shipment related to military operations that have occurred since nine eleven i'm thinking that it should look a little bit like this. because we all know what it cheap it is to leisurely sit behind a computer screen and kill kids with the touch of a button right because this this is the first combat related award created since the bronze star and nineteen forty four and for that matter it will stand higher in a ranking than the traditional bronze star medal one that you actually have to win by physically fighting for so congrats to the future awardees of this cowardly medal just remember where like a badge of shame not honor. or should i be like. have you ever heard of the sylow a drug cartel well the u.s. considers them to be one of the most powerful drug trafficking groups in the world

and it's also regarded as mexico's most powerful organized crime syndicate and even though this cartel was created in mexico its reach extends across the u.s. most notably in chicago which is a major drug shipping hub in fact the dea agent congo is named the cartels leader. in public enemy number one now a federal court in the city is trying to scandal involving the cartel that could potentially incriminate several levels of u.s. law enforcement let's rewind for a second back to two thousand and nine when allegations began to surface over collusion between the cartel and mexican police all happening just after the arrest of tops in a low a cartel leader vincent de. zimbardo was allegedly responsible for overseeing assassination orders of mexican government authorities and rivals of the cartel but he was later extradited to the u.s. on drug trafficking charges. and it is defense see claimed federal court filings

that the us government had offered the crime syndicate immunity to import tons of drugs across the border and exchange for information on rival cartels the issue was exacerbated however when it was discovered that the vast majority of the weapons at the heart of the fast and furious scandal ended up in the hands of the very same drug gang and while this trial continues to be pushed back zimbabwe has a status hearing set for the twenty fifth of this month where his defense attorneys are expected to provide damning evidence against the federal drug enforcement agency but as explosive as the scandal is it somehow flown well below the radar of the corporate news so to help break down the latest in the case the larger implications of the trial and why we're not hearing about it joining me now from mexico city is investigative journalist andrew qantas andrew thanks so much for coming on thanks for having me out here so you've been writing about this case for some time what exactly is i'm bata claiming and are his claims being taken

seriously. yet his claims are being taken that seriously by a lot of their shareholders but nonetheless they're explosive in the extent of the accusations and it is a frightening amount of evidence to substantiate at least some of them first of all there were so many credible testimony that happened during the height of fast furious scandal and that happened mostly during the summer of two thousand and eleven and so a couple of people in particular carlos and you know it was the a.t.f. it's actually for the embassy in mexico city and steve martin who is a system director of the office is information and intelligence to kind of to most interesting testimony and there is a good you know said it was absolutely disgusting this is it's your. quote unquote a perfect storm of idiocy in terms of how the fast and furious program had fared what he was most upset at was the fact that it was really these are deployed. it is

reportedly directly in the hands of the that you are cartel in fact steve martin testified that i want point when the weapons were number enough over a thousand they were one hundred percent in the hands of the singapore cartel now the tie in to the somebody to chase is that somebody in that same month actually is defense attorneys came out with some details of the unity agreement he was choosing that he of having had with them and those details unsurprisingly included the fast and furious program as being one of the benefits for the arrangement that he had with. some other at chelles interesting ones related to that case to add especially with some bata is that there isn't already officially and we made it to that meeting agreement of sorts with the leading lower this you know or believe him or your brother the c.e.o. or cartel that it's. lawyer castro lawyer as you know by now lawyer was in a meeting with incentives and bought it with two agents at the sheraton hotel which is right approach the street from the u.s. and the u.s. embassy the same night as the rest of that five hours before his arrest so there's

a lot of frightening kind of tie ins in evidence of this case that give somebody a lot more credit unfortunately the main streets in yes are given right definitely claims that should be looked into seriously let's talk about the possible various scandal the fact that all these arms ended up in the cartels hands how far up the ranks of law enforcement does this go and why do you think that we're not hearing about that at all on the corporate news and. well you know that we're actually did get some attention when a couple of republicans were looking into it and you know basically conducting a massive investigation by the tie into this of the design by case that's really the tie in that the corporate media has become very much at all and i think one of the reasons is because up until the very high levels including even jack riley himself the head of that chicago d.a. you guys were leading with you named charles the public enemy number one just yesterday even himself as i've interviewed you know denies most this stop and so on the government deny stuff and there's only a drug. on the other end it's really

a rare case that the mainstream media digs into the details to the point where they can find it was a lower testimony and cite it and do that kind of work on that kind of investigative journalism israel is been absent for a long time i mean argue at least for at least for the last sixteen years since the telecom act resulted in and just a handful of conglomerates controlling the majority that means. we did hear about the thousand various kinds of course all over actually was a huge scandal in the on the media but we didn't hear about this aspect of it how the drug cartel had believed in the play. but let's not talk about the actual evidence i mean there's and we have this cartel leader saying one thing of course the government insane as saying another thing the d.a. said another thing i mean is there any hard evidence i know that there's some documents being withheld and you talk about what these documents might reveal and whether or not there's any evidence to go on right now. i'd sure like as i said as i was alluding to before i'm believing lower this york the leading lawyer this you know or cartel has been a document to protect this source for the last eleven years he has signed

agreements and in fact a diamond in san diego was dropped against some of that started in mid ninety's by the late ninety's you know for sure that there was extensive contacts between lawyers and the da and perhaps a number of other favorite uses as well these are the kind of communications in fact that the defense that's about his defense team especially very hard to get revealed but in our ad they're kind of arcane laws from the late seventy's on security that the prosecution has cited the very very overwhelming bulk of evidence related the kind of it's just communications have been withheld during the trial and sort of this been a cat fight during a status year and that has been ongoing over which documents will be released and which ones will not and the federal judge. is basically making those decisions and as trial unfolds and finally gets its start in chile you know is officially slated to start february never did start of course it's still in a pretrial phase and with the lady many many times a lot of folks are pretty much sure all this is not going to happen you know.

before the election and globally all that in at forty lectures and now it's never happened. so what's going to be the key to pretty much back of this piece is which documents will be released and which ones will not at a very at a minimum the like i said a key agreement with the leader of the single or cartel as their release has been admitted to and so the question is if the lawyer of the world's biggest star cartel added we're going to the scene of the tell is a third rate person not. it's not include them as well does that include shop owners and include. these father miles of bottom which is right hand man those are the questions that are pretty much circulating but again i mean between the immunity agreement with the lawyer and the facet furious evidence that as argument sets the fire to in a string of other blasts of sheen a lower cartel possession offensive through his weapons there are there is enough evidence at this point for at least people's eyebrows to be raised for them to be very disturbing implications for the level and extent of collusion between will i believe this she and the world's largest are all absolutely especially when you

find out that banks knew of laundering billions of dollars in and drug money you know from mexico profiting off that andrew but let's talk about the implications if his allegations are true that he was provided and munity that the cartels provided immunity to provide information for other cartels to to just transport drugs across the border i mean we're talking about tons of drugs here one of the larger implications of these allegations if they are indeed true. well they are terrible keep the implications are that the drug war has gotten to a level of desperation to the point where one needs to apparently at least if you will it needs to enter into high level agreements of high level drug kingpins i mean that's that's an incredible kind of you know moment our state of affairs that you basically reached in course of the drug war and you know most u.s. citizens really aren't aware of that in the lead in tactic or at least in a significant tactic anywhere in that range right and that's really the problem with this case is that the public that we live in a democracy supposedly. and the public has

a right to decide on these things and you know and. by their impedance on these matters and especially with you know this the latest is slate of state set up asked kind of liberalization of marijuana laws and whatnot it seems that if the public you know were made right aware of these kind of pollutions that they might object to it or even the way the drug war is being fought itself when we're talking to guys like jack riley that i've done they just kind of see it as you know par for the course a normal thing that to you know really said oh look you know people have been entering into sort of these kind of agreements and these kind of spies sort of agreements he's kind of informing things that's a big give me a block or should i just like normal cops and robbers yes i do yeah that's what you do you just you know you can make giant agreements with the with huge drunken perrin's i mean come on andrew unfortunately we're out of time thinking so much is a really important case we want to be following up with you about this because it's huge its implications are astounding thank you so much and you can is an investigative journalist coming on from mexico city. thanks a lot looking forward to talking about more. over wondering what i'm doing when i'm

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yesterday on this show i talked about the latest news that had developed out of the chris dorner manhunt as we all know he's now presumed to be dead that's not the part that surprises me even dorner himself knew it wouldn't end well for him but what does surprise me however is how he died check this out in the middle of big

bear forest the cabin dorner was allegedly in was set ablaze and left to burn for hours at first the media was speculating that it was dorner himself would set the fire but then i heard this leaked audio from two different police scanners that were tracing him. we're. going to go and i want to point out what what i want to. point out. i don't i don't know. yes you just heard that correctly police saying burn it down fall through the burn order i don't know about you but it seems to me like the police set out to burn this man alive but of course that's not what the police department saying check it out. say that it was not on purpose we did not intentionally burn down that cabin to get mr dorner out but tear gas canisters that

we used first off we used a presence when we showed up secondly we used a cold tear gas then we used set the next year gas was that that was pyrotechnic does generate a lot of heat. we had to introduce those canisters into the residence and a fire erupted so what is really going on here and why are people simply questioning the police line being attacked joins me now to give his take as max blumenthal investigative journalist and author of the recent alter net article entitled how law enforcement and media covered up the plan to burn christie. dorner alive max thanks so much for coming on thanks for having me so we just heard the audio we heard of the police department saying you outline it very well in your article what's really going on here. well i was listening to the police scanners at the time so i heard them say let's deploy the burners i heard the open

transmissions on k. cal nine in los angeles that you played let's burn this m.f. or they're basically saying let's burn the suspect alive so you know. the san bernadino county sheriffs are behaving like groucho marx's right now because it was groucho marx who said who are you going to believe me or you to lionize we know that they intended to burn chris dorner alive in the cabin denying him any due process or at least denying the possibility that he could have been taken alive and by the way this is a man who made serious allegations against the l.a.p.d. and could have testified to them so they apparently killed him i was listening at the time and at the same time i was watching c.n.n. monitoring media monitoring local newspapers like the riverside press enterprise like a.b.c. the local l.a. affiliate saying that we will not tweet direct details of the standoff under the

request of the san bernardino county sheriff so i saw a kind of a media self-censorship and still we've seen no serious investigation by the mainstream media or into how the fire was started in fact the sheriff's department has lied to the los angeles times and claimed that there was a sustained fire fight a constant barrage of gunfire coming from dorner now i listen to those scanners and the only report of any gunfire from inside the cabin was a single shot right after the burners were deployed then ammo exploding inside from the heat meaning probably dorner had died and his store of ammo was blowing up so they're lying in the media. is not investigating and i consider this to be a cover up right right absolutely you know why you have to take it back to the live feeds and kind of that self-censorship why do you think that the media you know they were told obviously from the police turn off the feeds stop reporting on this why do you think they comply do you agree with that decision yeah i mean i haven't

spoken to any of the reporters or editors who made this decision but it seems to me there's a culture in american mainstream media of deference to power and we can see it here at the chris dorner standoff we can also see it in the fact that the new york times and other major outlets held details of the legal memo that was leaked from the obama administration detailing the obama administration secret assassination program which is the killing of american citizens so we have a problem here that was exposed at big bear on a wintery mountain where chris dorner burned alive of police a culture of impunity among the police and a culture of deference to that culture among the media only came out looking good from this there certainly is a culture of cover up complicity with the media deferring to the political establishment whatever they say but what does this say about their complicity with

the cover up of this i mean and not only that max but they're also going to far as to attacking anyone who's saying look obvious they are the police scanner they're saying let's burn this mother f. or they're saying what's the point of burners they're calling people conspiracy theorists they're even saying you know you're chris dorner apologist a fan if you're simply questioning what they're saying what do you think about that you're referring to the web site buzz feed which is a is a major news news blog online news source which is painted people who are raising serious questions about how dorner was killed conspiracy theorists and so. of conflating them with people who are cheering for dorner and this is really disturbing and reinforces sort of the law enforcement status quo narrative and ultimately reinforces the police culture of impunity thereby putting americans in danger so i think these people. who are trying to marginalize

people like me who just simply listen to the transmissions listen to the police scanners and heard what was clearly planned to burn dorner alive as conspiracy theorists are doing major disservice but you know i really think it's up to the mainstream media especially the l a times to investigate what i consider to be the central story here which is how that fire started and they're not doing it i was on his post live yesterday with one of the l.a. times reporters leading the reporting on dorner and he promised to get to the bottom of it i've seen nothing so far and i've seen nothing to challenge the lies of the san bernardino sheriff's department so this is just it's a very dangerous scenario right and i mean it even if one reporter says you know he's committed to find the truth of course the top down establishment of that organization might prevent that from happening but i want to talk about just the overzealous response from the get go i mean almost launching surveillance drone gunning down two cars on mere suspicion and now you know burning a high of

a suspect in a heavily forested area and letting this fire blaze for hours what do you think about this overzealous aggressive response just a fine one person. well i listened to the scanners as the the sheriff's deputies who had surrounded the cabin and isolated the media from the area carefully manage the fire they had they had clear details i think through remote controlled reconnaissance vehicles that initially ripped down the walls of the cabin on how the fire was progressing and they understood that it had burned down the first floor and then they wondered if dorner was hiding in the basement so they wanted to make sure it would burn him there if he was hiding there they wondered what materials the. basement ceiling were made out of it cetera and they were deeply worried that this fire could spread into the surrounding woods i mean if this had been summertime in l.a. i could pretty much guarantee as i lived there for five years there would have been a wildfire what it reminds me of and the sheriffs were lucky this time is the bombing of the move compound the radical black nationalist called in philadelphia

by the philadelphia police department in one thousand nine hundred sixty dropsy four on a row house in west philadelphia and burned sixty five other row houses in the area it was a huge disaster and so we just see the police culture of impunity and recklessness playing out again and again this is just a window into something that people in los angeles and people in our city have to deal with every day and the media with its dereliction of duty is allowing it to essentially continue unchecked absolutely thank you so much for coming on shouting a light we definitely keep asking questions demanding answers max moment all investigative journalist at alter net thanks a lot. the media fixation over disgruntled ex l.a.p.d. officer chris dorner got me thinking about how long foresman police officers or

federal agents deal with these types of threats the tactics used against dorner made me instantly think of waco texas in case you're younger view and you've never heard of the waco massacre let's take a look back at what happened and february of one thousand nine hundred three u.s. agents from the bureau of alcohol tobacco and firearms attempted to issue a search warrant. carmel fenner ranch the property of a religious group called branch davidian and over a tip that the group was stockpiling illegal weapons that search failed and one sued was an exchange of gunfire leaving four agents and six branch davidian dead followed thereafter was a tense standoff and media frenzy. in. february twenty eighth the bloodiest day in the history of the bureau of alcohol tobacco and firearms as the siege entered its third week the f.b.i. turned up the heat. blasting loud music and chanting to the compound over powerful loud speakers now and then playing recorded phone

negotiations with caress to make sure cult members knew what he was saying as the fifth week began it was evident federal forces were losing patience all. interpret the bible. the seizure against the compound lasted fifty one long days until finally a second assault was initiated by federal agents donned in full combat gear they used a military tanks to bust holes in the house and pump and tear gas and then this happened mysterious fire that destroyed the entire compound resulting in seventy six men women and children tragically being burned alive so u.s. law enforcement f.b.i. agents and observers from army secret delta force commander unit he seized a compound where not a single person inside had ever been accused of committing a violent crime before the initial raid of course the media account of what happened was that the branch davidian were dangerous trigger happy cult and their

leader david crèche was a madman at the very last minute incited his clan to kill themselves in fact the justice department under the clinton administration took the official position that all the deaths were simply the result of a mass suicide the federal authorities under then attorney general janet reno repeated lee denied that they were responsible for starting the fire but despite the official government line of denied denied denied evidence eventually came to light that proved their culpability first of all and for a video shot by the f.b.i. flying over the compound in the days leading up to the massacre. showed automatic gunfire being directed from the tanks before any shots were fired from the compound furthermore visual evidence showed a tank deliberately running over one or more bodies of sect members despite the overwhelming evidence it took six years for the f.b.i.

to even admit that their explosive munitions started the fire and to this day there's a total lack of accountability for these crimes the f.b.i. stonewalled an investigation that led to a whitewash of the government's actions at waco interestingly enough the f.b.i. official accused of blocking the investigation thomas kelley was later tapped to serve as the lead investigator for the joint congressional intelligence panel the same panel that whitewash the role federal agencies played in the events leading up to nine eleven. this type of overzealous reactionary behavior is nothing new with law enforcement the methods used at waco mirror how similar high tension situations are dealt with by federal officials today the question is if this is how they'll deal with a small group of armed religious fanatics when push comes to shove how will they deal with a mobilized rebellion from the working class would it be any different. let's

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