in egypt is the army steps in to break up fierce riots and portside eat has happened after football violence defendants will move between prisons. to take a look at the deadly consequences of the u.k. government's tactic of stripping passports from citizens it suspects of terrorism but has no evidence to prove. war nukes and a growing rift with the administration dominated a meeting of america's most influential israeli lobby while protestors outside make clear there are other problems at hand. but varia joining a chorus of european regions intensifying claims for independence saying it's done with val in the capital out of financial misery.

it's ten am in moscow by mattress a good to have you with us here on our t.v. we begin today's rundown in egypt where one officer and at least one protester of been killed me egyptian city portside the army stepped in to break up clashes there leaving more than three hundred injured violence erupted over a decision to move those detained over last year's football rioting to prisons outside the city this came during the u.s. secretary of state's visit for talks with president mohamed morsi that have outraged egypt's opposition or he's bald bell true as the latest from cairo. this started so off to thirty nine defendants in this post are you trying to about this said much because it happened in february off the court at this point so you've based focal much these defendants are being moved to sounding very angry about them being used they gathered at the security directorate building and broke out between the police force this protest this of course you will see how violence in months were the naldo cities here in egypt this is after

a young man was killed he was run over by a police vehicle the minister of interior saying it is a mistake for his father how to maintain he was one of the twice rights groups reporting that a few times but in the. political group the popular current headquarters was also attacked by police with tear gas what we're really getting is chaotic and quite violent reports across the country including here in the comparable countries have a broken out on the cornice between the governor pro justice and security forces were posted this is all the function of the u.s. secretary of state says visit to egypt which was seen to be very unpopular here in egypt he spoke with the president today and said he would america with that pledge four hundred fifty million dollars to the country however this is done little to peace the people i see roy had his meeting yesterday protesters gathered in front of the foreign ministry and burned pictures of john kerry saying that he was here to support the mission brotherhood and push american interests william engel an

analyst and author of myths lies in oil wars things washington starting to realize that maybe supporting the wrong side of music. i think there is a double faced policy in washington the backing of the muslim brotherhood goes back to the cia's role in egypt back in one thousand fifty's when they saw the muslim brotherhood as a potentially useful tool to put in their bag of organizations that they manipulate around the world i think some people around president obama have the delusion that they could control what's basically of political islamic fascist movement so it's not really a movement for democracy and he's for much of the imagination at this point morsi is in a life and death struggle because the populace of course is not there for this this who and washington is beginning to get a little bit wobbly on its support for morsi for that reason they're beginning to rethink i think that's one of the reasons for the change between hillary clinton

and john kerry to bring in a new cast of people and see what what kind of options there are in egypt as for. having a british passport revotes can be a death said in this recent numbers suggest the number of people having their passports torn up on national security grounds as recently soared on the blacklist people live in suspects are linked to terrorism but doesn't have enough evidence to prosecute some of the former british nationals of alphen then allegedly detained tortured even killed abroad let's take a closer look british foreign mohamad soccer had his citizenship revoked almost three years ago he just turned twenty seven when he was killed in a u.s. drone strike in somalia is a close friend below we came to the u.k. as a baby and grew up there before he was killed under the same circumstances in somalia within hours of calling his wife in london to congratulate her on the birth of their son the same year a sudanese born sudanese british man took his four british children on holiday to

sudan four days after leaving he was stripped of his passport and his children were prevented from growing up in the u.k. another case a british born family including three kids all stuck in pakistan after losing their citizenships while there two years ago let's go to london mauritius and to farmer spoke to the person behind the investigation. well the full extent of chilling government program to rid the country of suspected terrorists has been revealed we now know that over the last three years sixteen people have had been stripped of their british passports and the grounds of national security critics claim that these suspects have little chance of appeal with human rights lawyers actually describing the whole process as mediæval and sinister well to talk more about this is chris woods from the bureau investigative journalism which actually broke this story chris with a new report it says or people are claiming that this completely ignores people's human rights and also the basic principle of innocent until proven guilty what is the evidence to support this all of these sixteen individuals of have citizenship

revoked their passports canceled on the personal side of the home secretary so the courts have had no citation in this process we don't know the evidence that's been laid against these men. and even if they are able to get an appeal which is very very difficult that appeal will mostly be heard in secret and again those affected and their lawyers may never know the true extent of the evidence against them so it's a very secretive process in which the rule of law really does seem to be absent in some places and that's been commented on by judges sitting looking at this process some of whom raised the point that the government has waited until people got on family holidays for example before stepping in and removing my citizenship effectively locking the door behind people who are not only looking those affected out of the country but their families as well the children who are british british born unable to come back into the country without separating the families and so on so this can have very serious implications far beyond the individuals as we know to

these suspects that are actually being killed by us strange strikes is that a coincidence there's no proof yet of any direct connection between those events but certainly people are asking questions it is clear that those people died after their citizenship was removed as part of an active targeting by the united. states and again neither of those individuals were ever charged with any offense in the u.k. we know they were accused of serious terrorist offenses but there were no charges have been laid against the government's response so far has been to say that citizenship here in the united kingdom is it's a privilege and also wrong to sticking by their guns but these are all cases where the government has acted because of their concerns about the threats that these individuals represent the united kingdom so it is the home office's view they've done the right thing and they're sticking by their actions ok chris thank you we will have to leave it there it is worth pointing out that the government has had these powers since two thousand and two well that would is this current government is really ramped up its use and over the last three years the number of cases has

increased from six to twenty one and of course as we've heard the government only has to publicly justify what it's doing on the ground cities in the interests of national security. andrew fama fast say london. there are more examples of a british u.s. connection last june a former london based care worker mahdi how she lost his citizenship and was allegedly pressured by british secret services into working as an informant but after objecting admire five's option he was reportedly secretly sent to the u.s. where he's apparently facing terror targets now we've got up with his father who says his son is being unfairly persecuted it was unexpected and shock to the horror family who are pretty sure who are leads he all of us navy has a pretty safe but it's a lot of a shock to us who have wondered how it could be like that for someone just to be as if she's just to be provoked like that petition has been getting moved from what he was out of the kind that he was away and it was even hard for us to contact him to

upbeat against the kids all i can see is that my the he's a muslim and believe and he's a practicing muslim but being a muslim is not being an islamist that's all i can say oh that's why that's always been victimized. on our website now taking to the cloudless skies and vast array of planes old and new on display international air show in melbourne australia visit our web page for spectacular video when photos. and tragedy strikes in eastern siberia and have a way and ships a group of teenagers one frees him self before alerting emergency workers five remain missing all the details online at r.t. dot com.

expose the warnings of military action against iran coming in hot and heavy at the american israel israel public affairs committee conference in washington israel's most ardent supporters pushing for greater u.s. backing but the meeting is drawing fire itself with some protesters staging a somewhat colorful demonstration among their concerns aggressive settlement expansion on occupied palestinian land and war talk from netanyahu are his guiding shaky on reports on the aims and aspirations of the conference. he is pushing for a congressional resolution that would say should is will decide to strike you want the u.s. would give all the support including military options mosques to humane. we have stayed this time in the game and we expect those who say to me that this kind of

a congressional green light for preemptive strike although non-binding is seen by some as a way to put more pressure on the obama administration which so far has been reluctant to see the u.s. dragged into another war in the middle east the us will never abandon their nuclear efforts unless they. and you only believe that america is serious about keeping all options on the table. many of the conference said they thought the administration was soft on iran but that's a view that was expressed on the sidelines not from the podium the potential of it is really nuclear defense is the only thing that's keeping the country alive not relying on america because obama has not been forthcoming in defending them against iran in fact he's been stalling them apac is also pushing for legislation that would designate israel as a major strategic ally of the united states the question many ask is why does the country that's perceived as being closest to america suddenly need the congressional see the full approval now according to an n.b.c.

wall street journal poll that came out just a few days ago fifty five percent of americans now no longer want any sort of preference between either side of the israeli palestinian conflict the lobby maybe this is a chance particularly in the face of sequestration where there could be cut just across the board almost two hundred million dollars they could view this as a last chance to tie in support. this fight here just to the subject of conflict with the palestinians as we see considerably less attention at the summit in iran but the general impression here is that what's widely regarded as the most influential lobby in the american politics has detected a potential threat not just from israel's neighbors but from inside washington itself. in the wake of two wars in a battered economy we see signs of an increasing decided to disengage from world events and focus inward this growing yearning to untangle from what is perceived

as too complicated a world effects both parties conservatives and liberals alike they just want out. for israel even the tendency toward isolationism is extremely dangerous refusing to speak on camera some of the delegates expressed frustration over the president's decision to nominate chuck hagel as defense secretary chuck hagel is known to have been critical of the pro israel lobby president obama will not be speaking at the apac conference this year but he'll be traveling to israel at the end of the month then one of the speakers here said it's going to be a real challenge for him to show that deep down and i quote him he really understands israel under threats that it faces that gives an impression that the apac is not too happy about the administration seemingly trying to play down the war talk in washington i'm going to check on. the lack of a widespread appetite for a strike on iran may be the only the latest new series of reversals for

a pac according to political analysts robert naiman from just foreign policy there is a lot of believe the. israel lobby is losing the club from a high level but they have had a series of reversals bush about the election the reelection obama was a reversal where the israeli go clearly mean clearly in we want to be reelected you're back and then their candidate for secretary of state with susan rice she was our john kerry came in they didn't want john kerry so that was your second defeat and then we just had the spectacular defeat and the nomination confirmation of chuck able to stick step to these just so for a number of rehearsals in the one hand they're losing khloponin the other in their agenda is getting more stream and more radical these two things are used to be used to be very careful to try and project

a bipartisan image republicans democrats but increasingly openly advocating the right wing agenda that a lot of democrats don't want to be a source of so for. militia's explosive temper spoils libya's business plans coming up the country stops and gas exports to italy after a fierce firefight between rival groups the right guard a plan that's coming up after a short break stay with us here on our team. with . science technology innovation all the leaders developments from around russia we've got this huge you're covered. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear sees some other part of it and realized everything you thought you

knew you don't know i'm tom harvey welcome to the big picture. is he. thanks for staying with us here on r t seventeen minutes past the hour and out of various joins catalonia and scotland a maneuvering toward separatism many politicians there believe germany's largest

states better off alone complaining that it's forced to hand over too much cash to poor relation berlin or his peter all over takes a look at how far bavaria may be ready to go. germany you find twenty three years ago but the cracks are showing in at least one of its regions void. we want an independent state of bavaria this is an extraordinary aim there are twelve million barbarians if independent we could be the ninth biggest nation in the e.u. with the fifth largest annual economic turnover i'm convinced we have the cultural historical and economic strength to survive the bavaria party's campaign literature certainly doesn't pull any punches when it comes to showing how they believe the rest of germany treats the sun state the group poses little threat to germany's political big guns it took just over one percent of the vote locally in two thousand and eight but their ideas are spreading an increasingly influential

circles. depict when i look at the map of europe and of history i see the boundaries are not made to last forever they can be moved by free people czechoslovakia made the peaceful transition into two democratic states in two thousand and fourteen scotland will have a referendum there is work being done in catalonia this movement is happening in europe today. the varia is booming when it comes to business it's home to some of the most recognizable and expensive brands in the world b.m.w. audi. and siemens have their base of operations here while munich is one of the world's major economic centers all contributing to an annual income of almost half a trillion euro a major factor which sticks in the craw of the variance is how about wealth is distributed throughout the federal states they're sick of paying for poor berlin it

hands over around three billion euros a year to the capital what impact would an independent bavaria have upon the daily lives of those living and working there to find out i've come here to the beautiful bavarian countryside to speak through a very keen on it dependants. yossef farm produces bio gas to heat diversified from dairy you know generates electricity from local phones definitely a case of where there's smoke there's money but it's where his tax cut goes that's concerning him more than the smell the hallways talk is good if tickets were completely and represented in germany on our own we would be a good size european state all we are now on the fun and seers of berlin and others . and fios if there's more at stake than just money to one of europe's oldest states. since reunification there's been too much number of varian influence on us

i want my kids to grow up feeling very culturally linguistically no one learns the foreign language in school we want to change that. when germany's in each day celebrations get underway in the autumn is might find that here in the largest states they're more keen on policy weighs them upon seeing these are all of the various. turn out of some other stories making headlines across the globe a massive car bombs gone off outside a mosque in the pakistani city kharaj killing at least forty five people and injuring many more police say a hundred kilograms of explosives were used drifting through several buildings setting fire to others no group is yet claimed responsibility the shia population of the city often targeted by sunni muslim groups. fifty thousand people

protested in cities across all garia marking national liberation day angry they say at the rising cost of life and political corruption their former prime minister boyko boss of forced to quit last wednesday under public pressure and new elections planned for early next month rolling demonstrations and grow into a backlash against the whole political system there. in south africa eight police were caught on video dragging a man who the streets handcuffed to a police van are due to appear in court charged with his murder the man who was from mozambique you can see in this video died from head injuries that internal bleeding the taxi driver was arrested for parking his car illegally his video sparked outrage in south africa after broadcast on national television. british cardinal keith o'brien admits to sexual misconduct the seventy four year old who stepped down last week apologized effectively acknowledging he'd broken the catholic church's rule banning homo sexual relationships he's the highest place

member of the church in recent history who have made such an admission o'brien now won't attend the conflict of the conclave that will choose the next pope and if you minutes debate show cross talk he has a long hard look at religious belief and its relationship with atheism and that as we look at religious people as we do interfaith alliances an atheist religious alliance is if we try to wake the world a better place what we need to be on both sides of the of the equation most vigilant against is those pitfalls that are most dangerous and that celebration of ignorance over evidence and celebration of myth over reality that's something that we need to be most most concerned about and it's one of the biggest differences between humanistic beliefs and practices and and some of the you know some of the traditional religious values and some of the expressions of those traditional beliefs lawrence you want to you're disagreeing there go ahead page that we suddenly have transcript of what i said i was tired dogmatically. lawrence i had

a dogmatic atheist are dogmatic about their position concerning evolution evolution is the basis of their religion it's the at least the evolutionary theory of hedging to human theory is the basis they have to because as i said before you either believe in something supernatural or you believe in eternal natural and so they stick to the natural. libya forced to halt gas exports to italy after a deadly gunfight between two armed groups in the northwest shooting broke out after an argument between militias over who should guard a major plant conflicts like this have become sadly regular in the post revolution country about you know me as a kiwi from the pan african newswire things libya stability may have fallen victim to western energy interests. some nine billion cubic meters of natural

gas from libya is export it to italy constitutes eleven percent of the national supply. natural gas to that country and now western europe and i think this is a reflection of the fact that there is this codependency between the former colonial power of italy and libya they are attempting in many ways to productize the natural gas as well as the oil industry inside of libya of course the majority of libyans are suffering immensely as a result of this post gadhafi political configuration and as we've seen the clashes between the various militia groups as well as the so-called enemy that is still simply out of the control of the general national congress is still not in a situation where it could actually bring about stability. up next latest edition

of our debate show crosstalk stay with us here on our team. john kerry made his first major verbal gaffe as secretary of state by mixing the nonexistent country of courage to stand in one of his speeches of course it is funny when politicians misspeak george bush was pretty good at that but i can say that we all make mistakes when we speak trust me it is very easy to butcher the pronunciation of someplace on earth like course to low voltage or walla walla washington the thing is that he didn't just misspeak his speech was written correctly and if you look at his eyes as he said it he wasn't really looking at notes or something he was reading it off of a teleprompter right now i am reading off

a teleprompter but i put every word there myself which is probably why john kerry is spelled with a q but my question is would kerry and prompter mr obama just read anything put in front of them to even really know the realities of the tiriel they're reading in their speeches and who are deeply versed on some subject and you should need to read word for word from the teleprompter to give a speech just try writing some notes and speaking with your brain and maybe your heart like in the good old days but that's just my opinion.

hello and welcome to cross talk where all things considered i'm peter lavelle atheism a religion that has a specific worldview and even a value system what accounts for the spectacular loss of faith in much of the western world as secularism captured much of christianity is message without the organizational trappings and dogma and support of the same rights as people of faith. to cross-talk atheism and religion i'm joined by jason torpy in washington he is the president of the military association of atheists and freethinkers in quebec we have lawrence to still he is the president of the creation science association of quebec and in new york we cross to rob he is a writer and comedian cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i very much encourage you jason.