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thanks for sticking with us here on r t half past the hour now since latvia gained independence veteran nazis have controversially rallied on every every year on the sixteenth of march in memory of those they call freedom fighters despite attempts by ringo's mayor to ban the demonstration of court recently overthrew the decision fuelling tension between the fascists and latvian waffen s.s. veterans or he's like sarah chefs he has more. it was born in a prison in franco's fascists he and his parents were repressed by that regime so he was hurt when he learned that says veterans marched through the streets of lobbyist capital riga. all of europe fought so hard to eradicate fashion in spain and italy where it was one state ideology you would now never see even if

the stations which glorify now it's considered shameful what happens here in riga is totally incredible and outrageous. marches by former lothian s.s. legionnaires in riga are nothing out of the ordinary since lotty became independent they've been held every year the men who once fought on the side of nazi germany are seen as freedom fighters by some here a view which divides society in this post soviet state for many years this march had been forbidden by the cities of a core decision that overturned it and the market still took place this year the high court decided to strike first even before the mayor had to say the court said that the march must take place and force the mayor to apologize for all the yes he had been banning this march the masterminds of this march lot because nationalists say they want the younger generation to embrace their history and recognize their heroes. i'm especially proud to see so many young people today this is proof that

we're living in a free country which had been under occupation for many years. but many in europe simply cannot understand what appreciation of freedom has to do with three year olds walking alongside former nazi troops especially given that lot is a member of the e.u. which has no second opinion on fascism. as a member of the infamous an outside force for remembrance of the locals and it's very difficult to say it's very easy to non-fans that on one side you are a member of such an inbred. i'm going to dish and remember what happened seven years ago in order to avoid old children to repeat the mistakes of the easterlies and on the other side those people and to be the politicos to try to change the law to be as anti-fascist movement has been fighting these marches for

a decade with no success because they feared this movement is getting stronger as last year's economy gets weak and strengthening it is a well planned government tactic for the chicago but it's easy to bring up nationalist ideas to divert attention from economic troubles our parliament even wanted to make march sixteenth a national holiday of the latvian army this day had nothing to do with our army but in nazi germany march sixteenth it was called a day of heroes praising the army this speaks volumes to what our government does about this law it is anti-fascist have sent petitions to the european commission many times to help get these marches outlawed with no response so far putting pictures of nazi camps and lot to be where tens of thousands spare in the one nine hundred forty s. is yet another attempt to have their outrage recognized. reporting from riga in la to be. the oscar winning blockbuster argo has been weighed down

with dogs and gloria now iran wants to slap something else on it a lawsuit the country is apparently planning to sue the makers of the movie which chronicles the storming of the u.s. embassy in tehran in one nine hundred seventy nine and calling it distorted and unrealistically has a portrayal of their country to iran that says it's going to make its own true version of the events to counter what it calls the hollywood ism of the story filmmaker and blogger danny schechter thinks iran is throwing its popcorn not really all what it's not really about the film at all. it's a trap again but it's probably good that so much against iran but even that americans to sustain their fear of iran and also looks the most political part of it is also with its attack on hollywood which shows how empty the whole hollywood culture is in coming up with this phony movie that the plot is sort of based around you know this is just a. movie with that pop

a little overlay you know tying it into that is plopped in a rock and it basically is is propaganda for the cia more then against iran because iran has been treated one to me and chablis ears going back to the hostage crisis i think this whole battle is really not a battle argo but it's about policy american policy sanctions against the law the hostility between the two countries which this movie reinforces unfortunately scouring the red planet for traces of life in some daunting technical challenges and one of the toughest is digging deep in its soil that's the goal of a brand new mission that's just been agreed by the europeans and russian space agency's rover will be sent to mars in twenty eighteen to drill thirty times further below the surface than anything achieved so far with more on the ambitious plans are to easy or pissing off reports. this search for the past or present life

on mars screen to news and this time scientists are digging deep explore mars project is based on it to freeze exploration first in two thousand and sixteen russian proton heavy rocket to usually used for delivering satellites and space station components should blast off from lack of a cosmodrome in kazakhstan sending a european orbital pool and a stationary test lander to the red planet to his plan for two thousand and eighteen one a second proton rocket will deliver a rover named pastor after landing it will then begin tracing the life on mars this includes drilling two meters deep into the ground that's around six and a half feet to collect samples the mission's other objective is to study mars a service to find out what dangers there may be for future manned missions barrelful dust storms extreme temperatures radiation and so on are not exactly your ideal working conditions the european space agency has already invested over four

hundred million euro into the project which was initially supposed to be conducted with nasa but it backed out due to financial constraints russia on the other hand was happy to jump in and the science providing delivery vehicles including the a landing pod will also develop some of the same defect equipment so far the red planet has only been visited by soviet and us vehicles eggs or mars will be europe's first visit to the red planet this kind of r.t. if you minutes we hear from the former cia head michael hayden stay with us here on r.t. . wealthy

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he is a retired four star general of the u.s. air force and also served as director of america's national security agency and central intelligence agency joining our team now for an exclusive one on one interview is general michael hayden thank you very much for taking the time to speak with me today thank you i'd like to begin our discussion with major news events that took place last week that event the death of venezuelan president hugo chavez now mr chavez was known for his hard line stance towards the u.s. he even accused the cia once of plotting to kill him will relations with them as well ah be troubled if vice president nicolas maduro says seeds chavez as

president you know one fears that they might one also hope that they might not i think president chavez of a very strong populous clearly very popular and some said next we're going to run in society he took an awful lot of the support off a lot of his identity simply by being by appearing to be in opposition to the north just as an opposition to to the united states and whether or not we were causing him problems it was convenient for him to accuse us of causing them problems i actually think the problem for right now that they have the benefit of our structural although he enjoyed a wide popular support among the poorer classes he did not do much to reinvest to reinvest in the infrastructure reinvest in the oil industry which state resources depend and so i think the new president is going to have to take a very realistic look at what he needs to do in order to carry out even to continue some of the policies of his predecessors which was you know i mean i may be firm

some elements of strong social justice but you can't share things you don't have you have to create and that requires greater cooperation with the. the private sector and other segments of venezuelan society and frankly greater cooperation with the united states let's shift gears now and move on to another topic that's been dominating the headlines that topic being drones of course due to the nomination of john brennan as cia director now u.s. drones have reportedly killed thirteen hundred people in pakistan since obama came into office those people not just terrorists but a lot of civilians too this has outraged pakistan an ally of the u.s. medic many critics say that the u.s. drone campaign is actually inciting a lot of hatred towards america and breeding terrorism and terrorists do you believe drones are the right weapon in the war on terror and are they being

used in the right way now this is a complex question and it doesn't allow the simple answer richard haass president of the council on foreign relations said something very interesting in an interview in which i was a participant richard said when it comes to targeted killings in the use of drones he's looking not for a switch but for a dial and i think that's actually very profound that's i think that's very insightful look we are we believe we are a nation at war we are at war with al qaeda and its affiliates this war is global in scope and we have both a right and a duty to take this fight to the center me wherever they may be and in some cases that requires targeted killing and some of the ungoverned spaces that remain on the planet now for the longest time the immediate effect of a targeted killing that you have as as we say we have taken off the battlefield someone already convinced trained and prepared to do harm to the united states that

immediate effect trumped everything else that that effect was overwhelming in terms of the calculus one had to make as to whether you. should do this or not do it but even then three four years ago even then we realized that wasn't the only effect there were also second and third order effects effects on our allies effects on the willingness of others to cooperate effect on al qaeda recruitment effects on the global image of the united states and no i think it's fair to say that those second and third order effects they're becoming more prominent in terms of the overall effect of an individual action but you've got to turn the dial you've got to take into consideration the second and third order effects before you make the decision to take this kind of action you say that the u.s. is a nation at war when does this war and when is it in the success what needs to be accomplished for the u.s. not to be a nation at war any longer that's

a great question and it's one with been asked by my countrymen were war tell me when i'm finished let me know how i've won i understand and and i know there will come a point at which folks like me with my background and my experience need to go to our political leaders and say you know folks the war paradigm served us very very well but it was not without its own cost it was not without its own effects and now i think we have pushed this threat down to such a level that the war paradigm is no longer that useful to us and we need to move into a law enforcement or an international cooperation kind of program now to round this out i think that will come some day that day is not today you served as director of the cia for nearly three years and you were still in that position when u.s. president barack obama took office there were reports that he was on about using

drones excessively and you had to persuade him. tensions possibly running high at that time is there any truth to those reports it's very difficult for. to talk about specific operations or to confirm or deny things that my government hasn't confirmed or denied but i think in general i think i can give you this statement with the exception of detention interrogation which of course became a very popular and well known cause with the change of administration. president obama embraced very strongly much of the war on terror strategy that president bush was conducting during president bush's second administration clear he just said there's no longer word care if you will be also said he did but it's very interesting he used the phrase we used internally right internally the phrase was we are at war with al qaeda and its affiliates and that was our operational expression of the president's more public global war on terror so fundamentally

nothing really changed in terms of what the security structures in the united states were doing there's not a new discussion regarding drones that's being had in that has to do with the topic of anonymous drones some recent examples of of that include two drone attacks that took place in pakistan last month those attacks reportedly killed nine people including two al qaeda operatives now. immediately filed a complaint a protest with the american embassy but u.s. officials came back and said look we're not responsible for that attack that we haven't had any activity in pakistan since january and the pakistani government says it wasn't us and there's now no clear way to know who was operating those drones in pakistan do you believe that this drone warfare this drone campaign that the u.s. has been leading will eventually open up

a pandora's box of anonymous jones because as of last month there are over forty fifty countries that are now using drones well that's a great question and i know the incident incidents you're referring to and. you have to understand i'm not a government of four years i only know what i read in the newspapers but i find it quite curious. what does it teach me what does it suggest to my thinking one thing is that troubled region of pakistan is cheese was i know what is exercising sovereignty it's also great for as you point out in the. use of unmanned aerial vehicles you've got a god given american right. other nations will fall i mean we have been leading the technology here but the technology is not all that daunting other countries will follow on our footsteps that puts a great deal of pressure on the united states in terms of how it actually conducts itself with these weapons we are indeed setting precedent that others will almost

certainly fall president obama is no longer running for a second term in office or running to keep his job some would say he's running now for the history books do you believe he should deliver on his promise to close guantanamo bay i actually think the promise was a mistake right now i realize there are a range of views within my country on that but i go back to the premise and by the way president obama agrees with the present promise we are a nation at war he said that consistently otherwise he couldn't do many of the things that he is now authorizing us to do you have to begin with the war paradigm one of one of the aspects of armed conflict is the right to detain enemy combatants so my debate with president obama is not that he hasn't lived up to his promise to close it. but i think the promise to close it was unwise by the way you realize that we reduced the prison population at guantanamo during the bush administration

far more dramatically than has been done in the obama administration i mean we understood the branding issue that was going tunnel but we also understood we were at war i mean look on labor day weekend for your viewers that's the first weekend in september here in the united states and two thousand and six i moved fourteen prisoners from cia detention sites the so-called black sites to guantanamo i needed a place to put the guantanamo was a perfectly legal perfectly acceptable place recent polls are showing that only fifteen percent of selected muslim countries approve of president obama's foreign policy is that dangerous is that troubling and anyway it courses it's not a popularity poll i mean we're not out there to be loved something george w. bush said right was i mean draw a comparison and thirty nine years a military officer so i go back

a long way i remember something called the cold war and i bet you many of your viewers remember it as well and during the cold war we actually talked about the close fight and the deep fight and here in the cold war the deep fight was largely illogical and it was about western views towards economics and political democracy and soviet views and frankly that was argued very strongly between the two groups but one that was argued. mike hayden from pittsburgh pennsylvania had a legitimate view on communism because whatever else communism may or may not have been it was a western philosophy and so when we entered that conversation my views had legitimacy because i was speaking from my own cultural tradition. in the current war the deep has to do with something going on inside islam no it's very hard for my caden from pittsburgh to enter into

a discussion about islam i have no legitimacy in fact fact when i do enter in that discussion i make things worse. because i have no authenticity and making that kind of comment so what we see going on no i think is a struggle within islam it's the struggle that all the monotheisms have gone through christianity judaism and islam and it's a struggle with modernity. drawing your viewers too far back into history. christendom went through this in the seventeenth century at the end of the thirty years war when we decided you know we've got plenty of reasons to fight with one another but let's not include religion in the list any more right and we embraced a more secular approach we separated the sacred from the secular i think islam is going through that great debate now but that debate is within islam and we'll have to see how it turns out sorry that's a very long answer but i think that's really what's going on you've most recently spoken about the threat of cyber warfare and you said that it's coming from china

but what about groups like anonymous this is tension is something that the chinese have armed they've worked for over the years the mandiant report that came out about two weeks ago that focused very heavily on one particular unit in the people's liberation army that worked for. the third bureau there pale way through as we call it i had a i had someone a colleague of yours from your profession called me up and say wow this man that report is big news and i said well it's big. but it's not news i mean anybody who's been doing this knows what the chinese have been doing now to be more accurate the chinese even stealing stuff they have not been using the sergeant name to create damage or destroying networks or or things like that but they've been stealing stuff on an unprecedented scale know all right through them one day all nations do this i was the head of the american organization that did this for the united states and frankly we're quite good at it but we and some other nations

around the world self limit we still secrets out there in the server demain to keep americans free and to keep them safe. we don't do it to make them rich we don't do it for commercial benefit. well let me rephrase that it's espionage and espionage is an accepted international practice when that mandiant report came out. somewhere say but we the hands of the united states are not clued in the u.s. has also played a huge role in cyber espionage and even some sang that the u.s. had a major role in the stocks that attack allegedly carried out by washington and tel aviv against iran so isn't the u.s. in some way throwing stones when it lives in a glass house i don't even speculate given my background on who may or may not have

been responsible for stocks it but i do agree with the premise of your question it's a really big deal i mean if someone just used a weapon comprised of ones and zeros to knob the practical description was to take over the control system in advance and destroy thousand centrifuges which i view is almost a non avoid good but i can rephrase that sentence and say someone during a time of peace just use a cyber weapon to destroy another nation's critical infrastructure. well that's an important development yeah i fully understand the import of the fact of stuxnet and leave alone who may or may not have done so i will have to leave it right there general michael hayden thank you very much for your time thank you. it's.

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