t.v. u.s. seems to be faced with a growing domestic drone industry by now and numerous state lawmakers are pushing legislation to protect the privacy of their citizens we'll tell you which states are saying no to drones occupy strike debt has done plenty of work at cancelling out the debt of the common man and now they've released a report on how our current health care system helps those who are sick but also leaves them with a mountain of bills to tell you how medical doubt has become a weapon against the masses. and here's a bus that will be rolling through your neighborhood this bus has six thousand bullet holes and is a part of a demonstration here in the d.c. area so is this art or political speech. wednesday april tenth human washington d c m r hell you're watching r t and starting this hour the eye in the sky is not welcome in illinois illinois is saying not so fast when it comes to drones flying over their state now state legislators

are putting on the table legislation that aims at limiting drones surveilling their citizens as you light a shed on how privacy is compromised with productivity as it turns out they're not the only state considering curtailing drones over their skies. illinois among thirty other states saying no thank you to drone flyovers montana california and oregon among others have submitted legislation designed to set up guidelines for drone use earlier i was joined by matthew feeney assistant editor reason twenty four seven who fill the senate illinois new legislation. so i think some of the the noise state legislatures rightly want to make sure that when drones are used by law enforcement that you know that privacy is secure certainly so do you think that this expectation of privacy that people have made back the thing in the past here i certainly hope not i think you know american citizens really should feel that they have a right to privacy and that it should be protected by the legislation as unfortunately

it looks like you know a lot of people in government and law enforcement seem a little too keen to disregard citizens' privacy in light of new technology certainly so this bill what essentially require state agencies to obtain a search warrant before drugs can collect any information do you have any thoughts on that well i think that is reasonable you know americans have the right to be secure and the property and. and the homes until they also expect of a crime in which case i think it's perfectly reasonable that a warrant should be set certainly so we're saying a surgeon enjoy an activity certainly and states are attempting to regulate domestic drone activity many of them are aimed at requiring that warrant in order to justify their use how does this benefit americans like why should we care we should care because we don't want a lot of drones buzzing around being used by the law enforcement with feeble and sometimes weak excuses i think it's totally reasonable that as american citizens we expect that there are good reasons for privacy to be violated and you know i think

it is right that a lot of states have put forward the sort of legislation proposals that were put forward in rhode island required that the drones not be weaponized and bad war and then that any new sort of model used by the law enforcement was approved by an elected body like the town or city council to govern and i think that's good stuff in the right direction so what are some of the excuses that we're seeing come out for drone you well i think it's important to keep in mind out there on instances where drugs could potentially be used in the case all of. catching criminals who are on the run or off the natural disasters. but the important thing to remember is that all these things can be made small excusable if they are all bullets i require that they either attend that state or not be retained and i think that you know a lot of states are rightly arguing for that sort of magic certainly so we're seeing a certainly a lot of campaigns come out against an activity in states of we just saw this in virginia you know with with one town in particular if you if illinois is successful

and getting this legislation passed and saying we don't want drones or we're going to limit innocent restrict their activity how successful i mean are we going to see this across the border or is this just going to you know what what type of trickling a fact do you think this is going to have i mean i'm not a fortune teller i can tell you for certain but i think that we shouldn't be surprised if the scope of proposals become more and more common it's not just law and force and we have to keep in mind that drones are probably going to become increasingly useful people as hobbies and poke a lot of professional things so people might start using them for hunting for example and you know farm is another people working our culture might want to use them so we'll have to probably talk with those with a few as well i see so going back to privacy issues which are a main concern in the drone debate certainly the fourth amendment guarantees the right of freedom from unreasonable search and seizure you know talking about how these drones and in fact are violating that fourth amendment rights that we have that expectation number one that the expectation of privacy number two that we have

the right to be protected from this unreasonable searching which many of us aren't aware of well i think it's sort of quite clear and i think if you are you know not doing anything wrong that you should have the expectation that you are not going to be spied upon by law enforcement going to see it so do you think that domestic drones in their present state are a violation of the fourth amendment. it depends where and when that being used i call him to speak of every jurisdiction in the country and i'm you know even though to say that cases that you can you know possibly bring to life for us. well the web i have said where they have certainly been used in violating it i'm reasonable search and seizure or and privacy cases i can't name a specific instance because i'm not. an expert in every single jurisdiction and the country but there are also many cases out there where the legality is being seriously question certainly said you know we've seen the federal government use these drones and patrolling borders you know and mexico and canada were placing us

centrally border agents on the ground we've seen nasa use drones you know tracking storms and such do you can you offer us any alternative you know that the state could possibly be using other than these drones which have serious privacy concerns attached to them they you know kind of keeping the safety issue that we expect from the federal government in play without violating privacy are there i guess my question is are there other alternatives where you could i suppose one way to do it would be to put more boots on the ground on the borders to keep them secure but i don't think that's actually absolutely necessary you could use drones to patrol the borders as very strong legal framework that makes sure that there isn't any data being retained all that weapons on being used so i think the way to address this is that we perhaps will have an effort we have to be using this the hotel knowledge but only with the right legal framework in place certainly so can you give me an example of any legal framework that's currently in play well a legal framework saw it difficult at the moment because it's

a new technology and there are universal. frameworks in place at the moment it's something that's going to have to evolve over time certainly so do you anticipate a surge you mentioned earlier that people would start using drones for hunting do you want to submit a surgeon drone activity. the f.a.a. predicts that there will be thousands of you know civilian and drones in the skies in the coming years and you know i know you so many many different things and yet it is something that we should come to expect in matthew thank you so much for the information that was matthew feeney assistant editor reason twenty four seven so is it life or death. well state of things now private health care seems to benefit a few and leave out many of those without the ability to pay their debts will find themselves at the end of catastrophic consequences and at the heart of it medical debt is up for sale now a new strike debt report share some info as to who's making some serious bank off this debt in the report quote private healthcare and riches if you insurance

companies private equity firms pharmaceutical companies debt collectors and global of investors alike at the expense of everyone else medical debt is a weapon of class war because when patients cannot afford medical care they're forced into debt often with far ranging and catastrophic consequences. and a self-proclaimed organization that is a bailout by the people for the people and a rolling jubilee raises money to wipe up people's medical debt who can't pay it earlier today from our new york studio i spoke with debt liberator and larson from the strike debt campaign i started by asking her to explain just what this campaign is doing. rolling jubilee is a project of strike debt and what we do is we purchase debt for pennies on the dollar just like a debt collector would on the secondary market but instead of collecting on that debt we just erase it i see so you know we've covered this issue here on our team before and it's estimated that seventy million americans you know they find themselves in

a situation of some form of medical data here or there what are their rights concerning this debt well all first thing to understand is that medical debt is a huge and growing problem it affects tens of millions of americans sixty two percent of personal bankruptcies are linked to medical debt so people going into bankruptcy people losing their homes people's lives are being destroyed by medical debt and this is a problem that is virtually unheard of in other countries around the world you know when the republicans in congress a few years ago were talking about death panels they were talking about are for profit health care industry but they actually should have been this is a this is a corrupt market based system that is really ruining people's lives and we don't we don't need to live like this we can pay for medical care for every one of them is a great point that you brought up the other country is you know this is unique to the united states can you tell me why that is. we have a profit based health care system it's a simple as that you know about

a third of all the costs that we spend on health care are for marketing and for public relations things like advertising i mean we just spend way we spend much much more than other countries do and we get less there are there's a lot of research out there that shows americans are sicker and they die younger than people in other wealthy countries around the world so really we're paying more and we're getting less it makes no sense. how many people exactly have. campaign help so far well our recent medical debt purchased we bought a million dollar portfolio of medical debt all medical debt from the midwest kentucky and indiana and so that million dollars of debt cost us about twenty one thousand dollars so you can see that medical debt is sold very cheaply on the secondary market and so instead of collecting on that debt we just abolished it and it was the debt the medical debt for a little over a thousand people so those people will no longer have to pay that debt so what we're doing is really helping people number one but the second thing is

a really it's really a public education campaign we're trying to let people know that this debt is for sale that these these banks these lenders are profiting in human misery and sickness so it's about helping people but it's also about public education so just building off can you tell me about any particular cases of people that this movement may have helped specifically. we send out letters to all the debtors whose debt we abolish we send a certified letter letting them know what's happened and we invite them to contact us voluntarily we give them our information the letters for the thousand debtors whose debt we just abolish are going out this week so we haven't heard from any of those folks yet but we hope to are keeping our fingers crossed fingers crossed and when we hear from them you'll be the first to know and say so you know seventy million americans are dealing with this issue how do you pick and choose which people to help which people do not to help. right right medical debt all debt is sold in anonymous bundles so we don't know whose debt we're buying before we buy it which is another part of the industry and that's the secondary debt market is

trafficking in people so security numbers their addresses all your personal information is being bought and sold on the secondary market after we purchased the debt then we know who the debtors are and we can contact them and see so i want to talk to you briefly about the legal aspects of medical debt and if there are any laws in place to protect patients from that unavoidable mess that could happen to them you know if they're not able to pay these medical bills i.e. other than bankruptcy are we seeing any any type of laws on the books that protect these people you know we're really not optimistic there have been a few attempts to limit for example the impact that medical debt can have on your credit score and things like that but what what what they're focusing on is paid medical debt so if you pay your debt then maybe there'll be a law that's passed to protect your credit score but many many millions of people can't afford to pay their medical debt so they really nobody is looking out for them there are there is no law currently in discussion in congress that would help

most medical debtors so do you feel like this is mostly a states issue you know are we seeing this tackled at all do you find that to be the case that states are dealing with this individually. well certainly you see states like massachusetts you know massachusetts kind of pioneered the model of the mandated health insurance purchase that now the obamacare program is trying to nationalize but you know what's what's actually true if you look at the data is that in massachusetts the implementation of this program did not reduce the rates of medical debt or bankruptcies linked to medical debt so we really feel like expanding a market based system like is being attempted in places like massachusetts really isn't the solution some of the doctors and health care practitioners that we've been working with on this project from physicians for a national health program there really believe that a single payer system like they have in europe and other countries around the world where health care is nationalized is really the best at least the short term solution really to get everybody the coverage that they need so that people do not

go into debt because they get sick and see so you know a lot certainly that strike debt is dealing with do you have specific strike that have specific goals you know maybe. legislatively or even specific goals moving forward this year and how you can accomplish them if you have any. well i mean i think we're going to support our allies for example i mentioned ph d.'s working on and health care for the ninety nine percent occupied group that's working on passing legislation to get single payer but i think what straight out is also interested in is like for is furthering the conversation and trying to ask what are the options is a state run health system or a private run system are those the only two options are there other better ideas that we can come up with really we feel like this is a failure of imagination we need to be thinking collectively as a nation how do we want to fund health care how do we want to make sure that everybody can go to the doctor when they get sick what are the best options and we really want to help people who want to have a public education want to start

a public education campaign but you also want to be able to spark imagination to go to think differently about this problem we will certainly and a lot of valuable information there that was a. campaign thinks they and thanks thank you. also in new york the city is opening up its wallet after losing a legal battle with activist group occupy wall street and the charges that the city violated the act of a civil rights when they cleared out the group's encampment in zuccotti park back in two thousand and eleven and the solomon orders new york to pay the group over two hundred thirty thousand dollars in damages legal fees and that's including a forty seven thousand dollars physical damages including an area known as the people's library now that's the fifty five hundred book collection that was taken down largely destroyed with law enforcement raided the park the city initially denied destroying those books charging it was brookfield properties and stood owns the park however the court did not agree the court stated defendants a good knowledge and believe it is unfortunate that during the course of clearing

zuccotti park nov fifteenth twenty eleven books were damaged so as to render them unusable and additional books are unaccounted for now for their part movements of the occupy movement are so pleased with the outcome expressing more interest in the legal precedent that was set by the ruling that the money awarded to occupy wall street still has several other lawsuits pending against the city. thousands of immigrants and supporters gathered here today in d.c. to show their support of a proposal that would create a pathway of citizenship for millions of undocumented immigrants for more in this gathering and lopez headed over to the sea take a look. right it was rise stuff the pentagon now says they marched together for you know what. their study rhythms a testament to their fortitude her and their chance a declaration of their desires thousands of protesters came out today to demand immigration reform but they speak for the voices of millions of people across this

country asking for change and they say that this protest might not necessarily lead to the policy changes but that they want to all come together and to show solidarity in this movement is that it's that it's the largest immigration rally in twenty years happening just days before the so-called gang of eight is expected to unveil its bipartisan immigration bill a proposal that already missed its march deadline and that the gang of eight might push back once again the reality is that that bill could take months to pass and not everyone has the luxury of time the rule is now the how they are right no immigration. rights no really ok they got to fix and now this is the moment this is the time to sit with an estimated eleven million illegal immigrants are living in the u.s. right now eleven million people asking for a path to become permanent residents the number of illegal immigrants in the u.s.

has increased thirty three percent since two thousand they now make up five percent of the workforce but aren't seventeen thousand dollars less than their legal counterparts were not criminals and we are a hard working class community that we look forward to is to become citizens of this great nation many of the people we met today were themselves illegal immigrants from mexico on though to us any matter what they might like mexico i had was your current legal status. some were dreamers others were children of immigrants all demanding for congress to stop putting reform on the back burner up to support my my family. self and then i have to go to college up to pay for everything pretty sure food books everything over one hundred national and local groups came together to organize the rally for citizenship one of those groups was the school of americas watch they believe that american militarization abroad is a direct cause of mass migration we are fighting to close down the u.s.

army school the americas which has trained thousands of latin american officials in counterinsurgency counter-narcotics and many of these people have gone back to their countries and instilled regimes of terror from dictatorships death squads assassinations rape torture mass displacement and so when we're talking about immigration and securing the borders etc we need to really talk about what's u.s. foreign policy how that's causing people to leave their home but immigration reform extends beyond the hispanic community there's a one point three million undocumented immigrants living in this country gratian out of all the eleven million so we're about ten percent of the total on undocumented population hopefully today's rally will demonstrate america that this is not the same you're going to should this is also american issue in general and also to make the increasing awareness that it is absolutely necessary to pass immigration reform as soon as possible. two years ago a rally like this might have fallen on deaf ears but with a growing minority population that can literally make or break an election these

people believe that lawmakers are finally listening in washington meghan lopez r t . well still ahead here at r t a picture is worth a thousand words but how about six thousand bullets well here in the d.c. area but some real bullets is here on the splay and is an art or a form of political speech that story's next. well a potentially deadly blizzard taking aim for the northeast expected to hit stunning in a few hours from new york to maine we have team coverage of the storm. but we're watching is the very heavy. no moving into boston proper earlier today it was very sticky you can see it start to become much more powdery. and there's still a lot of snow out here a good place for snowball fight. case and it is going to be pretty incredible today there and record snowfall throughout much of it might still be slow to drive

a little submerging see here very exceptional. the same story doesn't make it news. no puff pieces some tough questions.

you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so for like you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm charged welcome to the big picture. and as lawmakers take on gun control the issue has fired off a debate in this country over guns and one college campus not too far from the nation's capital a school bus is there riddled with bullets brought the gun control debate to the campus and r.t. correspondent liz wall has more. in theory just what. both can do thousands of bullets were sprayed out this school bus decimating it inside and out i saw this bus looked like it was ledges in the middle east like it was a pakistan like school bus they got shot up and some sort of attack or something but

this school bus did not come from a war zone it's a work of art most artists use pencils or paint brushes but to make this piece the artist's tools were guns and six thousand rounds of ammunition canadian artist victor medic created this piece entitled incident he finished it months before the mass school shooting in newtown connecticut jump started a new debate on gun control students at george mason university where the bus is being displayed took notice of the timing i thought it was a great timing but after hearing everything that's on the news i was just like this is perfect i mean we think about maybe like yeah gun violence and war and how. people really aren't safe because look all that for some it's personal my mom is also a bus driver so when i was staring into the driver's seat i could see my mom but for others it's offensive reading upon its being art and maybe like

a creative expression i then felt it was insensitive i think it's a little insensitive a little rude. why should people who have to go and have to change the way they do live michael campbell is on george mason shooting team and takes pride in being national champs he believes the exhibit sends the wrong message stuff like this you know it's not good for us you know we're just trying to do a hobby and we have people there trying to shut us down he's among those on campus that don't see the piece as art but an eyesore you see it as a work of art it symbolized something so i guess in that sense it's a work of art in terms of artistic skill being made needed to make it you know whether or not you consider this art as the gun control debate rages in the country the piece is stirring plenty of curiosity and controversy on this college campus and fairfax virginia liz wall party. well as the world turns so does that door that

separates private from public and another politician makes the trip from servicing the people to instead worrying about the bottom line laurie harvest explains more on the rosetta. if you are an american and they're feeling good about your country and our president let me ruin that for you right now because your government and your president are just basically pricks in cahoots with wall street out to take everyone's money and ruin the planet for exactly what reason i don't know they are all really really rich already so i have no idea why they continue to raise the rest of us so hardest anyway here's the lousy story i have for you today it's the

duty obama recently picked a woman named mary jo white to head up the security and exchange commission and our awesome senate just confirmed his choice with overwhelming five partisan support they all deserve the nerve for some reason and think she's a great choice for the job when obama made the announcement he opined in that gosh darn good natured way quote here what a mess with mary jo. chuckles all aroud and the security and exchange commission remember is there to police wall street to keep fraud out of our financial industry and mary jo is going to be at the head of it and obama is pretending that she is just a lady to clean up wall street which is all a big disgusting hoax i knew america because before her new job at

the f.c.c. mary-jo was a partner at the wall street defense firm deborah voigt and clinton she was defending. wall street against the as easy and now she is going from there right to the head of the as these see she was a key figure in one of the most notorious scandals of the as easy when someone is as the c. tried to investigate morgan stanley future c.e.o. john mack the as he guy was fired for trying to do that. you don't want to mess with mary jo all right another kind of hers at the firm was the lawyer and two whose china affiliate is being sued by the f.c.c. for refusing to comply with the subpoena she was also representing j.p. morgan chase and u.b.s. ag both of which have reached multiple settlements was as easy over their fraudulent activities oh and she also gets forty two thousand five

hundred dollars a month forty two thousand dollars a month in retirement plan money for the night from her old firm which continues to represent shady bankers so she has a direct interest in the firm doing well and the firm only does well if the shady banker clients continue to do out that is such a blatant conflict of interest that mary jo decided what she would do would be to take a lump sum payment instead of monthly payments for the next four years while she had the pez the c. but then she goes right back to monthly payments so that's a total joke her husband also has professional ties to shady financial companies including goldman sachs you can't make this stuff up too i don't ranges there is so much conflict of interest it is staggering it is criminal it makes me want to barf and yet here is obama making gosh darn statements about how we rejoin with the

perfect person to be stopped on wall street. when the truth is she has been staunchly defending wall street against the as these feet and has every reason to continue to do what a total pile of garbage what a joke what is shaping up still feeling good about your country and or a president american that i thought tonight let's talk about that by following me on twitter at the resident. pullbacks going to do it for mail for more on these stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash r t america check out our website at r t dot com slash usa and also follow me on twitter at m underscore j underscore how most of us here now have a great night.