trying to win these nonaligned countries over to their side to drive a wedge into the movement hugo chavez worked hard to unite developing states his contribution is really great and i was lucky to have worked with him on this track however we have not been able to overcome the centrifugal forces even in the nonaligned movement due to various reasons so i would not overestimate our efforts and say that we and hugo chavez in particular made huge progress in that area nevertheless he shook up latin america almost all the leaders there are left wing and they all came to pay their last respects to chavez this is a very clear proof of his legacy and when he is gone he set it going latin america now boasts unique in strong leaders take ecuador's rafael correia for example he is an economist an intellectual a very powerful personality take the women presidents in brazil in argentina they're quite active too i won't go as far to say that this process has become

irreversible but it will impact the whole world as well as latin america you can't just ignore it similar trends can now be observed in africa asia and other regions of course the contribution of charges was significant but you shouldn't overestimate it what i mean is that this movement for freedom independence and justice will not wind down now that he's gone no way but of course his role was essential see what it would take a look at the next well chavis was not the only popular figure there are one or two key opposition figures well known to the world but in case of valorous it's only look at the world knows sooner or later you will have to hand over the power to somebody else right how will that happen. it's a good immune researcher to be honest i never think in these terms i swore that i will never hand over the power to my relatives to my in-laws or children it's out of the question but the bottom line. is that you need to win

a fair election to get power i remember that i won my first poll as an opposition candidate it was a fair win just like all the following elections was won i've always played by the rules and i want people who come to power after me to do the same to win an election in a fair way so you're not preparing a successor for yourself to be honest i've decided for myself that i will not even support anyone publicly so it must be conducted in a fair way the people should elect their leader themselves when the time is right i remember that during your summit this is to vent chalice was still alive and he said we have a great holiday today because our guest is to president of belorussia look at shanghai and his son and then you told him that he was right in mentioning the boy because we need someone who will continue our case someone we can pass to baten to twenty or twenty five years from now. i didn't say pass the baton i said carry on our cause i do remember very well and i said it in

a very responsible way when i say carry on it doesn't mean he would just take the helm and go into the president's chair we have a million boys like junior and it's them who will continue the cause which. some time ago they will continue the work that i have been doing now here is what's on my record batteries has become a sovereign and independent state for the first time in our history has retained its independence for two decades this is the biggest accomplishment of the work done by my cabinets and we have created all the attributes of a state this except for a border with russia but we don't need it for the time being russia doesn't lay claim to our lands we don't see is a problem not apart from all the major institutions in components that make a state a state there are many generations have grown up since and more will grow up young people likely she and. junior will grow up so there will be people who continue all

cause frankly i didn't mean my son you must be thirty five to even qualify as a presidential candidate thirty years from now until most ninety if you quit if nicholai wants to make a career in politics will you support his choice. he is free to choose his profession but i would like him to become a politician he's eight now and he's seen enough of his father's presidency he's never had this idea that he would be president because his father was president so i never bring up this issue that's not a topic to discuss with children that's for my grown up sons they're pretty straightforward about it so we've had enough of your presidency they tell me so we never talk of a power handover with them and generally i never talk about it anywhere else why should i i'm still alive and kicking so i think i can carry on for some time. correct me if i'm wrong but i have here a quote of yours and you said i'm horrified at the thought that the belorussian

wealth that i have toiled so hard to create and preserve would we auction off did you mean the russian assets would be sold off when you're gone you're the one yes that's something i am afraid of does it mean that the system that you've set up is so fragile that it will collapse immediately after you're gone. i didn't mean the better reese would collapse as a state what i meant was state property the enterprises that underpin the economy agriculture which we have upgraded and you have to go back to the time when i first became president it was a time when we couldn't feed our own people we had empty shelves and there was no food on the table as i say today we have plenty of food for our people and our prices are much lower than in russia or ukraine or the e.u. today we export five billion dollars worth of produce annually we have invested a lot of money into two major upgrades in agriculture. new people in power decide to sell it off. salaries will face disaster and i want our industrial enterprises

or companies working in other sectors to be auctioned off for a penny i would like better reese to be run by a man who will not go to extremes bowed rather continue this cause domestic policy should be in line with the will of the people and the way of life which will emerge at that time not only in better ruth but in the whole world. by tell me honestly your political opponents to even take them seriously for example those still ran in two thousand and ten for a presidential election just what is to be honest i don't take them seriously these elections revealed who they really are so we had ten alternative candidates they only scored one point five to two percent when asked their score ok they might complain they were at a disadvantage or let's say five percent so how am i supposed to take them seriously if they come out and preach such nonsense that people don't even accept

it we didn't shut them down they preached their ideas on air even when they violated the constitution and called on everyone to take hayfork and crush the regime only eight hundred people came to the central square and that included four hundred permanent opposition activists that's it and then they really set out to crush the government building what you often say that democracy valorous is just as good as in america or europe absolutely who should probably have to cut it it will absolutely it's just as good trust me i can prove it right here right now that there is no dictatorship in bellary so that shall i very simply in just a few words this is the argument i used to convince my western partners in order to be a dictator like starlin one has to have the resources resources of paramount's you need to understand that i have any nuclear weapons exactly i do not do i have as much oil as. hugo chavez did in venezuela no no i have as much natural gas as

russia number two and so on and so forth do i have so many people as china does take one point five billion people would know the words in order to be a dictator in dictate one's will one has to have the resources economic social military relation and so on we have none and i am being objective about it i am telling you that we have no claims of global importance and don't see ourselves so having major global problems we don't have the resources to do so what we want to do is find our place in the sun and live as an average civilized european state that's all i want. what you were almost all well if that's the case how come no other significant political figure has emerged in the political scene in belarus over the last nineteen years. that's probably because the

current leader is strong enough and you don't see any others in his shadow i know want to sound immodest talk this question is not for me to answer unless of course we have what you call the opposition i call them the fifth column because they work for the benefit of someone other than their own country and they promote the agenda of those who finance them is acceptable what kind of people would support such opposition but you shouldn't worry the time will come and we'll have a new leaders. wealthy

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against you so i'm not going to repeat it. you know what you can if you like i don't mind i do know them very well that's certainly true. and so does everyone lack of political pluralism freedom of speech and so on and so forth and it's a long list but what i would like to ask you is why do you think your persona non grata there was live here and you don't. you know i visited venezuela recently and i had some time to think i did some reading on allies things and i thought of it as if i were defeating with the americans and the west in general so i say all right because she is persona non grata for you you need to know him mentary you also deny entry to both my eldest sons and even my youngest who is just a little boy what wrong could he have done this he have anything to do with the alleged wreaking of elections all of my children are completely excluded from the

election process how can they possibly just label them whatever it is they labeled that something bad obviously and simply panel from the european union if they care about human rights why do they abuse a human rights of my citizens so i can understand why they don't want to put up with. i can tell you the reason why they don't it's not because i'm a north or a terry leader although that may be true and it's not because they call me a dictator well they used to no one has been calling me a north or a tarion or dictator for a while to call me that because they have been instructed to do so by the us but it took that. but you so why then really. you're asking why me well you know when the new state of bell aris appeared on the map and claimed a place in the sun just like george another newly formed state. already been there didn't like you as they wanted that place in the sun for themselves and now they had to move over and someone happy about it but that's not the real problem then it

starts to go from bad to worse because shane criticised to take a hard stand for the state's independents. well everyone wants a piece of what valorise has to offer in terms of the economy they didn't like me taking a stand and so they started calling me all sorts of things but next we do not choose the track of buildings that a capitalist market driven economy where everything works around private property and you have to sell out the state's property into private ownership to make it work we don't do that we don't privatized everything some aren't happy about that we are a welfare state with a strong social policy of the social and economic policies like this you are very different from or the west would want us to have next we do have a rigorous political system that wouldn't allow things like a fist fight in parliament. when power is divided between entities like the bannerman and the government just the president ends up with no power lies and it's

easy then if it happens in a state you can stage fights and conflicts this clash on the people with the hind all this you can lay your hands on some valuable assets privatizing before anyone knows it so they don't like it that they can't do it for freedom of speech of liberalism and other such things but that can a serious how is it even possible not to have them with all the modern media around there is no way for instance that russia today is a channel i have any influence on if you like it you can watch it anyone can and there is also the internet our analysts have calculated fifty one percent of our active population are not active internet users how can i possibly keep their mouths shut i am more than anyone opposed to bans building when says and other such things you can win the fight if you stay strong if you're weak you better stay out of the fight because you're only going to get yourself and your state chased into

a corner so i don't want to sound like i'm being overconfident but i just want to say again i feel strong enough to fight and so. and up to any attacks on my family in my state my battery speaking of which two years ago you said germany and poland had conspired against valorous what conspiracy did you mean and what do they want from valerie i do remember it was right before the election the german foreign minister came to visit it was a high profile visit us for supposedly and that was it when the foreign minister was offended by your comments regarding his sexual orientation right on his being gay but why take your haunt if that's what you are did you know he was gay when you . were no i didn't i had no idea that my staff included in the memo that i didn't feel really need that why did you even bring up the sunday i didn't they did . and i simply responded he kept asking questions like moscow banned the gay pride

parade would you ban it if your people wanted one i replied you know i probably would let them do it downtown is a pretty i have them parade somewhere on the outskirts of the people want to maybe say something i basically don't mind lesbians but i definitely do mind the gays. women turn gay only when we are not good enough and what did he have to say about that they didn't say anything they just listened i didn't even see the look on their faces when the scandal broke out after they left my foreign minister told me right after mr look. you would have done better not to talk about that and why is that i asked and he said because he's one of the portugal and i said why didn't you tell me earlier he said i sent you a memo i just never finished reading it but did you think it helped or in the relationship between germany and. britain it wasn't about that they had previously approached me with basically a list of terms and conditions of the current we'll be friends with you if you do

this. and that and i responded yeah i can do this and this and that. i did most of the things they had required and that's exactly why i called them their requirements but they did nothing in return they simply found an excuse to talk themselves out of it the excuse being the incident when we dispersed that crowd of four hundred people tried to break into the government building there were a total of eight hundred four hundred runaway and the other four hundred stay and try to take out the doors at the entrance it was broadcast live how would any other country respond to that we didn't do anything like pool water on them on this cold day december nineteenth we didn't use tear gas we didn't show them or shoot rubber bullets at them as they do an e.u. countries we simply took measures to protect our government building and they use it as an excuse to talk themselves out of keeping the promises they had given me that's what it was about and nothing else suit. you mentioned

a few times at the start that you were previously called dictator but i looked through a lot of material listened to many interviews with you and i can say that ninety nine percent of those materials have a lead in or the word combination here ups last dictator in that you mention it yourself are you being ironic about it. exactly i can tell you how i did it i am to be interviewed by a western journalist and all that person knows about me that's what you just mentioned all these things that are published. as a dictator and even though he probably doesn't he people life he definitely needs women so here they come for the interview sit quietly opposite me a mention in passing the dictatorship thing lowkey but what i always did was bring it out and talk openly about it and i would tell them all right i'm being referred

to as a dictator but you might have quite an autocratic leadership style which is defined by the system of. giving it a thought why i chose this and built this kind of system when you think that there would be probably a simple good reasons for it will you perhaps try and see a good solid reason behind it you see no one has ever tried to look at it this way no one try to understand one very particular person has built such a strong autocratic system with which at the very least you use results by the way you did so ask for dictatorship i say to them you're very lucky to meet europe's last dictator alive in person i remember it was that something i probably won't see again that's the kind of irony i used. what's got honestly they do not care at all what the west and the united states have to say about you know in fact i do care because it's not just about let me tell if that's the country's image right you are

and you just said it correctly if you were only about me i would probably get hurt and say to hell with them but the thing is true that they are trying to hurt the entire nation the state so i can say i don't care at all although i should say i am not taking too much to heart and when they say dictator dictator i feel sorry for those who actually believe it when they say it is they don't even know that they are deluded about their reality and the person they're talking about that's the only thing i really feel bad about. after what you're what happened to lord bell man that you've hired to help improve the image of deleterious in the international community. is not the way it's being presented i won't go into all the details about lord well he was recommended by the way i am adamantly against the idea although many do it they try to improve their image with the help of p.r. people so it was the first and only time i agreed to meet

a person who does some kind of work writing things and i never even went into detail yet as to walk out sadly he does because we never paid him and he never charged us all he said was he wanted to talk and write something after the word got out that i had to do with image promotion that probably came from him or someone else and it was then misrepresented as if president had invited him to help push the country on to the right development track. which he was making a hard one i don't know either he or someone else. i don't even believe in the idea of someone coming over changing your image just like that. that's not something you can do overnight it takes more than a month or even a year changing your image takes a very long time changing your image and also takes more than just changing what others say about you that surname but the key here other things you do the actions

you take and that's something that can't be changed overnight let's. you know what else they say about the story with lord bell that he was actually introduced to you by be dissolved is that true. he didn't introduce us lord well arrived on his own but it's true the bear is also he was among those people who recommended him so there's a bit of truth in that a few days ago there actor of us national intelligence presented a report forecasting a possible new crisis for us in two thousand and thirteen would you agree with this is not a new model so why not say the same about america i could put it this way the global community including belarus may face a new economic crisis if it comes from its usual place of origin i.e. the united states the fact remains that europe has failed financially if that's true well and since europe accounts for half of our export turnover it's obvious that it's going to affect our economy our export turnover with russia is also

declining a little bit although there's no crisis as such in russia yet and so this is true even more so for georgia bellary see crain in other states the kind of real sectors of economy they have with no oil and gas of their own and the need to pay high prices for them that of course is a problem for us when the entire world's economy is going down so we have some reserves of our own and we'll use them if the need arises will make it should tell us in june the last crisis he resorted to requesting aid from the i.m.f. for example chavis he cut all ties with with their math and the world bank that was the right thing if he had enough resources he had the world's biggest oil deposits . ample natural resources he had all the reserves he need is why take loans and pay off interest. but he requested aid from china or not so he didn't join or maybe he did it for ideological reasons and china offered to help obviously for profit china

is probably venezuela's number one investor and they invest in the sectors of economy. it's golden oil in this instance and so was i met your last choice and you just couldn't help it it's just because they're imposing some political terms and valorous to do not welcome that's correct although that wasn't about the political terms it was about the tough economic terms they gave us but we managed to comply and overall they were right to do it of course it was tough on us but they fact required us to implement the same measures we actually had to take up anyway and had already started implementing this when you run out of money what sense does it make to increase spending on welfare benefits to keep inefficient business is running and so on and so forth where their approach was just to cut it all down ours was that is about the people involved and then we can't do it to them so abruptly so basically what they required was the same as what we did anyway the

only difference was they wanted to do it right away while we were taking a steady approach and by the way us supported our application for the loans without their involvement the i.m.f. wouldn't have given approval we successfully delivered on all the requirements and are now paying off the debt and we took the cheapest loans possible so i can already tell you anything else about that chavez probably refused to take loans because he had plenty of resources at hand and he probably also got loans in exchange for some future profits and benefits he could offer. thank you very much for this interview sir please don't call me sir i am no lord it takes too much money to become one mr very much for the interview my thanks to you for coming over to have a talk. a

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