tonight yes we can't spare a pledge to shut down guantanamo bay still rings hollow with more than one hundred sixty people held at the tories prison without charge or trial eleven years after it opened. western media reports syria's you radium stockpiles may be at risk of falling into the wrong hands but some analysts believe the hype is just an excuse for an armed intervention. and the cool cats for russian scientists drilling deep into the antarctic got hold of glacial ice which could reveal some twenty million year old secrets about our planet.

if you just joined us very good evening to you from me kevin i mean this is our teach just after eight pm here now and first is one of the most notorious attention facilities in the world which has seen abuse deaths and hundreds of people held without charge or trial america's animal base still open though after eleven years with barack obama extending the military's authority to keep the car running to spite his own pledge to shut it down years ago what's more calls to stop indefinite detention of largely died down in the u.s. or even torture is getting acceptability as garniture can explain. president obama's call to look forward not backward has resulted in attempts to sweep the past under the rug including some of his own promises earlier i intend to close guantanamo and i will follow through on that colonel morris davis was a chief prosecutor at guantanamo under george w. bush and he later became a vocal critic of the practices there and strongly supported president obama's

pledge to shut down the prison he says the perception of guantanamo in the u.s. has come a long way since two thousand and eight when he was a burning and highly controversial issue with the nation demanding action he gets a free pass on i mean the public largely could care less the mainstream media now here in the us. you know is more interested in car dash and then they are and what happens at guantanamo. so who's going to challenge it if we're looking for the biggest threat to america right now she's right there her name is kim carr does she in. america has moved on and so has its perception of torture post by the american red cross show the majority of americans now find torture acceptable sixty percent of young people agree whereas four years ago torture was largely condemned in the us. hollywood has arguably contributed to that evolution of public opinion in the

movie zero dark thirty day or trade the information that led to the capture and killing of osama bin laden was obtained through enhanced interrogation techniques or torture and in fact that is simply not true actual information was obtained through a report based interrogation techniques the government classified everything related to its torture practices which allows politicians pundits and filmmakers the freedom to perpetuate all kinds of myths although a slew of washington insiders including the senate intelligence committee points out how torture has proved to be ineffective but in america it's often fiction not facts that make history this is more important than reality this is the movies where americans learn their history and today the history in the making is the drone strikes this amounts to the administration executing people without due process often in absolute secrecy in foreign lands with

a remote control but will obama's drones generate as much of a backlash as one tunnel did for george w. bush and we've now got have a generation that only knows the post nine eleven hero. where things like guantanamo and the warrantless wiretapping that's all they've ever known for a decade now and i think it's just become an accepted part of life unfortunately judging by how the guantanamo controversy. here's what may transpire with regard to drone the urgency of the issue will subside in the u.s. because there will be no american troops dying there will be no public movement program there may even be a movie or two out of the cosmological to the withdrawal and once the controversy dies down it will become the new normal and america will move on in washington and then a second. well over the past eleven years

a number of detainees who survived abuse within the walls a grand time of been released without charge compensation reversable sorry some moves reveal the details of their own deal to r.t.c. the remaining prisoners are being totally neglected i don't know why i was released and others are not ok i mean like specially when you know that people have are not involved in anything you want to animal people have been cleared ok at the time i don't know when i was released i don't know if i was cleared or not really i don't remember but today there are people who are being cleared and they're not out of. but but feel uncomfortable and you feel that guilt that lingering in yourself. and they're still in the memories of one thousand of course they're very clearly because of what happened. the mistreatment doesn't go away easily i think it. it could've i think in those create. a little room that would last a long years and the memories are very clear and when we talk about them kind of

these things do come back the people might have forgotten that sometimes that exists. you know it's very difficult to get the media interested in through their story where this became just a fantasy existing if you like but it is important because every individual that is locked up in one thousand counts the family count the messages their concern with sins to the world is a very disturbing and very serious message that has to be has three years it has to be like you know opposed and spoken against. first get some reaction now from canada based on the war activist ken stone is joining us on the line ken good evening to you thanks for taking the time to be without with the so-called war on terror ongoing surely the u.s. needs to take certain precautions and deal with suspects as they see fit now. no i have my point is that the war so-called war on terror is actually

a war of terror against the arab and muslim people of central asia and africa and it's being waged by the us empire to seize the energy resources of the world and to position itself strategically against those trees that might prevent it from getting world hedger mommy like russia china and iran and those so-called war on terror what they're actually doing is they're trying to shatter international the international rule of law law concerning the invasions of other countries laws concerning. not in their parents and internal affairs and also the laws about torture and illegal imprisonment and this is where i wanted him off it's in it's part of a. torture bases that stretched from guatemala through prison ships to eastern europe and kosovo and in my opinion the real. criminals are not in those

jails the real criminals are the terrorists who start the wars like obama bush blair harper and so on those are the people who really belong in the jail can't phony washington off lectures other countries about civil liberties democracy without a mind a credible does the u.s. does look when the indefinite detention again remain prevalent then i'm sure. well it's a case of immense hypocrisy because all that the war on terror means for people in the west never mind and the sufferings of the people in the countries which are targeted is that we have we're losing our civil political and social rights there are emergency terrorist laws that go on forever because the war on terror is open ended there is imprisonment without trial there are security certificates there's a massive surveillance of ordinary civilians there's

a massive increase in the police the army and the security budget there's a culture of fear of islamophobia and an all of this is in the name of making us more secure actually it's making us less free all the time looks pretty primitive but the people that are inside there are eighty sixty trainees were cleared for release back in two thousand and nine and they're still at guantanamo was that they're there because there's opposition in the u.s. congress to closing guantanamo and because of president obama who in my opinion is the greatest disappointment of the twenty first century he not only inherited bush's war on terror but he has expanded it looks in the name of human rights he is sending he is arming and equipping mercenaries to go into syria to our command commit acts of terror and even u.s. special forces have been sent to coordinate these mercenaries so the person who is

talking about a war on terror is actually waging a war on terror against syrian but to the painful it was i what you think should be done with these detainees and others to the risk i guess that some still pose a terror threat isn't there or not not. six or seven hundred people that were in that camp only three were ever convicted of anything and the one of them was later and my opinion. and we were in the back can't get mall plus all the people who are in our secret rendition prisons and all those people on those thousands of people in prison ships should all be released and the people who should replace them are the people who make the wars bush blair and obama can focus be on the program can start on their lives from kind of the antiwar activist as. well being so without as well throughout the rest of the day as we bring in more reaction more analysis more firsthand accounts on the grim eleven

year anniversary of guantanamo bay. beyond borders and beyond the courts eleven years on the guantanamo remains open for business marty looks at the interrogation nerve center of america's war on terror. no matter what the special offer of the grocery stores eating well is still a luxury for increasing numbers of british families low wages and slashed well for mean food banks or even first and the children fred polly boy has got the story of those beneath the bread line. for this struggling mother it's a hand to mouth existence with the pressure of two hungry mouths to feed gemma receives her small shop assistant wage and her state benefits every chews day someone's always up on a farm there and i will if you have five pound in my growth and i think you are one hundred five pound not much when you're living on the breadline one in five mothers in britain just like gemma regularly skip meals just to feed their children you

want to make. you hear it all the time want to be how they should be in a five a day in fresh me but you know sometimes you just can't do it and you have to buy them seventy seven p. basic causes part because that's all you can afford for the single mother managing a tiny budget is turning into a puzzle that's harder and harder to solve we are seeing a lot more families telling us that they have to make this difficult choice between things like eating and heating putting food on the table or paying the bills part of this is driven by problems in benefit administration sanctions being applied of them in appropriately that leaves people having to go to food banks food banks such as this one run by the trussell trust that charity first started working with abandoned children involved area but they switched over to the u.k. when they discovered what they call hidden hunger in britain three fruit banks open

every week in the u.k. now and in unexpected areas like kensington and chelsea where houses like these distribute store cupboard staples and tinned food to families that are in need of emergency provisions in fact over two hundred thousand people had to turn to food banks last year in order to. bed that's double the amount of the year before so if the sad dynamic persists food banks like these are going to have to get a whole lot bigger in order to feed britain's struggling families charities say that some parents are so desperate to feed their children that they consider stealing has become such a reality that police have been known to take hungry shoplifters to food banks instead of arresting them a lot of people that come to the banks have stories which are really heartbreaking and we've had people coming to food banks who've been forced to choose between eating and feeding their children and that's something we see very regularly just like gemma's over half of britain's impoverished children have parents that are in

work and the issue of putting food on the table eats up their lives on come to on monday. on a monday evening waiting to take the violence to run it is one of example there is . it kind of controls you a little bit kind of takes over your lives because when you're going week to week to week all about you think i'm going to smile and you say and i'm not i'll do a list this is what we paid out this quote we pray that while that leaves me that much for shopping and it takes over your your thinking for most of the week and with the cost of basic necessities including food rising all the time gemma lives on a diet of daily struggle and worry about the future bali boyko r t london. serious now accused of hiding nuclear weapons ready to be unleashed at any time in a few minutes we'll report what some of its fear could be a pretext for a divine should as the alleged atomic bomb still falls into the western microscope

also to the afghan leaders voyage to washington as yet to bring clarity on the u.s. troop withdrawal from war ravaged country jewett twenty forty more analysis of that dilemma coming up to. whether you die from high or to the death. catch the power of the wind or drift in the beauty of the currents. being well prepared is

a must and if you're lucky. you'll never forget your experience we only need a screen that's going to be heaven. in the white see. below the ice on our t.v. . well again i christen seriously islamic militants have seized of strategic helicopter base in the north and what's perceived as a blow to government forces comes as u.s. middle east experts say syria's internal conflicts now putting the countries you raining in stockpiles at risk according to a report in the british financial times newspaper that damascus says it has up to fifty tons of and an enriching uranium enough to create maybe five nuclear bombs so

it was thought to be close to completing a reactor in the east of the country with help from north korea when the facility was reportedly destroyed by israeli jets five years ago there are concerns that iran serious closest ally in the region might be trying to seize the stockpiles or is only a program there also fears syria's chemical weapons could fall into the hands of islamic extremists meanwhile britain says it's not excluding giving military assistance to the rebels should the conflict worsen the middle east come to the culture shero told me be ready mission is just another red herring now there's kind of this chain or alarmists in our us that are being produced concerning chemical weapons nuclear iran. start of the syrian regime there's a process of planning for the day after as out as western powers are imagining it and i think they're buying up all these different reasons for them to step in and take control of start entry a country should doubt happen i do want to start is that so now they're afraid that

you know i do want to start is that certain under interest in you know and in fact they could octane it now how do i stand how did so i think it's another in this long list of possible reasons for go back to our western states to intervene and it seems that there's a lot of preparation for pretext for stepping in should i start for and taking control of this situation including the u.k. when do you can government decided to plan for that possibility so you see that there are multiple failures engaged in that process which is one of oh really shocking about the fate of syria could be decided outside this blatantly. the united nations peace envoy says there can be no military solution to the conflict in syria has reiterated the need for more diplomacy like debris he made the statement after meeting top diplomats from russia and the us in geneva if we're looking for ways to end almost two years of bloodshed on physical pushkin also been following the talks let's watch it with him and showing how igor looks like another

round of discussions than again are needed you. well absolutely kevin the violence in syria has lasted for too long and a solution is needed fast but according to international envoy on syria lakhdar brahimi who just met with russia's deputy foreign minister and the u.s. deputy secretary of state to the solution can only be a diplomatic one and should be based on the agreements reached earlier in geneva they call both sides of the conflict in syria to put their weapons down immediately and simultaneously and begin a political process which should include forming a transitional government is the breaking news also denied reports that he'd allegedly said that such a government may not have a spark for president assad but the biggest. stumbling blocks with me is the refusal of the opposition to compromise in fact they have been saying that they will not take part in any negotiations while president assad remains in power while he himself has been saying he is open for dialogue but is not planning to go

anywhere so there is an evident need for the international community to look for new ways to persuade both sides of the conflict to start this political process and put their weapons down when it comes to mr brahimi he says he's not ready to give up and we should expect him to make another visit to damascus the teaching of his can offer you very much. u.s. . moved in the last chapter to the eleven year afghan war as washington's defense secretaries it after our discussions leon panetta and president hamid karzai announced they'd made some good progress but failed to provide any concrete answers to the debate and pullout of u.s. troops from afghanistan a kind of science fiction remains uncertain and with a lack of clarity over have many american soldiers will remain after the proposed withdrawal in twenty fourteen so crucial decisions are expected after today's talks between the afghan leader hamid karzai and he was president barack obama then a wagners ranging director of country risk solutions think tank he believes

washington looks set to leave the afghan government in a vulnerable position. for mr karzai it's a question of will his legacy be intact after all of this time will he be able to say that they have affectively countered the taliban and will it be sustainable after he leaves the scene in two thousand and fourteen let's bear in mind that what's at stake here really in essence what's at stake is really the legitimacy of the western alliance over the last eleven years we have seen the surge over the last two years and the surge has not changed the landscape at all what's ended up happening is that the taliban has not been back to the negotiating table for nearly a year and can anyone legitimately say that having virtually increased by fifty percent the troop levels to one hundred thousand troops in the last two years it's now back down to sixty six thousand but it didn't result in getting the taliban to the peace table so when you have a troop troop level of say less than ten thousand is that likely to get the taliban

to the table my suspicion is not and the taliban is divided between the hardliners who want to hold out and go for an all out victory and those who are weary of the war and want some sort of a compromise but if i was the taliban i would say look maybe we should hold out here because certainly their negotiating position seems to be preferable will be brief tonight in neighboring pakistan security forces are on high alert in the country's largest city correct the string of bombings targeting shia muslim to cross the country has left at least one hundred fifteen people dead so the extremists of admitted carrying out the deadliest attack on a crowded billion hole in the southwest killing eighty one there and injured more than one hundred twenty shia muslims are a minority in pakistan and the target of violent attacks which have seen in recent . other world views the un for swift deployment of international troops in mali after massive clashes between militants and government forces in the central town president of france france were alarmed earlier voiced his country's readiness to

intervene to hold rebel advances the security council's already approved a plan to deploy three thousand african soldiers in spring islam ists captured more than mali and have since claimed further advances. secrets from our planet's prehistoric purse could now be uncovered after russian researchers managed to retrieve ancient ice from antarctica is biggest subglacial lake wasn't easy to get hold of they had to drill down over three kilometers to get to lake vostok which has been sealed up for some twenty million years tom told my colleague to beaumont say it's not just any old frozen lake not all ice is the same we can see some pictures here from last year in february when the first breakthrough was made down below this huge thick ice sheet to what's called a sub lake there and some samples were taken here we got this is the the water taken out then. it was found then they hoped that they could sample that water and

see the composition of what was inside that frozen lake deep underneath the glasses sadly that was contaminated they couldn't work out where precisely that water had come from now they've gone back down it again and they're looking three thousand four hundred six meters they drilled down as you can imagine a lot of work in very difficult conditions and now they have this amazing piece of as they described it white ice with rich with bubbles it sounds almost tasty doesn't it doesn't taste it now we understand that it's been a russian team of scientists who've been there it's actually it's not an international team so what sort of things that they trying to find out. but yeah i mean as a as i said earlier you may may think ice is ice is ice not the case it is a huge place here in tactic at the absolutely so but what they think the scientists think from this team and from other teams trying to do similar things it with

different different legs is that perhaps this huge ice sheet for twenty million years has locked this underground. subway to your lake it's essentially sealed it off from the outside world and that means that if they can extract the air in those little bubbles they can try and form a better picture of what life was like on earth if there was much of it around to that place twenty million years ago they may even be able to find traces of bacteria maybe even more complex life forms that would show as amazing insights into the process of evolution all that time ago what a find what was stirring it with water pursuit to discover how diving in the arctic circles getting popularity in northern russia programs going to after this break.

because of recent events guns have a again become a big issue all over the usa both sides are throwing their talking point ammunition back and forth and we hear a lot of conflicting stories well in australia they got tough on guns and crime went down but then again others say in the u.k. they got rid of all their gods and all hell broke loose i've heard stories that you are way more likely to be killed by a deer in your headlights than get taken out by a maniac with a tech nine but then again i've heard that soon deaths from guns will exceed even deaths from car accidents japan is safe because it has no guns but switzerland is even safer because automatic weapons are all over the place the information is all very contradictory but ultimately it doesn't matter what facts and reports you throw at the other side the gun question is a philosophical one some people would rather at least feel like they have their fate in their own hands even if there is a chance they will shoot their own dog in the middle of the night and other people

are so concerned with safety and are so full of fear for their fellow man that they'd rather disarm everyone and leave all the weapons in the hands of the criminals or have them legal or not anyways and in the hands of the government who was seems pretty happy to use force at home and abroad i don't know i'd rather risk the unpredictable actions of some idiots out there in society but at least have the ability defend myself and have some control over my life and a means to resist oppression but that's just my opinion.

the white sea. surface remains choked with ice has been nearly seven months a year. the chilly breath of the arctic ocean keeps the water freezing cold. near the coast however the high winds and bitter cold recede. that even in winter also can be seen through holes in the ice. board squeals and cracking sounds can often be hood around them. this is how so-called canaries of the sea communicate. typically they hide under the ice the white sea is the natural habitat.

i. far from the civilized world in the north of russia on the coast of the white sea sea canaries are communicating with people with great pleasure in the open waters. but not a cure they are behaving strangely today. sure why you had a canary so why did you feel like giving us a song it was something wrong with your frode system i didn't gargle before you start singing vs need. of water your best read on here is sure was more. than was a little let's give our throat some fish oil. now let's try to get off.