ivan manning that's what wiki leaks founder julian assange is trying to do before the army privates court martial more secrets revealed are keeping tight lipped we'll tell you asunder strategy next. and u.s. troops fighting wars overseas never leave a man behind so why were so many of their families being abandoned by the nation's biggest banks many of them facing a wrongful foreclosures. and could the keystone pipeline create thousands of jobs like many supporters have argued one largely publicized study says no way in fact the study concludes it will actually kill more jobs we'll have more on this straight ahead. it's tuesday march fifth five pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our t.v. we are going to start off today with some breaking news from venezuela we just got word that venezuelan president hugo chavez has died according to our spanish sister

station he passed away for twenty five pm but it's well a time the fifty eight year old socialist leader has been battling an unspecified cancer since two thousand and eleven questions have been surrounding the state of the socialist leaders health since he underwent surgery in cuba and since december after returning to venice well last month chavez had not been seen nor heard from by government release photos of the president in mid february and provided sparse medical updates repeating that the president was fighting for his life chavez was first diagnosed with cancer in the pelvic area in two thousand and eleven after surgery and chemotherapy treatment in both two thousand and eleven and two thousand and twelve he announced he had recovered in may of last year then in december chavez went to cuba to undergo a fourth round of surgery. naming vice president nicolas maduro his preferred successor and the opposition contend condemned the government for its. over the

president's health he goes chavez was elected for another six year term as president in october of last year an election for the now vacant seat should be held within thirty days for more on his fourteen year rule are to correspondent lucy caffein of takes a look back on the leader's legacy. our a military man known to many as el commandante but it could be a what appears it's a good one it's going to work very well a politician devoted to promoting venezuela's role as a key player on the world stage. often a singer. sometimes a dancer occasionally a joker. some people think i'm unable to speak in public for less than five hours of that were held back no punches from a suppose you were yes just today the devil came out here. right here there used to be little and it smells of sulfur still today who may have

had many faces it is certain that he was one of the most outspoken tension between a century. the world first met him as a young paratrooper with a tank his one thousand nine hundred two coup attempt was doomed to fail but his dream of a radical leftist revolution was not by their last moment but despite a brief prison stint for us actions chavez went on to run for president of venezuela in one thousand nine hundred eight winning the vote in assuming office in one thousand nine hundred nine under him venezuela went from being a major u.s. ally governed by and ordered the ruling class to a test case for the childless experiment with twenty first century socialism that meant nationalizing key sectors of the oil rich nations economy and pouring billions into welfare and social programs to help the previously marginalized poor child has helped slash poverty rates drive down unemployment and reduced income inequality winning diehard supporters among the impoverished. but his venezuela was

also one of the most corrupt nations on earth with a murder rate exceeding that of iraq charges of authoritarianism suppressing the judiciary and silencing the press dog chavez throughout his presidency opponents fought to remove charges from power including a two thousand and two coup attempt and a two thousand. or recall referendum was over but he remained winning another term in office in the twenty twelve election after facing the toughest electoral battle of his career in his foreign policy java spearheaded the creation of today's anti-imperialist the left leaning bloc in latin america working to promote his vision of a multi-polar world he allied with russia to develop energy contracts financial arrangements as well as arms deals and made sure that subsidized oil flowed freely to allies like cuba bella ruth's nicaragua and syria is the following it wasn't all smooth sailing when it came to his dealings with the west as was known to donate free heating oil to poor americans but had little love for their government

relations have ranged from tense to outright hostility. the devil who drives to dominate the world then he surely is independent and free and will never be a north american. but in twenty eleven charges to up a new battle in a fight for his life against cancer just before the new year and after four operations in cuba child has named his vice president as the preferred political heir the final war waged by al commandante venezuela's founding father cmon believe are was a hero in latin america's push for independence from about chavez he was the inspiration for a populist revolution and a push to bring about a new world order revered by some reviled by others it is undeniable that chavez and his bolivarian revolution left a permanent mark on this country this region and the world to seek out from the r.t. caracas venezuela. and we will be bringing you more details as this story develops

. well now to another twist in the bradley manning case wiki leaks founder julian assange says the whistle blowing web site has more u.s. government secrets but is going to hold off publishing them until a private first class is released he told us to really a news outlet fairfax media quote we still can't publish it it would be a questionable action to do so now while bradley manning has a potential life sentence hanging over his head only last week manning pleaded guilty to ten of the twenty two lesser charges against him he pleaded not guilty to the most serious charge of aiding the enemy and accepting responsibility for the dump of classified documents manning said he leaked it all to spark public debate over u.s. foreign policy for more on the new classified documents wiki leaks says it has and what this could mean for the manning case i was joined earlier by jeff lynne radica director for national security and human rights of the government accountability project and she started by commenting on whether this could just be more fuel for

the governments continue to hold manning. i don't think the government could possibly have any more fuel than it's already added to its own self-made fire i think a songe is trying to protect a source and i think he doesn't want to further inflame the government the u.s. government by releasing these documents and manning had referred to these documents in his in his thirty five page statement that he made on the twenty eighth the additional documents that assad is now with withholding exactly what how did it how did manning reference these documents he spoke about the incident these documents of february two thousand and ten incident in which the iraqi federal police arrested detained and tortured opponents of iraqi prime minister

nouri al maliki and. manning had been tasked with catching these bad guys and upon investigation found out that they really had no connection to terrorism and that these were really just scholarly leaflets that had been made and although manning is often criticized for not having gone up his chain of command he did go up his chain of command with this and he was told to drop it and to continue investigating other places that might be printing things in opposition to the government now manning he and his thirty five page testimony last week he had already accepted responsibility for leaking these documents so what's the incentive there for a science to continue to hold on to them when he's already kind of fessed up to leaking them i think because the actual documents are probably far more incendiary then their brief description that manning gave in the thirty five page statement i

mean it's different to two. talk about a helicopter video versus actually seeing it and at this point i mean i take a songe at his word all along he's been speaking out on behalf of bradley manning and trying to protect him and because it did up being referenced as part of the police i think he felt the need to say something right and of course we haven't seen these documents but it's kind of raising these questions as what could they possibly contain if he's holding on to them could it be an indication that the documents contain some kind of damning information something even more explosive than what we've seen so far come out of the existing documents you know i think if it had more damning information that might be an argument in favor of releasing them now at my it could help or hurt manning and then it might help him because people would be more sympathetic with why he blew the whistle but it could also really hurt him by again further exacerbating the government's vitriol that it's

already demonstrated by continuing this prosecution even after the plea after the plea they could have dropped it and they've chosen to go forward with aiding the enemy and espionage act charges is all that kind of calling these other questions i mean julian a son she has kind of said himself kind of prides himself on being a whistleblower as doing a job that other media outlets won't do by disclosing these things and now he's holding back so kind of a makes you wonder what effect manning has had od on whistleblowers and people more hesitant to put to put information out there for what their retaliation could be for what the consequences could be well i think normally when the mainstream media shifts on information it's because they feel they've been convinced that it's going to harm the government in some kind of way here it's different. he doesn't want to do anything that would compromise

a potential source and in fact up until the time bradley and to. his plea of silence always maintained you know that if if mending is a person he never confirmed that so for him i think the motivation is quite different for holding on to the documents and also some pretty outlandish arguments have been made about how we can be leaks. aided the enemy just the very fact that with you leaks documents were found in and some of the lot and compound that that somehow proved to be minting the enemy which is such a broad argument well at this trial set to start in a couple of months maybe that is a lie if there's a decision the judge and it's a pleasure as always to have you on the phone a little justin radek director for national security and human rights the government accountability project. well any time a bank wrongly forecloses on a home there is reason enough to stir outrage now adding to the foreclosures on military members homes while on deployment turns out the country's biggest banks

wrongfully foreclosed on more than seven hundred homes of military members during the housing crisis according to the new york times bank of america citigroup j.p. morgan chase and wells fargo recently uncovered the foreclosures to regulators from where i was joined earlier by our three producer bob english. i think it's important to back up a little bit and to examine the structure of the u.s. mortgage market and how we got here how there is so such pervasive fraud that could have occurred and it started when we had a series of low interest rate years by the federal reserve they're basically giving away money there was several legislative changes that allowed it easier to securitize these mortgages slice and dice them and these became very hot products and when that happens when there is a demand for yield in money's being given away for free you have the collateral which is the house being transferred from person to person to person or company to company and there's easily lost the chain of title and what they created the big

banks in some other people was a system called mergers and it's an electronic system where they could just transfer the title without having to go to the county recorder office so we're going with this is that the pervasive fraud that we see is a result of a systemic problem and the people in the middle military right now are feeling the effects of it right but when it comes to people of the military bay have special legal protections when they're active duty so are the banks a and more hot water now that that they've been caught doing this head to members of the military certainly there's supposed to be a court order to get a foreclosure on an active duty military person and there are several instances where this didn't occur and there was a study convened by the federal reserve the officer officer the comptroller currency in two thousand and eleven and what they found was they didn't find too many problems but they halted the study early and they decided to a blanket settlement and then they went back and then to stop discovered these

pervasive problems and some of those had to do with the the military and so the settlement with the military people is they're supposed to get one hundred twenty five thousand or up two hundred twenty five thousand dollars if they've been wrongfully foreclosed on but the average person who's not in the military it looks like they're only available to get fit. hundred to two thousand dollars how does that even make sense that's no where near the cost that's even the cost of a car lot hold on i know how is that it's a very it's a pittance but like i said the study that would the should have been convened before there was an actual settlement was halted and only after the numbers were agreed on did they go back and find these these more pervasive problem so they should have done more homework in the first place and they didn't do it and now we're stuck with a little bit of money amount of money to be spread over a large number of people. we should mention these banks j.p. morgan for example they've taken part in programs to help military families like awarding homes hiring veterans but does the fact that they foreclosed on so many of

these active duty homes show that maybe all that was just for p.r. purposes or what do you think i don't thing j.p. morgan does anything for p.r. purposes their heart is really in it but it sounded sarcastic ok a little bit i think though yes it's a p.r. nightmare because american is a very patriotic country and nobody likes to see people in the military coming back home with their homes in the place of you know being surrendered to somebody else being foreclosed upon so you know it's a p.r. problem certainly not a great homecoming i can say that much great to have you on that was bob english he is a producer here at our. so i have here in our teeth cut the keystone pipeline create thousands of jobs like many supporters have argued one largely publicized study says no way in fact the study concludes it was actually it will actually kill more jobs we'll have more on this after the break.

the same story doesn't make it news. no. let me talk. now to the controversial keystone pipeline opponents of the project that would allow tar sands to travel from alberta canada to the gulf coast say it would be an

environmental disaster advocates say the project would create thousands of looking into jobs but a new study says that argument is false argues on associate churkin has a story. operations of the keystone pipeline and ambitious pipeline is firing off a war of opinions a seven billion dollar project to transport eight hundred thousand barrels of tar sands oil a day from canada down to the gulf coast phase one of the keystone project from old burdick canada to halfway through the u.s. has been constructed with almost every mile built met with protest chance canada said that they expect that eleven spills over a fifty year period in its first year i had over thirty five spills the keystone x.l. a major extension of the pipeline is causing a stir while the obama administration debates its pros and cons before giving it a final go ahead or halting construction while those pushing the project ahead see it will create more jobs a largely publicized cornell study found that the project would kill more jobs than

it would provide the argument that you know twenty thousand jobs are going to be created just isn't true when the state department used trans canada as own numbers for you know looking at job creation they found that about two thousand five hundred to four thousand six hundred jobs might be created by the pipeline and these are you know temporary construction jobs the number of permanent jobs that would be created by building the pipeline around fifty in the united states professor skinner who worked on the study says there was another promise of several thousand extra manufacturing jobs in the u.s. but in reality the majority of the pipe itself is being built in india she says the negative economic and employment complications have also been met with a blind eye such as the six hundred thousand people employed in the agricultural sector in the way of the pipeline whose jobs are likely to be affected if you look at the six states that the pipeline goes through eighty percent of the economies in those states are based on agriculture. ranching and tourism and all of you know

tourism like fishing right like kayaking canoeing things that rely on there being clean water good keystone proponents see will decrease skyrocketing oil prices and make the us less to pen. on foreign oil something america really. stable source of energy it's tempting to get wrapped up in the turbulence of the markets or oil and gas prices but i think we also have to remember the turbulence of what's going on right now with the climate everywhere we look there is this mounting evidence of climate change at the end of the day there are no jobs on the planet canada has vast reserves of tar sands oil environmentalist say it's extraction devastates ecosystems and uses up too much water there are plenty of oil and gas pipelines in the u.s. but very few that carry this particular type of oil tar sands oil is argued to be particularly toxic to the environment lower grade than regular oil dirtier and more complicated to produce and transport making keystone an enormous hazard for the environment according to the project's opponents if we go the oil we've already got

no chance of remaining a stable maintaining a stable ecosystem and biosphere with a climate that we've become accustomed to over the last ten thousand years of human civilization. tens of thousands of protesters who also support this opinion rallied in the largest climate change protest the u.s. has ever seen last month it devastates me to know what is being done to my country and that now that we're trying to export our filth into another country and damage more people and more environmental activists say to prevent global warming oil needs to be kept in the ground and not used to produce energy we only have one sustainable life plan if you know what i mean and we should all just be aware and do something to make a difference while concerns over the potential environmental impact keystone x.l. could have have reached an all time high a recent two thousand page state department report says the pipeline could but should not be a real threat to the environment barack obama's supposed to announce his final

decision on the project in the months to come but analysts are concerned that corporate influence over washington is likely to steer this decision away from what's simply better for the environment and the people who depend on it i say churkin our party in new york. well as the old saying goes the company you keep says a lot about you and that's what the n.y.p.d. is betting on these days when combat ing juvenile crime that apartment is cracking down on young criminals by tracking teens that they believe are troubled and then try to stop them before committing a crime the new york times says police do this by frequently dropping by teens schools and home sometimes just to say hi the idea is that this will deter teens and their friends from committing crimes and according to the report police also monitor young people's facebook and twitter pages officers can become friends with the teen by making a fake profile of an attractive young girl to bait them now this is all supposed to make dangerous neighborhood safer but have police just taken it too far i'm joined

now by j.d. to chile managing editor at reason twenty four seven hi there j.d. solo what do you think it is this a violation of teens privacy. well it's a mixed bag and leave it to the n.y.p.d. that's a goldfish neighborhood policing and make it a little bit creepy a lot of this is kind of common sense i mean the cops should get out of their cars they should interact with the neighborhood so she had to know the people who they're supposed to protect and that's a good part and then all of a sudden you're setting a fake twitter accounts to pretending to be teenage girls they do everything pretty much short of taking an undershirt home and putting on but they're still there what do you think about that using social media sites to kind of track these teenagers that they believe are kind of risky hey our social media sites fair game for police to track track these politics since to the extent that the material is public i mean let me believe the settings on the social media open to the public and that is fair game if you're on the internet you're on the internet but when you start pretending to be somebody else to trick the girl you're kind of trolling for

response no of us in your gauge and surveillance it's not just neighborhood bully city more you're not just getting into your car very friendly and getting to know the people in the neighborhood and that's when it gets creepy right now some of these kids are my understanding is that these kids that they are monitoring and they have been caught for committing crimes before so is it fair for police to keep a close eye on them considering their history to a certain extent yes and apparently there's some decent results and the stand that out of but one hundred seven kids i think it was only before seeing there were recidivists that's a lot lower than the standard rates of repeat crimes and i think that there's something to be said for real community policing where the cops take part of the neighborhood so there are there's good effects from this they really are it's not completely. but when you start like a setting gauge and surveillance something to be other people will start inserting sort of people's lives against their will as opposed to becoming further lies with their knowledge that it steps over so it sounds like you agree with the premise the

idea that is there but they're kind of just taken it a little bit too far. if you work you do your own tricks to get i'd you're going to get what you yeah this program that i mean as you had said it's getting results these these kids that they target apparently they're not committing crimes again based on other rates previous rates so i mean could you only have expect this program to expand to other cities across the country kind of this as a model for a new way of policing. well to the extent that it shows results i would think that it would be replicated and i would hope that some parts of the replicated i think the police should get out of those programs or the police should walk the neighborhoods and there you to know people by their names and have their recognizable faces these are good things if we see police departments across the country setting up fake twitter accounts. facebook accounts and surveillance on people really inserting themselves in people's lives you know an unsavory way i

think then we start getting a problem or we'll have pushback on that yeah and i hate to see them take it that far because there's good parts of this that really can and should be reviewed yeah and i think that part is where i think a lot of people will have a problem with because they're kind of pretending to be a good looking girl of but that's not really who they are obviously they're the police so i mean there is kind of a it's misleading right it's extremely misleading it's honest and it's going to start which i mean obviously you're going to react to that the police respond. they should react yeah but the other parts of it i mean the police you know take you for your lives on a friendly basis that sort of thing is a good thing and you should mix the two because you for the one with the other yeah a friendly hello can't can't hurt i suppose you know in this particular neighborhood that we're talking about and these are low income neighborhoods places where residents all are already suspicious of police we're talking about places where stop and frisk tactics like that have been used where police have been

accused of racial profiling so when you use a program like this primarily in these these kinds of neighborhoods could that only breed more resent men or suspicion among the residents there and the police force. well there certainly from a basis of suspicion and mission stop and frisk is there ever heard of brownsville in brooklyn and he's farland would she have been targeted by the police for stop and frisk or that you know that they just kind of jump people in the street and ship them down that right there on the sidewalk this seems like a program that at least to me even that was an improvement over the old street crimes unit which was basically engaging in crimes all by itself so there's a seriously a progression in the a better direction of this but they do have to overcome suspicion of established the yes you know get past that in order to have better relationships for these communities and bring the crime rates down to what are really not just for their boards but troubled neighborhoods and yet another thing that i wanted to bring up as what the team that they track our teams that created these are committed these

crimes in other neighborhoods neighborhoods outside of the neighborhoods that they live dead and what is behind that. well they're trying to bring the crime rate down across the city if you try to get the most bang for the book so they are the folks not just on kids of crew members the kids are good at some of the neighborhood and contribute to the city ward. so i think that with what looks like a pilot program to try to get the largest results they possibly can i understand that i mean that does make sense if you want to lower the growth rate the extent possible so you can get results with this program. where you know where the real test of that is to the extent the extends program how they do expand it and what they do with it in the future and since we're looking at a pilot now we're seeing kind of the early stages of it we don't know what they might have in mind once they decide it does or does not work now i mean i guess we'll have to see how that how this all plays out if it continues to be a tactic that works appreciate you shedding some light on this that was j.t. kelly a managing editor at reason twenty four seven there starting you know. coming up

and thirty minutes as breaking the sat with abby martin here in our tale let's check in with abby to see what is on today's agenda abbi what are you working on over there we're working on a really baller show liz we're going to be talking to a pack of america's really public affairs committee annual conference in town kind of their their doings that bill they're trying to push through congress that has twenty one co-sponsors already that will basically say that the u.s. will support a preemptive invasion of iran israel deems it necessary so that is a really interesting precedent that is being set by a pack of lobbying hard for that to happen we're also talking about the waitress who was kind of scolded by a pack committee member at busboys and poets had a very good temper i had. argued about how ridiculous that was god was much more coming up next breaking the set right abbie thanks for that that was that's coming up in a half hour to an end. and we are going to turn now to that breaking news we brought you earlier in the show out of venice wayland where president hugo chavez has died

there year old socialist leader has been battling cancer since two thousand and eleven chavez was venezuela's present. for over fourteen years and was re-elected for another term last october and election for the now vacancy should be held within thirty days and we will continue to follow this breaking news story and bring you the latest tonight's on the news at eight pm c.s.t. tuned right here we're going to leave it out there but for more on the stories we covered you can always check out our you tube channel you tube dot com slash r t america and our web site r t dot com slash usa of course you can always follow me on twitter i always keep you updated with the stories that i'm working on stay tuned for breaking the seven just a half hour tune in for the news at eight pm.