five years ago there are now concerns that iran syria's closest ally in the region might be trying to seize a stockpile loizeaux nuclear program there are also fear as a syria's chemical weapons could fall into the hands of islamic extremists meanwhile britain says it's not executing giving military assistance to the rebels should the conflict worsen but middle east commentator call share with things the iranian issue is just another red herring when you know there's a carnival sequence a chain or alarmists in our use that are being produced concerning chemical weapons and nuclear. the syrian regime there's

a process of learning for that they are seen as western powers very miserly i think they're buying up all these different reasons for them to step in and take control and will start to treat a country should. i want to start is that certain oh they're afraid that you don't might get this you're under interest. and in fact they conducting it now. so i think it's another in this long list of possible reasons for the west to or western states to intervene and it seems that there's a lot of preparation for pretext for stepping in true and i stand for and taking control of the situation including the u.k. when the u.k. government decided to. get it you see you see that there are multiple failures engaged process which is kind of really shocking the fate of syria could be decided outside this blatant. media workers under attack in greece on friday morning

homemade bombs exploded at the homes of five journalists from major media outlets in athens authorities are linking the attacks to the current economic crisis in the country and the way the mainstream media are reporting it for more on this we're now joined by my knowledgeable steve is a contributor for the left but also a deep both the newspaper manalo what can you tell us about who was attacked and who may be responsible for these attacks. as you can you know there is no response ability nor group claimed responsibility but the way that that maybe to the left is group of course we cannot understand that the way that because until the last two or three years we didn't have any kind of attack especially to journalists in front of the homes but as you can understand this was a message for them because they were there were minor. my daughter damages in front

of a house it was a man a message to media and also to some journalists just to change the way that they saw the news about the economy crisis can you understand the extent of the public's frustration when you look at what's happening in greece. but look i cannot understand because this is not democracy. the way they some honor his group they think about it that they want to show their opinions because the last two or three weeks we have some attacks between. police and also on out of these groups in the center of athens especially a small building which was under occupation of his group last twenty two years saw police. police try to take them out and some fights last week so they don't like the way that the media showed these news and also they were

nearly rounded off when i think that they are fighting with police so the way the media shows is they don't like it and they just send these messages of course as a media worker i don't like this attack and also i'm afraid because you'd never know what would happen next day in front of your home. when the government suggested the attacks linked to how the economic crisis is being reported as you just said that the public doesn't like how you're reporting this crisis how much pressure is the mainstream media under right now. look from the government side we can say that the pressure. of course may be economic they will be some pressure but also if you if for only one way you have the government from the other way you have the nics group and the third way is the people in this street in this is so we have to be careful about the way that we are represented so as you can understand it's

not really easy way to be a journalist in this period we know greece is struggling through eighty six the year of recession and unemployment is high it's recently hit the highest rate in the e.u. is this the climate to the public's anger could the situation deteriorate further. and look. nobody was expecting that we will have nearly five years of this economic crisis and maybe we'll have more five years or ten years so as you can understand everybody is nervous also the government side also people also is a media worker we don't know what will happen to us we have a tax against us and also we have economic problems. cut our salaries and also many of us are unemployed so as you can understand it will be difficult for us

and we don't know what will happen tomorrow continuing problems the increase manalo school state is newspaper. depots thank you very much for your time and we hope you stay safe wherever you are. no matter what's on special offer in the grocery stores eating well is still a luxury for increasing numbers of british families wages and slash well for mean food banks or even theft to keep the children fed fully boyko has a story of those beneath the bread line. for this struggling mother it's a hand to mouth existence with the pressure of two hungry mouths to feed gemma receives has small shop assistant wage and to state benefits every tuesday someone will wake up on a farm there and i will if you have far far more growth and i think what. other five pound not much when you're living on the breadline one in five mothers in britain just like gemma regularly skip meals just to feed their children you want

to make. you hear it all the time when to be how they should be in a five a day and fresh me but you know sometimes you just can't do it and you have to buy them seventy seven p. basic classes part because that's who you can afford for the single mother managing a tiny budget is turning into a puzzle that harder and harder to solve we are seeing a lot more families telling us that they have to make these difficult choice between things like eating and heating putting food on the table or paying the bills part of this is driven by problems in benefit administration sanctions being applied often and appropriately that leave people having to go to food banks food banks such as this one run by the trussell trust but charity first started working with abandoned children involved area but they switched over to the u.k. when they discovered what they call hidden hunger in britain three fruit banks open

every week in the u.k. now and in unexpected areas like kensington and chelsea where houses like these distribute store cupboard staples and tinned food to families that are in need of emergency provisions in fact over two hundred thousand people had to turn to food banks last year in order to get bread that's double the amount of the year before so if the sad dynamic persists food banks like these are going to have to get a whole lot bigger in order to feed britain's struggling families charities say that some parents are so desperate to feed their. children that they consider stealing it's become such a reality that police have been known to take hungry shoplifters to food banks instead of arresting them a lot of people that come to the banks have stories which are really heartbreaking and we've had people coming to food banks who've been forced to choose between eating and feeding their children and that's something we see very regularly just like jammers over half of britain's impoverished children have parents that are in

work and the issue of putting food on the table eats up their lives on comment on monday. on monday evening waiting to take the violence to others and it's one of example there is. it kind of controls you a little bit kind of takes over your lives because when you're going week to week to week with a small amount of think you are making this money and you say and i'm not i'll do a list like this is what we paid out this quote we paid out like that leaves me that much for shopping and it takes over your thinking for most of the week and with the cost of basic necessities including food rising all the time gemma lives on a diet of daily struggle and worry about the future bali boyko r t london. britain's prime minister has also been slapped with a second warning against walking out on the e.u. with both statements adding fuel to the debate within which is coalition government and whether the country should distance itself from the union our report just

a couple of minutes away. the afghan leaders voyage to washington is yet to bring clarity on the u.s. troop withdrawal from the war rabbit country drew in twenty fourteen more analysis of that dilemma coming up.

more news today violence is once again flared up. and these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. giant corporations rule the day. i. a u.k. exit from the e.u. would result in economic disaster for britain that's according to the chair of germany's european affairs committee the statement comes in the aftermath of an outright warning against britain's possible withdraw worse by a senior us official on wednesday which cause a further schism in the u.k.

coalition government details now from marty's laura smith. we've always known that the u.s. prefers the u.k. has a close relationship with the e.u. because when it wants something done it's britain that it calls this kind of direct challenge to the government over europe involving itself in internal bush's affairs is something a little bit new the u.s. is warned of the dangers of holding a referendum on europe for the u.k. and it has called for all out in the coalition government although that's not a difficult thing to do these days david cameron the prime minister has played it out saying it's just an opinion but nick clegg his deputy has said that it is a big issue that the u.k. is valuable to give us precisely because it has a close relationship with the european union and but of course his party does stands against anything that distances person from the now i felt that the main issue for people here given that there's an increasing lack of support for britain's membership of the european union would probably be just that the us

taking it all in so i went out to ask them they have concerns and i can understand because they were saying we'll agree similar values. therefore we represent them and you. clearly. take notice but equally i don't. fully understand. the implications for britain i don't think it is because i mean we are a different kind of teachers and say you know i think we should make the decision a lot of people in the streets they're seeing it as a question of sovereignty now with me as gerrard baton who's a member of the european parliament we've always known haven't we the u.s. prefers that the u.k. has a close relationship with the union so what difference does it make now that they've said it out loud i think the difference here is that they're actually interfering in british politics i think there's a difference between you can send a country having a view about other countries foreign policy and stating that but i think this is

a bit different this is a direct attempt to interfere in british to mess. policies and they're trying to frighten the british people by saying you know we'd lose influence and jeopardizes our special relationship and all the rest of it if we continue along this road of actually asking one hundred million what's happened to our national sovereignty is gone and we'd like it back and the polite thing applied thing i would say the guy is president. and they become a big plans for a referendum or expecting this announcement within the next few weeks you'll be pleased about that what difference does this really make i think you'd have to be very noisy to think if david cameron is sincere about this he's talked about a referendum but this whole thing about renegotiation is a nonsense you cannot renegotiate the terms of our membership terms of membership decided by treaty they have to be done by unanimous agreement of all twenty seven member states and twenty eight soon when croatia joins you cannot renegotiate on a piecemeal basis and nobody in the european you other countries going to

renegotiate our terms or allow us to because we are one of the biggest paymasters to the you so the u.s. is worried about nothing but i think the americans should mind their own business. you know what we don't tell them how to about their national sovereignty i shouldn't tell us which is the most precious thing we've got is the right to determine our own democratic affairs thank you very much that's our button talking to me about ministration expressing his opinion on the u.k. so i'm sure for the e.u. the u.s. senate again is done have moved into the last chapter of the eleven year after and war as washington defense secretary sees it after an hour of discussions leon panetta and president hamid karzai announce they've made some progress but failed to provide any concrete answers to the debated pullout of u.s. troops from afghanistan i guess on future remains uncertain whether lack of clarity over how many american soldiers will remain after the proposed withdrawal in twenty fourteen some crucial decisions expected after today's talks between the afghan leader hamid.