tv [untitled] February 13, 2013 10:30pm-11:00pm EST
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subliming. last night president obama laid out his agenda for his second term the state of the union speech set some ambitious goals to get our nation back on a progressive course the list included executive action on climate change a fix of first program to invest in infrastructure and job creation and a legal pathway to citizenship for the eleven million estimated undocumented in the individuals living in the united states president is also calling for making a high quality early education available all children and called on congress to bring gun legislation to
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a vote but perhaps the biggest news of the evening was obama's call for an increase in the federal minimum wage to nine dollars an hour and to peg it to inflation so the republicans play ball well what they do what they've been doing for the last four years which is look out for the billionaire class and try to crash the economy to make the president look bad it's time to rumble. it's wednesday ready to rumble joining us for its allies alone liberal rabble derek khan a conservative columnist and policy expert and neil mccabe senior writer with human events online editor guns and patriots welcome to you both good to be with you tom to this issue so the most noticed were the most noteworthy part of the speech last night was the president's call to raise the minimum wage take a look at those. we know our economy stronger when we reward an honest day's work with honest wages but today
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a full time worker making the minimum wage earns fourteen thousand five hundred dollars a year even with the tax relief we put in place. a family with two kids that earns the minimum wage still lives below the poverty line that's wrong tonight let's declare that in the wealthiest nation on earth no one who works full time should have to live in poverty and raise the federal minimum wage to nine dollars an hour so here's an idea that governor romney and i actually agreed on last year. let's tie the minimum wage to the cost of living so that it finally becomes a wage you can live on. so derrick what's wrong with this you know if the minimum wage had been tied to the to the it had been indexed to inflation in one nine hundred sixty or sixty one it would be ten dollars twenty five cents right now and and you wouldn't have as many people living in poverty instead of having the government be in pain people with medicare and unemployment and food stamps people
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would be paying the government with taxes. who wouldn't that be nice if that were true you have a new you've got a supposition is highly problematic they did that there'd be less people in poverty is really quite erroneous it was the case that ninety six well just because of higher minimum wage doesn't mean that we have less people in poverty in fact quite the opposite we know that when you have the room wage at our current level we're losing jobs overseas particularly to mexico and the idea of increasing your suggestion that we should lower our wages to the mexican minimum wage of a dollar fifty an hour i'm suggesting that the federal government shouldn't be involved in contract arrangements between an employee and their employer and we should recognize that when the federal government is involved they create really perverse incentives and they move labor over one one time and one over. on one of us experience. i think if you want a corporation on a corporation when you go to the government you say i want to incorporate they say
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we're going to give you a set of privileges right we're going to give you the ability to duck your meals and your travel and all kinds of cool stuff you can do liability from from the losses you know you. we the government are going to give you all these benefits access to the courts paid for by the people all the stuff i read or they recognize reign of preexisting government in exchange well no i was that's that's of a philosophical argument that we can get on that if you want ok but yeah i would say government preexisted those but in any case there is this as society but but in any case we say we're going to give you these benefits in exchange for this we would like you. to conduct business at least in a way that is not destructive to society is beneficial to society how is it beneficial to society for for the for people to be working at poverty wages well i mean i think john locke was silent on the minimum wage in the united states but surely but added zama not president obama can't possibly believe that
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nonsense that he was giving out last night because what if we made the nonsense when we made the minimum wage one hundred dollars an hour so we could argue and we could all live like kang's it's a stupid argument so what's the difference i say well what if we made taxes are zero and this is this is going to be the same as i never ever do you know exactly your to it's the out of out of certain you know is i it's been a long since i took latin but then you agree that raising the minimum wage has an effect the effect that it has. absolutely but while we're going to let your voice every if you look at every single time the minimum wage has been increased since one thousand nine hundred five within a three year period you see a significant increase in economic activity but then why not continue to expand it wiser no higher threshold why is it right out what is this growth to try it out because the thought well the theory of the minimum wage is that this is basically an entry wage and for much of america that was and has no effect on crisis time actually what it does is it is it drives economic activity in
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a positive way no it doesn't have an effect on prices for you can increase wages artificially has no effect on prices you absolutely think somewhat interim within reason with every look at history look at history every time the minimum wage has gone up you have not seen wild inflation what you've seen is that we see you guys on and get going and get our general workers oh not true what about those high school kids and all the lose their jobs to people other people what you shouldn't have an economy where and this is where i work right where i think that they get the government should be good so i should have an economy where people who are in the thirty's forty's and fifty's are working at entry level wages but that's a big no their whole summer until. the writers are going to say we can debate that some other type but it but to your point the thing that's the job creators in this economy are the people who spend one hundred percent of their income they're the job creators because they create demand so they go into the local store they go to the local stores and buy things and when they buy things buy and things you know those stores then hire more people pure consumption tom no savings no investment
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you know what are some of the you're saying i'd leave it alone. totally you don't want to hundred percent i said well ok the point that i was trying to make is that our job creators are consumers and the biggest job creators in our economy are the minimum wage workers and if you give them more what you see is more economic activity history proves this. obviously you can increase federal government spending or tax the private sector talking about federal government i'm going to talk about how it's on the private sector this is absolutely taxed by the private sector this and by extracting more wealth this is not money that's going to the government this is this is money that's going for on the ballot so you're it's a it's not a it's a mandate absolute's a bet going to want to plan it sector no it's not because it's not going to go and it's going from the private sector to the private sector if one goes one way that we're out of the government and go to mcdonald's or buy something that's not mcdonald's is not the government but how can you argue that the government is an involved in raising the minimum wage. if the government. has to i'm so assuming
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that the government should be appalled and so it is that it is in effect a tag like the end point this is through a government feels it is not a taboo and lawyering it no attack neil taxes when government takes money out of the economy to out of the private from the rich moves it from the private sector into the public sector this is the government making sure that the public sector is feeding the pub this is a government making more expenditures on a private company to serve its social economic government saying if you can't run your business in a way that is that is at least reasonable for our society have no damn business running a business so you want to just take over all businesses no i don't i want to say this is our minimum wage period ok investments here's here's my i thought i was talking about those carriages rashness what about all those degrees was there the president said about government investments that republicans want to cut. we want to make the best products we also have to invest in the best ideas
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every dollar we invested to map the human genome returned one hundred forty dollars to work on every doubt today our scientists are mapping the human brain to unlock the answers to all times they're developing drugs to regenerate damaged organs. devising new materials to make batteries ten times more powerful. now is not the time to gut these job creating investments in science and innovation now is the time to reach a level of research and development not freed from the height of the space race we need to make ok you guys didn't like government spending is going to go you are trying to go our government spending this is government spending i think it's a brilliant idea we know that there's a multiplier effect when government spends a dollar it produces anywhere from a dollar and a half to four dollars in the economy depending on where it's spent isn't that a good thing well i may disagree with me all of us
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a little bit there are certainly some areas where the federal government can be involved such as the human genome project that i think were successful but just the idea that government spending is inherently good for the economy i don't agree with that and we need roads we need aircraft carriers we have a two and a half trillion dollars infrastructure deficiency right now two and a half trillion dollars ever since reagan became president so we're not going to repair anything anymore everything is falling apart you've got stuff this is you know call it here you know there's a program bridge fix it and there are state local governments who are set up to have trillion dollars of state local knowledge of it is federal property tell them what the federal in the states i will cite a billion dollar operations they should maybe fix the bridges and fire services had difference between the states and the federal government there's a huge there are great states don't issue currency west virginia has been a net importer of currency forever for all practical certainly since the one nine hundred thirty s. we don't sit around and say oh look at west virginia they're going to have to pay that money back someday no we don't we go in and we say you know here's the here's
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food stamps for your people who will build a bridge or whatever you know we're going to do that there is a role for the federal government in the now unless you want to talk less you want to turn the united states into europe and your own west virginia into greece because it's the decision makers basically if people want to invest and make a private decision what's a good investment what's not a bad road or a bridge you know what you're talking he's talking about the the geno but this pays back all this stuff yeah these hacks. i don't know what we have two and a half trillion dollars in core infrastructure that would put teles of the absence of any level or is at the state level well it's at all levels but it could be paid for by the federal government where the government because they should really be heard is going to go where we want to get it comes out of ops i'm saying it should come out of the federal pocket because the federal government has the ability to morrow and so you can see in the city they don't see is the state level yeah in other words it won't happen what you say massachusetts can fix a bridge in massachusetts may well be able to but west virginia can't i think they can fiddle states have to have
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a balanced budget so they have to make tradeoffs and they say yes we have a bridge that we haven't fixed in thirty years is it workable or should we spend money out i we have this there are several that we need to make what you're arguing for is the articles of confederation you're arguing for the law jawboning yeah i got it i got it all framers in seventeen eighty seven the right sector went in there to put up a toll it had it's happened all around the country only work well try that sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't let's give it a shot but maybe it's part of the mix maybe we should have a balanced approach tom i'm all in favor of bell's approaches and we will leave it at that there it can deal today with autonomy appreciate it after the break why are republicans so bad and given responses to the state of the union why do some of them feel the need to reach for water while america's watching it might have something to do with heavy psychedelic usage i'll explain daily take.
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projects free media. to quell the. science technology innovation all the latest developments around russia we've got the future covered. you know that is while it may seem highly counterproductive the best way for president obama to get republican support for an issue may be to oppose it himself at least that's what a new poll from the washington post seems to indicate on issues like immigration and climate change it appears that republicans are more likely to oppose an idea if they believe that the president supports it according to polls sixty percent of republicans support a pathway to citizenship if president obama's name is not included in the question
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but when the exact same issue was presented with the president obama's name in the proposed law the number of republican support never drops to thirty nine percent that's a twenty one percent drop in support on the exact same issue simply because president obama is associated with and is the think progress blog reminds us a pathway to citizenship is not simply obama's idea there was instituting a health care mandate closing tax loopholes or even increasing gun regulations all of these ideas were supported or even introduced by republicans so president obama really wants to get some work done this turn and turn our nation around maybe he said just oppose his own beliefs and policies then the republicans will suddenly become supporters of those policies and congress might finally be able to get stuff done. it's just. it's the good the bad and the very very luck to asli ugly the good
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friends yesterday the french national assembly voted to approve both marriage equality and same sex adoption of a vote isn't considered all that surprising there was some chance it would pass the bill now goes to the french senate which is also likely to pass it should bill pass the senate be signed into law france would become the twelfth or thirteenth nation to legally recognize same sex marriage as the united kingdom is also currently considering the same legislation the same time i don't know who's going to get it first is the time the united states adding its name to that list a majority of americans approve of marriage equality it's time to get it down. the bat diana medley after word spread their group of students was trying to make a gay free prom saw a soul of sullivan high school in indiana medley a teacher at that school went on an incredibly homophobic rant in her comments which have gone viral on the web medley argues that our first road is
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a choice and that gays have no purpose in life since are ignorant and hate filled comments went public numerous groups of called for the school to discipline her or even to have her be fired fact is we trust our nation's teachers to instill good values in our children and to teach them to respect others and to become contributing members of society it's sad that ms medley is teaching our children ignorance and hatred against it. and the very very ugly congressman steve stockman stockman was part of a betting pool yesterday run by a texas conservative talk show host over what color congresswoman sheila jackson lee outfit would be at the state of union just minutes before the speech started scott stockman quoted. i tweeted quote if you call purple in the sheila pool you want and as if his participation in the pool and his tweet weren't sexist enough back when we're not opposed to highly offensive comparison picture of congresswoman
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lee and grimace the large purple kirk cartoon character from the one donald's commercials so another day another sexist remark coming out of the republican party to help the g.o.p.'s sexes streak stop soon it's really getting theory perry ugly. crazy alert about her lover caught in a real jam in the long and crazy history of the t.s.a. there have been many security slip ups freakouts and epic fail but now the t.s.a. can add a new security blunder to its list going nuts over peanut butter frank cannibal suing the t.s.a. worker and a port authority of new york worker for five million dollars that's one ton of potter after he was arrested for making a joke about the t.s.a. searching a bottle of peanut butter in his luggage at la guardia airport. animal had
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a bottle of all natural peanut butter kind separates causing the oil to sit on the top of the bottle naturally the t.s.a. agent assumed the oil could be part of a dangerous and deadly bomb so they examined it animal then made a joke to his family about the t.s.a. searching his explosives and was arrested for making a false claim and sent to jail for twenty five hours and to make the situation worse annabelle was served some pretty awful you know butter and jelly sandwiches in jail animal told the new york daily news that quote the judge would like plus the peanut butter would like god knows what the bread was hard as a rock say has yet to comment on this latest sticky situation.
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senator marco rubio was apparently high last night yes there was another republican response to the state of the union and yes yet again it was a disaster after watching the president address congress for more than an hour without taking a water break the nation learned tuesday night that marco rubio can't give a five minute speech without awkwardly lungeing off camera what is lips. in the short time that i've been here in washington nothing is frustrated me more than false choices like the one the president laid out tonight. most of the republican party cringed at the moment muttering to themselves oh the woman nodded. and right away the media jumped on the offer of peter the meaning that the republican response to the state of the union is a curse on any politician who gives the speech but i'm here to tell you that in
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fact there's actually a real explanation rooted in science for why republicans can't seem to get the state of the union response right. it's highly likely it's because the politicians the republican party chooses every year to give the republicans response to the state of the union are all using a drug known as i will gain ibogaine is a psychedelic drug extracted from the i bogo plant that induces wild hallucinations and acts like speed one thousand nine hundred seventy two noted dr journalism hunter s. thompson was on the campaign trail reporting on the race for the democratic nomination for president for rolling stone magazine when he suggested that one of the candidates edmund muskie was acting erratically because he was using i will cain thompson described the drug as quote an exotic brand of speed that nobody in the press corps never heard of he added it is entirely conceivable given the known effects of ibogaine that muskies brain was almost paralyzed by all those nations he looked out of that crowd and saw
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a heap of monsters instead of people is mind snapped completely what he felt something a large apparently vicious and it is like this. thompson claimed he was simply reporting on rumors he heard on the campaign trail regarding musky and me i will be an addiction he later admitted that he was the one started those rumors and in the great tradition of the late how to arrest one of my personal heroes i think it's entirely possible the republican party is full of i will gain users how else can you explain their behavior remember bobby jindal the republican picked to respond to president obama's state of the union in two thousand and nine. good evening and happy mardi gras i'm bobby jindal governor of louisiana tonight we don't great moment in the history of our republic in the very chamber work congress once voted to abolish slavery our first african-american president stepped forward to address the state of our union she said gentles i use and inflection i mean how can that
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guy not be i will cain and then there was michele bachmann giving the tea party response in two thousand and eleven she really just looking at the wrong camera or was she being distracted by a pack a heel a monster's quine toward her just off camera act mashal bachmann looked to be so on so much i will gain after the two thousand and ten midterm elections that chris matthews had to ask her if she was hit but i just. ask your kindness from a christian doctrine are you times tonight is someone hypnotized you because no matter what i ask you you give the same answer do you have the ties has someone put you under a trance tonight would you give me the same answer no matter what question i put to you. know chris i'm not have a tie is that i just feel like i'm talking to a giant squid in the soon. but here's where everything really falls into place one well known side effect of cain you can look it up is dry mouth check out paul ryan
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during the vice presidential debate he took a water break twenty two different times what's behind the sudden onset of dry mouth you ask i will cain obviously and then there's what happened last night and brawl that's what dripping from marco rubio's brow where you'd be drenched in sweat the fear too if the camera was slowly morphine into a blood thirsty spider between that and the dr rubio couldn't take it anymore ed a dive on camera. so yet another republican politician another bout of drive and another erratic response to the state of the union. and then forget about rand paul's tea party response last night if anyone doubts that rand paul is using i became like the rest of his party i have two words for you aqua buddha look it up. i know the drug warriors out there are calling for the republican party to drug test their future state of the union responders just like they want to drug test welfare recipients but instead we should be doing the compassionate thing we should
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realize that republicans don't live in a reality based or fact based world and it's because of i will gain we need to expand obamacare to cover treatment programs for senators so that these helpless republicans can stop embarrassing themselves on national television so don't worry republicans all those crazy things people writing dinosaurs because the world is only six thousand years old global warming being a hoax john boehner looking like a giant care or in a suit all those things are just the result of your i up again yes even the really crazy things i mean the really crazy things like reaganomics and transvaginal probes and wayne la pierre it'll all go away when you get some help for your medical condition we're here for you working to help you with your problem colorado and washington state have already thrown you a lifeline legislating
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a much less destructive alternative the might even put you in touch with mother earth and help you see the errors of your ways and there's always add an anonymous groups that meet on thursdays in the basement of the reagan republican building just down the street from the campus. as president obama has said so many times there is hope. so don't give in to those he'll monsters chewing on your legs turn far more real than the welfare queens ronald reagan hallucinated or the illegal voters you're working so hard to stop chill out and get some help. and that's the way it is tonight wednesday feb thirteenth twenty thirteen for more information on any of the stories we've covered visit our websites of thom hartmann dot com free speech or r t dot com and if you missed any of tonight's show you can watch it in h.d. out of hulu at hulu dot com slash the big picture also check out our two you tube channels there are links at thom hartmann dot com also target dot com check out all the different ways you can send us your feedback and don't forget the mock receive
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