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hello little rumble joining me tonight neil aspirate and horace cooper let's get back to it mayor bloomberg ban has crashed it was overturned on march eleventh on big sodas we now know more people in the united states die from big sodas than die from marijuana right we know that i doubt either one of you guys would argue that point with me so why don't we decriminalize marijuana well as people out of jail who are there for pot and say you know that works so well for the last forty years we're going to put the same penalties on high fructose corn syrup. i mean this is the rise of them that he stayed come by i generally i mean you have a series of scum i know you are and i know you are going with your long list about this sort of thing what's next do we do we do we ban mama leonis lasagna i mean that's a heart attack waiting to happen i mean or do you stop this i think mayor bloomberg was very i think it was obvious as there at thirty two ounces was a look
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a mother told as one of our mothers told us everything in moderation i mean if we want to take too much weak grass it'll probably kill us but you know we got it we got i do kate let's look at why don't you keisha you know ira it's an island i don't disagree that our children to live healthy i personally believe that their bloomberg exceeded his authority why this is something that should have been done by the. by the executive and i don't think he could have got it through the city council bad sad i think he's raised an important issue which is i think i'm a laughingstock as what he may he may not have i think that he's. going through and i've got no real issue with discussing the topic i'm fine with public service announcements those are times when government can do some good things reminding us how we ought to be more careful about these things but if when people like bloomberg go further than that in the side i'm going to tell you to day to day you may not purchase more of them sixteen ounces of a soft drink because i said so but just takes it to. ok so we know in america we
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know that roughly fifty thousand people a year die from alcohol abuse from cirrhosis the liver you know alcohol alcoholism a relation or and we know in the united states between four hundred five hundred thousand people a year die from tobacco abuse and so we tax both those products to discourage their use it's increasingly looking like the number of people in the united states every year who die from consuming. high sugar soft drinks is probably on the bottom end thirty to forty thousand on the high end for five hundred thousand but it's it's in that range of tobacco and alcohol shouldn't we start to have seen this stuff it's sugar and i mean it i mean with diabetes i mean there's a lot of people who do things they shouldn't do right what abilities are going to have on the lord sugar and isn't that part of living in these by the way tom our companies who are our tax paying companies who are employing people and they're living within the law america has the right operator american heart association says one hundred eighty thousand deaths by two worldwide but now they want you to
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come with rising due to the seriousness of the problem but women the tobacco supporters said to america you know they're starting with us today but it'll come to you next and that was poop because it was just going to focus on this serious problems actually pretty much you've just admitted the plan is a need to have we have been in a fight anything on popular we're going to come i don't know if you are installing a license salmoni only because you do have socialized health care but if you take the socialization out of health care then the people themselves will have to bear the closest legal cost and. turn this into a debate about national health care and whether we should have won the economy state but while government doesn't know how to live our lives it's what's one hundred ways way forget the health care costs and costs us lost productivity lost wages lost friendships lost relationships lost moms and dads and kids i mean there's all kinds of expenses beyond the health insurance costs but to that point yes you know we as a society know that i care. go for
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a minute you're saying what you're saying is the old you're on probably your barons to be sure that we pick up the cause of there killing people eggs and i want to convey to you that because no sugar baron puts a gun to anyone's head and forces them to take a soft drink. actually that's not true in fact many are adamantly you know actually as people of the un perhaps a little league it looked without your permission i really give you that really yes really how did in many instances it's the whole goal of the drug dealer to find a way to hook you so that afterwards then they can sell to you so there's you an exact same thing that the sugar to guys are doing so the surer guys are the same as they are little dogs killer magno everything i did when i was a dog what i want. people what is your stuff what is it stuff it's not sugar with stop no it doesn't stop with gringo hollywood i'm going to leave there are no other people and once you maim whatever the thing where are you really quite quite aggressively you know you've got seat belts you've got air bags i know you guys didn't like any of this stuff but hey it's so you guys and embarrass you still
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don't ok c.b.s. speaking of health care now we're going back a good happy here new policy at c.v.s. requires workers who get health insurance. to report to the company their body weight body fat glucose levels or pay a six hundred dollars fine if the workers don't provide the information medical coverage goes up fifty bucks a month is this a invasion of privacy or be simply the free market at work well at first at first blush it does look to be invasive but osha does require blood tests for the operating of certain machines my company we have a drug free policy and that people have to have blood tests for potential drug abuse companies are doing that blood blood test you stick needles in your employees are you know i mean this is a lot of companies now have drug free workplace rules right so i mean that's that's being implemented throughout the country and you'd be surprised how many companies are doing that i would write so there's not just drugs and i would not want to work in a. place that said. we don't know you're on i want to go to you go to
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a clinic to do it obviously but this is the unintended consequence of obamacare is sound companies like like big corporate states no it won't work we're an entrepreneurial business but tom this is the unintended consequence of obamacare you know i just did my. you know we're we're redoing our health care now and becoming compliant twenty thirteen twenty fourteen i just did that this week the sort of increases that we're going to have this year and next year i mean these companies have to survive somehow though is that how easily is only taking a billion dollars out a lot healthier he's got to make more money he's got one hundred executives who make over a million dollars they get is are obligated to pay this level health care employees need to be a partner in that process you know because it's a financial benefit should they not have to step up and also try to modify i'm not their ally and i'm going to help you do i'm not going to sit here and say that i think that obamacare is the solution to anything in particular particularly the fact that it uses for profit health insurance we're still paying twice what anybody else just seems to be beginning right now and what this is going to lead to let me
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tell you what c.v.s. is doing you're going to see so much more outrageous things when people try to control their health care and get into the private life of their employees because if they're not living healthy lives they're not going to be able to afford to keep horses not it's not a big government nanny state it's a big corporation nanny state everybody's going to end up like nails poor employees i do wonder about the details of this because it's always like they're very well there may be some bend over. there maybe some eighty a issues that make some of that illegal but on the other hand if you're getting this benefit from your employer he has a general right to be able to stick it out in the as i said the existing a.t.m. rules make me wonder whether or not that's allowed because if it exposes certain prigs listing handicaps that you have that are your private right to have these handicaps you can't discriminate on the ground. and that's a murky question drugs but workplaces only to check for drug abuse what so he is saying he has a strong and i don't have a problem here is that here's the question what c.v.s. is is doing. it is an invasion of privacy or is it the free market work it is it
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appears to be so but if they are expecting a benefit the company has a right to know i guess if their employees are doing today or invades my privacy all the time that's not the point the point of the question for you not to legally and if they can do this legally it is legal so so bottom line you do you wouldn't want the government to invade your privacy because that's part that's part prohibited by the first amendment but you're just fine if your corporation invades your privacy but this is all going back you have already taken the reasonable cause of three out of your government but you're free to choose when you don't all have lawyers get all together and they're just one giant employer and you've no more well that's federal got to call themselves later that's like the banality argue that it's increasingly the world we live in i mean it's it's once you get your infrastructure plan in place that's going to be the only place tomorrow plan a sixty thousand feet and land in any city in america look around and tell me where you are fifty thirty years ago before reagan you could have told me where you work
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as you would see all these small local businesses now you have no idea because it's a c.v.s. everywhere you go so it's any we have we're at c.b.s. wal-mart i think they're really the first time and i'm going to say for the first time in years i get the last word but you guys. are right so you are as if you are having his thank you both do we appreciate it. it's the good the bad of the very very nap on a cli ugly the good aaron jackson jackson an activist and director of. org is literally bringing the fight against bigotry to the front door of one of america's most homophobic organizations the westboro baptist church after looking up the church's topeka kansas headquarters he realized that the house across the street was for sale it was an opportunity too good to be true. jackson and his
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organization purchased the house now called the equality house and decorated it with the colors of the gate wide play of the westboro baptist church has released a profanity filled statement about their new neighbors jackson says the rest of the topeka community has responded positively to the equality is good work here is more proof that nothing fights bad speech better than good speech the bad james i was the head of the texas based great fort bend county tea party. government or democracy for that matter where in a recent report in texas tribune i have one high ranking member of the american fascist party to at least two thousand and three although i've says his time with the mussolini loving a.f.p. was just a joke his posts on the message board seem pretty serious texas tribune is uncovered this telling quote it will be our greatest challenge and our sweetest victory to finally surpass this dark menace this numbing threat from the shadows and replace
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it with a pure sunday as our fashions our actual true. tribune scoop is a reminder that with the right wing hate groups at an all time high in america the political fringe is probably a bit closer to the mainstream origins that was left. and the very very ugly joseph de mint dot donald the sheriff of plymouth county massachusetts dug himself into a deeper hole tuesday when he tried to defend a joke he made about assassinating president obama during a st patrick's day party on sunday in mcdonald's joke obama asked the ghost of lincoln how he can best serve his country to which lincoln responds go to the theatre of old joe bad lincoln of course killed of ford's theater here in d.c. during the inevitable firestorm following his comments mcdonnell accuse his critics of acting like nazis in one nine hundred thirty eight germany because you know call him out a law enforcement official first justify these as to the president that. it's got
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to be fascism in fact the mcdonnell a public servant is unable to see any sort of problem with his obama lincoln joke and laughs office parties that are here. after the break ten years after the start of the iraq war and the shills for the bush administration the corporate media have yet to apologize for being so wrong and for misleading an entire nation prison time we all got the apology we deserved more on that in tonight's deleted.
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let me let me i want to know what about let me ask you a question. here my misspent work is what we have in the bank we have our knives out. to do this right with us by staying there to get here and at the rate we're being i don't want you to talk about surveillance me. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for life you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you
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thought you knew you don't know i'm sorry welcome to the big picture. talking about the same story doesn't make it news no softball interviews no puff pieces tough questions. a little worse if you're going to. lie down for the. radio guy for a minute. because you've never seen anything like this i'm told.
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it's crude news not even three weeks after the devastating sequester budget cuts went into a fact and small businesses across america are already hurting our new professor stephen fuller george mason university the sequester budget cuts that went into effect will result in nearly one point four million lost private sector jobs and according to for nearly half of those job losses will come from small businesses so what are small businesses across the country doing to whether these devastating budget cuts as well as to survive in an already weak economy joining me now is elliot richardson president of the small business advisory council of chicago illinois eliot welcome thank you for having me great to have you with us so the sequester what are the what are the consequence was this an accurate characterization this is going to get whacked yet we're going to get hurt i mean i
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mean there's there's money that's going to come out of small businesses because of the sequester so nine hundred million dollars in lending that the s.p.c. may have been able to do the s.b.a. will not be able to do now that the ministration small business ration exactly government contracts are going to be there for small businesses and consumers i mean consumers are going to be spending so there's going to be a very real impact that the sequester is going to have but more than that is the uncertainty that the sequester and the fiscal cliff and. small business owners you hear about uncertainty all the time but you hear it from political pundits i'm on the ground i have thousands of business owners that i talk to all the time and i can tell you we feel that they're not going to hire they're not going to grow they're going to do everything they can do to survive when they're facing what they believe is falling off a cliff because when you fall off a cliff you die unless the real little cliff so that's that's part of the impact of what all of this is going to do. so the the. the group
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the you have the s.b.a. yes small business advisory council in chicago. you are. working with the the possibility of rolling out the ability of small local companies to do crowd funding and yes flowing with this is yeah well with with all of the uncertainty that's out there and with the great difficulty that small businesses have getting access to capital and we have twenty banks in the s.b.a. see and the bankers on the ground they do want to land but sometimes it's very difficult for them crowdfunding was in the jobs act there were a lot of things in the jobs act but one of the things in the jobs act would allow small business owners to raise up to a million dollars from their community from their friends from their business associates it would empower us in small increments to raise money it would create competition for the banks and for large venture firms and really allow us to take matters into our own hands we cannot do that right now we are allowed to through
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the jobs act but until the e.c. writes the rules which we were supposed to do in january nobody can launch you can you can do that on a private basis and you can go to friends family whatever and say here's my business for you would you kick some money but you can cancel it sits right on sorry so you can't turn it so there can't be a middleman isn't it isn't there some can some legitimate concern that if small businesses start basically doing i.p.o.'s that there may be something a little less than the best due diligence being done because there's just not the big money for the big lawyers to do the proper due diligence absolutely and that is why risk for investors yeah and that's why you got it you got to have the f.c.c. write the rules the rules are crucially important and in the jobs that are already some rules like you can only in vast i believe it's two percent of your income in private investments through crowd funding so you know there do need to be those
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those served in safeguards that are put into place but it would also open up a whole new force of revenue for entrepreneurs sure and for small businesses they need capital and you guys are also with the small business. as we counsel in chicago you're also putting together health insurance co-ops well we pushed for a law that would allow that so your last guest i had very interesting exchange you had about monopolies and health insurance. before obamacare small businesses were getting killed by health insurance companies after obamacare small businesses are still getting killed by health insurance companies we need an alternative insurance companies are still for profit business as they are and there's like a form for it there's four major health insurance companies and what you have is an essential monopoly health insurance cooperate is will allow small businesses to pool together and not farm out to insurance companies but to try to create a vehicle to compete with those which are and companies we push in one way to get the ability to do that we can and now a group and c.h.p.
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has been funded to the tune of one hundred sixty million dollars to build a co-op and you know to our republican friends the s.p.c. is half republican half democrat right up the middle to republicans we say shouldn't we have the opportunity to compete in the free market which has four major insurance companies is may work well it's major work elliot richardson thank you so much and you so much will be back. yesterday the u.s. mark the tenth anniversary of the start of the iraq war and over the course of the past ten years we've learned more and more about how the war with iraq actually started it's incredibly easy to blame the bush administration for the lies that led us into iraq but cheney rumsfeld and company weren't the only ones who played an integral role in convincing our nation that saddam hussein was
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a threat and the w m d's were a foregone conclusion in the days and weeks leading up to the invasion of iraq corporate media even n.p.r. and p.b.s. were abuzz with the talking points of the bush administration echoing claims that iraq has. it's hands on yellowcake uranium uranium and then it had a massive arsenal of weapons of mass destruction thanks to the media's repeated claims that iraq and saddam hussein remediate threats to our nation in the weeks leading up to the invasion nearly three quarters of americans believe the lie promoted by donald rumsfeld the saddam hussein was somehow involved in the attacks of nine eleven one of the biggest proponents of the iraq war was fox's bill o'reilly nearly every day leading off up to the invasion of iraq or rally used his pedestal on fox so-called news to pitch the pro-war lies of the bush administration in march of two thousand and three prior to the invasion of iraq o'reilly interviewed actress and political activist jeanine garofalo about her opposition
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towards going to war with iraq and asked her what she would do if she was wrong with her about iraq particularly. if you are wrong all right and if the united states and they will this is going to happen goes in liberate iraq people in the street american flags hugging our soldiers all right we find all kinds of bad bad stuff right in iraq you're going to apologize to george w. bush i would. say i'm sorry i hope. that i can be made a buffoon of that people will say you were wrong you were a fatalist and i would go to the white house on my glass and say that you are right . because lho went on to say she didn't think it would come to that and guess what she was right now riley as usual was wrong our soldiers were not met by throngs of iraqis who loved america and we certainly didn't find all kinds of bad stuff stuff bad. so the real question here is ten years after being so wrong why hasn't bill
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o'reilly apologized to groff alone and the american public for misleading us so badly in two thousand and four o'reilly was on a.b.c.'s good morning america and offered a half hearted apology for being so wrong he said that well my analysis was wrong and i'm sorry i was wrong i'm not pleased about it at all we should know reilly get out of his hands and knees and offer a real apology to all of us for being a mouthpiece for the bush administration's deeply misguided mission to invade iraq and why stop there rally shouldn't be the only one apologizing to the american team after all the rally wasn't the only one of the media to make the case for war with iraq in the bush administration's lies and the shill for the bush administration with sean hannity february nineteenth two thousand and three episode of hannity and colmes and he told fox news contributor ellis henican that we're going to go and we're going to liberate this country in a few weeks it's going to be over very quickly now it's going to be over very quickly and what i'm going to tell you here is you're going to find i predict mass graves we're going to open up those hang on let me finish these gulags these
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prisons and you're going to hear stories of rape and torture and misery and then we're going to find all the weapons of mass destruction that all of you guys on the left say don't exist. clearly hannity was wrong about the war should be apologized the american people and there's steve hayes fox news contributor and writer for the conservative publication the weekly standard repeatedly used his columns in the weekly standard in his time on fox or called news to push the now debunked lie that al qaeda and saddam hussein were in extra complete linked back has even wrote a book about the so-called link called the connection it is collaboration with saddam hussein has endangered america but as we all know he was wrong to do so worse his apology then there's his colleague at box he was charles krauthammer at the time of the war krauthammer was a fox news contributor and columnist for the washington post and much like hayes use the power of the pen to argue that the iraq war would assure an unprecedented levels of democracy in the middle east in april of two thousand and two he wrote
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the washington post that time is running short saddam has weapons of mass destruction he's working on nuclear weapons and he has every incentive to pass them on to terrorists who will use them against us we cannot hold the self-defense of the united states hostage to the solving of a century old regional conflict krauthammer was one hundred percent wrong about the iraq. finally there's emmas in b.c. is joe scarborough he was one of the strongest proponents of war with iraq outside of fox news in march of two thousand and three p. to make claims that toppling saddam hussein would mean the end of his weapons of mass destruction in april of two thousand and three scarborough so that for six months george bush dick cheney and donald rumsfeld have been telling the world the people of iraq need to be liberated from saddam hussein's bloody reign has three weeks of showing us just how right these three men have been in that same commentary scott discover all pondered whether journalists at the new york times
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and n.p.r. a.b.c. here at c.n.n. are going to ever admit just how long their negative pronouncements were over the past four weeks. well joe turns out the occasional anti-war activists who made it onto the mainstream media and they were few and far between or right and you were wrong so where is the apology ten years after going to war based on international lies and intentional. and after thousands of american lives have been lost the majority of the media has yet to offer any semblance of an apology for being so wrong and for not playing the real role of journalism and questioning the bush administration hard the media failed us leading up to the iraq war and it's cost hundreds of thousands of human beings their lives in the united states has lost both trillions of dollars and our standing in the world as a moral force it's time for our media to offer us and the people of iraq an
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apology and make sure the sort of thing never happens again like they're getting ready to do with iran. and that's the way it is tonight wednesday march twentieth twenty thirteen for more information on any of the stories we covered visit our website to tom hartman dot com. and if you missed any of that i'd show you know watch on hulu hulu dot com slash which also check out our two you tube channel so and so over the top of an hour also there you can check out all the different ways you can see others. and don't forget democracy is not a spectator sport it requires active participation get out there get active show up occupy something tag you're it.
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