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hello liberal rumble joining me tonight patrick hedger and adam bitly let's get back to it you guys heard the congressman's position and basically i think it's really simple if you kind of summarize it companies want to move into communities or starting communities that have good schools that have good power that have good roads that basically have good infrastructure ever since the reagan administration basically the federal government and many of the states have stopped building infrastructure we haven't built schools or hospitals very in this in any kind of big way since the seventy's really and isn't it time we got a two trillion dollar infrastructure deficit in the united states and conservatives agree with that that's not a number that's in dispute isn't it time we do something about it i think the best way to do something about that is lower the corporate tax rate and because i think that's the thing that's choking business from getting back into the area you have one hundred sixty six billion dollars that was moved offshore in the last tax year that we know of so that would have been this is twenty thirty twenty eleven ocean in the twenty eleven tax year that was moved offshore by american companies who do
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no business offshore like you know like big banks for example the bank of america has over one hundred foreign subsidiaries just so they can avoid paying american taxes so functionally their tax rate is zero i don't see where that has caused them to start building highways or or broadband systems or you know light posts in neighborhoods well that's people using these corporate income tax loopholes and they're doing that so that they can invest what they have in creating jobs and creating profits so there's not a doubt of do it in infrastructure they have no incentive to be able to produce the profits that can be taxed to produce the infrastructure that we're we're yearning for and the tools are your help here where where are where are these corporations building infrastructure there's a complete lack of incentive that exists for the corporations to build the infrastructure the government has they ever built infrastructure or private roads existed for the most part for the first couple hundred years of our own not going to my farm to your farm when we were a rural community in these private term pipes that connected to. other towns that
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were fifty miles apart those that existed before only has really few and far between in public well there was also not only because of the duration but they were among the first things that i found yet the other one i telling you is that the incentive for a company to come out just built these things is completely socked away because the government has taxed everybody to build these things and provide them there was never and so you don't pay my way it's a limb by the way we live here in the this bubble d.c. and i have not noticed a shortage of of construction projects now we can argue about the amount of lanes that might be needed out of the capital beltway and three ninety five but there is construction happening all over the place when you look at infrastructure and i'm saying this is about the big problem is right now is when you get the government considering and propositions and budgets like the representative. congressman ellison progressive budget you get away from the government talking about what must be done and what could be done instead of saying oh we must build
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a bridge here they think well my gosh look at all this new revenue they were sucking out of the economy think about all the bridges we could build and those aren't permanent jobs and those are necessary jobs and we tend to forget about the money that's taken to build a bridge we only could build and not a bridge that we need is money being taken away from somebody else whether it's being taken from corporate profits or it's taken from my income taxes that money is affecting my economic decision is you're not going to make that money if a bridge doesn't take customers to your commute guess what we just saw this to shovel ready projects back in two thousand and nine we do solve this big infrastructure investment and it didn't pan into this huge job created started we were we were losing seven hundred thousand jobs and we did it then but we've had twenty year which over thirty. consecutive well yes traditionally there is link bridge at the end of the year rebuild it started with the george washington administration to today no i've obviously that's absurd but throughout the history of america we've said there's this thing called the commons we have common roads like i said article one section eight provide. for the manufacture of the disputing
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this ok so you know we have to you know i think all of our system should be pressing ok let's have let's say we didn't keep elton's way let's say he's out there and he gets all the bridges built all this stuff so those are temporary jobs now where's the other jobs come from what happens when those jobs and we just were ready projects that it did not turn into long term job creation he always says if it had i would just simulate i would i would disagree that it did because if you look at the labor force participation rate that hasn't returned the actual unemployment rate for simming that the same number of people were actually trying to enter the labor force is when george w. bush was president and i'm not it was something like residency the actual unemployment rate with the labor force participation rate at the rate that it is it's closer to ten and a half percent i don't disagree at all in fact i'd say it's closer to fourteen percent and adam your point was that if we build all these bridges and two trillion dollars of the bridges somehow if we could magically do that a year at the end of the year all those jobs are gone i don't disagree with you
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actually you know i disagree with you just a minute ago i would i didn't i didn't get your point but that that point made i would say two things number one it's going to take a hell of a lot more than one year to repair two trillion dollars or infrastructure and number two once that infrastructure is in place and again go to any other developed country in the world or simply look around in america at all the stuff that was built over the lot you talk about the city the city was built over the last two hundred years all and it used to be a swamp so you know we collectively built this city and now there's a place where the spire museum can open a retail shop but right i mean that's like small businesses grow they put their roots into the soil of infrastructure sure but the infrastructure has been being built and we're going to hear as i did this way across the country to put this this myth exists that if we invest in infrastructure which looks sexy at the time we're spending a lot of money we can go down on the job site look there's these people working and you get to see if you get some value out of it no this is what happens when you have to. hospital are a way to produce and the remedy is
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a little short of two years and look sexy when they run for reelection you know what i'm all in favor of spending money on schools and that's something that we're doing in this country we're actually spend more than any other country per capita per student and that's resulted in really pad test scores for like the past twenty years so i don't think that the government is the most effective investor of this money sure there might be a need for bridges but the government when it takes this money when it's taking forty thirty nine forty percent of it is not just the profit the most for capita per student in fact ins in singapore and the two countries that have the best educational outcomes in the world teachers are paid more than doctors well that's the teacher's salary i'm talking about overall spending on education i mean we're spending a ton of money on education we're very wealthy country and we have huge property taxes locally to pay for education it's not panning out the thing is that people are structured a very diverse structure is to worry the most effective infrastructure to be the most effective has to have businesses willing to use that infrastructure and when
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you're taxing people at the highest rate in the world they're not going to use the big beautiful american infrastructure they're going to use the japanese emperor starcade just a major disaster is all we are out of the thirty four industrialized countries in the world we are second from the bottom in terms of the taxes that corporations actually pay right because the rate so high they're not paying taxes here they're exploiting loopholes and they're moving overseas so they're not paying the taxes you're you're looking at the net aggregate islands that are being paid and of course you're going to make less money on a forty percent tax rate versus a twenty percent tax rate all of that's why our net aggregate their arms are lower there they're drilling they're drilling loopholes in our tax loopholes and lower their overseas let's talk about overshot as jimmy carter said he went to bed as well as the carter center checked out the elections both the elections that chavez and the response and said he's ever seen in fact they were you know they were unable to verify some of the elections in the united states later than an american elections. took all this oil wealth that he used to build schools to lift people out of poverty and actually did the poverty rate has. declined radically the halmos
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was declined radically people are healthier people are you know all the indices of a healthy society. but if you hear that you can't it's pretty popular it's low but so all that sort of chavez you know he got elected with a big majorities i mean bigger majorities than any president the united states has been elected a long long time what's easy to do when you're censoring the media and always that censor in the media there's a very very active and aggressive i think that's kind of a matter of opinion because there are several other people that say that he has made taken several initiatives to kind of silence the opposition the media but to get back to the point of us not the overall health of venezuela i mean there if you can certainly dealing with a huge outbreak of dengue fever they're dealing with curable disease in their own miami right now there are massive outbreaks of diseases that are perfectly curable because the government sure is not curable there is no cure for it there are there are preventative measures and we don't have huge outbreaks of angry or in any event if he were is traveling it's moving out of the editorial regions as a consequence of global warming i mean you want to talk about dengue fever talk
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there i was right on exxon mobil i don't think that the government is in the best position to centrally planned the way this money is spent what she hugo chavez did was say i know better than you but i could spend this why the baddies and cat instead of socialized and nationalize all these industries but right now you know now he's nationalized the agriculture industry and they have flour shortages are not going to make bread without the flour we give the work for free i decided state what he did say by our government what a. smart move what he said was the oil under the ground off our shores is the property of our country and when we pump that oil he did the exact very similar to what sarah palin did you know. sarah palin wrote a check for two thousand dollars to every single person live don't last quote from the alaska permanent fund which was taking money from the oil reserve that that's a terrible policy it's your you do screw the policy see i most chavez sarah palin fan i think the shot as sarah palin policy about one person of this nation is now they have every. nationally ok all right this is
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a well we'll leave it that big box retailer cosco they had a profit of five hundred thirty seven million last quarter up from three hundred ninety million in the same quarter last year so they're doing good and their c.e.o. jack craig jelinek just suggested to our lawmakers to congress that the minimum wage should not go to the nine dollars that obama called for in his words state of the union address as i recall instead it should go to ten dollars and ten cents. makes sense though it doesn't affect you know if i'm a businessman and his position i'm going to want to push it up to ten eleven twelve i'm going to put my competitors out of business i may not be able to dig wal-mart or sam's club but i'll be able to do you know the average joe average worker away costco just to your point so that people know you're talking about your average worker cosco last year in two thousand and eleven last year we have numbers for made forty five grand the average worker wal-mart makes seventeen thousand five hundred ok so doesn't change the point where this guy's actually going to create higher unemployment by supporting
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a policy that is just making money forty five thousand dollars which is going to hire all these people that are put out of work he should be more they were very happy for everyone at costco that is benefiting from the success of that business but at the end of the day we've got this big problem in this country where we see oh my gosh look how well john is doing and we tend to forget how bad fred sally and suzy are doing or how the policies that are benefiting john say why are those three this is why we're to the highest you know it's not it's not is it why do we give corporations things like the right to write off meals and limited liability why don't we give them all those forced them to pay such a high wage scale when i was just i was just simply do i do we do we give them a lot of tax breaks because this town the bubble that's created this town is corporations are hanging off the going to get x. rays and i'm talking about a limited liability the basis of a corporation why do we say you can do business this way we do it because it's going to work in the public good there's a you know this from the founding of this republic is only one let's do it so this is congress. as elected officials it's not so what so the american government is
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not your government no it's my government when i make no what's there at the idea of not voting at the end of the day we've got to get back to the point that a lot of these even with the infrastructure projects that in then also raising the minimum wage it comes back to this inherent economic fallacy where we only kind of look at joe construction worker at no. point was more policy if we're even giving all these benefits to corporations in the hopes that they'll operate in the public good shouldn't we at least have some threshold for that should we say if you can't afford to pay somebody ten dollars and ten cents an hour you have no right to this right and so we're going to tell that person that would be employed by the person making less than ten dollars ten cents an hour you're not entitled to the job that could be provided to all your logic is flawed you're assuming that people get their jobs out of the goodness of their heart they don't let's say that they do get this ten dollars to get it which i would highly predict that there's going to be hired employment you're never going to be happy and you will not have have any examples in history and we'll look at it but i really. thank you thanks for having us
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appreciate it. after the break the taliban is in washington there holding our government hostage i'll explain that and still take. let me let me i want to know we're going to let me ask you a question from. here on this network is what we're having a debate we have our knives out if. we do this right it was just about staying there to get here in a situation where being i don't want to talk about the surveillance me. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for lengthly you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture
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. here is mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that we americans call a dog. i'm sorry i'm just a guy who cares an awful lot about what country music stars are through you know what that is my other terrorist cells in your neighborhood all want to keep us safe to feature isn't the only liberal and the christian public just because your beliefs about it because it's going to school for you to distract us from what you and i should care about because they're profit driven industry that sells a sensationalistic garbage he calls it breaking news i'm happy martin and we're
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going to break this that it's. looking good every day doc in the field that we won't find it here if you're looking for relevant stories unique perspective from top class tends to start. welcome back yesterday almost every republican on the senate judiciary committee voted against a lot of crackdown on gun traffickers but one surprising group of gun the gun retailers doesn't agree with the g.o.p.'s opposition to the new federal gun control laws korda think progress eighty eight percent of gun retailers recommended stronger sentences for gun trafficking and recommended a specific sentence for an individual convicted of buying fifty firearms for a trafficking operation and four hundred seventy eight of the five hundred ninety one retailers surveyed recommended a sentence of ten years or
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a fine of fifty thousand dollars and nearly eighty percent of those question recommended both jail time and once again we see that public opinion even of those in the gun industry is completely opposite of what the n.r.a. the front group for the gun manufacturers and the republicans want us to believe they don't represent gun owners or even gun dealers they only care about gun lobby money from major gun manufacturers but the good news here is that the gun measures received enough votes despite republican opposition to send the bill out of committee. just. the. is the good the bad of the very very lateral miss the only ugly good elizabeth warren the rookie senator from massachusetts kept her winning streak going tuesday when she lambasted
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congressional republicans for once again blocking the confirmation of richard cordray as head of the consumer financial protection bureau lawrence comments were straight into the point quote the american people deserve a congress that worries less about helping big banks and more about helping regular people who have been cheated on mortgages on credit cards on student loans on credit records a strong consumer financial protection bureau is necessary to keep the big banks of the predatory lenders who wrecked our economy in line without a forceful leader like cordray it's just another directionless washington agency the fact that republicans won't even bring his nomination to a vote demonstrates the true extent of their allegiance to wall street and big business in this age of austerity and crony capitalism the american people deserve representatives like senator warren who tell it like it is good on you senator warren lucky to have you the bad guy pat fagan in the family research council
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nobody really expects pat fagan and his colleagues at the family research council to provide insightful policy analysis but is tuesday appearance in washington watch was an embarrassment even by his own mind numbing standards fagan the single most destructive decision in the history of supreme court was in one thousand nine hundred seventy two when the court officially recognized the right of unmarried partners to obtain contraceptives eisenstadt who says. that's right buying condoms for you him is worse than stealing elections which is what the court did in bush v gore and worst thing categorizing people as. property the corps did an eight hundred fifty seven with dred scott what were these people living. and the very very ugly steve emerson. he didn't know the bugs the brotherhood runs america or your right wing conspiracy theorist extraordinary steve emerson the muslim brotherhood has penetrated virtually all institutions of the united states would he
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lawyer unwittingly a lot of us the department of justice hollywood the media the state department the publishing industry. actually steve it's the other way around the n.y.p.d. and other police departments across the country have spent the last decade infiltrating the muslim communities across the country tearing apart friendships destroying any hope of a normal life the fact the right wing nut jobs jobs like emerson continue to promote the worst sort of islamophobia lies at the same time as one foresman agencies treat the entire american muslim community as a fifth column is just a theory. thanks. crazy alert with the world cup a year away soccer fans all over are getting their tapes together in a last ditch effort to try and steal a spot on their national team check up the skills of this fit.
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well the way that the actual taliban works is they keep people stupid women or witches jews or other species westerners are degenerate only the wise and powerful taliban leaders know what the koran really says because they're the only ones who could read write or tell anybody else what's real there was a time when the muslim world was in light of the invented the writing and math that we use today they were the center of the world for science but then in some places the taliban took over and don't for a minute think it's really all about religion religion is used to manipulate the useful idiots it's really about money power and control and that can only be held by thugs like the taliban when the people are kept poor and stupid here in america there's a new taliban rise they fetishizing guns just like the afghan taliban they fear women just like the afghan taliban and they hate education just like the afghan taliban they want to keep the people stupid and in chains. here america the
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plutocrats and the billionaires who rose to power on the heels of reagan's trickle down economics and now it's trickling down to the rest of the nation is stupidity. as mark morford wrote for the san francisco chronicle's blog eight six percent of americans believe in unicorns thirty six percent believe in u.f.o.'s a whopping twenty four percent believe dinosaurs and man hung out together eighteen percent still believe the sun revolves around the earth nearly thirty percent believe cloud computing involves actual clouds a shockingly said eighteen percent of this very day believe the president is a muslim you believe in angels forty five percent of americans do in fact roughly forty eight percent republicans democrats alike believe in some form of creationism . so why do americans believe in such absurd things well because we're being taught these ridiculous beliefs in our nation's schools and hearing them from our corporate ties and media all across america our children are learning from the
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curriculums put out by the plutocrats and the billionaires in louisiana for example children learn about how hippies were dirty rock musicians worship satan and climate change just one big lie but america's new taliban isn't just controlling what's being taught in our classrooms they're also dictating what's been shown on america's billionaire back to corporate ties media that's where the likes of rupert murdoch come in thanks to murdoch millions of americans are subjected to the mountains of misinformation and half truths the poor out of fox so-called news on a daily basis used to be a time in our country when the mainstream media actually had to report on the news but times have changed in one thousand nine hundred six reagan ended the f.c.c. doctrine that required radio and t.v. stations to actually carry real news as a public service and within two years of that time the money losing news divisions of the networks had become had come under the network entertainment divisions and
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all the news decisions since then have been made based not on what's news or what people need to know but on ratings oh and the following year rush limbaugh started his radio show and now plutocrat extraordinary as the car brothers are looking to buy several major american newspapers so that they can dictate what americans read in the morning paper the koch topos is interested in buying the tribune company newspapers which includes the chicago tribune the baltimore sun and the los angeles times created a hollywood reporter the koch to pose as quote a quote quote interested in the clout they could gain through the times editorial pages and quote now i can talk about all this openly here because most of the people who will vote for the new american taliban don't bother to inform themselves with the real news don't engage in critical thinking and don't want to know what's really going on in the world stuff we talk about on the show. love their ignorance their bigotry and most of all their fox news from thomas jefferson to john kennedy
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we have always as a nation held high the ideal of a quality education for everybody as jefferson wrote in a letter george with his mentor and seven hundred eighty six i think by far the most important bill in our whole code is that for the diffusion of knowledge among the people no other sure foundation committee of eyes for the preservation of freedom and happiness preach my dear sir a crusade against ignorance establish and improve the law for educating the common people j.f.k. championed the importance of education as well. the american people all of us. one hundred. one or two thirds of every new hospital the national government we pay fifty five percent of all the research we help young men become doctors. we are concerned with the progress of this country this is the only way we can secure action to keep this country moving ahead to have places to educate our
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children to have decent housing to do something about the millions of young children who leave our schools before they graduate. today america faces a choice we could hand our country over to the new taliban and watch as the plutocrats and billionaires consolidate even more wealth power and control over information in our country. or we can fight for progressive america where there is universal high quality education for all a strong social safety net and a broad and strong middle class is choice looms large in the current budget debate the republican budget cuts funding to education cuts the social safety net and makes the rich richer while making the poor and the middle class poorer meanwhile the democratic budget requires the rich to pay something a little bit closer to their fair share and uses those funds to strengthen education the social safety net and frankly the middle class so america it's up to
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you your choice do you want the billionaire backed republican tal a ban in control or democratic america where unicorns and dinosaurs are only talked about in children's fantasy books. and that's the way it is tonight wednesday march thirteenth two thousand and thirteen for more information to the stories we covered visit our website to tom harkin dot com free speech or. if you missed any infamous show you can now watch it on hulu at hulu dot com slash the picture also check out our two youtube channel is there a link to tarpon dot com also target accounts are all there are ways you can send us your feedback and don't forget democracy begins when you get out there get active occupy something tag you're it.
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