tv [untitled] February 8, 2013 10:30pm-11:00pm EST
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well give me your take my take a lie the phone lines are now open so if you want to share an opinion make a comment ask a question to me or any of our rubble gas give us a call or two or two nine zero four twenty one thirty four our first caller the night is carol in late l e i j h is that lane. and i actually ok. i mean overt born here but i went after or to a point to pennsylvania ok so what's your question or your comment my comment to you and and i would say in new york in a cab no shop on their bill right then i did
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a quick fix feeling for you you know and we did all of your engine or we were cheaper than theirs and then. yeah and then and now it's at nineteen fifty i started so i started my own business there were two guys tried it before me and it couldn't make up but i heard you and your new guy and i could beat anybody who's price shish. an eight year old or had my interrupting you but i kind of like to get to is your point that union labor is a good thing in that order can you make your point. or question. ok so that's that's about it carol thank you very much i mean you know unions are really a part of america chris you know and they should be able to exist but they shouldn't be able to force people to join and force people to take part of their paychecks to fund parts that they don't agree with. absolutely i mean terry associations
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nobody nobody has houses anybody you know anon right to work states they didn't know you could you know that that you're in the union but you don't have to work you don't have to join a union and you can can you keep your job you just have to pay the dues for the work that the union does on your behalf that's all and you don't have to join a union there's not a state or any pedicle activity yet you don't have to pay for it yet according to your be hands free felons are going i don't not have examples i don't know you on every oh i can tell you i was just chief of staff utility workers we kept a running list of of the people who objected to political activities under the back statute we had to and those dues were i'm sorry that part of their fee was returned and that's that's the law and that's not right to work for less states right to work its course you know it's about right i mean his politics. his point
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is just said the training is so much better and people tim because the wages are better and the benefits are better people tend to make a career in a you know work forty years union too and i shot her in dyersville iowa take her you know and talk about the boy scouts. yes go ahead you're on the air. in the usa to do it for. twelve years ago there was an article about it and learn. how to homosexuals wanted to lower the consent age down to twelve years old who were murdered thanks a lot to the call but it's like you know the whole as as as story was saying earlier these these attempts to conflate homosexuality and pedophilia are not just . morally wrong and and stupid is not quite the right word but me i mean. but there's that but they are stupid i mean they're just you know
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they're factually incorrect just we're not going to go there gregory in sherman oaks california gregory what's on your much below hello tom the proposed to global financial transactions micro towns a vitally important reform that is best known these days is the robin hood. i think would be much better promoted with the name easy to access at least in the united states and it's easy because this really would be the easiest to collect virtually automatic and only collected the most painless. and productive tax possible. the most socially and environmentally productive so on chablis do it and him for the suggested name and i bet it's a great name and thanks for the point gregory mark what he's talking about is what we used to call the stat tax the securities transaction excise tax it was put into place in the united states in one thousand nine hundred sixty help pay for the spanish-american war it stood until one thousand nine hundred sixty four it was
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actually doubled in one nine hundred thirty five by f.d.r. to pay for the s. and c. and the reason that they dumped it in sixty four was because it was generated so much more money than the cost to run some bright person congress said let's get rid of this and it was you know a tenth of one percent on every stock transaction and it's kept the stock market kind of moving nice and easy but now we've got these guys who are making a fortune doing a million trades a microsecond and it's destabilizing our system i'm curious with your take on it's not a big fan of it first of all you're talking about taxing without any profit you're talking about just taxing to be in a market that's equal in a sales tax what is the equivalent of a sales tax but is to use a market any time you start to tax a market you start you can start to manipulate the market you know is there is a way that it isn't i mean we're paying for that market i understand well the market in some we all suffered when that market crash we did but you're talking about a transactional tax that my opinion has the potential in the aggregate to take into that market i mean i believe in the market free. i don't think you attach
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a tax just to be in the market if you haven't i don't mean capital gains taxes out of control this is not a free market this is a market that is established by government stock markets are regulated by government if they weren't regulated by government it would be like like we were talking earlier the derivatives market which was not regulated by anybody and that's why it went from zero in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine hundred trillion dollars and then in two thousand and eight you know there's aspects of it that are regulated some degree there so it's very much over regulated but the problem here is you're still talking about i think you do you can start to impact the way people act in a market even this market by so you're opposed to the system ok stuart is absolutely most of the european union is just put as it unless i'm absolutely for the transaction tax i think it's necessary i think it's important it's clearly not an impediment it's so small it's not an impediment to the market in any way and frankly i have personal experience with close friends who have tried to bet against those computers and there's a lot of people who are being hurt. on this day trading kind of
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a deal and you said you know i'm going to be a christian leader i don't know too much about it but my gut reaction to this is. what we actually want is more individuals in the markets then some of these big things and if you're taxing it aren't you keeping out the people who might actually be prevented from doing it is the market this tax is so small that if you're if you've got one hundred thousand bucks in an ira and you roll it over once or twice a year you might spend ten dollars but if you're doing one hundred billion dollars in trades a day like some of these big banks are where they're just skimming a billion dollars off the top then it becomes a couple million dollars and at that point they've got to seriously start thinking but in any case what will in milwaukee how we ate how you're on the air what's up. at the lady on the panel i didn't get a. she said something about how. it would be to tax
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a drug you know legalizing it that the drugs or the i think it's a made to order thing. to all the quality. you know instead of having to buy remotes at rochel. it would be a whole lot better as a former drug user myself and i do believe former. that it would be a win win to be revenue for our infrastructure it would also be. the people who are incarcerated now for these crappy marijuana laws. what they'd rather what they had rather do. i get your point and yes i just want to say to howie and everybody else i didn't mean that we shouldn't tax it i just said as the motivation for legalization that the government can make money on it shouldn't be the only motivation for legalization of a policy it should be good public policy first but this idea that hey let's
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legalize it so we can tax it now we should have good solid public policy reasons for for legalizing it but if we're going to we have to have nationalized and regulated that means that there's going to be some costs associated with that at the very least it's not inappropriate or cover those costs or something called a tax right now when if we want to discourage it the way we do i mean yes we tax cigarettes and alcohol but we certainly are trying to discourage cigarette use through astronomically high taxes so you know isn't the drug use going to be the same thing are we going to tax it to the max or not well i'm not going without a lot of jack in philly hey jack you got some thoughts on collective bargaining. oh yeah sure try out here i just like to do what everybody know what they are going to . try to. reach be able to get a half decent player we used to use wages rise. the straighter we show you i mean if it does i can't see you i can't see there. trying to make you
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know right to work state yeah jack thanks for that thanks for the point stuart one of the stats that i always used my dad actually told me this but i seen it petered other other places is that whatever the union wage is about an equivalent number of workers of twenty percent of the people in the city have a union wage forty percent of all the workers in the city are making the union or are union members forty percent get the union wage isn't it about one hundred percent more but see why it's there but it's also you know though those wages go into a local economy they go into retail sales they go into. the school tax they go into places of worship time i mean the more money that you know he said they are going to get are made here is for workers making more money which is right a different argument so stephen in los angeles steve you want to talk about violence. yes and i want to challenge the notion that. it's causes
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actually. rather i think it is the. genes that's causing both and the little bones you know how would we actually. know that for that energy and if you take you if you censor film violence you have more of the actual. thank you steve anybody have any thoughts i don't disagree with him that there's something weird about the gestalt there's i guess the spirit of the times but you know i think i think the film via violence absolutely leads to real violence now i'm not for censoring the film industry but i think as citizens we all have an obligation because what is advertising advertising is based on the belief that what you see will make you act a certain way well. you know they are. if you get you know if you see that juicy big mac makes you want one and we've all seen the yummy chorus of oh i want that so
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why do you have any die makes you want to kill people watching someone die actually puts that idea in your head where maybe you never had that thought before it seems normal it happens all the time i mean come on that's what advertisement is i don't know ok i don't disagree with you i mean you know. these video games are created by the military to teach soldiers out to kill but do you think that's one percent or eighty percent of the problem we have twenty seconds or anybody else want to join i just like to say that i'm not a fan of violence in movies and i don't i don't like i watch walked out of a few right i have to but i will say that it one case it is very good and that is in django unchained parenting you know what he showed all the horror he dial that very considerably i mean he tried in one movie to show all the barbarism slavery and i think that all if you haven't seen django unchained do it ok that's it for your take my take a lot of thanks to chris mark stuart and for you for your calls when you get your
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now millions of americans across the northeast are experiencing the effects of winter storm which some are describing as having the potential to be a an historic and unprecedented winter storm much of the northeast is expecting to see snowfall amounts anywhere from three to twenty four inches and some localized areas could see as much as three feet of snow and along with that day allusion of snow this winter whopper is packing very high winds some reaching hurricane force lately it seems like monsters snowmageddon like storms are becoming the norm during winter here in the northeast or actually we're sort of south of that but in use
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course we all remember the devastating impact that hurricane sandy had on the region was a few short months ago so what are americans in the northeast in store for this weekend as winter storm neemo yet another a minder of the devastating effects of climate change and joining me now is dr brenda exports all climate scientists with the union of concerned scientists dr ect ect wurzel thank you for joining us tonight so what is a based on what you're seeing and hearing is normal an anomaly is this the new normal what's going on here well nor'easters have long battered the new england region what scientists are looking at are the underlying conditions that have shifted because of climate change for example with this winter storm what we see is an arctic blast of air colliding with the north north atlantic more and more air and those. those waters of the north atlantic stretching from new jersey to massachusetts are unseasonably warm and that adds massive amounts of water moisture
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to the atmosphere and heat and that can power very intense rain or snowfall amounts ok is and that's why and that's presumably why neemo is so particularly strong there and it could be a record breaker for boston region especially some of the last heavy heavy snows are really at risk of the power infrastructure roof collapsing and so we are really really fortunate with these good forecasts people can stay at home and stay safe we have a graph of the frequency of these severe weather so weather events it's showing on the screen right now you've seen this really out of it sure looks to me i mean this goes back to nine hundred thirty it sure looks to me like we're looking at not just a trend but literally a new the new normal a phrase they used earlier. is that possible is that the facts as it appears to be and b.
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how much worse than this is going to go shore well hot off the presses a draft national climate assessment was released for public comment a few weeks ago and in there it has a disturbing figure about the northeast region has seen the increase between one thousand nine hundred fifty eight and two thousand and eleven of the heaviest rain or snow fall vents that about seventy four percent higher amounts of precipitation are falling in the northeast region and that's the part of the u.s. that's seen the most the second region that's seeing the most heaviest increase in these events are in the midwest you know meanwhile parts of the united states are literally on fire they're experiencing drought and is is all of this the the consequence of climate change and can we expected to search shifting around and moving around or are we seeing things that you for example. so the ocean waters are warm and so we can say with some reasonable probability that that's going to
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continue over the next decades you know in the lifetime of the next generation certainly and what we're seeing right now will just see amplified or is it just going to go yes you're absolutely right that the models that scientists are looking at where we can do lots of atmospheres and do lots of tests and what is shown is that in general the web is are expected to get wetter and the dry places are expected to get drier which means the extremes are something that our current infrastructure and how we've planned our societies and our civilizations we have to get better preparing for these climate extremes right what about those places the seam you know here we are in the midwest and in the east coast there's a lot of land mass for a lot of air to interact with what about the like the pacific northwest of the west coast of the united states there's just that giant atlantic ocean out there which is weather wise kind of a giant desert while they're going to the western u.s. a c. in a lot of change too there's recent research that i was seeing at the american be
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a logical society in january which showing the return of vents of some of the extreme heat waves in the western u.s. are many more times likely to occur because of climate change and so the risk of these extreme heat events and ironically in the winter these intense blizzards and snowstorms is also expected with climate change is there a. linear relationship or a measurable relationship between carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere and these countries transit whether it's we do see a clear link between the he trapping emissions from coal fired power plants burning down trees in the tropical forests and the warming planet and the warming planet is leading to this wacky extreme events so so really it's global weirding i mean it's it's it's people say oh there's no climate change it's. knowing you know this is actually proof of global climate change or at least a symptom of it was absolutely heavy heavy snowfall is is completely consistent
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with after i mentioned thanks so much for being with us thank you much appreciate. something interesting is happening in australia new study by the research firm bloomberg new energy finance is found that unsubsidized renewable energy is now cheaper than fossil fuels like coal and gas in australia in fact it's a lot cheaper day to show that wind farms in australia unsubsidized no subsidies can produce energy at about eighty million eighty dollars per megawatt meanwhile coal plants are producing energy at one hundred forty three dollars a megawatt and gas at one hundred sixteen dollars
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a megawatt unlike the united states where energy companies can pollute and have the costs for illnesses to environmental degradation picked up by the tax payers australia has a carbon tax which partially explains why renewables have a price advantage but the data shows that even without the cost of the carbon tax factored in wind energy is still fourteen cents cheaper than coal and eighteen cents cheaper than gas and this is in a nation australia that relies more heavily on coal than any other industrialized nation in the world. and that coal reliance is going to soon change as companies in australia are wittily adopting new and cheaper renewable energies as the study found banks and lending institutions here's a clue in australia are now less and less likely to finance new coal plants by because they've become a bad investment. and while australian wind is cheapest now by two thousand and
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twenty and maybe sooner solar power will also be cheaper than coal and gas in australia. the energy game is rapidly changing in that country michael brick the chief executive of bloomberg new energy finance noted the perception that fossil fuels are cheap and renewables are expensive is now out of date well here's a news flash that perception has been out of date for a while now even here in the united states according to the energy information administration looking ahead to two thousand and sixteen natural gas is the cheapest energy in the united states at roughly sixty six dollars a megawatt coal comes in second ninety four dollars a megawatt or right behind coal and renewal is renewable wind at ninety seven dollars a megawatt which in the larger part accounts for why us wind energy production has tripled just since two thousand and unlike in australia none of those u.s.
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prices account for the extra maladies the costs associated with fossil fuels like pollution and cancers asthma is military protection global warming. in america the fossil fuel industries made sure that those extra maladies are not paid for by the coal and gas energy producers who. are paid for by you and me. fossil fuel industry doesn't pay a penny for the cost of a rapidly accelerating climb and degrading climate or climate change or the health care costs or exhaust refinery driven diseases and deaths from air or water and other kinds of pollution not to mention the community costs of decreasing property values when a coal plant is put in your backyard. they don't pay a penny toward the cost of our navy keeping the oil shipping lanes open or our soldiers protecting the countries that produce all that oil. all of these externalities that come with fossil fuel production pretty much don't exist with
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the renewable energy production. and those extra now those extra costs are not only paid for by the not paid for by the fossil fuel industry they're never even mentioned in the corporate run news media in america. research from the annals of the new york academy of sciences concludes that the total cost of these extra nowadays if paid by the polluters themselves would raise us fossil fuel prices by as much as three dollars a megawatt and that's an extremely conservative estimate. which puts wind power on parity with coal in the united states trend lines are pretty clear buggy wave weapon meet automobile renewables are getting cheaper and fossil fuels are getting more expensive which is why we as a nation need to throw everything we have at making renewable energies our primary
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way of power in america into the twenty first century think of it as a new manhattan project that project to build a nuclear bomb super faster and world war two we need green energy local energy and a twenty first century smart grid to handle it all over time the marketplace would do this for us but we're just about every other developed country in the world ahead of us and our dependence on oil making us more and more tightly bound to middle eastern dictators and radicals to wait and hope the big transnational corporations are going to help birth a new america is both naive and stupid. instead of depending upon them. we should be recovering from them the cost of those extra maladies because of the sicknesses in the military the whole thing with a carbon tax it can be used to build a new energy infrastructure right here in the united states let's take
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a lesson from australia and the eurozone which have both set up carbon taxes to make nineteenth century energy barons pay for at least some of the damage that they've done and then let's use the revenues from that carbon tax for a green energy revolution right here in the united states considering the threats of disease climate change and war only an idiot or a fossil fuel billionaire like charles or david koch would want us to bring in more oil with a pipeline or take any other steps to continue america's dependence on dirty and costly nineteenth century fuels. and that's the way it is tonight friday feb eighth twenty thirty for more information check out our website thom hartmann dot com free speech dot org. and hulu dot com slash big picture and don't forget democracy begins with you it's not
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