a vote of last hope austerity hit italians are choosing their parliament with a former comedian stealing support from mainstream politicians and disappointment running high. america's new secretary of state john kerry is checking the boxes with key allies in the europe on his first tour abroad with a look at what is mission it with partners there could be. syrian rebels release a video which they say shows a government helicopter being shot down with a missile that's as the regime says it's ready to talk to all sides of the opposition even those who are armed and fighting. and afghan brothers amid a russian vegetables drug control officials seize almost two hundred kilos of heroin hidden in sacks with the radishes at

a market near moscow. great to have you with us this evening we've got live news and analysis from across the globe i'm lucy catherine of and of course you're watching r.t. well on to our top story now the voting has officially ended in italy where a disillusioned public has been choosing its next parliament the early results of thus far show the center left coalition is leading with the main surprise of the election the party led by a former comedian also doing quite well but he is reports from rome. well at this point we're kind of having this whole up and down which is happening between the candidates which is of course something to be expected in the preliminary stages of the counting of the results it's first it looks like the evolution was at

the head then. he made a surprise appearance at the top and then back it went down to being in first place better going to being in second and the biggest surprise with agree lower former stand up comedian coming in the a very firm third place and of course modern monte the prime minister has since told numerous assyria to measures italian public his coming in the fourth place he's actually trailing quite severely and does look like this vote is not so much of all the politicians or it's not so much about voting for one as it is about voting against against the us territory measures which have been put in place by mario monti over the past year and a half and they have been proven quite unpopular so it does look like the italians are voting with monty in everything that he had to do with the economy you have to understand that italy is the third largest economy in the eurozone so a lot of the politicians and bankers as well are probably watching of the results

a cross to europe or at this point. reporting there meanwhile poller a phone and he's a strategic and political analyst and he says that it is likely that another period of broken promises promises lies ahead for italy. people need to be out of the measures which i cannot produce the structural reforms of the society you know that do have a trustable future for those who are already working and for those with land to do the work force people are dying of promises which have not been fulfilled the center left is. getting what it was already. in the polls. but certainly many people are wondering why they didn't make the reforms in the previous the stations where they had the majority so the situation is very caustic at the moment it is not certain that the government

can be forced if not the coalition government involved in almost all the major political forces that are present in the bombs well the new u.s. secretary of state john kerry is testing the ground for u.s. foreign policy on his maiden foreign tour which includes traditional european allies as well as the middle east now during talks in london john kerry said the ties between the u.s. and the u.k. are closer than ever to take a look there is a reason why we call this special relationship or as president obama prime minister cameron wrote really a partnership of the heart john kerry speaking there will or i spoke to jeremy corbyn he's a british labor party m.p. who gave me his view on what this alliance is really based on. it's not oh more than anything a military alliance my through the substantial u.s. bases in britain well speaking of the military alliance there's another soundbite that i want to play for you from john kerry now the secretary of state let's take

a listen to this one the united states and great britain the major countries stronger we've made the world more stable and secure i think we can be proud of that if we look at the different conflicts where the u.k. and the u.s. have collaborated on we're talking about afghanistan iraq libya do you feel that this has made the world more stable and secure as john kerry says. no i think tony blair formed a very close relationship with george bush took a straight in the war in afghanistan and later on accepted all those arguments bush used about iraq and britain was deeply committed in iraq and as a result we've been involved in two major wars we've lost a very large number of soldiers spent a vast amount of money and made the world an infinitely more insecure place we've also damaged civil liberties in our own country just as much as the united states

has with its department of homeland security and all the controls that go with that and i think we need to examine the whole strategy of the west involving itself going to stand in iraq then later libya and now syria to some extent and wonder if we're not really heading off in a completely wrong direction as if all this isn't enough a new adventure has broken out in north africa where britain and this time france involved the deployment of forces all across the sahara. well moving on now it looks like francis pratt planning to build a rapid reaction force and station it in west africa to help fight eliminate insurgents after its official war in mali ends that is at least according to u.n. based diplomats now while paris hasn't officially released the details it is believed that the so-called beyond the horizon force would most likely be deployed in senegal need share or chad now these are of course countries as you can see on the map there were france currently maintains military bases or for some analysis

on this issue let's turn now to lawrence freeman he is the head of the african desk at the executive intelligence review magazine sir thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us it does look like france is of course in the ending stages of its military operation in mali but from these reports it looks like they may be stationed on the continent much longer how how do you read into this what's behind this in your view. this is new so. prize to me what i understood knew from the beginning is there for the french carried out their successful military campaigns with a superiority of forces they would call back. what's going to happen now is that you can see reliance on special forces from the french but also additional support it's going to come from the united states and probably also from great britain and the african troops are going to be then left with the task of actually carrying out

the. rooting out the jihad is to extremists and this is going to be very coarsely you see now in with three days twenty three chatting soldiers have died and the cherry instilled is a far better treat and then the west african soldiers so france will stay there as they expected in various ways u.s. and britain will stay there and expand their operations and the african soldiers are going to be the ones who are going to be dying carrying out this attack on the islams especially as they move into the mountains mountain regions between now mali and algeria and this is all not going to lead to any positive solution north africa they're hell they're all going to be. in the lives of these countries as a result of this policy and that's exactly what turney blair announced on february third he said north africa is where we're going to be for the next generation well

certainly looks like a lot of the world's attention is focusing on the continent now but you mentioned the u.s. there last week the u.s. has announced that it is deploying one hundred soldiers tunisia air to us that's what intelligence operations were also of course now hearing about a drone a base two to deploy predator drones from the area what's really behind this shift this american focus on africa. i don't think it i don't believe there was a shared. understood from my thinking that this was going to happen. we now will have a hundred soldiers in the share go up to three hundred soldiers they're saying that there we will use predator of surveillance drones but we do not rule out predator second fire lethal weapons missiles at targets in north africa i expect that this would happen obama is a drone killer a happy president well the use of drones which goes about forty five people so for

trained bush and obama administrations most of them during obama with eight to four percent of those killed are actually higher value than to be targets so we will use drones throughout the area and the french. are happy to have this and as i said earlier look the british policy is really the one that governs africa they know it best they look down upon africa and they're going to carry out their stabilization and there will be genocide there will be death from starvation lack of food destabilization of governments and the french and the united states unfortunately i will get pulled into this you know the french may have other motives where they've done they're in danger of getting dragged in which is why i think they're going to try to get out the next fifty to thirty days what is the motive everyone any of you i mean you're in a they be at they share a pretty pretty intense china side serious destabilisation of why what's the purpose you have to understand the british people don't the british empire still

exists that different form today exists in the city of london and the royal family they've made abundantly clear repeatedly that they believe that she should be used to want to do be people and they see africans act africans as excess baggage as animals that should be culled from the herd and should depart. they should have their should be reduced the country should be weak and fragile and therefore the city of london for me to critique yours would be able to see countries and take their resources and this is right as this is escalating right now because the collapse of the financial system is escalating very rapidly all right well interesting point of view there thank you so much lawrence lawrence freeman head of the african desk at the executive intelligence review weighing in for us thank you sir thank you look at over to our web site r t dot com we're going

to find more reaction on what's going on in mali as well as other stories that we're covering so as always head over to our web site for more in-depth analysis. a massive drugs bust on the edge of moscow has once again highlighted the alarming rise in the illegal heroin trade from afghanistan into russia almost two hundred kilos of high grade heroin was seized by drug control officers this monday at a busy market imagine planning that on your morning shopping well earlier are two shawn thomas described the details for us. great story here the russian federal drug control services say that they have discovered one hundred ninety kilos worth

one hundred eighty million u.s. dollars outside of moscow and how they discovered it is kind of interesting in fact the drugs made it all the way from afghanistan here in bags of radishes in fact you can see the radishes and then the green heroine check this out it's dyed the color of the red it is radishes so that it's less noticeable less easy to detect and there they've discovered one hundred and ninety kilos worth now the big news here is that they have blocked where they believe they've blocked a major supply route from afghanistan through and it was back to stand company a vegetable contract that was sending things to the urals russian company there and then brought to moscow in this particular case they have detained two people two more people have been arrested of course the investigation is ongoing if you look at this week around russia in different regions around thirty tons of various types of drugs between heroin marijuana synthetics drugs and psychotropics as well they

were discovered in various regions around russia but the bad news is since the west has gone into afghanistan since the u.s. invasion drug production from afghanistan up five thousand percent from not good news at all and then again narcotics into russia from afghanistan has more than doubled in that amount of time and in fact of the director of the russian federal drug control services states that two thousand and fourteen may actually be a very good year for russia saying that when the u.s. bugs out of afghanistan they actually expect that the import of drugs from afghanistan to russia will actually decrease. in thomas reporting there unfortunately drugs are just one of the many problems facing afghanistan these days the country has seen them or their turmoil president karzai ordered u.s. national or says out of the war doc province he's trying to quell public anger over numerous cases of civilian murders and abuse says it's a story. we're going to report on in greater detail later this hour. syrian rebels

have released a new video in which they claim which they claim pardon me is evidence of their growing success in the fight against government forces. this amateur footage that you're watching apparently shows a rebel fighter shooting down a syrian army helicopter there you see it right there with a missile now the voices that you're hearing in this video in the background allow a bar that translates to god is great and after being struck the aircraft goes down in flames you can see it right there surrounded in black smoke the incident allegedly took place near the city of aleppo it's been the scene of heavy fighting last week rebel officials said they received a new batch of heavy weaponry from outside sponsors across the jordanian border. syria's government says that it is ready to hold talks with the opposition including its armed factions the country's foreign minister made the announcement

while meeting with russian diplomats here in moscow meanwhile the main syrian opposition group has changed its mind and announced that it will in fact be attending the friends of syria meeting in rome after initially refusing to go but it does seem still that they won't be engaged in any other international talks that have been scheduled aimed at resolving the conflict. the details. this visit is taking place at a very uncertain time with really not clear what's needed to be done in order to get the syrian opposition engage in talks with the government and saddam askers does stress that it is really for a dialogue with the opposition and if the last week there were some positive signals coming from the wells they said that they were willing to hold talks with the government now they refused coming to moscow accusing russia of supporting president assad it was the number of those who support this realistic approach towards a peaceful resolution is growing those who want to continue fighting to the end

realize that so they're trying to suppress positive news from the opposition and stop any steps towards dialogue. in the meantime soon after orders have put together a government commission headed by the prime minister is designed specifically for negotiations with the opposition and they say that they are ready to talk even with oil and rebels because. we are ready for dialogue with everyone including those who are fighting on the ground as we are convinced that we forums should not be made through bloodshed foreign minister lab or office stress that nothing is done now and no political process starts if the violence continues there then the whole country is on the brink of collapse stay with us we'll be back in just a. internal

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any time anyway. good evening i'm lucy catherine of while the afghan president hamid karzai has ordered u.s. special forces to leave the key battleground problems of wardak troops there were accused of torture and the murder of civilians brian becker of the antiwar answer coalition told us that a start just security kabul will now have to worry about. well you know the problem with the afghan army and the afghan police is that it's the creation of proxy the client of a foreign occupying force which is despised really by the people of afghanistan including many who may hate the taliban but who realize that the foreign occupation forces especially these special operation commandos commit any kind of atrocity kill the people torture the people set afghan against afghan without any

accountability and so of course that leaves the afghan military in the police even if they were doing pristine work which of course they're not they have many they've committed many crimes on their own but that would leave them in a position of having no credibility with the local population the fact of the matter is the american government has stopped trying to win the hearts and minds of afghan people and resorted to the methods of terror and of course that strains the credibility of their partner the government the rivalry between the u.s. and china has gone digital and it's threatening to turn into a full scale cyber war and recent scandal involving a chinese military unit allegedly engaged in cyber theft to promote merican companies as put washington on the defensive but it may not be long before washington makes its own move in this new era of a cyber arms race. has more. in january it is my pleasure to welcome president hu to the white house washington and beijing were the a list

couple of geopolitics the positive constructive cooperative u.s. china relationship is good for the united states in february america's feelings are fleeting china unleashing its full spy power let's return to the alleged link between china's military and a prolific hacking group most cyber attacks are being carried out by teams inside the chinese military china is officially out of control because don't look now but prove today our sugar daddy is a thief beijing became an overnight security threat last week after the american information security firm mandiant identified a secretive chinese military unit as the likely source of hacking against u.s. corporations are charged china vehemently denies. however as the u.s. refocuses its military from the middle east to china's backyard critics say it's no coincidence that beijing is suddenly morphing into america's virtual al-qaeda i

think this is part of what obama calls the asia pivot which is really a china and this cyber thing is is fits right into that pattern i think what we're looking at is art of this obama pivot to focus on china and to paint china is the new military threat to the world it's a demonization china earlier this month u.s. president barack obama signed an executive order aimed at strengthening america's defenses when you know hackers steal people's identities and infiltrate private e-mails we know foreign countries and companies swipe our corporate secrets. now our enemies are also seeking the ability to sabotage our power grid our financial institutions our traffic control systems we cannot look back years from now and wonder why we did nothing in the face of real threats to our security and our comp but according to reports washington is all too familiar with the offensive

side of cyber war it's the u.s. who launches things like stuxnet together with israel to to cripple certain iranian technology capabilities in two thousand and ten a computer virus known as stuxnet infected tehran's enrichment facilities destroying nearly one thousand of iran's six thousand centrifuges according to reports the virus made entirely out of code was a joint collaboration between the us and israel in terms of a pandora's box i think it will be slightly harder for the united states to adopt a position of purely defensive we sort of made it clear that we're willing to use cyber in advance of our national interest while reports about china's a legit cyber attacks have dominated u.s. mainstream media much less is being said about the pentagon's decision to double down on its cyber war work force expanding from nine hundred to more than forty

five hundred employees experts say the move is indicative of washington's evolving military strategy every commander with whom i have spoken is going to be is the next major war will include is cyber component it will just be a traditional insurgency a bombing of their practice center our ground troops the next floor almost certainly will include a cyber component and the edge of cyber war france could become foes by the click of a mouse and some say in a very short time relations between the u.s. and china over a virtual espionage can resemble the long stalemate that took place with the soviet union during the cold war we're in a port i.r.t. new york. right folks well we here at our t. want to hear from you we want to know what you think these hacking scandals are all about and so we decided to create a special online poll for you that you can log on to and have a vote let's take

a look at how the results have panned out so far as you can see here a little chart here a large majority of you sixty five percent that's actually more than two thirds think that this is actually a p.r. start stunt by the obama administration to push forward his cyber security policy is a little bit actually a lot less sixteen percent over there believe that the so-called hacker war scandal is purely about espionage now just a little bit fewer of you in the orange there believe you guys are the doomsday sayers here you believe this is the coming of the next world war and finally just six percent of you right there in the green believe that this is actually a warning to china head over to our dot com cast your ballot and we'll read the results on the air. anyhow there's more for you on our web site it's not just polls we've got news of canada a state of the art satellite which is aimed at tracking down dangerous asteroids online we've got the details of a multimillion dollar investment aimed at saving the planet from potential dangers

coming from space. also for you on our website a web freedom north korea style the country plans to make life easier for tourists by giving foreigners a full online access. to the. well germany is. now to our news stalled talks on turkey joining the e.u. as chancellor angela merkel is there an official visit ankara is increasingly frustrated over

a lack of progress in the negotiations with the prime minister they're calling to delay unforgivable well political analysts i'm on a well i can see the writer says the current economic situation in the e.u. is actually leaving many turks hoping the country stays out rather than joining in . to see that european union is no democratic pro chafed its political approach a sort of ideological approach because when you ask the people in germany if they wanted to have the euro for example fifteen years ago that huge majority of the people who were against getting that europe the people if they want to send troops to the turkish syrian border they say no the european union is a construct with out the democratic base it's an ideological base and so maybe hopefully we can hope for for the turkish people that they will have the right to take part in the referendum of oh to took about a turkish new membership because i can't imagine that for

a turkish citizen to see how the repeat of the european union develops now in the states is doesn't seem very attractive to become a member of that club hey what's going on around the world i don't know let's find out. it. looks like at least ten people have reportedly been injured in clashes between israeli soldiers and palestinian demonstrators that claim the shots were fired during the protest against the death of a palestinian man who perished in the israeli custody under disputed circumstances there are allegations that thirty year olds are fanta john doggett was killed by a twitcher inside the prison walls but israel is denying this saying that more tests need to be established are needed to establish the cause of death. the world's go to place for cheap furniture ikea has been caught up in the european horsemeat scandal ikea's famous meatballs known for sustaining millions of shoppers and worldwide were revealed to be in fact partly hope of course meatballs they've

been pulled from cafes in a number of countries including sweden and the czech republic after tests revealed they contained a horse d.n.a. in the past month of the scandal has battered to trust in the e.u.'s food system exposing failures across the continent. all italian prosecutors have called for the captain of the luxury cruise liner the cold so concordia to stand trial for manslaughter the man is charged with having abandoned the ship but during passenger evacuation the indictment involves five other crew members the costa concordia slammed into a reef off tuscany last year killing thirty two people. well it's time now for the latest to business news with not natasha the results are still coming in in italy but the result doesn't seem to be so clear cut probably won't be for a while so how are investors reacting to the confusion here well would be really fear is the fact that silvio berlusconi the former prime minister actually formed pretty

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thirty two minutes past the hour here and mosque you're watching business on our t.v. with me that's a chance to welcome to the program. italy's the first general elections since the launch of the popular are certain measures are going to really set the country's future economic direction the exit polls show the center left is ahead but the former prime minister silvio berlusconi may have a stronger than anticipated coalition in the senate leading the election pack is the democratic party front runner here luigi bersani many see him as a sensible politician who is likely to follow mario monti's path the tough and obviously unpopular economic reforms for his part berlusconi faced a group of violent albeit topless protesters once he went to the polls they

screamed lost the berlusconi or enough of berlusconi despite his questionable economic policies while in office and some strange personal conduct like tax fraud and actually sexual charges girls cooney is incredibly resilient as a politician he's making a remarkable comeback by promising to stop many of monti's austerity measures and to issue massive tax returns to discuss how all this could impact at least future i asked tobias whitener of dive a capital markets see europe he explained why he gets investors extremely nervous. for the moment it's probably too close to call because there are still i think the very big possibility that after all. his turn to rights coalition will actually win the senate and hence we will have a hung parliament i think as it was feared by by the markets and probably also by

most governments within europe if that will be the case and i think it looks actually most likely that this will be the outcome then i think we have really the worst outcome that we could have had for the financial markets in particular simply because we will have a very unstable government we will have the lower house dominated by the. center left and then the upper house by the center right and that means that there will be no law no majorities to pass through all of these important structural and fiscal reforms that italy would need at the current church or to put its economy on a sounder footing if nevertheless both houses will be won by the center left after all then i think we will still be looking i think of weeks of negotiations between . on the one side and mario monti on the other side and they are wide discrepancies between the two parties on the way forward for the italian economy so even in the press case i think we're still looking at weeks of uncertainty of weeks of high

volatility i think given that you know there is not really united among the different parties in italy about what to do with its economy but yet many experts expect here luigi bersani to be a pragmatic politician who is likely to follow in monte's footsteps at least in terms of you know all the austerity measures and such old the tough reforms what will he focus on first and foremost in your opinion what will be his priority well we would say that we're probably a bit more skeptical on that front simply because spurs army is very very close to the trade unions to the very powerful trade unions in italy and that simply means that i think on those reforms that monti already tried i think most notably the labor market reforms there really i think progress is needed in order to you know

get a little bit away with that where lity that you have in the labor market you have a very high youth unemployment in italy and we probably fear that i think the trade unions will try to stop all of those important reforms that monti already tried but he did not really i think at the end succeed i think many of his reform proposals in particular with regard to the labor market were watered down. at the end and so it looks very very unlikely with a center left government that any of these very crucial reforms can indeed be passed i think in the in the senate and in both houses and so in that respect i think even if we have a center left even if we have a stable government it's very very unlikely that we see these kind of really important structural reforms that we see you know in other member states of the euro area most notably we have seen something in france very similar recently but it's very very unlikely that the most likely elected government will deliver on that front and it's time now to take a look at the equity markets to see where we stand right now in europe it was all

about italy and its election results equities ended the day in the black in fact we saw a pretty upbeat picture more than one percent for the footsie and almost one and a half percent for the dogs but it italy itself shares and shared earlier gains what exit polls pointed to a potential deadlock in the parliament or on wall street where the traders actually active this hour it's a pretty gloomy picture both the dow and the nasdaq are shedding value almost half a percent each but precious metals are actually gaining and that really shows that investors are losing their appetite for risk and are looking for safer assets to park their cash moving on to the currency markets what we're seeing there is the euro was pretty much flat to the dollar as the ruble it was a mixed bag as you can see there it was actually losing to the dollar but gaining to the single currency and higher oil prices boosted russia's equities on monday

then my sex and the day half a percent up the r.t.s. was almost one percent higher the blue chips that traded in the red included rosneft hydro and ariff lot. and china wants more russian oil energy giant rosneft promised to boost oil exports the china bow about nine million tonnes the two sides also agreed to jointly process meanwhile waters reported that rosneft was asking china's oil major c m p c for a thirty billion dollar loan to finance its t.m.p. b.p. purchase a report that rosneft denied russia exploited about twenty four million tonnes of crude a lot to china last year which makes it the country's third largest oil supplier

and just seven years russia will become a developed country with low inflation a sizeable middle class and much slower economic growth rates that's according to the latest research from bank of america merrill lynch and the most paradoxical idea in this forecast is that it's russia's demographic problems that will drive these changes by boosting internal consumption earlier on monday i asked him on chu car from around capital moscow what he thinks of all this i can focus on your demographics is that that is not enough to dodge a conclusion of course we do know the demographics are for discussion that we do know that the population will be declining and serve to do really creates some conditions for us for for for for for growth and you wages each might lead to russia becoming kind of a more western economy but once again we need also to take you to consideration of

accumulation of capital and also the productivity of this amazing labor force so i think. ten year period it's difficult is difficult to do to say at least more of a method of speculation than that than than making some some kind of a very very very definite definitive conclusion about. it in ten years' time what about other macro economic indicators like inflation and g.d.p. growth which would you agree with the assessment of your colleagues. inflation is concerned i actually i actually agree in fact we can be seen a significant reduction in rates in this country over the last couple of years this is mainly due to the fact that at the central bank level the central bank has made this decision from targeting the exchange rate which was the case before the two thousand and eight crisis in the inflation and i think this kind of change in the mockery coming there about paradigm has certainly helped russia chief

a much lower inflation i think he should continue to be the case so as far as inflation is concerned i definitely agree as it is g.d.p. growth is concerned i think that. you see slower and lower growth rates. let me just give you an example between the two key crises that russia has seen over the last fifteen years the sovereign crisis in one thousand nine hundred eight and the great recession in two thousand and eight between the into crisis period russia was growing at about seven percent per year and as you can see in the post-crisis period these growth rates have already slowed down the kind of growth rates do see right now at about four five percent so we have already seen a slowdown and i think it's a natural development for any country along its road of economic development starting from now on certainly not be seen the seven percent growth rates that we used to be seeing fifteen years ago so i think the new normal if you would like for ferocious economic growth over the next seven to ten years is somewhere between

three and five percent so in that sense i would agree with that the overall claim. and that's all from us in business coming up next in just a few moments we asked the international peace envoy lakhdar brahimi what he believes when he believes peace will be truly restored in war torn syria. thank. you. thank you. thank you thank you

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conference and he will be meeting its leader. do you believe that direct talks between him and the syrian president bashar al assad are are possible not with president bashar al assad but with the government. it is necessary yes sure. i think you know there are more and more people who accept that there is no military victory for any side and that you need a political solution and that part if you're concerned solution meets make or situations. negotiations i think can take place between deliberation to presenting the government and the delegation representing the opposition so when you're saying q. may be talking to the government but not the president directly. the problem is only in one man bashar al assad himself or the steamroller is that the opposition

is saying every five minutes but they don't want to talk about. this is the problem six months ago your prep predecessor coffee on resigned saying that there is no way they could be a peaceful resolution in syria no he didn't say it in has anything changed you still believe that a peaceful resolution a serious possible i mean you know first of all kofi never said this words allusion is never possible he never said. what he said they were was that you know he was counting on the international community to help him and the international community did not have so he said for the moment there is you know we are in front of a war he didn't say that he never said that there were never disorders or so i'm less you are saying that there must be a military solution. which a lot of people say. but kofi annan did not say that and i'm not saying

what's your take on this peaceful resolution still a great possibility it is it would not oppose for the moment it is extremely difficult it's not that it's not happening but it is a must the syria either has a peaceful resolution or then war for i don't until the country is destroyed. and if you don't want to be the country to be destroyed and i don't think you do then you really called for this war resolution difficult as it may be. the choice really is between destroying syria and having the peace was just you something why do you think syrian uprising has such a strong terrorist element to see if this is again.

what is it that you call terrorist. very often a lot of people call terrorism what others call liberation movement and i think in syria we have something similar there are definitely acts of horrible violence and acceptable. that is done by both sides but to say that the struggle is between the government and terrorists is is a little bit pushing it too far short the u.n. commission believes. al islam. effectively jihadist tera brigades are backed from abroad and they're operating in syria a lot of people are backed from abroad that doesn't necessarily make them terrorists the job is. is is considered

a terrorist organization by a lot of people including by a lot of syrians but that doesn't mean that everybody is is a terrorist in syria what do you what do you make of saudi admission that they're actually supplying arms to a lot of there's a lot of prying around on the record not saying yeah sure the russians are supplying arms to the government. they don't they don't deny that and we have a war. unfortunately we have a war a lot of syrians most syrians as a matter of fact both from the government and from the opposition. with me because i call it civil war but it is a civil war you please at least you agree with me on something yes. you and i call it a civil war a civil war always support from outside and you have both you have two sides in this civil war and this is what lover of says there are two sides to this position

of the government and they should negotiate so let's make it very clear that there are organisations that are objectively objectively can be considered still there are organisations that are considered by the government as to what is as much of a who are not there in syria the main struggle is really between a large part of the people of syria who want change they want change in their country. and that is i think a legitimate aspiration they want dignity that's what they said they want dignity they want change they want democracy. this is the struggle there are foreigners there are a tiny minority maybe a few hundreds maybe a couple of thousand but there is one hundred thousand at least of our own two people who are fighting against their government unfortunately so i mean don't try

to to say that it is foreigners who are fighting against the syrian government this is not the case so you feel like syrian people could go on believing in a secular country. even if our son goes i hope so that's all i'm asking that's not what your us if you are asking about yes definitely and i think that a lot of people in syria and outside outside of syria very much want syria to continue to be a secular state why do you think it's has taken so long it's been two years already that's a very good question that's the best question you have asked. it. you know you are have a very strong well organized regime. who are determined to stay in power they have the means they have the military means. to fight and doing so the opposition is in spite of all the weapons they. are not well organized they are

mostly civilians who are taking up arms. and fight is why you know they can keep the struggle going they cannot win a military victory but the government also cannot defeat them this is. cindy's one thousand times that is why once again a political peaceful solution is what is necessary and good for the syrian people when i was in serious three months ago i also said that he actually will stay until two thousand and fourteen wait for the election and then see what happens i mean is this a realistic plan. you know one. would very much like the problem to be solved long before two thousand and fourteen if it were possible to be solved before two thousand and fourteen it's much better than waiting until two thousand and fourteen because we're talking about civil war and he's talking about elections

. how does these two go together they don't you can't have election words civil wars or you need to stop the civil war and the civil war can be stopped. through the negotiations on the basis of the geneva agreement so if we have that resolution then we'll have an election what kind of an election depends on the results of the of the negotiations his future in his own hands at this point should it be in his own hands i'm talking about assad i don't want to talk about that let me ask you one more question about assad do you think the only problem is in assad and he not stepping down that is. lot of people who are opposed to who are involved in this conflict in syria think that the president is a serious important part of the problem this is

a fact and very pitifully do you believe that's the problem doesn't matter what i believe doesn't matter what you believe either you talk directly to the american government they believe that he's the problem do you think it's an oversimplistic approach or no i'm sure the realty of you americans and you ask them but do you speak with the syrian government and assad directly as you speak to the opposition and their leaders also you know we have an office in damascus and we're keeping very close connection and i saw president i said. to somebody so what messages are they sending to each other how have their behaviors towards each other changed in recent months i don't think it has changed enough to bring them to the negotiating table and this is what a lot of people including mr level of work and go. coalition the coalition seems to be under a great influence of many international players you have the arab gulf states you

have the united states you have turkey you know tell me if i'm mistaken please because that's the question what is the question all i'm asking is that is it hard to go shade with a coalition that is influenced with different international forces everybody. in the world to the people who are connected to one another they are influenced by one another i deal with russia i deal with turkey i deal with the united states because these are countries that. i think rightly or wrongly think that they have an interest they have a concern. they have fears about what is happening in syria and i think they all can help the syrian people and me get to a solution do you fear do you fear there's a chance that an iraqi scenario could unfold in syria where sectarian violence

spills over absolutely this is what needs to be avoided this is what you know you have already some. overtones of sectarianism. you know becoming more and more visible in the in the struggle in syria and that is why the earlier the problem is solved the better ways to take care of that at this point he said overtones are heard at this point who is to deal with that now i think both parties both parties have to be extremely careful to avoid that if you are aware of it. but they need to be a little bit more. mark out for. not to allow this situation to slip into a purely sectarian conflict mr rennie thank you very much for this interview thank

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