you know this is a conspiracy the government wanted to kill him so maybe we still have people who still have that mindset people don't like to say. that a government would make an effort to destroy people but black people have had a history. of tusky syphilis experience that was carried on by the federal government for thirty years one thousand nine hundred to one thousand nine hundred seventy two and people said at that time this is a way to get rid of the black population so that's horrible to have to think about . and that kind of planning but we have an entire museum in washington d.c. called the holocaust memorial museum which i'd maintain is the most important museum in the united states that everybody should go to that museum because it's not just about the death. six million people. it's about

a government of intelligent people deciding to get rid of a population. they thought was a kind tam and that. p.c. adolf hitler used the term tear mench in german animal people subfield and. as he spoke about the sioux my general view or through which. sold people who think conspiracy theories conspiracy they're not set up a conspiracy is when one segment makes a play and against the interests of another segment and the other segment doesn't know anything about it. and when it comes to matters of mental health and therapy. guy. was. half.

the time it's. just getting back on was to. try to. just. been done. and i think until you know even in the medical school curriculum you know. when to we talk about hiv you know important it is going to go into the next generation. is not just ignorance and stigma associated with a disease but a lack of compassionate. by nineteen ninety five h.i.b. infections among black americans had surpassed white america.

blacks accounted for forty percent of all newly infected h.i.v. cases. the most startling discovery was to learn that african-american women accounted for a greater proportion of new aids cases among african-americans overall in two thousand and three. it rose to become the number one cause of death for black women ages twenty five to thirty four and persis this day. after ten years from now. my husband and three year old daughter and beatrice twenty nine discovered to have aids my third child was born very sick. we didn't know what was wrong with her no one was able to tell us what was wrong she

was in and out of dol spittles and by the time she was about two my husband began to get sick my husband wasn't feeling well he had a cough we kept going to different doctors feel they kept misdiagnosing him first they said he had allergies they gave him allergy shots then they said he had tb they tested him and he's fine it doesn't have to be after about a full year of trying to figure out what was wrong and they then said ok your blood count is really low he went into the emergency room and they said well you probably have a bleeding ulcer so let's admit you to the hospital and let's check you for you know where that is and we can take care of it they kept misdiagnosing him because he was a family man he was married we owned a home we had children in private school so we didn't fit that stereotype of what people with aids or h.i.v.

look like people have histories people have done things in their lives my husband did do. but he had been clean for over terrorists so you know they didn't see any marks they didn't see anything that they thought was suspicious i guess that's the assumption and solar never ask them so what happened is that people's perception of who got a scot in the way. so by the time they figured it all out he did not have a bleeding ulcer and they then said ok we need to ask you some other questions you know have you ever done drugs and those type of questions and then he said yes several years ago when i was in the service. and they tested him and he came back with full blown aids. fellow even while my husband was sick and dying in a huff but all the you know i made up i did like many of us you know i made up

stories of what he had won telling the truth. because of discrimination because of fear because of him i don't want to people to be afraid of me he die on january first new year's day course it all made sense then what was wrong with the baby and then she died. on into it of that year. i tested myself and my two other children thank god they were healthy and they've been that virus but i. when i was diagnosed i was very sick i was ab pounds i had no t. cells and i was extremely ill so i was diagnosed with aids

diagnosis not an h.p.v. diagnosis i was given less than two years to live in the course of six brief months lost her husband of ten years three year old baby girl and was herself diagnosed with aids. when she reached out to her family i'm blessed that i have the family that i do we don't talk about it but i've never felt like they were afraid to be around me for many of those newly infected with hiv and aids silent to acceptance by family and friends is often not enough after everything happened i went to one support group then it was all guys they were nice men. and i was the only woman problem with that was many of those guys were talking about things like how do i tell my parents or my family that i am homosexual.

they were those were dear conversations and their fears and discussions of course when i brought up i am in panic i just lost my husband my baby i have an eight in a four year old i'm going to die soon what do i do with my kids i have to stop working i'm now on disability i went from two incomes to a fixed income a disability check i'm trying to figure it all out so of course i think i'm going to die because that's what i was told and for women for mothers our our focus now becomes not even about herself. it's about our children what's going to happen to our children my children are going to be orphans i can't even stand to be in the house with them and watch them playing because i was so heartbroken that i'm going to be leaving and i could identify with the guys in the group so i figure i need to talk to some women and see if my only one with this or or or what

recognizing that her doctor was seeing other female patients you had h.i.v. . came up with an idea i asked my doctor if i could put a flyer in our home in our office. some of the women so long the whole flyer into our office i put a secret phone line in my home because lots of family and friends didn't know i was dealing with this issue and lo and behold the phones started ringing and i started we started talking to each other just on the phone none of us wanted to show our faces and as we became more comfortable i would meet them in a coffee shop we started giving each other support that way and then started to support in my home where women will come together bring their children and. talk rye prepared for death and all of those things they were doing pretty much a. women's group soon revealed. concerns.

from a support group who quickly realized that services for women were non-existent if moms need to get to the doctor she was given a token to get on the bus to the doctor. she was given enough tokens to take the children to the doctor with her so basically she had no childcare she had no transportation so she couldn't go to the doctors she ended up not seeing a doctor so we became a network of women and we shared our our very limited resources we shared our trends. dictation and we help each other try to doctors appointments i ended up keeping lots of children in my home so that they don't get put into foster care system so i would say driving children to all different schools all over they see in maryland including in addition to mine so they don't get put into

foster care system. that's reluctant a handful of shy women soon blossomed into a forceful group of brave souls. no longer able to accommodate the growing number of each i.v. paused of women in her home that wrote a grant got funding and started the women's collective in washington d.c. . women are caregivers we are taking care of not only our children. parents who say we have. our own health and. to take care of everybody. and i think we need to set up a system that is more helpful. and support women around the support system. to help them to be able to take care of themselves.

to better understand why h.i.v.'s thieves are still so persistent in the black community we checked in with you. straight after all it

is they who will determine the face of the disease in the years to come. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lengthly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought. i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. download the official publication to choose your language stream quality and enjoy your favorite. if you're away from your television of the public just doesn't do so now with your mobile device you can watch on t.v. anytime anywhere.

so. i think education is definitely one of the more important pieces to it because people are getting the wrong information and they're spreading this wrong information out there we learned about the technical aspect how do you catch it what it is what it stands for right not like percentages and things like that and who are mainly affected my. yes just like general education knowing that stuff like when i took such that in school you never really learned about each ideally we just learned late about puberty and about how to put a condom on but they don't really teach you stuff like hiv prevention and who falls

into that category of who has it we're minimum incensing we're going to show you are great men having sex they don't shoot at all either you know it's very important to know about going to times about a man and woman having sex and the risk of what happens whenever a female on a femur are male male be to broaden it a little bit larger so we know you know we need we need we need to be straight you need to be gay but we need to know information isn't gerber's and i think it's also important that parents talk more with their children about it we don't talk a lot about that with us kids even today it's still kind of hard to broach that subject with the young people but it is so important. my mother was famous for this land you do it in the back you will be a jew she's made it all the time to the new mother i'm a virgin turned through rugby i did that doing the right you going to get a mother i'm pretty sure that's not cancer that's how you catch it. and it so she

found out how to really get it she was like a lot that was a game as disease i thought they were given to us and i thought that's how you get it just from doing that i didn't have bad day and he was like you know this and i get put i find it funny how when parents automatically assume that your child is going to be shared i mean and they kind of force me to it that is why a lot of conversation. well it is i mean needs don't really it doesn't really happen in the household because you're taught. you're kind of taught by your parents to be straight and you know to talk about anything that involves your sex life because you're not street is kind of only you know taboo to bring into your house and so he goes i'm not going to talk about you know the things that i can get you know by having sex because my mom doesn't want to hear about me having sex with another guy and for me is it's not even about just having sex with the same sex or opposite sex it's not having sex at all so it doesn't get beyond it just don't have sex and i'm not even wait until you get married type stuff just on sex and you know

procreation what if i'm thinking about it you know i'm interested and all i can talk with my parents about it or i don't feel like i can talk to them about that because they already say what they expect it is so now i have six so i'm like ok if i do have sex what will happen i can get pregnant well what about this and my kids . i don't know what they are i'm young i don't know an week slowmo h.i.v. we don't need to get to that because it's a don't have that i think many more open dialogue about it people are still very very nervous about talking about their sexual health and their sexual behavior talking about sex as pretty normal with my group of friends but when they console like a child be an online education step s.t.'s on it. that's not their home when it's really awkward but we do talk about it it's not like it's not existed but usually when i hear other people talking about issues in life all some i guess unattractive

or ugly will face on their person not their sauce or. all this stuff so it's usually in a negative not inspiring or educational like oh my personal friends my close friends issues are like look we be educating people or we're just talking about trying to figure out what what we know or was true us man something to say i caught a child be on my case in all the blame on the press all of the blame will myself and both of those are really i hope the economic f. up and i say a. good deal where if people manage to stop. with the abundance of information now available about hiv. number noses up the statistics they believe that as with vitamins all they have to do is pop a pill if they should become hiv positive in our community like we did desensitize ourselves so much from aids i mean people as i always a mental disease if you can manage it you've got to have deep pockets they manage

it i mean if you don't have insurance because i don't think the average person can pay fifteen thousand nine hundred dollars in rent and still pay two hundred dollars a month for medication and for those for whom money is not a concern there is a physical cost to taking drugs to fight hiv take four pills of creature i take one pill i think a bactrim pill because the key perfections and stuff away and then i take superior model rocketry which is helps with the pain in the morning. and so i take that as this clock in the morning i wake up thirty to take medications because. i do two hours to recover from second the medication and i go to have my pill container and i'm out of water in the mornings when i wake up i just open the pill bottle to take the pill drink the water may back down and that the side effects go through this nazia stomach pain tiredness everything that i go through just let it all go through enough to two hours i'm good.

data is that. even well treated even with the best drugs someone with a just going to live a shorter life than someone doesn't have aids and i you know i have a lot of friends on these drugs at this point both in africa and here and you know if they could go back and change that and live a life free of a trivium i know for certain that they would with thirteen percent of the population yet we have the highest rate of infection again it goes into not a single answer. if i look at how blood pressure what we've i looked at colon cancer where will we be if i look at breast cancer where will we be if i look at. it to one it is clear that the tremendous growth of hiv and aids in america's black community is driven by many factors yet no matter whom we spoke to physicians

clergy political leaders and those afflicted with the virus it was clear that the real culprits behind the epidemic are ignorance miscommunication and most importantly a collective silence about how it is transmitted what it means to live with hiv and its phenomenal spread across black america. if we sincerely want to help the spread of this virus this is a problem that frankly is substantially preventable if there were really good public health campaigns if people really focused on this problem you certainly should be able to have a lot less a trophy a lot less human suffering and you would and that would mean a lot less energy and resources both in better societal level but also personally trying to deal with it down the why would someone thirty seconds i was in london in the mid 1980's and you couldn't turn off the television without seeing the

commercial about age having a child be a child be you know can protect yourself be attested etc you know day after day after day after day after day after day after day and that's a public health education in my view that we have not hand at a level of intensity and public health education. and we still don't have a bill we are still talking about any increase in the number of cases and we need to talk more to people who other people trust in the communities like for example the hair salon the barber shop so we go there all the time we have conversations in there about everything you know so you know getting the right information into places like that places of worship getting the correct information that's a beer can can really help kind of hope this disease if they do think that. more conversation is better you don't necessarily need leadership from the church to push you really need is leadership from somebody right so while it happen to have

been the case in the community of the response there were the very fierce playwright larry kramer was a real leader in this conversation and in zimbabwe and in uganda in congo there were singers who were leaders in this conversations and other places or political leaders who didn't maybe could be almost anybody can write maybe somebody has to stand up and take this on it doesn't matter who it is it's just long as that person carries in his her system. kelly and i think what's going to eventually happen as far as in our community is that we need to start letting young people and even younger ones as people in general understand the power of their voice because eventually was going to happen is that. the new media is going to be the cell phone ok because as they see things put the video you know because now cell phones you could upload photos directly to youtube all these different things is that now they have the power to tell the story. as more people living with hiv step

forward to tell their stories we will no longer be able to ignore them and pretend we are safe the conversation must be taken to the schools inside the homes and throughout the community to eradicate the myths and fears that feed this preventable disease. today african-americans account for fifty percent of all new h i.v. infections every year unless we start talking to each other we will become dependent on drugs to live. with succeeding generation. start the conversation.

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that african. conflicts with my eyelids but nothing i would see districts knowledge to do so with no thesis how to travel across borders how legal how to look for water. did you get. the sense you never see no plan to can identify with the life he's business d.c. studios in the video begin. to kill this disease and it's significantly prevent from being ignored can feel when we have a little. different but we suffer the same should. seek to do. is the name of the gays because they're seeing.

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