ation a permanent false in my lady's point earlier claims there and the insurgency mission would be over in a matter of weeks. and to jamie on hunger strike the guantanamo bay allegedly tries to take his own life as inmates reach a breaking point with the protests now in his third month. and no escape from prying eyes the private investigation industry is thriving in britain as a leg of legal restrictions allows anyone to keep tabs on you at any time. at seven pm here in moscow are you watching r t live with me. the pentagon is sounding the alarm over the french troops withdrawal from mali saying

local forces are unfit to take over paris pull the first contingent out of the volatile state on tuesday they plan to withdraw three quarters of their force by the end of the get and keep a thousand strong deployment runs intervened in mali generally to drive islamist rebels out of the country and assess us early reports a lot has changed for paris is since the start of the mission they say though that they still plan on that continuing battle adoption of the four thousand strong military personnel who are at least on the ground and keeping these a one thousand feet as they say will be part of a few sure you when a peacekeeping mission i were over this is in stark contrast to what first foreign minister now for five years had said in here in your week. regarding france's direct involvement it is only a matter of later on in comments barca but we have no intention of staying forever . now the french have gone into mali a warning against the threat of as long as the extremism advance to europe no

clearly any plan of a complete withdrawal is off the table now this one thousand troops that they plan to keep on the ground falls under a call made by u.n. secretary general ban ki moon in deploying about eleven thousand two hundred troops and one thousand four hundred forty three least on the ground in mali after major combat now bunking was planned also when he was a parallel force one that will directly deal with all cargo linked militants and extremists according to reuters and this is likely to be french troops as well while also spoke with a group of former french intelligence officer who had been stationed in northern africa and the middle east for about twenty years and he says the from the very start he had been doubtful the operation in mali was going to be short french army exposed to the insurgents and distance from the city is ok it was not so complicated. and so what they would do to get through it if you

just would come back exactly as they did you have got to stand against this when the soviets. you know in one nine hundred ninety exactly as they were going to leave the euro when the last american so deal with troy executives they did as they did an iraq when the u.s. troops. didn't so france is back if not before well you could include coincidences shortbread don't exist now where france well on had first announced there's a military operation in mali two thirds of the french people were in support of these actions now many observers and analysts have already said that if this becomes a long drawn out war public opinion could quickly change. just as the first foreign troops will leave in mali france was engaged in a measure of pensive to wipe out militant hideouts in a previously liberated area of the country in our cheesy goal examines the challenges throughout a campaign that stretched the military from the very beginning. miley has become

yet another front in the global war on terror but this anti terror operation just may be too difficult to scale down so quickly first let's review what's already been done and more importantly how efficient is what this operation started with and support of ground troops from the skies has always been one of its foundation stones the first planes to battle the islamists came from here a french military base in chad helicopter support came from another base in so some of the aviation was a leader to the capital of mali and soon other bases were engaged as well like the ones in ivory coast and news year but then there's the question of refueling the mission for pilots going out of chad for instance usually takes seven to eight hours and they have to be refueled five times along the way this is where the u.s. and germany come in but if german planes have to come from sinegal an american planes have to come all the way from spain so all together this is quite

a complicated combat scheme when it comes to ground troops the french got into this by themselves somalis army was and still is demoralized if four and a half thousand troops even can be called in the army and pretty much the only supporters that the french have and quite unexpectedly i might add are two thousand troops from chad and when it comes to the west well no one skiing on sending troops there directly britain is only looking at sending combat instructors to train troops with all this effort paris has managed to push the islamist to the north of the country securing key cities but with fighting still going on in the mountains and a string of suicide bomber attacks in the several cities it's clear that the islamists are not exactly all out nor are they defeated which raises the comparison with another country afghanistan where the terrorists live in the midst of peaceful civilians the also use so-called hit and run guerrilla tactics so the french have been combing through have valley north of golf believe that. many of the islamists

can be hiding there but the question is what comes next if we look at the neighboring countries well their borders are porous and experts say the islamists could travel through them without any serious problems they also warn the past decades has shown that such interventions don't solve crises but deepen them and generate new conflicts there are rising fears nearby western sahara could turn into a new terror hub and right now it's really unclear who is going to turn who's going to take care of that problem and hell if most of french troops to leave it's going to be a completely different game for the remaining thousand the un is talking about some additional attack force but so far it's merely an idea while the clock is ticking let's not discuss the france's ongoing involvement in mali with journalist and author very landay who has covered french policy in africa he joins us live now from paris there mr land france

a vow did you completed the anti rebel operation within weeks but now when it ends up laid end up leaving a permanent force behind why the sudden shift. well it was that they probably didn't realize what they were getting into remember calling paul warned york bush on the eve of the invasion of iraq you break it you own it and that's went to the french and. that's what they're confronting now they're getting into a situation that was much more complex and much more than dangerous probably than they thought it was going to be on the other hand at the time they and they felt there was no other choice by the way the nie i think one of the problems is hidden in dealing with this whole dispute is the fact that you really got two different forces that the french are fighting against one is the islamists the johnnies who are certainly more of al qaida but the other very powerful force is

a very strong kind of national ethnic group in mali twice and christians as your commentator we just finished speaking made absolutely no mention of that force web so ever and i think that's one of the problems is that people are not distinguishing that you've got two very important groups that they're dealing with us so if they have taken forces are incapable of resisting the insurgency or who lot of the french can actually keep the peace in that region considering all the fact is that you mentioned. well i said if you go back to the factors that i mentioned we're talking about a very strong aesthetic almost kind of a nationalist force that the french are trying to deal with as well the muslim government you know army has been dealing with it by simply trying to would lump it together as part of the terrorists and destroy them wipe them out but miley the situation there is not going to be resolved by trying to wipe out. the ethnic

groups as large and as important as those words could any other tactic have been used in mali in the first place examples let me examples of the war on terror operations elsewhere have broad tails to other countries you know well other tactics could be used and again i'll go back to dealing with the forces that are really important there and that have to be recognized if you're going to have a conclusion final conclusion to the problem that has to deal with the ethnic forces on the ground that you want a certain amount of autonomy and independence so go deals with that then you do it is it the government who deals with that is that the muslim government who deals with that or do they also help from outside to come in to help deal with that situation of the ethnic various the mali a government in the end is going to have to deal with that the french have been trying to get them to really use that they're going to have to deal with the twelve rigs and demand for kind of an aesthetic independent autonomous area in northern mali and the this point the money and government people who run it have been very

i'm interested in doing that they don't want to recognize and as i say they're trying to lump them all together as terrorists and as long as that goes on there will not be a solution to the problem let me ask you this mr land let's put aside to the reasons that you've given us into use up the need to bury as and so forth is say a real motive behind differences intervention in this conflict. i think there may be economic motives frats has very important noorani a mines in neighboring major investments there. that's certainly part of the picture but i think if you go back to what the situation was like in january when the intervention took place miley really seemed to be coming apart at the seams the problem was that this could have been dealt with there were warnings many warnings over the past few years that this was happening that mali was already

a failed state but nobody people didn't want to recognize those warnings and act on them so it got to this critical point of a basically a collapse of the country and at that point. the groups terrorist groups come in and were on the point of taking over a mali journalist and author barry lenda live from paris and giving us his insights on the mahdi. now at the mass hunger strike at guantanamo bay continues for a third month a lawyer for one of the protesters as just been told his client tried to commit suicide going into a letter from another inmate to the incident took place last month it's still not clear whether the man succeeded in taking his own life the u.s. military has strongly deny the claim is saying they have been no recent suicide attempts and that no lives are in danger at guantanamo but lawyers paint a different picture that some one hundred thirty detainees are trying to starve themselves to death in protest at mistreatment and indefinite detention legal

appeals and mounting public outcry are putting more pressure on the white house to deliver on its promises to close the facility but is granted to the pentagon is committed to pumping more cash into keeping it open. the time of each detainee in guantanamo costs us taxpayers eight hundred thousand dollars a year there one hundred sixty six captives on the island now half of them have been cleared for release so there's absolutely no reason to have them there but the u.s. still spends millions of dollars every year to keep them behind bars many find it even more puzzling in light of ongoing furloughs among public sector workers let's put this number eight hundred thousand dollars in perspective not a lot of people can boast costing the government eight hundred thousand dollars a year a prisoner in the u.s. cost the taxpayers twenty seven thousand dollars thirty times less that is the average salary of a public school teacher here is fifty one thousand dollars one guantanamo detainee

cost taxpayers more than the president himself he makes four hundred thousand dollars a year and if you think that the deity's revolutionary is life there you're wrong to call general john kelly who is in command of the facility is falling apart so there he was two weeks ago asking congress for almost two hundred million dollars to renovate one tunnel that should. come on top of the one hundred seventy seven million dollars that the government spends every year to keep the prison running will the investment make the detainee's lives easier most of whom are there without having the informally accused of anything maybe not none of these projects would have their lifestyle if you will but some of the projects will add security in better ease of movement for them that will benefit the guard force not the detainees but on top of renovations there are the costs and the taxpayers bill for keeping guantanamo open is only going to go up there aging as we all are and there

are certain a certain lack of support facilities in that general area. and if we're planning on keeping them there forever there's an enormous amount of expense in terms of both caring for the inmates and then also dealing with our staff that's down there that has to do that. you know i think medical care is one of the biggest concerns this kind of investment suggests that the authorities do not plan to see the prison close they need time so keep saying they're committed to shutting it down but they never say waiting in congressman smith's matter for we've got you know not to use the cliche joe but it is the hotel california you check in but you can't ever check out in washington i'm going to check on the u.s. air force lieutenant colonel burial to represent some of the detainees and spoke to us by phone from guantanamo he says the prison is being held without trial because no charges can be brought against them. i don't think the problem with the thing

really is the guantanamo bay i think the problem originates in washington d.c. i'd review the cases of my clients and i can tell you that the information in those cases the extremely ploy let's talk about when this the so-called evidence came about it was back in the bush cheney administration we were talking about imminent attacks and danger color charts and look at these women in crop dusters and attack forces attacking the united states on wednesday and friday that's the same information that there are trying to say today that it's somehow relevant or valid when in fact if they could find even one i assure you they would shut me out they would do that human rights organization that's supposed to be here doing something which in fact is doing very little fact that the remaining silent indicate to them in guantanamo bay that they've been wholly irrelevant and that you know if you're a human rights organization and you're supposed to be involved in report on what's happening in a prison officer or that's out of sight and out of mind and you fail to do that

then you've made a decision to not to sit in is to think for one side and that's not the mission we were in guantanamo bay. the u.s. military has bothered the media from visiting the facility until at least next month and is already in the queue there for any exes in the meantime though we're bringing you a comprehensive coverage of events at the detention center with testimonies from lawyers as well as come commentary from officials experts and activists all on our website at r.t.e. dot com coming up next here. we reported on how many young educated greeks a-c. moving abroad as their only option as austerity and joblessness takes a stranglehold on their country.

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international at the very heart of moscow. you're watching on t.v. the standoff on the korean peninsula can be resolved peacefully says russia's top diplomat so the game of rob is meeting u.s. secretary of state john kerry in london i head of the g. eight foreign ministers meeting let's get more now live from archies probably boyko bali how things are shake shaping up. high that's how he was speaking today the russian foreign minister was keen to stress that russia and the u.s. have no disagreements over the issue of north korea although he was keen to stress that missile launches and nuclear weapons then only last thing myself and this is an extremely serious situation taking place he warned against using military maneuvers in order to fly that escalate the situation or intimidate sort of various

sides he says that putting a stop to this mutual military muscle flexing is going. to be a very positive step and he was also keen to warm the rhetoric on both sides stir tension really and is equally dangerous just like military maneuvers in the words of sag a level of counter threats and counts of blame or an extremely dangerous game to engage in because eventually. with this rhetoric one side could end up backing itself into a corner where they have to actually do something in order to prove to the public that it's not just rhetoric so it's a very dangerous game to engage in and sergey lavrov today was calling for calm over the situation the korean peninsula and of course it's not the first time that russia has been calling for calm. simply this weekend russian president vladimir

putin said that if the situation in korea was to escalate into a military conflict then the russian then the nuclear disaster of chernobyl would seem like a children's fairy tale so a lot of warnings and a lot of calls for calm from the russian side and of course we're going to be watching these meetings as they continue today. correspondent there from london giving us an insight on that meeting. right and staying on the peninsula south korea says the north could test launch a missile at any moment as part of the celebrations of pyongyang its main national holiday the communist state is preparing to mark the birthday of its founder kim il sung on the fifteenth of april lows korea typically uses the celebration as an opportunity to display its military strength washington seoul and japan have all

raised their military a lead levels in the pacific led to this all american stance on the north korea and other so-called alkali states will be under discussion in cross talk peter lavelle this regime is going to drag this as a potential to drag us all into a nuclear nightmare and they've put the us wants regime change there and you know first of all i would argue that when it comes to hearing to international norms that probably the biggest outlier state right now is the united states self. the u.s. has assumed for itself the already to do whatever it wants regardless of international norms and i would look at the the invasion of iraq the threatened war against iran which which does not pose an imminent threat to the u.s. certainly and probably to anybody and the use of a place like the one that defies all international norms these are things and the use of drone attacks in any country we want to attack.

thousands of private investigators are now operating in britain and their ranks continue to grow with high tech surveillance equipment and readily available installs anyone can become a pm and legal loopholes allowing them to work on licensed and and registered server it's reports. bribery values corruption no and of it. is not difficult to make yourself visible it's more difficult to be lawyers. when you start you're always thinking oh my goodness they they know i just know they know that. they did and there are now an estimated ten thousand private investigators operating in britain despite being perceived as a shadowy world of whispers in secret industry continues to grow in fact it's

moving from the shadows and on to the high street as the course of covert devices pulls more and more individuals are making the surveillance gadgets easily available in stores like this one and the world of private investigation it's attracting some interesting characters and is not suspected as who just twenty one years old living is worked at answers investigations for a year now she knows her way around like a verse equipment well she's fast learning the tricks of the trade electro. mars invest. all of that kind of stuff it's all available quite a lot of people mainly because of this. they ration is there is always been there but they just a sheen i think there is some data protection that there's nothing really but recently the law governing public surveillance in the u.k. has changed the protection of freedoms act two thousand and twelve was introduced

ensuring local authorities obtain legal authorization before they put anyone under surveillance after it was revealed that many we using surveillance for minor matters such as littering the private investigators though no such law exists. so i don't have to get the. or thora to from any body of very surveillance one to one a recent reports by big brother watch documented local authorities who are bypassing regulation by hiring private investigators. it's why many and now calling for industry licensing i think it's absolutely essential that we have some kind of regulation over private investigators a licensing system that means that we know who exactly is license and their means of surveillance that they're using having spent thirty years in the police force former detective inspector james harrison gryphus knows well the risks of private

investigation in the wrong hands you know you've read about honor killings and all that sort of thing that go on when people disappear and there's a lot of people disappear. under pressure from from people to do certain things that they don't want to do and then the people who are pressurized in them want to find them and you've got to do your due diligence and make sure that you're not putting anybody you know in a position of danger but with kill you that cameras listening devices tracking devices and much more all now available cheaply on the high street these days anyone can be a private investigator there's nothing secret anymore in this in this country i mean walking down the high street you know under surveillance surveillance the surveillance is just there it's what happens. you know it's a way of life now isn't it. but the lack of regulation means that in the u.k. right now anyone can it any time be watching you no one is watching that

third. london. greece is struggling to meet the tough conditions are said by international lenders the castro country is hoping to get a long delayed tranche of a crucial bailout package this month in you and i m f inspectors are now assessing as things progress in meeting the terms of the hundred and thirty billion euro rescue the greek finance minister has promised there will be no boss' territory cuts but lenders are pressing for severe job reductions in the country's gloated public sector they're demanding that twenty five thousand workers are laid off this year and a total of one hundred and fifty thousand by two thousand and sixteen in the meantime to school belt tightening and rising unemployment or driving young greeks away from their country as tom barton reports. we refuse to work for free we demand our right to education messages of protest by youth seeing opportunities to better themselves snatched away these gems are protesting against plans to close

university departments across greece they don't want to be left behind and making too as they say slaves of the twenty first century my knowledge and satiric are two students also opposed to the so-called athena plan the government aim is to close dozens of university departments outside central city campuses but it's not even that they concede it's just a small part of the malays which seems to hang over the country's young. i believe the youth from the cities have no future so the only solution is to leave greece. maybe the president of the european parliament was right to say that an entire generation may have been lost to crisis minister to reach this situation is certainly more bleak than most. but the only retirement or working your first shifts in the city or in greece sometimes they don't even get paid don't abate for

the see so we're working every single result with some estimates of greek youth unemployment as high as sixty percent desperate times are giving rise to desperate suggestions it's not just the young greece using that word slavery we don't control fate we have slaves it is a political problem and we must become again pretty but far from rhetoric about taking to the streets and throwing off shackles many greeks i speak to are thinking just like constance struggling through these last two years of medical school so close just after these two years what do you think the future is going to hold for you. thinking of leaving greece so that if i don't make it yourself ok good luck with that cause just think of it right. there it goes leaving us here in the interview back to his studies but cost us could end up like many more greeks like him leaving greece altogether tom watson r.t.

thessaloniki greece. next as promised cross talk with people about. you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it.