it was. serious president warns of possible retribution after israel strongly hanes it was behind a cross border strike close to damascus. this spanish prime minister visits germany for e.u. budget talks a brief restraint from the economic crisis and corruption scandal engulfing him back home. in france carries out a series of as strikes in northwestern mali amid questions over the leadership and directional french president francois or longed. for russia and around the world this is also you with me hello and welcome to the

program president bashar assad says syria can take on any force that confronts it while accusing israel of trying to destabilize his country it was assad's first public statement since an alleged israeli airstrike inside syria last week israel's defense minister has given the strongest indication get that the i.d.f. was behind that time policy and how reports. it does come from the israeli defense minister a good bloke and he has said that it is proof that when israel says something it means that he did stop short of actually a third being israel's involvement now u.s. officials have said that the strike targeted an arms convoy that was carrying anti aircraft weapons from syria to lebanon according to the israeli defense minister ehud barak he said that we do not think and i'm quoting that syria should be allowed to bring advanced weapons systems into labor nominee it is important to make the point that his comments does not constitute acknowledgment of israel's

involvement in the strike but it certainly does suggest the possibility that it took place and it was responsible for it but also said that the syrian president bashar assad's fall is imminent and that it would serve as a major blow to his villa and iran need to look at this israeli strategy and it's a strategy that israel has employed in the past and that is namely a strategy of silence it is strategic it doesn't give any kind of confirmation or any kind of denial of what israel has done in the past as launch an attack then leave and it really its response has been a no comment which really leaves the question in observations minds it is a culture lated moves because this simons allows israel's enemies to save face and thus reduce the risk of reprisals and its collation against the jewish state of course the international for now for any kind of israeli strike in syria would create immense arguments in the international community we've heard for example from moscow who says that if indeed israel did carry out the strike it was an

attack on a sovereign state and as such it reached international law with the arab league has also condemned the strike saying it is in violation of international law and it is for all to against another sovereign state so israel of course will not want to come out publicly and acknowledge that it carried out such a strike because it would not want to have the kind of diplomatic complications and diplomatic fallout that would follow from such an admission of. middle east expert earlier risk assess the masters has covered means to retaliate against any israeli . for now i don't believe that there will be all out military warfare although we have to remember that. law is one of syria's allies iran is also one of syria's allies and it's important to note here that the the head of the supreme national security council the iranian supreme national security council side really is currently in syria so paid more not respond directly with the direct you know

conventional army to conventional army warfare but there might be other means used targeting for example so an israeli officials stirring the trouble for israel in general and i think that something that something would syria is an expert of doing syria has been on the side and the water on the his father has been a source of concern for a very long time for the israeli side of his role once before because this will basically break down the iranian possible loss syrian access which is the biggest threat to the not of your government. with another round of troops on the e.u. budget looming billie's over the bloke's strongest economies meeting the needs of the weakest then attempt to lay the groundwork for a new deal the german chancellor is hosting the spanish prime minister back home in madrid marianna rai's backing a corruption scandal and dials over his handling of the economy and she speaks only of reports now from berlin. it could very well be called

a meeting between the euro zone's haves and well quite frankly the have nots as german chancellor angela merkel sits down to talks with the spanish prime minister mariano what. germany still widely regarded as the euro zone's the only real success economically while as many fear that spain could go the way of greece now the spanish prime minister will receive the full welcome of germany including full military honors how are they if he was to turn up at the doorstep of many in his own country he may face severe criticism that's because many spanish citizens still think he hasn't done enough to deal with bankers the same basically the bearings are of this huge incredible feast run only by greed the government's not helping the people the topping the banks it has been at least thirty or fifty times in the last month that there was three people they were going to be if he doesn't

find out how it is but they hang themselves before the police were right there any of the lonely any i feel really sad when someone is thrown out because he has no one he can say carry him. this meeting between the leaders of germany and spain comes ahead of a very important summit taking place this week where european leaders will try and decide on the new budget something which is separated countries within the union thus far and economics professor at boston university laurence kotlikoff says the whole banking system needs to make china and become more transparent to heal the financial woes and he was sharing his opinion in the exclusive interview to a selfish of our nazi. occupy wall street was concerned about inequality and they were concerned about what wall street was actually doing and i think we need to radically change our financial system because we have two big problems and this is

true in every country including russia. the traditional banking system the model is one of very high leverage banks borrow a lot of money promised to repay and then there's opacity they take their money and they do something with it but they don't tell you what they're doing with it so it's a very unstable situation when you promise people things and then you don't show what you're doing with their money and then and that's what happened in lehman brothers and vera stearns and. merrill lynch and all these companies that one on one under one after the other everybody started worrying because they couldn't see the assets so what we need to do is. get rid of this faith based banking we need to have. no leverage and we have to have transparency.

and you can catch the full interview with economist laurence kotlikoff at a scene forty five jan t. him announcing are still ahead for you this. coming for a polygraph test now are guilty until proven innocent tens of thousands of americans are forced to undergo a polygraph test aimed at identifying national security risks i made allegations that beyond the norm. and also was done at stade ballet director of the bolshoi it says he says he knows who threw acid in his face severely damaging his eyesight the details on that in the minutes. for in trying to jazz have launched airstrikes on islamist militant targets in northeast mali as they took to secure the final rebel stronghold of k doubt it

comes as leading human rights groups call in paris to investigate allegations of torture extrajudicial killings and ethnic reprisal attacks during the three week campaign and also he takes a look at the reality is the modern people are facing in one area of the bottle ravaged country in this exclusive report but he's easily amused in this mob the area we've discovered allegations of the war crimes no information about them is under the control of mali's military government really meant becoming i think it's getting more and more difficult to talk to people. human rights activists who are trying to identify witnesses all saying that people. are feeling the heat they are scared to speak a lot of people here. are very few fool the malian army seems to be doing whatever it can to prevent people from speaking to open when i was there because this government took advantage of the media's interest in

a lawn and for the first time visited the city's worst affected by hostilities in the town of qana we were surprised by the arrival of mom i do see the. by the minister for humanitarian action of solidarity this was an attempt to bring the bomb a call government closer to the people who regard the capital as remote for them with this visit in this event staged by politicians coincided with the publication of reports by international organizations such as amnesty international and human rights watch alleging atrocities crimes and violence on both sides for instance in qana several civilians were reportedly killed in french air force shelling we tried to interview the injured however were unable to obtain evidence in a community that has until now been strictly regulated by the military authorities . the ministry says an investigation is underway so far no evidence has been provided so let the judicial system do its job at least government its

people and military are well aware of current events and we know that we cannot play this game. of the government has been attempting to assort political power despite very poor infrastructure today we spoke to an army private on his way back from gol he told us he hadn't been paid or even properly for. if this war continues there will be a need for justice after a comprehensive internal investigation rather than heartfelt celebrations and demonstrations of our. friend special forces have made while taking control of one of nisha as biggest iranian minds security is being tightened in the area following the hostage crisis in neighboring i would care to share as the world's fifth largest grainy and producer and among france's major supply has several french hostages are also believed to be held by militants in the north of mali the french troops are continuing their offensive against al qaeda linked in saturn's. president of france to made

a triumphant visits in mali to claim his victory and any political points it's made . braying needs all the help they can get because back in france they call them is bad and getting wise and there's also his memory it finished a reporter from paris many tout i wonder as the leader to turn it around. the world president on land is welcomed as a liberator in mali have to france's military operation against the islamists occupation back at home crowds are also gathered but with a starkly different mood where people are fired up over the continued decline of europe's second largest economy despite the president's promises to create at least one hundred thousand new jobs the nation is shedding them at an alarming rate last november about a thousand every day the worst figures in years the country's unemployment is approaching a shocking eleven percent with more than three million jobless the french daily

lives and claims that the exact situation could be even worse if official statistics included youngsters never registered for the unemployment program or those who left it and those stuck with part time work the paper says the rate would then triple but there are certain. people expected to have a strong president and they understand that alon doesn't have enough experience or competence to improve things he's too weak as we see from the fans who are so you know believes the strategic mistake was to rectify the e.u. so-called three percent treaty force in france to reduce its budget deficit down from four point five percent by hiking taxes and cutting spending. but while harsh criticism expected from the opposition disapprovals also been growing from like minded left wingers or complain but i think the president especially of a country like france one of sixty you foreigners should be strong enough to say stop to others and say hey i have my nation behind me and they elected me to make

changes instead he surrendered because he's worried about the country's debt and the ratings agencies make. in a short video french communists put together some of our lawns major presidential campaign vows none of which they say came true. but what that's all that if you know the value added tax increase. i think it's inappropriate and unjustified and unreasonable and too hasty. what happened to walk your that's to remind of present with you remember you promised to review the european treaty you didn't do that here in germany said a three percent deficit isn't real but now only say it's possible etc etc you can't not do what you promised meanwhile recent polls show a little rise in the fringes of breaking into four percent january december's forty percent the lowest since one state office in maine. every week that is

a new subject to discuss in the french media and to draw people's attention from the real problems like gay marriage or dipper jews are now molly this strategy may work but not for long. after a long one the french election last year some analysts described his victory as a victory against his predecessor song because he brought a very long and now they say many in the past to the team that should have never been a. bunch of belongs presidents who have been anything but sunny opponents and even his one staunch supporters predict even harder times lie ahead for the leader of the country's municipal elections in two thousand and fourteen have historically held great significance and will show whether the voters can forget and forgive. me for the team from paris. or some shocking stories on our website for you including how dead children have been used for spying in the u.k. for decades that's according for saying that british courts have been stating the

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way. this is all she coming to you live from moscow welcome back although scientists say lie detection is on a reliable in identifying national security risks more than seventy thousand americans a chair tested on them washington is promising to draw up a new national put a growth policy following allegations u.s. federal agencies are exceeding their legal and ethical limits to determine who can be trusted oh she's very important i talk to those who believe at point a graph is

a tool used to incriminates they're innocent. for more than three decades john sullivan worked as a polygraph examiner for america's central intelligence agency today the retired cia employee is offering some strong opinions about the nation's lie detector policy too many honest people are too many people who should be passing their tests aren't and i and there's no there's no accountability for that. last year more than seventy three thousand americans were reportedly required to undergo polygraph tests in order to get or keep jobs with the federal government according to an investigation by mcclatchy newspapers a growing number of u.s. agencies are asking employees and applicants intimate questions that extend way beyond the realm of national security probing matters such as sexual conduct financial matters and past personal relationships a woman was pressured to talk about her experience being molested as

a child and when the polar bear for said that he refused to go on with the interrogation he alleges that he was pressured to go back and continue and tara gating are a decade ago the national academies an organization advising washington on scientific matters urged the feds to stop using polygraphs as a screening technique scientists found that polygraphs aren't reliable enough to prevent innocent people from failing and deceptive candidates from passing i think it's important to understand that the polygraph is not just. for screening it's an interrogation tool. there's a question that they trip that leads to. the drilling down. question that they get asked may well be quite true over the past ten years. at least fifteen federal agencies

including the n.s.a. and f.b.i. have reportedly continued or expanded their polygraph screenings with nearly five million people having access to classified information or washington maintains that polygraph testing is the most effective way from preventing secrets from being leaked lisa ribicoff is an independent polygraph examiner and investigator who uses the polygraph program designed by homeland security she contends that it's ninety eight percent accurate i do think that there are some questions pertaining to some emotional aspects and personal situations should not be included but i do understand why they're included on the basis of that the government needs to see how exactly what their breaking point is what are they willing to discuss what are they not willing to discuss however applicants who are denied a coveted position after failing a polygraph are prohibited from accessing the records of their interrogation and

are often barred from contesting the results were filing complaints in federal court in two thousand and four the cia veteran who conducted lie detector interrogations for thirty one years failed his own screening there was absolutely no question in my mind the the test was wrong. was a terrible test sullivan lost his security clearance and was denied a job with a federal contracting agency he claims his examiner falsified the results possible retribution for sullivan book detailing america's polygraph system subs a come in for a polygraph test now are guilty until proven innocent and i think that's a. a corruption an abuse of the process the obama administration is now promising to draft a new national polygraph policy that would prevent agencies from pushing legal or ethical boundaries during screenings but at the moment the program has no oversight or accountability meaning tens of thousands of u.s. citizens will continue getting personally probes in the name of national security

bring up or not our team in new york. time now for some other stories from around the globe this hour in bahrain government forces have once again clashed with anti regime protesters in rural areas tear gas was used against the crowds hurling petrol bombs bahrain has suffered almost daily violence since an uprising began two years ago in a public call for greater freedoms from their monarchy authorities they're accused of oppression under severe quieted down on opposition activists allegedly illegally jailing and torturing some to keep them quiet. an egyptian man who was beaten naked in the streets of cairo during demonstrations on friday says the riot police are to blame he has previously accused opposition protesters of being behind the tide footage of her large suburbs treatment at the hands of uniformed officers all shown on state t.v. you further infuriating the crowds storming the presidential palace willing to present motive to quit the. u.s.

and south korean military forces have started war games in the east china sea they will last three days with salt deploying turned water it's and antisubmarine aircraft able to intercept the north call but vessels exercises come amid rising tension in the region and are seen as a warning to be young young which is planning a third nuclear test in protest of international sanctions imposed after the last one. the health of venezuela's president hugo chavez is considerably improving last he recovers from cancer surgery in cuba that's according to the national assembly speaker who recently visited him in hospital travers has not been seen publicly since mid december when he suffered a risky rhetorical good cations following the operation in havana and he should have been a recent warning as president last month but missed the inauguration ceremony promising and prompting the opposition to demand new elections which. the artistic director of moscow's world renowned bolshoi ballet's says he knows

exactly who was behind the acid that's hot which badly damaged his face sergei filin will be flown out to germany in a few hours' time as doctors try to save his eyesight or he's sure thomas has more . it certainly is a strange and bizarre story under exposing the deep and dark underbelly of the world of ballet if you believe it or not a feeling has the artistic director says he doesn't know exactly who did it he says he's certain he knows but he won't say anything until the police have released their statement regarding the situation and have made an official announcement a little bit about the attack that actually happened about two weeks ago sergei filin was coming from his car to his home here in moscow where an unknown assailant splashed acid in his face. then suffered from third degree burns in his eyes has undergone the multiple surgeries in fact he will be going to germany for further treatment but about the investigation itself while he won't say

exactly who did it even though he says he knows he says he is certain that it is to ruin his reputation and of the reputation of the ball soit theatre in an interview listen to what he had to say about the investigation itself. so all i can say is that i'm amazed by the amount of effort they've put into the investigation i think in the future get the answers we're looking for. but do your own suspicions match the facts that will voiced by the police. are you afraid to come back to the bolshoi. for one main reason i still don't feel that i have ever left now ballet believe it or not is notorious for having this jealous dark side to it dancers and artistic directors thinking that they should have their way of the artistic direction of the community in fact. just reopening after a six year long multimillion dollar renovation feeling being the artistic director

ever since that renovation took place a lot of people who are not happy with the direction it has taken in fact actually an entire movie was made about this jealous side if you recall the black swan about dancers not liking. the parts that they're getting are doing anything that they could take to go and get the parts that they need so one thing about the bolshoi itself though still a lot of good to know who is one of the prima ballerina is all of this a great stage she has fled to canada and they are saying that she has received threats also not sure that they're connected but it's talks about what's going on behind the scenes at the bolshoi. on her back with the news in about half an hour for you up next it's basically about and is a gas song about same sex marriages in cross-talk.

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it is it a universal human right. is this debate about equality and discrimination and what about the issues of religion. cross-talk same sex marriages i'm joined by peter tatchell in london he is a human rights campaigner and director of the peter tatchell foundation in the hall we have godfrey bloom he is a member of the european parliament and a member of the u.k. independence party and in washington we cross to thomas peters he is the

communications director for the national organization for marriage gentlemen cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want thomas if i go do you want in washington first how do you define a marriage well i define marriage like the vast majority of human history societies and cultures the marriages the unique bonding of a man and woman for the proper raising of children the next generation and it's very close and saying ok peter in london give it a shot what's your definition of marriage go ahead i think marriage is a ball and of love and commitment between any two people and they could be opposite six or same sex and indeed in britain until nine hundred seventy one there was no ban on gay marriage so the ballot in britain is a very recent invention godfrey go ahead and. very much agree with us in washington i don't think i could improve upon that definition of marriage ok thomas what about your union civil unions isn't that enough for gay people gay people say it isn't but what do you think well i think it's very interesting why i

think it's very interesting that the cost of civil unions were considered for a time to be a compromise that both sides can agree on and it's really the pro gay marriage advocates that that every move that common ground and so now we have a false choice between either redefining marriage or not legally recognizing other types of unions and so you know for one i'd be interested in looking at legal protections for gay people absolutely but redefining marriage is not the best way to do it and sadly i would say i would i would offer that it's the other side that it's remove that compromise position ok peter in london how would you respond to that well. to me love is very important and it is a social good and when people love each other that's something society should validate if you believe in marriage then you should welcome the fact that gay people want to get married because it's good for the individuals and the couple involved it's also good for society because people who are married who make that commitment tend to be happy and healthy and if they have children those children

grow up in a stable environment so gay marriage is good for people who support family values godfrey family values. i don't know that's completely wrong in my view this move is totally i'm i'm a libertarian my party is libertarian and this is a totally libertarian move it's also democratic and i'm afraid i can only speak for the united kingdom on this one but i'm already under pressure from my constituents and members of my party who are saying just a minute this is gone too far we believe should be civil partnerships we believe that homosexual couples should be protected and they should be enter into whatever situation they feel is appropriate but marriage is not for them marriage is for between a man and a woman and it has been so since the beginning of time. ok peter since the meaning

of the time not quite right because that's not quite right because of course throughout history there's been many different definitions and varieties of marriage even today in many countries polygamous marriages are lawful where a man can take several wives in the past we had child brides where the church authorized older men to marry young girls aged twelve thirteen and fourteen for many years divorce was banned but that's been the board eyes so marriage has changed over the generations and centuries and i think it's right and proper that it should do so again because in a democratic society one of the fundamental principles is that everyone should be equal before the law and allowing gay people this is your democratic is a matter of a course of democratic control continue go ahead god forbid this is going to britain support it godfrey go ahead jeffrey. the british government

the british government has absolutely no democratic mandate for this this was not in any of the manifestoes at all but of course what actually happens is now the united kingdom doesn't govern itself. the final court of appeal is the european court of human rights in strasbourg so they cannot they can move with any protection that this government offices to people who do not want to be priests and the moms and the rabbis who do not want to marry same sex couples can be taken to the european court of human rights and it will be overturned so this is not libertarian this is not democratic this is old a graphic i'm totalitarian peter you want to reply to that because you're shaking your head with respect with respect you're wrong because all the major opinion polls have taken place in britain show between sixty one and seventy two percent of the public supports equal marriage such as the rights of gay people to get married

even people of faith in britain fifty eight percent support gay marriage plus the government did say before i don't those at all should never be trying to get just by going to. now no i mean go ahead jump in washington thomas go ahead go ahead if that were true peter if that were true peter then then then cameron should be urging a public vote on marriage as the people of france a million people in france and paris turned out a couple weeks ago demanding precisely that from holland a chance to vote on marriage and so whenever gay marriage advocates say all the people support it the last thing they ever want to do is actually let the people decide in america that's what organization is founded upon and thirty five thirty times out of thirty four people have voted to protect marriage the vast majority of americans have voted to protect marriage even as public polling will claim that majority of people support gay marriage what's actually happening is that people are scared to say what their personal beliefs are on marriage and given the privacy of the voting booth when given the tools of democracy they always and consistently voted to protect marriage in the vast majority of cases and so i really think that

the opinion polls don't matter the only poll that matters are free and fair vote of the people peter would you like to apply to that would you say would you would you would you be prepared to put up a vote where the black people should have equal rights whether muslims or jews should have equal rights of course not. this is a human rights principle the united nations you know if you change the subject you strange it's not surprising that your civilian poll everyone to marry found your human evil or widower than i do you exceptions to any yes or anybody else united nations decoration enshrined the principle that everyone should have a right to marry and if gay people marry it does not diminish heterosexual marriages one and heterosexual marriages remain intact they continue you're just adding to marriage will come i always get one question thing godfrey jump in go ahead no i was going home it's going to last it's going to like us ago. there was there was a couple this is happening all the time that comes across my desk but only last year a christian couple who have a bed and breakfast house do not believe that they should give bed and breakfast

accommodation to married couples or homosexual couples and that was a deeply held christian belief they were held in contempt of the qualities that some of find three thousand pounds there's nothing liberal about this there's nothing the libertarian about this we are now in a situation in the united kingdom where you cannot say who or who not you will have in your house this is appalling this is going to fall on another christian said before before christmas he thought that this gay marriage was a step too far and he lost his job this is a disgrace let's all wake up to the reality ok thomas he wanted to say something earlier responding to peter in london go ahead what i want to say to you that's right i want to say two things first i want to go back to peter's historical arguments against marriage saying that marriage has changed over time you hear this a lot from gay marriage advocates and i think actually it proves our point it's

true that over time different societies and cultures have experimented with marriage experimented with like how early marriage can be again experiment with how many people can be in a marriage and all the experiments have failed except for the. bonding of one man and one woman and i think that history will show us that gay marriage was also an experiment that was ultimately found wanting and here's why if you look at it if gay marriage is such a wonderful idea why does it always have to hide behind power and privilege to push its way gay marriage is not being demanded by a huge upswing of the populace the populace as of france of the u.k. of america are all demanding to protect traditional marriage gay marriage is purely receiving its victories for these very high corridors of power through like the european high court etc etc and i mean that's not a democratic process and if gay marriage needs to be so close to power to succeed that's not ultimately idea the cultures will accept ok fair time peter in london go ahead. the idea that gay people are some incredibly powerful lobby is absurd we in britain and the united states and many other countries have suffered decades and

centuries of persecution and discrimination we are marginalized often victimized minority thankfully some societies including fall flung societies like south africa and argentina now recognize that gay discrimination is morally ethically wrong that in a democracy every one should be cool to go back to godfrey's point the important thing is fundamentally that people should have a right to choose to get married if they wish that's not totalitarian doesn't take away anybody else's rights it actually adds to and strengthens marriage and in this argument must constantly remind ourselves this issue is about love to men or to woman who love each other and their love is just as real and just as valid as that between heterosexual men and women and we should be thankful for it we should accept it we should you god was able to give a quality in the godfrey you get

a lot before the break oh shit i think it's just another go to well let me go to hall first before we go to the break go ahead godfrey go ahead i haven't had my question answered by peter tatchell does he believe that christian loving married couple should be able to decide who comes into the household no they were fined three thousand pounds when just paid to tell carol that's the question please yes i don't know. peter go ahead i'll answer the question you raise to which one was the fact that the christian man who was he wasn't didn't lose his job you suspended and then did motored over so he opposed same sex marriage i supported that and defending that christians right to hold his point of view i opposed the suspension with regard to the bed and breakfast cup which is really off topic but anyway they were offering a public service so it is and if you offer a public service in britain they were offering a public sorry gentlemen a bad british obligation here we go to a short break and go to

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welcome back to all things considered i'm. talking about same sex marriages. ok i'd like to go back to thomas and washington what kind of social good or positive value does gay marriage have for society if at all in your opinion well. for gay marriage well i don't see any because they don't believe that gay marriage exists and here's why it let's go back to love the proponent of gay marriage saying love is love is love but the fact is that there's a difference between the love of two men and love the man woman the difference being that the love of a man and a woman in most cases and with a child and the child needs a mother to father a child for its entire biological life will need to be raised and will be raised best by its mother and father and so you know that's why it's absurd to claim there's something ethically wrong with seeing the love between a man or woman as being unique that's what that that's what the core of marriage is

it's not it's not a valuation of one love versus the other it's saying that different loves result in different things and that's why the vast majority of people will experience love it heterosexually and will have a child and that child will need a mother and father and all the social science shows that children do best when they're raised by their biological mother and father and so marriage just isn't about the emotional needs of adults it's about what the actual practical emotional psychological social needs of children and that's why well you can experiment with marriage for a few years generationally only a healthy society that understands this core viewing of like what love actually means is a successful society ok peter that was a very succinct answer going to have that's how i view it to tell him we have we are told we have a live in countries in the world that have legalized same sex marriage plus many other provinces and states there has been no collapse of civilization life continues heterosexual people are not diminished or damaged or harmed in any way

you know those loving relationships. just as solid as heterosexual ones on the issue of children. here you know we just you can lay out a bunch of guys but most not it's way too soon to know there's a there's a there's one hundred eighty six men without a civil you're just children if you are fostered by a mother and a father. well you yourself said we didn't have to hurry but i got my marriage cattle and i don't have insurance it was unthinkable before then. most of us are very interesting just don't forget it will tells us so let me finish let me finish go ahead peter go ahead and let me finish yes and be endlessly people when you most gay couples can you stop interrupting please don't be so rude. most gay couples do not have children so the argument about children doesn't apply moreover many heterosexual couples either choose not to have children or are infertile and we do not deny them the right to get married we say that their marriages even if they're

found to have no prospect of having children are just as valid as any other marriage so applying those principles really honestly you shouldn't object to gay people getting married godfrey and whole jump in well i don't think the logistics of the legal to just fix have been thought through where does this end i've already mentioned that i wasn't off message i do believe in a libertarian society it's important who you can who you want to have in your house or not it shouldn't be the role of the state if same sex if you have same sex marriage what about into family marriage does that mean the incest taboo is now broken where does this actually end the lie still don't understand that i don't think peter tatchell has made his case for what he feels that he's not getting out of us recognize civil partnership that he would get out of marriage marriage is for men and women and has been since time immemorial it isn't your institue.