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ten years after the war in iraq began a veteran sends a letter to george bush and dick cheney bashing them for what he calls a needless war this vet is in a hospice and dying coming up we'll speak with thomas young about his letter that has gone viral. and big brother is keeping an eye on you while drones are most often used for the by the u.s. for warfare overseas more and more police departments here at home are using them to spy on u.s. citizens this week lawmakers heard concerns about this growing practice we'll tell you about that hearing in just a bit. and over five million people have been stopped and frisked by the n.y.p.d. officers and the vast majority of those people were minorities but thanks to several whistleblowers we are now learning more about this controversial program and the ways police officers are implementing it all look at stop and frisk just
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ahead. it's friday march twenty second four pm in washington d.c. i'm megan lopez and you're watching. well we spent a lot of time this week taking a critical look at the iraq war the misconceptions that led us into the conflict the ensuing years of strife the lives that were affected the thousands who were killed and now ten years later the truth about the weapons of mass destruction that were not in the country today we are going to introduce you to get another face of this war thirty three year old thomas young an iraq war veteran who was injured in the early days of the conflict and who is now preparing to die thomas was shot in the spine and has been paralyzed from the chest down ever since he now suffers from another of other element ailments and is choosing to stop taking all norseman and
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life extending medication he says he's sick of being sick but before this veteran's life and he wanted to speak out about the iraq war and the deceptions the american people were told he wrote a letter to president bush and dick cheney expressing his feelings and thomas young joined me earlier today to talk about that letter as well as his decision to stop accepting care here's part of an interview. or. i got. the why. so. close. there and. but. may you go way.
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gaijin because it would blow down the government will not allow me to pool. why they wouldn't give me. the boehm negation no matter how much there was they and the pain that if i were in truly all will pain that i i wouldn't scream my ass. that the only people who really are. advertised the most sure know how for you traded when you are right back from iraq with those injuries where you received as a hero. i was. i wonder if the at the euro or not of the euro and. i was
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just treated like a regular guy because. it was strong on the war when i can well sure. it's when my god when i joined a group of the view in began active. what i mean during the war is mine. i get a bigger. share now you have chosen to to go on hospice care you are choosing to to enjoy life before you decided to do that you wrote a letter to to george bush and to dick cheney and i'd like to are a part of that letter and kind of get your explanation as to why you wrote this part you said quote i would not be writing this letter if i had been wounded fighting in afghanistan against those forces that carried out the attacks of nine
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eleven had i been wounded there i would be still miserable because of my physical deterioration and imminent death but i would at least have some comfort of knowing that my injuries were a consequence of my own decision to defend a country that i love so you sure you're talking about the difference between going to iraq and going to afghanistan what do you hope that president bush and dick cheney get out of this letter what would you like to see. i would like them to. the. do marry. or dropping the ball. on afghanistan in. a rash and i want them to admit it was both a huge blunder in
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a terrible lying on the american. do you think that these men should be prosecuted i know that the statute of limitations on president bush's if it if you could call that war crimes. the statute of limitations to prosecute president bush under the office of war crimes isn't expiring do you think that there should be prosecuted out of those charges as ruling. that drive they don't leave their their free. down and. they will be over. and finally. i want to ask you about. your last days what message are you trying to send what are your last words that you want the american people and the people around the world to know wow.
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your son or daughter understand that they don't. when or where they go to war is rich predominantly white men in the house and then. the power then. all of their parents but in their own children off to die or be injured in. war and i was like curran phaedra follow the decisions to make sure that every avenue a long list seeing and what have you are exhausted
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for sending young men and women off to. an enduring tragic story with an important message that was iraq war veteran thomas young. a senate judiciary committee met on capitol hill yesterday to listen to arguments about the use of domestic drones law enforcement officials and privacy advocates spoke about the increased demand of you a visa and the laws used to govern them current privacy protections from aerial surveillance are based right now on a court decisions from the one nine hundred eighty s. protections that privacy advocates say are antiquated now one of those people is a step out of it she is the director of domestic drone of domestic surveillance project at epic and she joins me now for more now amy you were actually at that hearing how receptive were lawmakers to your suggestions and others they actually seem very receptive and we think it's a very positive development that the senate is considering this topic we think it's
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very important there are already two bill circulating in the house so the senate is the next step for legislation to be introduced so we do we are very. kind of happy about the direction that this is moving and i do want to play a part of that hearing this is benjamin miller he is the colorado sheriff from mesa county who's actually testifying on behalf of drone use and police departments so let's let's listen to that one of the things that we've positioned our program for the concept is that we've not really invented. a new ability to collect information and you know the camera has done that for us it's done that for us for decades and you know in the past. and so there's case law out there that speaks to the direction of which we take when we consider putting a camera in there so what direction are we taking i think it's it's not necessarily
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. it is the next step forward in surveillance but it's a huge leap forward because this is and it's a point that was made in the hearing drones are so cheap to buy and to operate and they really lower the cost of surveillance which means in correlation they increase how much surveillance takes place so while it's just another tool it's an incredibly invasive tool drones are designed to conduct surveillance that's really why they came into existence as a surveillance mechanism and they're just an exponential leap forward from anything that we've had in the past and some of the things that we're trying to determine is whether these things should be able to take pictures of people through windows whether they should be able to have facial recognition technology what kinds of legislation is there when i was trying to advocate for what would be the solution here oh more we're looking at about three different uses so we for law enforcement and government use of drones we would like some data minimisation and data
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retention limits on information collected and a warrant requirement for law enforcement to use drones to collect evidence so that drones just don't just become kind of robotic cop police officers walking around or flying around the streets when it comes to commercial entities we'd like to see a lot more transparency and accountability for what information they collect right now it's very difficult to find out what and it does have a license to operate a drone so we'd like to see more transparency in that angle and we'd really like to see some of the states and maybe at the federal level re-evaluate their peeping tom laws and kind of the loss that prevent individuals from spying on one another because of the availability that this technology is going to have to increase it. is a very easy technology to get your hands on and as you mention it's a very cost effective way now there's a lot of criticism about using drones and abroad and as well as back home former vice chairman of the joint chiefs of staff general james cartwright is one of those
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people who is actually. on the record expressing his concerns about this program he said quote if you're trying to kill your way to a solution no matter how precise you are you're going to upset people even if they're not targeted so of course he's talking about targets of broad but do you think it could have similar impacts at home could we create essentially enemies because of what these programs offer it's possible and one of the things that we're looking at and it was a point that was made over and over again at the hearing is you have to involve the public now and address the address these issues you can't roll out the technology and expect that they're going to kind of come to a resolution on their own we have a chance here and it's something we don't get very often with technology to really dive into the issues and make sure that we have robust protections put into place and make sure that people know what's going on in our kept aware of what's going on and i think that's really necessary right now and finally i mean we what we heard in the hearings was kind of two things really we heard that one that this is
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a huge step forward in terms of technology and you've even said yourself that this could be a good thing but on the other hand we're hearing there needs to be some type of regulation some type of legislation done so of almost everyone can agree on these two things why is nothing being done. we are starting to see some things being done especially at the state level we have thirty states that have introduced legislation and we would like to see a lot more and i think it's all about approach people are trying to figure out the correct angle to come at this from however like i said we're very very optimistic about the fact that we're going to see something move forward and i think that everybody should keep their eyes open should keep in contact with their senators at the federal level and at the state local level all of their lawmakers and make sure that their voices are being heard it's just a matter of time before we start seeing real changes i missed the part of its director of domestic surveillance project at epic thank you so much for joining us . it's a controversial practice that has ordinary citizens squaring off with the n.y.p.d.
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on a daily basis opposition to the stop and frisk program has swelled in recent days and weeks several police officers themselves have blown the whistle on the program saying that the department is forcing them to meet quotas to provoke and to provoke innocent civilians now up until this point there have been a lot of allegations and little evidence of wrongdoing until now two recordings have made their way into the spotlight each telling a different narrative about the program the first is an audio from the officer where his superior told him who to target he says quote i have no problem telling you this male blacks and i told you this at roll call and i have no problem to tell you this male blacks fourteen to twenty one in age now the second is a recording of a young man's encounter with police officers it's the first recording of its type we're going to. show. we're going to wrestle with the.
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two tapes that leave two very big holes in the credibility of this program the stepfather of the young man featured in the second tape joins me now to talk about the n.y.p.d. stop and frisk program. organizer against stop and frisk. so let's first of all talk about your stepsons encounter with the police what were your initial thoughts when he showed you this recording of the officers harassing him to be. it was and through me his mother was so traumatized by what had been. just so because too often it was confusing because we have. most of so no. who was an explorer of the twenty fifth precinct and then to you know a young man they want to be a cop and so but to get treated like this it was traumatizing and left the whole family and everybody there heard how he was talked to how he was treated was you know was confusing traumatized over the whole situation and we just we just didn't
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believe it really happened and i can imagine that alvin was pretty shaken up as while running after that happened and we used to drive around and he used to be so nervous in back of the car if police was behind as he was like so nervous because he thought police was i don't not think he thought it was either the looking for him or trying to find them he felt a real threat because he was always nervous in a car when polies was either you know saying to my left to my right when i was driving or behind and you know a started you know started affecting us as well because we didn't like to see him like that so you know we spend a lot of time talking to him and letting him know that you know that you know he needs not to be afraid and has he ever been stopped and first before i have any of his friends. world dilemma really started he came he told me that he police keeps all rassi him so you know our kind of you know your
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says you're always walking around with guy for want to download the recording in which he did and he downloaded the app and told him you know whatever you do you have the right to continue to ask questions to now stop asking the question because i'm in the used single question you know our fear that i will be the means the minute it will be the take more advantage in my locker more but on your stand your ground and keep asking questions like why are you being stopped you have the right to do that. i didn't know he was going to know he did a great did what no one expected him to do he's still a question we're just getting food that it didn't turn out to be something else something no worries and we know that both mayor bloomberg as well as our police commissioner ray kelly have a ton of this program is a good thing the whole point of this program is to reduce crime rates but there is a certain amount of blowback critics say that these young men that are being stopped are not going to be comfortable going to police when they really do need help what are what are your thoughts on this. you know after they have them my
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stepson and after i started noticing it happening to my nephew and other kids in the neighborhood i started to really see that it was becoming a big problem i really didn't pay too much mind to it because as myself it happened to me so many times growing up that i thought it was normal was part of my culture but you know it was a start affecting me when i was see it happen to other people i realize that it was a big problem so i decided to find some type of group that i could get involved with. and you know when i found a group there was fighting against stop and frisk decided to get involved and you know fight against it from you know from you know from over twenty four hours all the way to now nonstop summer and i think that. you know. it has made the community very unsafe because no one especially the youth they do not trust the police they are more afraid of the police and they're afraid of anything that might
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be happening in a neighborhood that is negative so police have been in the neighborhood put a lot of fear in these kids i mean even ray kelly made a statement he said that he was disc is that when they leave their home he was them to be a free they're going to be stop question and frisk he was saying that there are more afraid of the place officers than they are of any harm that could befall them on their journey to wherever they're going now meanwhile some of the police officers have actually turned into whistle blowers as i mentioned earlier saying that they are forced to essentially have these kind of quotas although quotas are the term quotas for place officers are banned in new york city so do you think that it is a cultural problem within the n.y.p.d. or an individual officer problem. well i think the whole department i mean even if you an officer that has been forced to do it you know you have the right not to do something that has no moral something to it bothers you can you know that bothers your conses and that's what some of these officers doing is psychologically
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bothering them you know to be a force to do this and they know was wrong so they're swaddled no you know i'm happy that there is some of them coming now and speaking against and there's others they're afraid because they aren't a lot of pressure you know i mean they have families to feed they've got children to take care so there aren't a lot of pressures so you know how understand but still there's no justification to go into into any community and harass people who or target people who just because you're trying to make you know make orders or make a certain amount of ticket i mean just to the hood on trial they have something there you know the off the you know no two and twenty you know go out there and get to rest today and get twenty some a city i mean they really you know it's really a lot of pressure on both and certainly this videotape that your stepson made is shedding light on like we've ever seen before on this program why have to see how his case plays out in a court or say let's file a organizer against stop and frisk and stepfather of alvin the boy that you saw in
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that video thank you for joining us thank you thank you for inviting me. well if you haven't heard of three d. printers by now you've probably been living under a rock gone are the days of single dimension representation today's devices print almost any object you can dream of from a wrench to a gun and even a human organ as this technology makes its way into the mainstream it has the potential to revolutionize the way we conduct our lives why go to the hardware store when you can simply print out your own hammer at home never leaving the convent in the comfort of your couch but if you look at the fine print there are a number of legal concerns with this innovative technology it could compromise intellectual property rights by allowing users to download and print the parts of the knob ject for a fraction of the price that they would pay otherwise the website death cad says it will provide people with all the digital models that they need for all printing purposes take a look. decade stance against artificial scarcity intellectual property copyright
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patentable objects and regulation in all its from three d. printing is going to be developed as a technology we need specific tools to help get around industry government and the collusive members of the make community for more on the legal concerns of three d. printing i'm joined by bob inglis she is a producer right here at r c america bob thanks for joining me so tell me a little bit more about what you think about what will happen with intellectual property rights with this this three d. printing how lot of fact that it's an interesting question and we have a couple of recent historical parallels what happens is in the recording industry we saw with the rise of napster in line wire and even torrents the recording industry association association of america decided it was a good idea to sue the customers and that had a little bit of blowback but that was in the copyright realm what we're talking about here is printing physical objects and that has to do with patents so things like the digital millennium copyright act will probably have to be reintroduced or
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will be reintroduced in a different form so i think that's on the horizon and what we're going to see is a proliferation of more of these download networks like death cab and even on the torrent network and we're going to have in the future the napster of stuff if you will serve a potentially open the door for a lot of technology to come out but at the same time it could potentially hurt a lot of businesses so why is there a limit to what you can print right now the technology is still in its relative infancy stage although it's already existed for twenty years it's getting better only one or two materials can be printed out at a time so there's really not a theoretical live limit to where it can go but right now we're probably still in the beginning stages and it's very expensive so what if somebody wanted to say a prince a human i mean we could print errors i can print body parts is there are going to be a day when we can print a human being. there is there's a big difference between the cartilage in an era for instance and an entire scene in oregon. and then the entire human that includes the central nervous system the
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drain the brain being very complicated and whatnot you have to somehow model it and while it's probably not theoretically impossible i think we'll probably get to a point where we have the integration of circuitry and chips within the human brain the melting of mind and machine before that actually happens call it a google brain you know the human killer sure sure all interesting and all you know off in the future but these these thirty printers there is they certainly don't come cheap talk about the cost are they only going to be for the wealthy really if they are what rich enough they can afford to have a new kidney printed well right no they are expensive but what happens in economics and the tech boom is a relatively free market the early adopters pay high prices and they financed the research and development cost for the rest of us down the road and we saw you know how much did blu rays cost when they first came out and now everybody can afford one pretty much so i think that we're going to see the cost come down to a great degree and i would even be surprised to see these three d.
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printing machines are printing themselves someday sure what can we expect for the future our i know a lot of these three d. printers are focused on guns in technology like that what else are they working on everything going to be everything from like you said tools household objects it's interesting to think because it would something like a child's toy like a nerf ball would be difficult because of the nature of the materials involved or a teddy bear but things like guns and the parts not all of them but certain parts can be easily replicated already and so it would be surprising to see one day to go into your garage and have an entire array of things hanging from the wall that were three d. printed even a gun rack it's very interesting on also we're going to have to wait and see how the technology develops as well as the legal surroundings of this of this new technology bob english producer at our teeth thank you so much for joining me thank you and that's going to do it for now for more on the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash r.t.
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