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you're going to be less likely to get the job than the next guy in line who's very consistently line three it did something happen to you when that made you want to do something like this the doctor who examines you knows that you're lying but any one a lot of them i'm only lying so i can get work with a neat ok number two how much do you make the doing something like this to something like three hundred fifty a day now how that plays into determine whether the drug is safe and effective that's not my work number two or number three it's time to find out which one of our players is the real human guinea pig will a real robert helms please stand up. if i'm lying i'm lying for pennies this is not a mansion you're looking at here this is a rented room where i am my cats live when they lie they're
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lying so they can make billions of dollars over the course of many years while they have the patent on the drug they have an agenda to prescribe these drugs to as many people as possible that's their agenda inside your body they want to make money and they have to use healthy guinea pigs in the regular society they're not able to use prisoners anymore they wish they could. this is holmesburg prison here this is who has served time that one thousand nine
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hundred sixty four to one thousand nine hundred sixty six i was in full sales of marijuana this is my first time man i'm scared you know twenty years old when i first got in there i seen all these inmates walking around with bandages all over the bodies i found out these gases on tests from the university of pennsylvania on the dr albert cleat me and it first they were mine to test as you know like a johnson and johnson bubble bath to this and at the time it was paying some like thirty some dollars they put people in it but it wasn't the bubble bay of the people was crooked and have police break the foam up but it had all these deadly chemicals in it went into my bloodstream i stop breaking out with these little red pus to the bumps all over the lot bloody my hands and feet that be one thing it was that this stuff here on my thing is there constantly it's burning a scratch into they bleed i have prostate cancer degenerative rheumatoid offer
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right and hepatitis c. bubble bath does this to somebody may. didn't look at us as human beings he looked at us as a commodity number or skin to experiment on you know still not guinea pigs now i got on the other team has taken pills i had to take seven tills three times a day. but they did a double meet he had read my test lock my bowels and they'd taken me in the back of home and butch they butchered me back to. this man with something to sort of never bit you dawn terminate this part of your life missing that's a penalty and now. i'm damaged i'm damaged goods from getting into things blind me not knowing what i was really doing to myself that name knew they knew it they knew exactly did it
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because her to believe that to say you can destroy your life taken stop you system is going to come back to haunt you marriage you know a nasty way letting you know. let's get out of. this get really i got to get up in the morning go to the clinic. buy their legs. with the book. down and i was like dentist thank you very very. much.
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and i think. it's just mental illness. to have. it was she had. and this was his college graduation in two thousand. and a birthday card that he made far me. i think he was probably about seven. in the sense everybody is smiling but no everybody who's not smiling anymore. dan became ill and had i got him into fairview riverside hospital in minneapolis in
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november of two of three and within a few days he was put into a clinical study that was run by his attending physician dr steven seals and he was his attending physician and also the principal investigator in the clinical study it's an obvious conflict of interest down at the chinese to be they're going into the study are going into a mental hospital he chose to study. that girl soon had control of her downs freedom he was taken out of his treatment medication and put on the study medication which turned out to be a circle and these clinical studies are marketing ploys far the pharmaceutical companies some drugs that were approved over a dozen years ago and should no longer have to be studied i had
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no one else to turn to you know we had tried for everyone to help us because jan was of legal age i had no way of getting him out of the study and other than pleading with the doctors to let him out which they would not it was obvious he was deteriorating by his mean or he was losing a lot of weight and he was. gaunt and he felt he was being planned by devils he was. psychotic i told dr wilson i know my son i said i see this in a rage please don't let it come boiling out with shit did. you know i can still remember father ohio saying that. your son passed away.
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and. i remember thinking oh how ridiculous no he didn't pass away he was killed he didn't pass away they let him die. and . they need to be held accountable. at that. there we go and. it was a former drug rep who helped shape his old watch marketplace which was the s.s.r.i. marketplace in the early ninety's it was
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a blockbuster market it was huge i mean every drug in that market did over a billion dollars prozac paxil zoloft select lexapro so i've been tracking that market for a couple of decades on and off years ago i met a psychiatrist who got consulted at the zoo to treat a particular young. chimp who was injuring himself and it got to a point where it was almost a matter of life and death so that's why they called in the psychiatrist he wanted him for a prescription they wanted a psychiatric medication beyond what they normally use so he wrote a script for paxil to reduce his anxiety to help with the o.c.d. behavior the young male chimp stopped hurting himself lost his anxiety was resold he's part of the troop he's in line to be an alpha hell at some point so you could say it's an incredible success story but it was how he envisioned paxil being used in his human patients medication plus psychodynamic intervention he was able to do
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for america international airport in the very heart of moscow. it's it's easy to say you know we're a world on drugs and specifically we're becoming a world on psychiatric medication i mean that's indisputable even if you look at primates in institutions human in apes they develop certain psychopath ologies that are fairy common i mean if you go across the street here there's a county run mental facility with human primates on a lot of medications but there's interesting differences are trying to get everyone out of that institution on heavy duty trucks and poly pharmacy and they don't have a lot of success many times people end up there because they want to be
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institutionalized they don't want to be dns to touche lies at that particular moment they're scared they're frightened they have no social support they don't know how to take care of themselves they realize that their psychiatric symptoms are overwhelming them but the whole push at those institutions is to get a medicated short term stay pharma mouth they have people checking in on them but not a lot of. socialists' not a lot of care of our pharmaceuticals maybe cash to survive in our economy and then you come across the street with your great apes and if they have psychological issues or psychiatric problems they're addressed immediately it's a fine tuned approach they incorporate the same psychiatric methodology in psychiatric thinking and styles of care and they hopped in and get the right results with in an institutional setting.
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where in the fix at least in. and michael and i have lived here for the overall. that almost to the day has seen some had some experiences with invisible or she actually screwed up. in the man but rushed on a dime on a little freak from get fit. this is. definitely a big for the lives in people's minds where the differences between look goes on in your mind and what goes on reality i don't think we've got that all figured out yet
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. my brain isn't a beast. i am severely bipolar they call it bipolar rapid cycling borderline schizophrenia bipolar disorder creates noise in your brain that is constant voices come from this way and voices come from that way and it's really like being possessed by satan the nuances of mental illness require the nuances of different medications to turn down the mania because when i go off manic it is tornado. this is sarah quo extended release. take at night
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this is depakote which i take twice a day abilify which oppression do cause that sodium so i compute new vigil ambiens symbolic sim best in were as a pam a lortab zoloft seroquel extended release again aspirin and just marijuana. so that's it. how many actual pills do i take a day. twenty or more so this is the healthiest i have been ever both mentally and physically they drugs are doing their thing. and they're working. it's rare that i give in to any of the side effects although i have them every day
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. from iowa city iowa. born and raised here. joining the i would national guard when i was seventeen years old as a medic with the one on one medical company. i figured you know from the medic probably not going to be fighting people you know i'm going to be helping people. i was really into everything that the bush administration was putting out there. and. two days effort and seventeen. i joined the national guard because it seriously if they could join. right i'd say it's go time. i
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found out right before i left i was going to be station a great prison. i never in my life thought i would work in a prison facility especially not one that was mentors for abuse and torture. i was so young when i was there so frayed and i wanted to get home so badly that i just tried to do it i was ordered to do and i guess just deal with it when i go home and it's been pretty rough. i knew i had a problem when i got home running relationships giving illegal trouble and i knew i was drinking the tragic forget things that happens and i showed up at the v.a. made an appointment and they smear p.t.s.d.
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and put me on so often hydroxyzine that their. so did i have here i was taken here the v.a. has these contracts with certain pharmaceutical companies and if there's a medication that can help you or even maybe save your life you might not get that medications to them they use other medications for uses that they're really intended for just because they don't have as big a selection if i saw normal and actually read health insurance i could afford it do you think i would have to deal with this crap and having to pick from. this selection. of deals with. i really don't know what's working. so the hospital most of us the man raised nightmares every say and i wake up
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sweating. terry explain to people that at a certain point in time you have such extreme anxiety that you don't even know what to do your pacing or frying your story. just becomes overwhelming for friends and family members and it is feel you've given so much yourself and so little in return except for all these problems. i don't need medication i need help. i need somebody to listen to me talk to me if they want to give me medication diminutives in the works.
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i'm writing this book it's called tales from the script and it's kind of just assessing in the last twenty years of how the industry gets doctors to write prescriptions it's sort of a simple question but i think it's complex much research and rabbit and i do i do this chapter i talk about well what anthropologists do is a lot like what drug reps do you know we have to do reconnaissance we have to build relationships all for different reasons you know one is for to gain knowledge and insight to help people hopefully and then and the other you know it's to make a buck. from a drug that's going to have to go with the scripts are being written and they're going to be written in this building in this is where they happen to keep their samples and they come in and assess this is my product i'm going to get this one nice and high and i'm going to put my competition like over here see put it down there and i just threw it in the corner depending on and it was and then i put my
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samples off right here that's probably going to stay there for a while until maybe my competition comes in the pfizer rep was here and put this back up nearly to get things back that only is a little games you play through erotic drug rep stuff at the same time i'm sending anonymous mailers on zoloft whether approved or unapproved i'm leaving it off cards everywhere what i'm trying to do is over like a three month period make a sort of kind of make it seem like it's naturally occurring as a life is a big deal this off is the new drug to be using i think many reps know that doctors think about what they do in terms of case and so if you can get a physician talking about a case they start to sell themselves let's say dr w. comes up to me and say hey how software for you says it's going to use it for depression in your patients of course is indicated for depression and so using anywhere else no i've done nothing illegal. now let's say by chance that he says well you know i do use it for some patients with panic disorder that's an off label
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use of the drug i say well i got your signature for samples would you like some clinical information on what you just told me you were using saw for sure in officially i can put his name in the computer our medical department can send all these articles on using zoloft for panic disorder which at the time illegal i never did one thing wrong i didn't mention it for off label i didn't do anything i just asked them you know some questions that was legal and that's what we're trying to do you know at least that's the way i did it times don you're right next call. might be left out here sometimes or as if. this is a pharmaceutical rep who's here probably yes. yes or no that and that's ok so they don't talk to anybody. she was terrified i felt it for in a way i actually feel sorry for drug reps because they've been trying to cast as
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the problem they're sort of the mediator between medicine and market in the sad thing for reps is they are told over and over they're delivering a message of good clinical signs. that they're going to spend a lot more time in the system than most people would have. i was adopted by american parents and i thought of behavioral issues and ended up in a group of. really what a good six years i think any kid could have a problem with that. but what's done is that there's all my childhood stuff that's this. box here stuff i hang on here. that way photographs.
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