you tell me that it was for the wonders of mass destruction saul's lives lost and does not work the u.s. soldier pulled the star spangled banner over the iconic statue of saddam hussein speaks to a decade after the fall. of order iraqi struggle to cope with sectarian violence political instability economic woes and the aftermath of the weapons unleashed by the u.s. military also. be the president's control. and he controls the past controls the future wiki leaks publishes over one point seven million u.s. diplomatic records from the kissinger era revealing washington's past involvement with dictatorships and showing its present day policies in a new. kevin

oh and here at the new center tonight just past nine pm here in moscow first deadly suicide bombings and political uncertainty and now the realities of everyday life for millions of iraqis but it's something few of them imagined when they were cheering the symbolic toppling of saddam hussein's statue in baghdad a decade ago. met the u.s. soldier who played a key part in that historic moment he says the reasons for invading iraq don't justify the lives lost. exactly ten years ago a u.s. marine from new york city made international headlines for his actions in baghdad edward chen tied a large noose around a massive statue of saddam hussein wrapped the face of that statue of an american flag before that monument was eventually toppled right now i am joined by mr chen for a one on one conversation on thank you for speaking with archie today oh you're welcome

ten years have passed since that that that moment where you essentially became a symbol for the u.s. occupation and invasion in iraq you were twenty three at the time when you climb that statue what you know about the iraq war now that you know that all army when i know those ten years longer than we expected. to still struggling to rebuild their country to have a stable government why not statue of saddam hussein and wrap the face of the statue in an american flag looking back on your actions do you think it was the appropriate thing to do us as a foreigner coming in invading a country climbing the statue of a man who was the leader of that country and wrapping the face an american flag. maybe you know iraqi civil war suit as a symbol of. you know what you know my reasons are the reasons the war we didn't

know was for us we would have been in iraq for all of them all. the fire got to bury the old and we've been going to rule them all to go home to found thousands of points of us who have seen our to fly for so long the reason we do just to show them the kind of sense i want to push on a country is just more disposable what you know about us foreign policy now that we didn't know that we know not to be told she. was because times are hard or something. the tallest man who has just come out so the public will go to war. through it all be able to control the oil without a region of course not just going to come out and and how many people are going to sign up to risk their lives it was exactly exactly where most every day we do what we're told and. we hope that you know this you know this right says our maintenance

we're going wasn't there you know we're going to follow on or but he thinks the war was for him i personally think it was for. us to you know how to gain a foothold here it's in was he was a region you know i don't believe. you tell me that it was for you to love isn't that mass destruction so rules lives lost is the thing that worked robson all hell today still no weapons to be found you don't know b. what worth it was to. free a country of a dictator yes but that if that was all reason then there's a lot of tears in the rules that used to be taken out to hope that i would it was one of the reason i look for the right reason is because of how can i not in a way. to reach a. conclusion is now worth justified. edwards thank you very much for your time. ten years or so after crippling the infrastructure of iraq during the invasion the u.s. went on to spend tens of billions of dollars on reconstruction efforts but today

life for iraqis is a daily struggle in washington myths that it cannot account for a large share of the rebuilding funds meantime the scars left by america's tools of destruction are clear to see the list of munitions includes cluster bombs which scatter hundreds of small deadly bomb metz when they detonated also the use of course as well as has been reported of depleted uranium in american shells and incendiary white phosphorous bombs that were dropped on fallujah in two thousand and four there are among the most controversial in fact dr she says the use of such weapons left severe a lasting effect you may well find some of the images coming up upsetting. it's clear that though the u.s. spoke of their help provided to iraq after the invasion notably reconstruction education and investments their so-called help resulted in the use of weapons banned by article fifty three of the geneva convention it prohibits any kind of weapon which if used where there is war can affect the areas environment climate

and water resources things that occurred in one nine hundred ninety one and then in two thousand and three are true catastrophe and all types of munitions were used of including dispenser weapons prospers ammunitions depleted uranium and chemical weapons all these types of weapons were used intentionally and on a mass scale in iraq this testing out of weapons had disastrous effects in terms of environmental contamination not to be compared even with hiroshima this is by no means an exaggeration this is not my opinion you can look up human rights watch in world health organization reports on the internet radiological monitoring held on the international level to the point radioactive contamination of southern central and in the northern areas of iraq and despite repeated calls and all the reports published by iraqi scientists the u.s. turned a blind eye on the issue. well ahead of her she's got

a big meeting for our next guest will join a band or gilligan senior reporter for the u.k.'s telegraph newspaper andrew very good evening she nice to see you tonight now if you're living in the u.k. ten years ago you couldn't have missed this story that you were at the center of the b.b.c. as well back in two thousand and three reminding our viewers that may not be up to speed on a you claim to british government report beefing up iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction have been sexed up you didn't believe it what then raised raised your suspicions why did you question it as you did. well it was being quite widely questioned actually at the time because particularly the claim that that is cad weapons of mass destruction ready to fire forty five minutes notice now the fact is if such weapons had existed they would have been found fairly quickly and yet a month or so after the conflict ended in fact six weeks after the conflict ended there hadn't been found and that tended to show that that claim wasn't true i was

naturally interested in how that claim would come to appear in the dossier it featured very heavily in the in the media coverage at the time if you remember as the government was trying to persuade us that we needed a war with iraq and so i talked to lots of intelligence contacts i had and people involved with the intelligence world and one of the people i talked to was government weapons scientist david kelly who told me that the dust had been transformed to make it sexy sexed up and blamed us to campbell the chief government spin doctor for some of the transformations of course the doctor no longer with us who paid a heavy price as well how do you feel about what's transpired ten years on. well i feel that the story has been broadly vindicated and never concealed the fact that i made a couple of mistakes in the detail but i think the essential claim that the dossier was sexed up that the intelligence services were unhappy about it and alastair campbell was at the heart of that process those three essential claims are quite

clearly correct and i don't think anyone seriously disputes that now accept handful of people around the former prime minister tony blair so i'm reasonably happy with how that's worked out your opinion of vatican two thousand disadvantage sorry and your opinion back in two thousand and three years ago is the sheer amount of. of misery that's been caused the people of iraq and of course the problem is that my source lost his life a very exacting indeed i'm sorry to interject ten years ago do you believe in much if you still have a hundred do you believe that the people the top in washington and london knew that there were no weapons of mass destruction in iraq is that your belief now. no i don't don't think any of us believe that there were no weapons of mass destruction indeed both i and david kelly believe that there were weapons of mass destruction we just didn't believe that they were a threat. but don't forget that everybody always had thought for the previous ten

years since the previous gulf war the previous twelve years. that iraq had w m d but that had never been seen in the probably been described as a very small amount that we know was the didn't throw although their weapons of mass destruction they were in a large enough scale to cause as much of a problem so why write the law it was not the law it was the lie was not that iraq had w m d i think everybody sincerely believe that to be true i believed it to be true why it said and behave like that if he had nothing we now know he was bluffing but nonetheless it was a great reasonable logical inference to draw that he had something because of his attempts to obstruct the un weapons inspectors or lie wasn't that the lie was the claim that those weapons of destruction mass destruction were a growing and serious threat a threat so serious. they needed a preemptive war to deal with them so it begs the question we knew that to be a lie and a lot of a lot of people in the british intelligence assessment knew that to be alone so it begs the question if the danger was not that imminent why was iraq invaded there.

well i think it was invaded precisely because it was weak actually i think they tony tony blair in particular had had been through let's not forget the kosovo war a war in which similar predictions of doom had been made by the liberal classes you know refugee columns hundreds of british dead you know regional destabilization and none of those predictions that come true so he thought that iraq would be like another kosovo he thought that this was a fairly easy and cheap thing that he and bush could do it would send a message to the bad guys sadam would be defeated fairly quickly the rescue people would welcome the invaders the invasion would be easy and quick he thought he could score another big kind of military victory and also win brownie points with george bush all of those things were the biggest miscalculations attorney place like what was the driving force was it was it the british side of the american side. it was the american side i think i mean how had the british been left to their own devices

i don't think we'd have had a war in iraq but the failing on britain's side was they were only too willing to go along with a plainly absurd plan to invade iraq a plan which had absolutely nothing to do with al qaida absolutely nothing to do with nine eleven but was basically being done to kind of demonstrate strings and and the other thing that the recent the reason the american people often ask me why do you think george bush went to war in iraq i think let's not forget that bush was elected in two thousand as a basically a politically crippled president he actually got fewer votes than the guy who lost he was effectively a court appointed president appointed by the supreme court who decided the results of the florida electoral vote he then lost his majority in the senate when a senator jim jeffords defected to the other side he was it was looking like a lame duck president from the off and then suddenly a year or so later eighteen months after he took office comes nine eleven and he's

immediately transformed into one of the most powerful presidents ever be the country rallies to him he can pretty much do anything you want to get any law he wants passed through congress and i think he enjoyed being a war president and he wanted to be a war president a little bit longer that's why he went to war with andrew we've got to leave it there was a great time tonight i'm going to get no singapore to the telegraph thank you very much. coming up on the program on r t live still ahead the sensational history lesson for the world's top whistleblower we delve into nearly two million diplomatic cables published by which put america's foreign policy of years past under the spotlight.

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the international landlord in the very heart of moscow. logan trapped in ecuador an embassy for over nine months but still fighting to blow the lid on global politics julian assange has now released over one point seven million u.s. diplomatic cables for the nine hundred seventy s. but she's dubbed the most significant political publication ever. been examining wiki leaks his biggest release to date as it is. according to julian assange the us administration can't be trusted with controlling its own history so he's had to come along and do this he controls the president controls and he controls the past controls the future and that is because of the vital role that history plays in deciding our interpretation of what is happening in the world the period of the one

nine hundred seventy s. in diplomacy is referred to as the big bang this is when the international order came to beat the most incriminating cables are likely to be the ones that reveal the relationships that the u.s. administration had with some very dictatorial regimes back in the one nine hundred seventy s. we've got franco's spain pinochet's chile the jointer ruled greece they're all known to have committed appalling crimes with the support of the american administration and perhaps the most illustrative quotation within this huge release of cables comes from henry kissinger himself now he's quoted as saying the illegal we do immediately the unconstitutional takes a little longer in a conversation with a turkish in a separate official now so many critics that's one line that will speak volumes about u.s. foreign policy and we've already seen reports actually that site wiki leaks saying

that the vatican may have collaborated with the u.s. in supporting the pinochet coup in chile which we all know saw a very bloody regime come to power there's already a scandal in india over the release of the new cables as the late prime minister rajiv gandhi may have been a middle man for a swedish company trying to sell weapons to india there are also unconfirmed reports that cables are going to reveal that under cia orders the swedish secret police was spying on its left leaning citizens these reports are yet to be confirmed and there is another very big. there are unconfirmed reports that unreleased cables are going to reveal that call built the current foreign minister for sweden was in fact an informant for the cia from the nineteen seventies for many people the way in which they reveal the jew ality of u.s.

foreign policy will be very illustrative of the way that u.s. foreign policy may be functioning today so on the outside we've got a lot of talk about human rights and democracy but behind closed doors and in these private cables it looks to be like a much more complicated and often darker situation will avoid london for critics accuse wiki leaks now of going soft for the kissinger cable saying that the dated records are much of a leak but is london based our contributor should return as he explains next the publication could have a major impact. these are incredibly relevant cables they weren't able to be searched and the mainstream media doesn't like what wiki leaks is doing which is dedicated as far as. anyone interested in journalism i think would say is the powerless against the powerful one doesn't have to doubt why the united states doesn't want these cables searchable because they detail very clearly

a horrific time in us foreign policy these are stories that reverberate even today and if we do what we have to do is look at egypt for instance because the ramadan war there the seventy three kissinger's role in trying to squawk that off to try and destroy arab unity and we're living with those consequences today project k. is hardly going to cause is it a reaction like the outcry that sparked the collateral murder video showing the u.s. helicopter attacking civilians there in iraq i would actually just greatly there we can't tell whether it'll have the same impact as the so-called collateral murder video because there will be research as out there who is unemployed journalists out there will be able to find out stories and correlate the facts that come out in these cable releases with other facts to reveal other elements of u.s. foreign policy that he had to we didn't know well that's what r.t. contributor afshin rattansi thinks what do you think you can a share your thoughts on wiki leaks and your files online with us right now if you

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missiles japan for its parts placed a battery of missile interceptors in central tokyo to guard against possible rocket tests meantime north korea's pulled out its workers two from the joint industrial zone run together with sole breadwinner for thousands of north of the north citizens heck of a lot of people work there the south korean government is trying to defuse the situation saying that the door for dialogue is still open we're following it minute by minute we'll keep you updated. for. more world news in brief a powerful earthquake hits iran's bushehr province which is home to the country's only nuclear power station the six point three magnitude shocks left at least thirty people dead and injured hundreds more officials say the nuclear plant itself is not damaged but dozens of villages near the quake's epicenter have been left in ruins tremors were felt across the gulf in qatar bahrain and divide it. up legal appeals over the hunger strike a growing talum obey the us government has begun to shed more light on the

detainees protest lawyers for the captives and the big notified whether or not their clients are being force fed at the notorious u.s. military facility it made began to starve themselves over two months ago because of conditions on their indefinite detention without charge u.s. officials say forty two people are refusing or food but the lawyers claim that figure is much higher and your banking crisis could be festering in the eurozone despite the slovenian prime minister denying that the country would seek a bailout earlier mcculloch to say discuss the issue with katie pilbeam from r.t. business and artie's news editor of across. they've been told to come up with one point three billion dollars in order to sort out their banking crisis that i did in with my plan that actually creates a three percent of their g.d.p. their economy already a contract to buy two percent last year so it just gives you an idea of what the economy the situation is of the moment is the banking sector and the problem is that being told you need to recapitalize your banks was exactly what cyprus was

told the thing is they don't have the money to do that they can't afford to do that let me just jump on what yes it is what do you make of this woman sees about a billion is measured looks familiar to. me thinks the lady doth protest too much it might apply here i think you know what i'm seeing is the same old same old from the troika from brussels the same kind of mismanagement i tell you if i had a hundred thousand sitting in this living in baghdad right now i'd be pretty happy man but i'd be heading down to the cash machine with a big bag making what is reports they. only see these basically said to be slovenian banking system has misread the cost of recapitalizing so there was no way that katie gave his one point three billion dollars i think it is. the only c.v.s. command has basically said. this could be a whole hell of a lot more and it's this fits the bill it fits the bill of the of all of the bailouts were seen with argentina with cyprus either with with spain seen with

portugal that the powers that be don't want to end up with are going to face and they'll say everything's fine everything's fine everything's fine until of course it's too late and then we enter a situation like cyprus where suddenly there's a lockdown on privately held accounts there's an unprecedented rate going on while at the same time brussels mandarins are saying no no this was a one off who's to blame is it the banking sector is it is it this day i mean well a lot of people are saying is about the country never privatized their three top banks the biggest ones they create order this money these toxic loans and there are answer to all of this is to actually just put it. which they're calling state run debt consolidation agency so you take it all out of the big banks so that they can then start lending to businesses and be completely clean and transparent and just put in the bank these are the same guy and the o.e.c.d. these are the same guys that in april two thousand and eight so the irish banking system quote unquote was well capitalized and profitable you know so we can never

be too sure about how we are actually how efficient these guys card so i can tell you that the bombs are basically saying no thank you very much and they're actually performing the same as and i suspect a slew of the peripheral countries in there about five percent which is dangerous and the i bet has said that if the lawmakers continue to push measures on the economic for these countries on the economic depression they're not going nowhere just putting so much pressure on the economy instead of the actual problem they drastically overestimated the impact of a star exactly exactly. as an economic measure as an economic drastically underestimated the impact of austerity. dangerously explosive social device. so it has been rumored for a while and i would keeping an eye on it for you now coming up after the break working as a low paid cleena shouldn't be a life in danger in occupation but it is just some palestinian women we report on after the break.

you know i always try to stay clear of falling into the trap of fake outrage on this program people love to come on t.v. and be angry over this and angry over that just to fill air time but trust me sing obama signing into law with that wacky lobster like way he has of writing the bill marked the month santo protection act well it does not put a smile on my face that's for sure not only does this bill effectively bar federal courts from being able to halt the sale or planting of g.m.o. seeds and crops no matter what the health concerns are according to ib times but the bill was also written by senator roy blunt who's gotten sixty four thousand dollars for his political campaign pain from the g o giant monsanto itself so that's what it costs to allow companies to possibly poison millions if not all americans with risky and proven g.m.o. technology sixty four thousand dollars that's not even enough to buy

a decent house sixty four thousand dollars is chump change well citizens of america now you know how much your lives are worth in washington but that's just my opinion . i. know that he knows our life. in eternal silence on the inner core and the invisible. every day is a struggle. for our children sleep soundly at night. we are palestinian women working in israel we've done more for our kids than our husbands know we are phantoms in this life.

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