killing a group of people who were later found to be civilians was dramatic and powerful and shifted public discourse on the occupation of iraq but it would never have been seen were it not for wiki leaks and my next guest is a former member and was instrumental in a number of wiki leaks releases her name is brygada john stator she's an icelandic member of parliament who's in the u.s. for the very first time since the controversy unfolded three years ago earlier today i spoke to her about justice for bradley manning i first asked her what her response is to administration officials claiming that bradley manning deserved to be in prison and this is what she had to say. very surprised i have to say because if you look at the stuff bradley manning has. claimed responsibility for and the media decided to publish it then he must also mean. the new york times the guardian and or speaker

and all the other media. from the source from bradley manning were aiding the enemy. at the time the collateral murder video that bradley manning did release got a lot of traction you enjoying the songs were out on the media circuit say that there was an afghanistan massacre video that was much more devastating and caused much more casualties why didn't we can leaks release this video. i don't know i stopped. a long long long time ago i was told when i was for a short period of time a spokesperson for the kid likes. this video would be coming out i heard that it was really different difficult to crack crack it open because it was encrypted that's the only information that i have really you were out there saying you know it was going to be any day that would be released i also spoke to another member of wiki leaks who said that it was actually destroyed from the inside and i

just wanted to get your take on that i mean do you think that wiki leaks was infiltrated and that someone destroyed the video before it got out. no i don't think it was like that i think like i was told that this video was coming out julian signs and anytime soon that's why when i was asked i gave that answer. than i was reading about this recently. there were some questions being asked actually on my twitter feed about it and some people say that when daniel. destroyed a lot of the files this was one of them but i can't verify it i am not the right person to verify it i absolutely don't think that we. infiltrated from the inside ok it just seems like i've joined us on just being holed up american embassy what's the hold up of that video is still of vailable let's get it out there let's move on in the u.s.

government's demanding access to your private online communications talk about why there's an ongoing investigation against you. and i don't know and this is one of the reasons i actually came to the united states to find out if there was indeed done on going investigation or if i was. a subject of any court or criminality and i'm very pleased that it looks like that the department of justice gave accurate information to the foreign affairs ministry in iceland that i was not the subject of criminal investigation they however a while ago demanded to have access to all my private data like my private messages on twitter and my ip numbers and various other very private information and also demanded data from a four other companies but me and my lawyers we've not been able to unseal widths. the other companies there are speculations it might be facebook and google may be

skype it's impossible to know we do so recently took it yet again to what you have to to try. seal it and. he would not release it because of a request from the department of justice because of an ongoing investigation so i'm very confused right yeah that's that's the f.b.i. canned response that they can't give you more information because it's part of an ongoing investigation it's definitely a vague but i'm glad that you're here getting answers i read in your read it and may that you participate in the anonymous shut down of some pay pal account as we know pay pal refusing to grant funds to wiki leaks was one of the first times at least that i know of that a corporation was putting politics ahead of profit i mean what sort of precedent does it set when corporations are working in concert with the government to advance a political agenda. is a very dangerous pos to take i just have to verify like i have to shut down my own account the twitter action was about encouraging people to shut down their own

accounts on paypal and like i think thirty thousand people shut down their paypal account that they to pay powar a message that we find it to be absolutely excuse appalled that they allow. to get donations through paypal but nothing makes. it's amazing. and let's talk about the icelandic revolution that took place and two thousand and eleven informed a party that you're now representing in parliament i mean at first when i first found out about the iceland revolution it sounded like an amazing direct democratic success story but i just read also from your am a that the new constitution drafted by the people didn't pass i mean what happened there. same old stuff. people afraid like politicians the reason why we actually in the end. demanded like i was one of the people demanding before i became an m.p. that the constitution would be written by and for the people of iceland because the

parliament has been trying to do this for seventy years our constitution is really a. cycle dana's constitution from the time you know denmark actually gave us it when it gave us this constitution we have now a suppressant when we detach from the colony and gained our independence and so but i still think you know even if it looks really bleak with the new crowd sourced constitution i will do everything in my power to ensure after we have elections now on the twenty seventh of april i will do everything in my power the first issue on the agenda with the new parliament will indeed be this constitution that the parliament failed to take and it's to process in the parliament in the last day are there any sort of safeguards that can be implemented from the people to prevent corruption and hijacking of the revolution to moving forward and how are people reacting now that didn't pass what's the swell leading

up to the next election. well there's not been like much protests but because people feel that they can actually express themselves and their opinion about this deed through voting so i just got a phone call this morning from one of the newspapers in iceland telling me about the newest poll and. the parties the governmental parties that actually have promised to make sure that the new constitution would be put into due process they are being punished severely they are now both below ten percent in following one of the parties there too that has been their current government denies land and one of them is actually scoring us high as my new political party party party. which is only like five point six so they are being punished through that system. you

know voting i don't know what will happen after elections of course polls can change. the wind right yeah. kind of hard to believe but it will definitely something i look forward to because i know that even though i still has a pretty small population it does serve as a kind of example to set for the rest of the world especially in light of all this global economic instability we're good at but i want to actually go back to joining us songe really quickly because he's been holed up in the ecuadorian embassy he hasn't faced these rape allegations in sweden i mean do you think that this whole case against him was a setup for him to ultimately be extradited to the u.s. . i don't think so i think however the case has been transformed in this process of all these years since this happened in sweden i don't know exactly what happened in sweden that this for a court to rule on right so i think it would be very useful for everybody for him

and these two women. that he would go and sort of just wrap it up so that we can move on and forward with focus on it's actually what is best but i think. in relation to the extradition and the reason why it has been difficult for this we just authorities to say look we promise he won't be extradited i have been very vocal about that it's we just thought he should actually say he won't be extradited the problem they are facing is that the there has been no extradition request there was just recently i heard i haven't been able to read it myself. a lawyer or a professor from the constitutional. court in sweden that says that there is no way they can extradite him to the u.s. so it's a risk and maybe it is a risk worth taking to go there and if there would be any danger you know i know

that i and so many people from all over the world would definitely rise. to defend him and stuff that from happening but it's a risk that he has to evaluate if it's worth doing or not my duty or my responsibility or even my opinion doesn't really matter in this case well i think i think it's up to him i think it's fair to say that there is a chance a good chance especially since you know even though they said that there is no file to extradite him i mean of course when a country is denying to say definitively whether or not this will ultimately happen i mean of course it's unprecedented for a country to cross country lines that try to person is not a u.s. citizen it does seem like that will ultimately be the case unfortunately about i'm glad to know that you know people will have his back but i definitely don't blame him for not wanting to take the chance thank you for coming on the show and breaking all of this down wiki leaks icelandic revolution really appreciate. john

stator my pleasure my pleasure. will it take a break from my preaching for now it's a turn to hear from an independent journalist on the ground in my arm of the conflict next. wealthy british study done. some time to explain the. market why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy with my next concert for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to conjure reports . ten years ago by john it was overtaking. ten years of political infighting terrorism and economic. terms in

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the book about international landlords in the very heart of moscow. where just a few selfish if anything like this just set up. i want to talk about a genocidal crisis unfolding in the southeast asian country of myanmar the deep seeded conflict rooted in generations of ethnic and religious tension between a predominantly buddhist population of burma and the sect of rohingya muslims that

share the land in the last few months the violence has escalated resulting in multiple massacres of the muslim minority. although the media remain silent this is a human rights emergency that begs the attention of the international community against an insight i spoke earlier with us said beg an independent journalist on the ground in burma i first asked him to briefly explain the crux of the sectarian divide and here's what he had to say. to me that divide exists because it's a number of reasons one is the northwest iraq and year muslims who denied recognition that citizens of burma and this goes back. decades where the. law basically didn't recognize them and the other is the muslims who are not recognized as been you so they recognize as citizens are recognized as burmese on the id cards and ethnicity of india and bengali.

tamil so you have this kind of religious. discrimination if you want i think a lot of people are surprised to learn that much of the violence been initiated by buddhists why is there such hostility from the buddhists toward the muslims in myanmar. started mainly because of an extremist monk called live through who reach around the country conducting hate speech is inciting people and the problem recently is central man mine. was apparently because of a disputed goal shop but from information that we have and from what we've learned we've been talking to people it seems entirely orchestrated for an excuse to start this conflict and i don't want to call the conflict because one side is on has the

backing of the state and it's completely oppressing the other so it's not done with like the ethnic conflict. it's this this vi this is benefiting someone and for many unspent affecting the military the minute she ruling. for until a few years ago and that is reforms taking place and and some people just seem to think it's a way of the minute she really is. just reminding everybody she only comes when they're around and say you're speaking about the attack i was on the twentieth of march or believe me wrote about it on your blog where you you recount some eyewitness testimony of what happened in mc. what did happen and why and explain more about what you're saying about how you think that it was in part orchestrated and also we're not even talking about or he we're talking about a greater muslim minority correct. yeah ben a officially says that

it's about five percent muslims but it's more like twenty percent in this country now what happened was apparently there's a dispute go shop a muslim old gold shop in the central city. in melanoma. and after this summer try selling some fake gold a dispute happened a mob formed and rent on a rampage and the rampage there that's for an hour or two lasted for two days people are hiding children were killed. as a cadence say buddhist monks at a mob not only killed beat and stabbed people but actually burnt people alive i. interned in just place people that i've interviewed and the reason i think many of the seem to think that it's orchestration is that the efficiency by which it took case. the incompetence of the police the police were unable to protect it but in

some cases the police were begging the mobs not to kill a group of women and the police would ensure that these women would worship these monks and then they were led to live and this is i witness accounts from people that i've spoken to and interviewed well said the pictures are horrifying the ones that i did see on your blog i want to talk about the impetus that i've been brought you to the country and how they've been reporting on a lot of different situations going on in the world a lot of global conflicts but what was the impetus for you to go here and talk about the condition of these camps that you've seen so far. well the reason i went was because of because of been following the subject of the regime here for a while now so the tendency of mainstream media is to wait until a lot of people get killed and go unreported and disappear so we had to mask of

already best year with one june another one in october so we created funded. for myself another journalist to be able to come here so entirely funded by people that were concerned or people that were prepared to fund the project my name wasn't given the jonas name was given either because we don't want anybody to know it was about the project so. we raised enough money i came out and the ring cans it's really. conditions. conditions are terrible they have a curfew it's difficult to get into the cans they're not allowed to the areas. some of the i.d.p. camps and registered i don't build in flood pains and the rainy season is only way tweeks away and it's going to cause a massive problem. there's not enough aid coming in there's no roads no electricity . no schools no health facilities these people are really really

struggling and the outside world seems to be of the view as to what's taking place so we've just been working and trying to report on what i'm seeing and trying to kind of spread the word and try to trying to create awareness about the plight of the running here and how are people receiving you once they find out that you are indeed there to report on ringing as. i think it's been. really well in terms of outside the outside world. massive operation anonymous. which is been really helpful but inside. burma once i first arrived in scituate which is the main city in america and you know there were smiles and people waving thinking i was a tourist but after a few days or realizing that i was going into the i.d.p. camps to meet suddenly change you can literally feel this kind of hostility towards

us and there were a few incidents where people saved. to myself and the people of working with. actually made this question our safety but the important thing is is that i'm a foreigner i'm british i can leave the support of the british consulate if need be but the reason you have no such a court big they can't jump on a plane in fact they don't even have fought and trial and permission we should have to pay for which they really get so you know out so you know people are actually very thankful fact that we're reporting on this but inside expression scituate it was very very hostile and i want to put this article you mentioned this earlier about the i read that has actually been purposely blocked by the burmese government i mean why is it that they're blocking aid through here yes and and are they doing anything at all to help the situation and said. he's going to on doing anything to

help from the room yes far i can see and i think as far as they're concerned for them are a problem they don't recognise them as citizens before the violence started situ was fifty percent. fifty percent. fifty percent muslim and fifty percent not muslim and after the violence that it's totally changed a lot of rain gives try to escape the lot of the drought ended up in bangladesh some of them don't the reason i think that the government doesn't want to get through is because you know if aid is going through it shows that there's a problem the oppressing the minority in the country minority that's quite significant in fact and i think that maybe there's a wider political agenda here because this instability this oppression serves somebody somebody is making a profit out of this and obviously are investigating and researching and over the

code and greeks will be. revealing. exposing some of the things behind this kind of i'd go the job of hatred against a real indian even muslims well let's talk about that i mean is there anything that you can tell us right now that you've uncovered of who is indeed profiting off these horrific human rights abuses are you looking for an exclusive look at something some people are making money you know it's not. it's not unknown that there's a gas pipeline was being built there's offshore gas. station in scituate there's a gas pipeline they want to try business part of the reason is that some of the rich. who are living on the site of these condom industrial and industrial zone that's just part of the. soul someone said to make money from the sony

a part of why it can reveal currently i was independent journalist assad big. believe it was only forty years ago that the first cell phone call was made and since then we've gone from a massive device like the one michael douglas wanted in the film wall street to the sleek designs of today also work as tiny computers connecting us to the rest of the world but with this revolutionary technology there's also a dark side misuse and abuse for example the national safety council states that cell phone use on the road accounts for twenty three percent of all car crashes now aside from the potentially deadly addiction for those of us with smartphones we've also willingly succumb to the insidious nature of the surveillance state you see we use and rely on them without question regardless of the fact that this technology is tracking and monitoring us everywhere we go you might be surprised at the amount

of surveillance that's going on right your pocket in fact a mobile carry. there's like eight hundred to rise and are actually required by law to have the ability to monitor and track you yup the f.c.c. nine one one initiative requires that carriers have the capability to track our location within one hundred meters at all times but that's not all do you really think that an i phone whose battery you can't remove is really all about us that x. plus there's face or facial recognition for your cell phone camera and turn to him line of how and when you can use your mobile device all being stored in massive data centers easily accessible by a third party why well because it's a matter of national security but is that really the case know as consumers were simply the pawns in a system run by corporations under a government that does little more than serve their corporate masters no one ever the whole thing about you is a pretty useful tool for the corporatocracy to have surveillance and data mining is

about tapping into and manipulating our subconscious keeping consumers hungry for the latest and greatest but it's not just about pleasing the corporation it's also about societal control in the book one thousand nine hundred four big brother took the form of the telescreen but today the telescreen is our cell phones we don't ever leave the house without it or that false sense of freedom you got with your first cell phone while not having one means the complete opposite and sadly society expects you to have one on you at all times we've been conditioned to accept this is just the way it is and hey i'm guilty of it too so while we marvel at the fortieth anniversary of this revolutionary technology settle down for a minute an hour or even a whole day leave your phone at home go out for a walk and explore make sure reclaim your freedom.

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