opens the door for growth and enormous economic ramifications the nations that make up the brics group may be divergent but experts now see they are much more than an acronym coined by our guy goldman sachs they all agree on the fundamentals we want a multiple of world we want to have more say your members seem to have your political and when the world's biggest country finally joins head on with potentially the world's largest economy it could send shock waves straight to the heart of today's global order and this visit might be the start and he's now a r.t. moscow. and some more international news stories in brief this hour in paris riot police fired tear gas on protesters trying to disperse the crowd marching against the country's same sex marriage bell of a started to use force to gay demonstrators push their way on to the shams elisei according to police there were three hundred thousand protesters but acts of its claim a much larger number two people were arrested but no injuries have been reported

a large majority of the lower house of france's parliament approved the much disputed bill last month and now the draft law is awaiting the senate vote next month. in levy about two hundred former rebel. elisa downes office demanding his resignation they claim that according to the country's political isolation law no members of the former regime can participate in political life elisa dunn was a diplomat during. his rule before the nation's eight month long civil war and twenty eleven. and the head of the central african republic france are busy as has been forced to flee to the democratic republic of congo after rebel forces seized control of the capital bangui of france and meanwhile claims that soldiers have secured the city's airport and called for an emergency meeting for the u.n. security council to discuss further action the rebel alliance began its offensive in december and has taken control of about a dozen of towns. egyptian president mohamed

morsi has warned that he will take unspecified measures to protect the nation this comes after violent clashes on friday between opposition and muslim brotherhood supporters near the group's headquarters in cairo according to the ministry of health about two hundred people were injured during this scam shows that west began a week ago when muslim brotherhood members attack journalists and secular acts of his during a protest. the town sent of us troops since american soldiers invaded iraq was march this week with more bombings across the country which killed over sixty people and al-qaeda linked groups that it was behind the tox which happened in mostly shiite areas of the capital baghdad and other cities. and it looks now back at what the u.s. endeavor chiefs there. at this hour american and coalition forces are in the early stages of military operations to disarm iraq to free its people and to defend the

world from grave danger. this was the freedom they brought shock and awe bombs over baghdad what the pentagon billed as a quick war to liberate iraq turned into a prolonged nightmare. ten years of bloodshed war occupation and deadly sectarian strife drained by afghanistan exhausted by iraq for washington the battle is over after a decade of war that's cost us thousands of gods and over a trillion dollars. nation we need to build is our own but what if the nation they left behind. no we're not happy biggest regret the iraqi people are destroyed and the infrastructure is devastated the country is ruined. these graves are a visual reminder of a decade of human strife almost everyone in this country has lost somebody whom

they love no one knows exactly how many iraqis have been killed since the invasion and the estimates range from more than one hundred fifty thousand to over one million for years the u.s. claims not to keep body count but how do you mohamed has kept count his four sons and only grandchild were killed in a suicide blast. how am i doing i raise my sons and some of them get mahdi's and send them to universities i watch them die you asked me if it's better or worse now compared to ten years ago i still have my sons ten years ago so i think the answer is obvious. others have seen their dreams of a brighter future shattered by years of violence. i was top of my class but when circumstances became very bad after the occupation i feel that something was broken inside of me. my ambition and everything i used to dream of becoming a doctor or an engineer but conditions prevented me from continuing my studies but

an education is no guarantee of work less than forty percent of iraqi adults have a job and a quarter of families live below the world bank's poverty line statistics that haven't improved much since the days of crushing u.n. sanctions in the one nine hundred ninety s. elections may have brought democracy to iraq but critics say the government is rife with corruption and infighting. despite the ferias that's occurred in the time of the former regime it is not comparable to the number of freely is by the politicians and the current government. more troubling perhaps are the lingering divisions of this occupation separated out into tribes place the political structure of the tribal one which aggravated the political conflict i see no good in this kind of regime. today iraq is facing a new political crisis there is tension on the ground between the sunni provinces and the shia led government as well as between baghdad and the kurdish north i

think if these issues are not resolved it can lead to more significant problems including conflict which can lead to i think the breakup of iraq and destabilization region and an upsurge in violence is sparking fears of a return to sectarian strife new figures show the death rates have actually risen since the last american soldier left iraqi soil how long will iraq remain like this every day there are explosions every day there is killing every day there is terrorism explosion after explosion iraqis have asked themselves that same question for most of the last ten years who seek out of r t iraq. mr phyllis bennis from vane's should for policy studies in washington says the current iraqi government put in place by the americans is completely incapable of getting things in order. i think we know exactly what the situation would have been if there had not been this illegal and illegitimate prevented two war waged against

iraq. we do know that the saddam hussein regime had been supported by the united states and somewhat by britain the us had been backing the regime of saddam hussein militarily with the seed stock for biological weapons with other kinds of military support as well as financial and political support throughout the years of iraq's war with iran so that somehow this was a longstanding challenge that had to be dealt with and war was the only way simply lies in the face of what real relationships were the legacy of that war what the u.s. leaves behind raises horrific realities for the people of iraq what we're seeing now the sectarian violence is a very direct result of the six hereon basis of the government that the u.s. opposed when it occupied iraq starting in two thousand and three the aid is being

distributed through a corrupt government being kept in power by the united states despite the fact that there was billions of dollars at military forces to the regime of the maliki in power that regime barely could speak to anyone in washington they're far more allied with iran these days but the u.s. is still sending money and money is being wasted by the really government. coming up after the break fast talks to former british deputy prime minister john prescott to stay with us.

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you know. it's been ten years since the war in iraq next year it seems pretty strange

withdrawing from afghanistan and it provides a time perhaps for affection not just to look on what's gone cost but also with the prospects of intervention in syria with iran looming almost lessons can be learned from pos decisions and we look forward to the future but to help us talk more about this i'm joined by the former deputy prime minister under taney no prescott thank you very much for joining us we're talking about reflections ten years on from the war in iraq. what do you reflect ten years on now did it turn out the way you expected it to sort of did. the important thing is what did we go into iraq war while saddam was an evil man there's no doubt about but we're not the believer in drudgery train can't just go into another country and besides i don't like the lead of tony blair about the strong view that it should not stand aside with lots of people being killed but i was. it was insistent when we discussed it it did have

two of the united nations endorsement and that's what tony did hope to get the master about nuclear weapons that he used to have them before sundown certainly wasn't that to be found out intelligence was wrong but what is me now when i reflect in ten years is not so much how i came to be agree with tony and then the process of what changed and it became regime change but when i took the vice president cheney when i was sent over the top of that i mean this was a man who didn't get down what was going to happen about us he just really wanted to go in iraq to them mine president bush the father had stopped to. kuwait and not gone in and dealt with saddam so all the about a could you say to me it's business as usual and what they meant was basically unfinished business so to that extent i was very alarmed and told. bring it forward now to the ten years of what begins to worry me all the move is it does seem and tony blair is saying that in the case of syria or indeed in iraq nothing is

implications involved that the feeling is you go we then to do the same thing now that's just wrong we're not learning the lessons of iraq it doesn't bring peace shaka no mind when militarily but the weeks that followed calls them off a lot of deaths among civilians when we're talking about you now with hindsight saying that will in iraq withdrawal at what point events that took place it will point it in saying it wasn't the right thing today well the real problem is you discussing whether you should do it i came back and told tony the americans ago in him with or without we don't make a difference they're going in. and eyes had to tell me that it's almost regime change but we were already into the the difficulty with the politicians remember nearly two hundred people of our own people died quite apart from thousands and many thousands of civilian. once you're in the war you get behind your troops you

do not then have the arguments but now it's ten years on i'm looking at how i went through that process of change i think it's right to say now not to clear my conscience because i must accept the responsibilities for the part i played in the decision he had he come to accept that which is not easy people have died how do you do it even if you talk about british troops which nearly two hundred of them right or indeed the many thousands of civilian who continue to die even today in what is happening in iraq so it's not easy you do the best to make your decisions stephen quick now that you didn't speak up loud and telling people like well being hey can i go on robin cook actual out the americans to bomb from u.k. bases in iraq before that was without the u.n. i understand rob exact moment but basically looking back. i thought the decisions were right to the stage there was another important factor and bush promised to bring in a roadmap for palestine and just the same policy america is the only one that's

likely to have any influence on the israelis right a bush went further than twenty or even recognize a two state system and tony blair's out there still trying to achieve some of that but the americans failed in producing so each stage you look at the east say yes i think it's worth doing we could settle palestine i do a lot of things to try and bring justice back into the for the problems that it's a terrible situation we thought that so each stage and then the un tony thought you could carry the euro era nations a russian obviously was making clear. china as well so to the extent we didn't get the un where china made that decision. the americans make clear we could come out i've said that go in without just any way. tony blair's not that kind of guy i this point when we heard from tony blair then prime minister he said that from the house of commons he stood on his fame has exist. thing and active military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons which could be activated within forty five

minutes of the famous speech that we heard you at the time i sat there in that video is that he prime minister at the time his right hand. on intelligence given to us told us about the nuclear weapons right they did after nuclear weapons when the israelis bombed the place that they were they were developing them so used to have secondary used gas which i think is the front of it the drama verse right now to kill thousands of kurds so he was a man for using. weapons of mass destruction he has a record of doing basic relieve the question to me though is if the u.n. felt that he wasn't observing by the way the worst seventeen resolutions committed by the u.n. involving russia supporting the well so to that extent there was a u.n. mandate tony felt you could act on that but he couldn't is the agreement of the security council would have

a separate motion on intervention he didn't get that the u.n. failed. the u.n. failed over a wanderer it failed over certainly i want to talk about rwanda because he mentioned in your i think we said maybe you feel that that was in part what happened in rwanda mates vase and maybe at the back a tiny place in mind when iraq was happening when that decision was being made that he didn't want to have another situation where the world stood by to watch it's a critical fight said that the san francisco speech is actually repeated it again since i only took two days ago and i said totally what you are saying in your speech you should still be able to intervene that is regime change whatever that is who decides the good to get the body to him it's if you kill your old people you don't have a right to be oppressive with your own people where is the line drawn but then he says we won't send in troops boots on the ground why chris is so popular leave out costly save in. america now they want to use these drones to bomb people out there

killing more civilians in pakistan than they are the alleged terrorists so you know it's like with him now carrying it so many thousands feet in the hat and kill our food we want to kill them i mean when obama was sitting there. and say oh it's some round in the table like a video game say kill him now she says where we go he said he told to teddy bear just a few days ago about this so what are your conversations like now ten years on what are the discussion of the term is a generous man really you my views when we would think of a but i'm a devotee of prime minister i'm not doing the storming out to know a lot what does he say about you a pretty saying now that it was the wrong decision how does he feel about it i've said that and you know this is my view so it's no shock to him but ten years on then say to him you committed the same mistakes in the speech you just made about syria i just don't agree with you tony and he doesn't oh no let me count

a problem with what is the same defense when he's talking about serious defenses quite clear the known leader in the world has a right to come to kill off its people in an oppressive way he feels tony blair because it puts covering very much so that they will light say the war in iraq t.v. film that you would like to see at the time assistant to the prime minister are you saying that when you read the intelligence information says do you accept it or not how are the can you say no we know we had nuclear weapons before we know that he actually used them against people gas of weapons of mass destruction we know he had a lot and the intelligence reports said yes he still got them. on the the first shot where they couldn't find any of it not that he didn't use them if he has them or not even if he had them the israelis bombed it didn't happen they would know we did know that when you're looking at the paper you get a report in front of what are going to say that mistake cost hundreds of thousands of iraqis. you just took the easy option you're asking me what i do i get an

intelligence report that says he's still got what he's used before so we don't use them it's not just make it go and the intelligence report with the information given in that way says that now. even then i don't think you can unilaterally into b. without a un resolution that was a strong wind always with tony always felt he could get it but it didn't get high and the dan could have pulled out if you want that was a judgment for him to make the once we don't need you do not get into a bloody war politically when your own people go out on for a very strong position as and say i'm willing to take it to zero make space at the time this happened it's one thing to think out here that that is for all but i think the problem is just to prevent the mistakes being made again now that's my ear talking about what happens behind the scenes think up and you know what can happen now what lessons can be learned been told to do and fact i've said to the people and that's why public about to say that i could easily say nothing. i'm not

looking to be you don't get logic to say that by the way or having the decision wrong you don't become popular overnight for that but i am worried what's happening about syria they're going talking about iraq it's it's almost the crusades again the western superior values now have to be planted in these countries i mean at the end of the day want to be doing now we're providing the bullet protection for the rebels while it's a belief that getting killed being driven out the country and you cannot change iraq teaches this which they would simply by getting rid of the leader doesn't bring a kind of peace and quiet no you got religions i teach all the different medias come in and that's in all these mediterranean countries plenty who william hague talking about owning rebel queens making sure that it gets into the right hands well i think they do exactly the. mistake well the certainly in regard to syria

there is un resolutions to try and assist and help the revelation rather than get rid of saddam by a factor of elites almost meaning the same so what you've got is a kind of civil war going on between the was it's the center of what my top of the in the middle east well in reality we're going to have to live let in the people decide what they're going to do any jihad jane syria in libya i mean the interesting thing is tony blair got gadhafi to drop his best men to nuclear would we invaded wouldn't nations have gone in in libya liffey they got the bomb. because when they know when the lesson is learned like in iran if you want real security have the bomb and then we say fear around us the bombed our door in syria the days well i'm afraid the western view tends to be the other goodies and baddies with the bomb nobody was supposed to have the bomb after the agreements with the cation india's got it pakistan's got it. seem to be have an israel we don't want to talk

about but we got a bomb. and so this is talk received to a certain extent almost as i said in discussions with tony on the company. why is it then you're prepared to tolerate india and pakistan have an a bomb. why is everybody has to plead with china to go to north korea and ask them to drop. your argot bomb brings power influence the no the and russia was on the way we told our affections ten years on from the war in iraq i think fifty we're told from afghanistan next year and we've got obviously the talk of going in in syria on the table he think this government is going to make the same mistake. that the previous governments mate i think there's a danger of doing that because it's motivated almost by the same things good people stick together i'm afraid when you get through the countries are not necessarily good their might well be bad but you just did just to mention afghanistan that was the un agreement. i saw all the intelligence forces show whether the bombers and

the terrorists were operating from and that was right. and they destroyed them but that was with u.n. intervention but we are only better off in afghanistan i just think year after ten years in afghanistan now will it not go back to it's always it's a look a like it will so the start of the lesson is to avoid being doing the crusades we did that a thousand years. this time the crusaders without boots on the ground with the public and said we don't want to but then you go to technology. and that still doesn't bring you peace and political stability thank you very much for that. and the mission in free cretaceous three times for charges free.

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