and i would have to take basic facts france has been doing a three week operation a counter terrorist operation it is not a stab releasing operation. a few days ago our minister of french minister from affairs of abuse centers france once the mission is accomplished and there is a debate of what is the mission are we going to stop where once the major northern cities are liberated as go to jail and to move to has been in the in the past days or are we going to pass the. the mission to other actors and this is exactly what we're going to do again who has in mind the schedule normally the words jew to intervene in next september we were obliged to intervene because no one at the military capability to stop the two thousand. armed jihadists column which was heading from from

from the north from the north to more and maybe to bamako or elsewhere book enough or so or western part of new year and do have in mind that now we are into legit to make it legal intervention and this is precisely the fact why we are calling for a united nation why france is calling for united nations mission observation observer to be mission if france had been underneath agenda then we would do like we have done in the recent years and of course as an analyst i have to say that there is a shift in the nature of the. operations we do not have any more defense agreements we have shared such a partnership with francophone countries and with other countries which which which we did not have contacts i will take the example of nigeria. we are training. a

patrol in order to enhance a more secure area in the gulf of guinea ok well military training doesn't always work out we saw that with molly i tell if i can ask you i mean do you see the militarization of africa i mean not in states the united states is arming and training a lot of armies on the continent is this worrying. well i think you know why is that the united states is not taking a leadership and unfortunately you have a president well it can only in so many countries at a time. he's very he's very good in making speeches and the big bow is that when it comes to action it's zero. people especially on the left the use of the law of make fun of president bush at least it was decisive. from obama we have not seen the leadership when it actually came to libya and gadhafi and his sons with threatening to slaughter people from house to house and i

mean libya didn't work out too well french still hasn't worked out very well and listen i'm going to french actually action not american action american skin didn't give logistics and i wish i wish the americans with some kind of leadership because what we will be as it is the french action the french do not have the capability to actually sustain a long jump in there and it could be counterproductive yes the people of mali out applauding them and so on but the need finance and logistics support we don't want public opinion or funds to turn against operation so you need some kind of international force and the only history has proved with american leadership and this kind of intervention it doesn't quite work well therefore why don't we go into the how do you define the mission well how do you define what works well of the african union backing from the united go ahead jump in does advocate need more or less interventions. africa needs. support

where the mattis and i think i have to say that france ought to be congratulated for intervening on the tenth of january but part of it also it's because of the guilty complex on the back of the intervention in libya which actually caused a spillover of turkey's groups into mali itself. so i think that we need to sort of come to a situation where the union resolutions will be able to co-opt both international international support to to actually mitigate the whole civilian problem i mean just before the coup in march two thousand and twelve and with the whole international body has actually met in bamako to put together a package of humanitarian economic and military package for the whole problem and a quitter up to it so i think that it will be

a good idea to get back on track on those terms and whilst the un is currently putting for putting together a resolution to take forward a military operation to secure the territorial integrity of mali i think that of the parties before the coup need to also come together on track to to to put together the whole package that will solve the problem. across mollies monies neighbors as well. so we'll have to wait and see you know the true role that dates national community i'm talking about africa equalize the u.n. security council france of course the us i mean we're aware that the u.s. now wants to have a drone base. in we are also aware that there is of those already a drone base in work in africa so i mean i mean. joe i'm going to give you the last word in our program is that good now american drones are going to africa is a good. time adel going to draw. from from from

a tactical point of view sort of better making human errors because. pilots are humans after all it's them i actually drove the road anyway was groans you're going to have these fears are going to be ok man you well i have you know we still have thirty seconds so many well go ahead you wanted to say something please do. just remind everyone that africa is not ok to do nothing but the strategy of the americans and they have this capability i'll say that ever as you mention competence the noble was trained by the americans not by the french i have to put that clearly in mind of the spectators is having a dual point of view concerning all right i wish we had another half an hour gentlemen we've run out of time many thanks today to my guests in london and in paris and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are t. see you next time and remember cross talk rules.

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