oh. three years ago today the now infamous collateral murder video was released causing shock waves around the world it showed u.s. military personnel taking pleasure and gunning down and killing a group of people who were later found to be civilians it was dramatic and powerful and shifted public discourse on the occupation of iraq but it would never have been seen were it not for wiki leaks my next guest is a former member and was instrumental in a number of wiki leaks releases her name is brygada jiang stator she's an icelandic member of parliament who's in the u.s. for the very first time since the controversy unfolded three years ago earlier today i spoke to her about justice for bradley manning i first asked her what her response is to administration officials claiming that bradley manning deserved to be in prison and this is what she had to say. very surprised i have to say because if you look at the stuff bradley manning has.

claimed responsibility for and the media decided to publish it then he must also mean. the new york times the guardian and or speaker and all the other media that have used the material from the source from bradley manning were aiding the enemy. at the time the collateral murder video that bradley manning did release got a lot of traction you enjoying the songs were out on the media circuit say that there was an afghanistan massacre video that was much more devastating and caused much more casualties why don't we can weeks release this video. i don't know i stopped wanting for a long long long time ago i was told when i was for a short period of time a spokesperson for the kid makes. this video would be coming out i heard

that it was really different difficult to crack crack it open because it was encrypted that's the only information that i have really you were out there saying you know it was going to be any day that would be released i also spoke to another member of wiki leaks who said that it was actually destroyed from the inside and i just wanted to get your take on that i mean do you think that wiki leaks was infiltrated and that someone destroyed the video before it got out. no i don't think it was like that i think like i was told that this video was coming out julian signs and anytime soon that's why when i was asked i gave that venture. then i was reading about this recently. there were some questions being asked actually on my twitter feed about it and some people say that when daniel. destroyed a lot of the files this was one of them but i can't verify it i'm not the right

person to verify it i absolutely don't think that with the leaks were infiltrated from the inside ok it just seems like i've joined us on just being holed up american embassy what's the hold up of that video is still of vailable let's get it out there let's move on i mean the u.s. government is demanding access to your private online communications talk about why there's an ongoing investigation against you. and i don't know and this is one of the reasons i actually came to the united states to find out if there was indeed done on going investigation or if i was. a subject of any court or criminality and i'm very pleased that it looks like. the department of justice gave accurate information to the foreign affairs ministry in iceland that i was not the subject of criminal investigation they however a while ago demanded to have access to all my private data like my private messages on twitter and my ip numbers and various other very private information and also

demanded data from the four other companies but me and my lawyers we've not been able to unseal wit. the other companies there are speculations it might be facebook and google maybe skype it's impossible to know we do see a reason to took it yet again to what to to try. and seal it and. he would not release it because of a request from the department of justice because of an ongoing investigation so i'm very confused right yeah that's that's the canned response that they can't give you more information because it's part of an ongoing investigation it's definitely a vague but i'm glad that you're here getting answers i read in your read it and may that you participate in the anonymous shut down of some pay pal account as we know pay pal refusing to grant funds to wiki leaks was one of the first times at least that i know of that a corporation was putting politics ahead of profit i mean what sort of precedent

does it set when corporations are working in concert with the government to advance a political agenda. is a very dangerous pos to take i just have to verify like i had to shut down my own account the twitter action was about encouraging people to shut down their own accounts on paypal. i think thirty thousand people shut down their paypal account they to pay powar a message that we find it to be absolutely exclusive all that they allow. to get donations through paypal but nothing makes. the raising. and let's talk about the icelandic revolution that took place and two thousand and human form the party that you're now representing in parliament i mean at first when i first found out about the iceland revolution it sounded like an amazing direct democratic success story but i just read also from your am a that the new constitution drafted by the people didn't pass i mean what happened there. same old

stuff. people afraid like politicians the reason why we actually in the end. demanded like i was one of the people demanding before i became an m.p. that the constitution would be written by and for the people of iceland because the parliament has been trying to do this for seventy years our constitution is a reason. cycle dana's constitution from the time you know denmark actually gave us it when it gave us this constitution we have now as a president when we detached from the colony and gained our independence and so but i still think you know even if it looks really bleak with the new crowd sourced constitution i will do everything in my power to ensure after we have elections now on the twenty seventh of april i will do everything in my power that the first issue on the agenda with the new parliament will indeed be this

constitution that the parliament failed to take in its to process in the parliament in the last day are there any sort of safeguards that can be implemented from the people to prevent corruption and hijacking of the revolution to moving forward and how are people reacting now that didn't pass what's the swell leading up to the next election. well there's not been like much protests but because people feel that they can actually express themselves and their opinion about this deed through voting so i just got a phone call this morning from one of the newspapers in iceland telling me about the newest poll and. the parties the governmental parties that actually have promised to make sure that the new constitution will be put into due process they are being punished severely they are now both below ten percent in following one of the parties there to that has been their current government denies land and one of

them is actually scoring us high as my new political party party party. which is only like five point six so they are being punished through that system. you know of voting i don't know what will happen after elections of course polls in chains the wind right yeah. kind of hard to believe but it will definitely something to look forward to because i know that even though i still has a pretty small population it does serve as a kind of example to set for the rest of the world especially in light of all this global economic instability we're good at but i want to actually go back to joining us sondre really quickly because he's been holed up in the ecuadorian embassy he hasn't faced these rape allegations in sweden i mean do you think that this whole case against him was a setup for him to ultimately be extradited to the u.s. . i don't think so i think

however the case has been transformed in this process of all these years since this happened in sweden i don't know exactly what happened in sweden that this for a court to rule on right so i think it would be very useful for everybody for him and these two women. that he would go and sort of just wrap it up so that we can move on and forward with focus on actually what is best but i think. in relation to the extradition and the reason why it has been difficult for this we just authorities to say look we promise he won't be extradited i have been very vocal about the roots we just thought he should actually say he won't be extradited the problem they are facing is that the there has been no extradition request there was just recently i heard i haven't been able to read it myself. a lawyer or

a professor from the constitutional. court in sweden that says that there's no way they can extradite him to the u.s. so it's a risk and maybe it is a risk worth taking to go there and if there would be any danger you know i know that i and so many people from all over the world would definitely rise. to defend him and stuff that from happening but it's a risk that he has to evaluate if it's worth doing or not my duty or my responsibility or even my opinion doesn't really matter in this case well i think i think it's up to him i think it's fair to say that there is a chance a good chance especially since you know even though they said that there is no file to actually i mean of course when a country is denying to say definitively whether or not this will ultimately happen i mean of course it's unprecedented for a country to cross country lines an extra person is not a u.s. citizen it does seem like that will ultimately be the case unfortunately about i'm

glad to know that you know people will have his back but i definitely don't blame him for not wanting to take the chance thank you for coming on the show and just breaking all of this down wiki leaks icelandic revolution really appreciate. john stator my pleasure my pleasure. will it take a break from my preaching for now it stay tuned to hear from the journalist on the ground in my arm of the conflict next. is trying to get rid of. a treasure. worth fighting for. and the trap was no way i.

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america international ampoules in the very heart of moscow. such a good if you've never seen anything like the tests cut cut cut. i want to talk about a genocidal crisis unfolding in the southeast asian country of myanmar the deep seeded conflict rooted in generations of ethnic and religious tension between

a predominantly buddhist population of burma and the sect of rohingya muslims that share the land in the last few months the violence has escalated resulting in multiple massacres of the muslim minority. although the media remains silent this is a human rights emergency that begs the attention of the international community so they gain some insight i spoke earlier with us said beg an independent journalist on the ground in burma i first asked him to briefly explain the crux of the sectarian divide and here's what he had to say. to me the divide exists because it's a number of reasons one is the northwest. muslims who denied recognition that citizens of. this goes back. decades where. law basically didn't recognize them and the other is the muslims who are recognized as new so they're recognized as citizens are recognized as the id

cards and ethnicity of india and godly. tamil so you have this kind of religious. discrimination if you want i think a lot of people are surprised to learn that much of the violence been initiated by buddhists why is there such hostility from the buddhists toward the muslims in myanmar. started mainly because of extremist monk called earth who who reach around the country conducting hate speech is inciting people and the problem recently is central man mine. was apparently because of a disputed poll show but from information that we have. haven't from what we've been we've been talking to people it seems entirely orchestrated for an excuse to

start this conflict and i don't want to call it a conflict because one side. has the backing of the state and it's completely oppressing the other so it's not done with like the ethnic conflict it's this this vi this is benefiting someone and for many unspent affecting the military the minute she were ruling. a few years ago and that is reforms taking place and and some people just seem to think that it's a way of the minute she really is. just reminding everybody she only comes when they're around and say you're speaking about the attack i was on the twentieth of march or believe me wrote about it on your blog where you you recount some eyewitness testimony of what happened and make. what did happen and why and explain more about what you're saying about how you think that it was in part orchestrated and also we're not even talking about or he were talking about

a greater muslim minority correct. yeah ben officially says that it's about five percent muslims but it's more like twenty percent in this country now what happened was apparently there was a dispute go shop a muslim old gold shop in the central. in melanoma. and after this summer try selling some fake gold a dispute happened a mob formed and rents on a rampage and the rampage there that's for an hour or two lasted for two days people who are hiding children were killed by a cadence say buddhist monks at a mob not only killed beat and stabbed people but actually burnt people a lot of. internally displaced people that i've interviewed and the reason i think many of the seem to think that it's orchestration is that the efficiency by

which it took tastes and the incompetence of the police the police were unable to protect you but in some cases the police were begging the mobs not to kill a group of women and the police would ensure that these women would worship these monks and then they were led to live and this is i witness accounts from people that i've spoken to and interviewed well said the pictures are horrifying the ones that i did see on your blog i want to talk about the impetus that i've been brought you to the country and how they've been reporting on a lot of different situations going on in the world a lot of global conflicts but what was the impetus for you to go here and talk about the condition of these camps that you've seen so far. well the reason i wear it was because of because of him following the subject of the regime here for a while now so the tendency of mainstream media is to wait until

a lot of people get killed and go unreported and disappear so we have to mask of already last year with one june another one in october so we created funded. for myself another journalist to be able to come out here so entirely funded by people that were concerned or people that were prepared to fund the project my name wasn't given the jonas name was given either because we don't want anybody to know it was about the project so. we raised enough money i came out and. cannes it's really. the conditions. conditions are terrible they have a curfew it's difficult to get into the camps they're not allowed to the areas. some of the i.d.p. camps on registered. built on flood pains and the rainy season is only way tweeks away and it's going to cause a massive problem there's malnutrition there's not enough aid coming in there's no

roads no electricity. no schools no health facilities these people are really really struggling and the outside world seems to be of the view as to what's taking place so we've just been working and trying to report on what i'm seeing and trying to kind of spread the word and try to trying to create awareness about the plight of the running here and how are people receiving you once they find out that you are indeed there to report on ringing yes. i think it's been. really well in terms of outside the outside world. massive operation anonymous. which is been really helpful but inside. burma once i first arrived in scituate which is the main city in america you know there were smiles and people waving thinking i was

a tourist but after a few days or realizing that i was going into the i.d.p. camps to meet certainly change you could. feel this kind of hostility towards us and there were a few incidents where people sent. to myself and the people of working with. actually made this question our safety but the important thing is is that i'm a foreigner i'm british i can even have the support of the british consul if need be but the reason you have no such that court big big can't jump on a plane in fact they don't even have a passport and travel permission to have to pay for which they rarely get so you know out so you know people are actually very thankful fact that we're reporting on this inside expression scituate it was very very hostile and i want to put this article you mentioned this earlier about the i read that has actually been purposely blocked by the burmese government i mean why is it that they're blocking

aid through here as end and are they doing anything at all to help the situation i said. the burmese government on doing anything to help from the room yes far so i can see and i think as far as they're concerned for them are a problem they don't recognize them as citizens before the violence started situ of us fifty percent. fifty percent. fifty percent muslim and fifty percent not muslim and after the violence that it's totally changed a lot of rain you have tried to escape a lot of the drought ended up in bangladesh some of them don't the reason i think that the government doesn't want to get through is because you know if aid is going through it shows that there's a problem the pressing is a minority in the country minority that's quite significant in fact and i think that maybe there's a wider political agenda here because this instability this oppression serves

somebody somebody is making profit out of this and obviously are investigating and researching and over the code and greeks will be. revealing. exposing some of the things behind this kind of life to go the joy of hatred against a really good and even muslims well let's talk about that i mean is there anything that you can tell us right now that you've uncovered of who is indeed profiting off these horrific human rights abuses are you looking for an exclusive look at something some people are making money you know it's not. it's not unknown that there's a gas pipeline was being built or there's an offshore gas. station in scituate there's a gas pipeline they want to attract business and part of the reason is that some of the rich. who are living on the site of these condom industrial dust rose all of

that's just part of the. soul someone said to make money from the sony a part of why it can reveal currency that was independent journalist assad big. believe it was only forty years ago that the first cell phone call was made and since then we've gone from a massive device like the one michael douglas wanted in the film wall street to the sleek designs of today also work as tiny computers connecting us to the rest of the world but with this revolutionary technology there's also a dark side misuse and abuse for example the national safety council states that cell phone use on the road accounts for twenty three percent of all car crashes now now citing the potentially deadly addiction for those of us with smartphones we've also willingness to come to the insidious nature of the surveillance state you see

we use and rely on them without question regardless of the fact that this technology is tracking and monitoring us everywhere we go you might be surprised at the amount of surveillance that's going on right your pocket in fact a mobile carry. there's like eight hundred to rise and are actually required by law to have the ability to monitor and track you yup the f.c.c. nine one one initiative requires that carriers have the capability to track our location within one hundred meters at all times but that's not all do you really think that an i phone whose battery you can't remove is really all about aesthetics plus there's face or facial recognition for your cell phone camera and turn to him line of how and when you can use your mobile device all been stored in massive data centers easily accessible by a third party why well because it's a matter of national security but is that really the case no as consumers were simply the pawns in a system run by corporations under

a government that those little more than serve their corporate masters no one ever the whole thing about you is a pretty useful tool for the corporatocracy to have surveillance and data mining is about tapping into and manipulating our subconscious keeping consumers hungry for the latest and greatest but it's not just about pleasing the corporation it's also about societal control in the book one thousand nine hundred four big brother took the form of the telescreen but today the telescreen is our cell phones we don't ever leave the house without it or that false sense of freedom you got with your first cell phone while not having one means the complete opposite and sadly society expects you to have one on you at all times we've been conditioned to accept this is just the way it is and hey i'm guilty of it too so while we marvel at the fortieth anniversary of this revolutionary technology sitting down for a minute an hour or even a whole day leave your phone at home go out for a walk and explore make sure reclaim your freedom.

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