housing crisis numerous homeowners found themselves wrongfully foreclosed upon by big banks now the details of a settlement are coming out and it reveals how much these homeowners will be paid is that enough details coming up. the obama administration has claimed that drones only target high ranking members of al qaeda and its allied affiliates but a new report tells a different story we'll explore who is actually being targeted. plus today protesters throughout the nation rise up against the guantanamo bay detention camp they want the facility to be closed and in it to indefinite detention sights and sounds from this national demonstration coming up. it's thursday april eleventh five pm in washington d.c. i'm meghan lopez and you are watching r t well home for owners who were wrongfully foreclosed on are just about to get that big payout that they've been waiting for

a payout that is literally in the tens of dollars in compensation for all of their struggles to fight the big banks and to prove that they were not in fact delinquent on their payments the majority of the homeowners will be compensated just about three hundred dollars the office of the comptroller of the currency announced that it reached a settlement for how to break up these fees after regulators decided that the review process was such a mess that it's time to call it quits here's how the money divides up this chart shows a breakdown of how much each family will be paid for their troubles of the four point two million people affected nearly two point four million will receive about three hundred dollars but even the way that the o.c.c. decided on these categories is up for debate so no less take out look take a look at where the money is actually coming from so the banks that you see here those are thirteen companies that were involved in this case of wrongful foreclosures they include bank of america wells fargo citibank and. just b.c.

among others in total these banks were forced to pay a combined three point six billion dollars in reparations to put that number into perspective for how much that actually puts these companies back financially the estimated quarterly revenue of j.p. morgan chase alone is about twenty five point nine four billion dollars tell me break down the story i was joined earlier by alexis goldstein she's a former v.p. of merrill lynch and deutsche bank she's also a contributor to the nation where she just wrote an article about this issue and she began explaining why she believes that these people are not receiving the compensation that they deserve it's a slap in the face great to hear someone for example who receive what's called a loan modification so that means the bank said ok we're going to work with you we're going to lower your monthly payment and you were still foreclosed on you get between three hundred and five hundred dollars for your troubles and your tragedy and that's about sixty percent of the people who will be receiving money for this so it's just a paltry amount and exploiting put gotten that kind of money into context how much

more these people actually out. well there out you know they were foreclosed on they lost their homes so it depends on the value of their home but we're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars you're talking some stripes being made homeless because of an error that a bank made right these are not people who didn't make their payments there's another line in this report about people who work totally current on their payments they made every single payment they were not in default and they were still foreclosed on those people will only get five thousand dollars in spite of the fact that they lost their home and they're not getting their home back as a part of this settlement fluently and i read these these estimates for how they were broken down actually doesn't talk about the emotional toll that was actually put on these people when they had to move out without cause meanwhile the consultants the the o.c.c. actually hired to review this process they were independent consultants now they received a combined two billion dollars for their efforts right so alexis put this into context for us who are these people and how much do they each individual enormous

so these are groups like prominent tory financial group below eight pricewaterhouse coopers these are consultants who are hired by the banks in spite of the fact that most of these consultants have done prior work for the banks and want to do future work for the big and so there's this conflict of interest rate they don't want to make the banks look bad because they want to get future business from them these consultants were paid on average two hundred fifty dollars an hour spent an average of forty dollars per foreclosure files so they're looking at your foreclosure fiasco they're spending forty hours on it getting paid two hundred fifty dollars an hour they walk away with an average of ten thousand dollars and if you're one of those homeowners who only got three hundred or five hundred bucks you should know that one of these consultants who looked at your tale of tragedy is walking away with ten grand well and let's put it into perspective you did a pretty good job on your tumblr page how much these people were actually what they can actually buy with the money that they will be receiving the majority of them anyway and if we should go ahead and bring up that graphic first up we have

a store. facility you can buy a storage facility for just about two months with three hundred dollars next up use a tent if you are one of the lucky people who actually receive five thousand dollars and you can get this wonderful luxury tents and who needs a house when you can buy a tent exactly you just need to worry about a place where you're actually going to plant that tent and finally we have these pitchforks that you were so kind to her that you can buy just about ten of those so any other examples that you can give us a things that you can buy one thing was that you could buy three hundred boxes of kleenex to dry your tears and you could buy about what hour's worth of legal advice because as a result of getting this settlement they don't give up their right to sue so they could sue but most of these people have any money left and five hundred dollars isn't going to really give them enough money to pay a lawyer to sue to get some more money out of it so alexis let me ask you this is this case closed in this instance i mean obviously there were sleaze that were

going on on the hill today but is this the maximum amount of money that these people actually can on so senator elizabeth warren senator sherrod brown pushed really hard for this there's a lot of contention about how they arrived at this settlement there's some question about how did you figure out what the right magic number was i think probably the case is closed as far as the o.c.c. is concerned but we have a lot of people on the hill like representative maxine waters representative elijah cummings who would like to push the o.c.c. harder and say is this the right number because one of the things i talked about in my report is the o.c.c. told the media that the error rate per bank was about four point two percent meaning and only about four point two percent of cases where there are errors and that was a law they made that up this was something that they just pulled out of state air that was something senator elizabeth warren push really hard on in the hearing today and they will continue to push hard on and so i don't know if the case is closed or not but i certainly think that the o.c.c. is trying to sweep this under the rug and it's up to us to make a bunch of noise about it absolutely alexis goldstein former v.p. of merrill lynch and deutsche bank she's also

a contributor to the nation thank you so much for giving us your insight thanks. having me well ever since the american public began to understand the scope of u.s. drone operations abroad we've begun questioning how often these new avi's are used who they target and where they operate up until this point there have been more questions than there have been actual answers we've essentially been forced to take the obama administration at its word particularly when it comes to who these drones actually target here's how president obama explained to us targets back in september it has to be prepped that is serious and not speculative. it has to be a situation in which we can't capture the individual before they move forward on some sort of operational plot against the united states but copies of top secret u.s. intelligence reports of tainted by mcclatchy newspaper discovered that the scope of drone targets is much larger than top officials and includes low level members as

well and a new york times article over the weekend said that the first u.s. drone strike in pakistan was not actually an attack of al qaeda but instead to kill an enemy of the pakistani government and exchange for access to their air space to break this story down and give us more perspective i was joined earlier by stephen miles he is the coalition coroner for a win without war and i asked him about these reports and what they tell us about the obama administration's claim that only high level al qaeda members are actually targeted. well meaning but first things to highlight is that these reports absolutely indicate they confirm it with a lot of us have long suspected that these attacks are not in fact eliminated to only senior al qaeda operatives and once again does highlight the need for a full accounting full public transparency of the program the american public really does have the right and deserve to know what our government's doing in our name exactly who we're going after and exactly what this program itself and it's not necessarily the fact that they are using drones it's the fact that they are

killing these people that we are not necessarily at war in a war with they're going after the hakani network which is never actually proposed posed an imminent threat to the u.s. interests other then pakistan so how is the killing justified in terms of these low level people first of all how are we finding them do we have that information was in the short answer is no we don't have that information is very complicated issue obviously the u.s. is at war in afghanistan we have tens of thousands of troops there and presumably some of these attacks are related to that but i spent simply a number of these taxes you showed a clip of the president are also related to this larger issue of al qaeda and al qaeda operatives and now we're finding out that a lot of these attacks have to do with pakistani taliban and we have questions about even who else might be involved but the fundamental answers lie in secret government documents that we haven't yet seen and that's about time that the administration releases publicly and as i was mentioning the hakani network among others now the obama administration has come out at numerous times and said we are

targeting al qaida and we are targeting specifically when we say al qaeda affiliates the one place they've actually said was the afghanistan taliban but beyond that we don't really know so who is defining the enemies at this point again we don't we don't fully know you know the president himself in a state of the union said you should not to take my word for it we should have a full public accounting of this and today we haven't had that the administration is scared some of its information with some members of congress who does not share all of its information with any members of congress and it hasn't shared even less with the american public. about time we have a full accounting of that and that will go that will allow us to answer some of these questions and allow us to have the strategic debate that we need to begin to have as well about what are we doing and is it actually making us safer sure and there's no code of conduct up until this point for how drones should be used as i mentioned kind of have to take the obama administration at their word but they're attacking in countries like pakistan and now in northern africa the administration

as well as cia director john brennan have said different things in regards to these public strikes. should we be surprised that they are attacking these low level people and since we don't know the scope of the drugs the only way that we know what the scope of the drones is with these leaks that's right i mean it's a little troubling that with what information we've gotten whether it was the white paper that was out previously that we've talked about or it's these memos that now come out through mcclatchy it's all been information that has not been publicly released by the administration it's hard to know it's impossible to know the scope of the program it's in fact impossible to know what's being done by the cia what's being done by our military and pro and elements like a sock within the military we simply don't know and we can't have a full debate about the merits of the program we can't have a rational debate about the strategic implications of this and the american public has a right to partake in that debate these things are being done in our name and the only way that's going to happen is with a full public accounting now one of the groups that has been fighting for more drawn transparency is obviously

a lawmakers that because of the public outcry the lawmakers actually outright but senator dianne committee chairman of the senate intelligence committee chairwoman dianne feinstein actually said that her group is given all these details shortly after the drone attacks actually happened but is that too late to actually make your opinion up about any of them well it's not even a full of a full answer as well because senator feinstein may be given all the cia drone strike information that would necessarily entail the drone strikes done by other parts of our government and one of the things that we don't know is how much. well there footage out there how much footage you know lead up to the drone strike for example if the drone has been there for twenty four hours recording and the intelligence chip the intelligence committee only sees the five minutes around the drone strike that's the five minutes is out of context that we don't necessarily know the totality you know the one being the center feinstein and others are very interested in this they're trying to do over say their ability to do full oversight is never going to be possible unless the administration is fully open with what it does not just with congress but with the american public are

a steven miles our coalition coordinator with when without war thank you so much for your opinions thanks for having the guantanamo bay hunger strike has been underway for over two months now a report of one hundred sixty six detainees are participating in this hunger strike some of whom are now in critical condition many of these people have been held in detention for over eleven years with no formal trial and no charges it's a protest that started in the facility and has spread to numerous cities on today's day of action r.t. is covering the protests in new york as well as in washington d.c. we'll have a report from you from new york and the eight pm show but r.t. correspondent liz wahl has more from our farm in today's protest in washington d.c. . organizers are calling this a day of action as you can see dozens of protesters are gathered here in front of the white house some of them wearing orange prison jumpsuit made to mimic what the prisoners are wearing at one time obey moments ago they were calling out the names

of some of the prisoners that are stationed there and attempt to humanize them to give them a face to give them a name their message here today is simple to close guantanamo bay and end indefinite detention also to bring attention to the hunger strike that's been happening there for well over two months i spoke to some of the organizers here's what they had to say what i think one hundred hunger strike really underscores the problem with guantanamo instead of ensuring justice for nine eleven it's given us ten years of torture indefinite detention and a kangaroo court it's really time for change enough is enough the members of the media are not allowed to go have been stopped from going that so we're not able to find out exactly what's going on so how could this be a free press when we say you know people access with people a fair trial that is simply not happening well as we reported lawyers say that most of the one hundred sixty six prisoners that are based act they are participating and there's a hunger strike and with each day that passes without food their health is

deteriorating lawyers say some of them are critical condition some of them are being force fed now today is not the first demonstration like this it's been going on for well over a decade since the base opened after nine eleven and protesters say that they're going to continue until president obama keeps his promise and shuts the base down reporting from the white house here liz wall r.t. well it's called the bridge the slammer or the big house if you commit a crime you are expected to do the time and anyone who ends up behind bars shouldn't expect an easy ride shared cells limited entertainment and later time as well as bland food are just a few of the punishments and that inmates experience while they're behind bars but as arctic correspondent margaret house shows us it's not. a hard knock life for all . just what isn't for sale these days well a closer look at prisons in america we found out that an inmate can pay to get a better room while incarcerated now pay to stay upgrades in jail are nothing new

but may not be widely known for those of us on this side of the law it was a holding cell like this one that bernie made off most likely would have been held and called an intake cell every prisoner from a pickpocket or to someone who commits the crime of the century will be taken and take for processing. the cells themselves they actually look at tema dating but with no bars a small toilet a metal slab to sit or lay on and a food opening through the door where all staples of this facility or are there are exceptions can prisoners buy a better room in prison perhaps avoiding the unpleasant infectious diseases and random violence associated with end mates and the general population for a closer look i went to the detention facility in my area to see what kind of upgrades are available in prison so i'm standing here in the arlington detention facility where inmates are actually brought and the cells for process works learning the idea that you can actually say to upgrade a prison cell the jailer here says not in his jail we're not convinced that it

doesn't have a so the jailer said and mates who stay in his jail are picture every offense imaginable from the minor to the hard core the prisoners were walking around freely in designated areas just steps away from their cells well jennifer steinhauer of the new york times she wrote a feature article about this phenomenon back in two thousand and seven she said anyone convicted of a crime knows a debt to society often must be paid in jail but a slice of californians who are willing to supplement the debt with cash no personal checks please are finding their time to be most bearable for other offenders whose crimes are usually relatively minor carjacker should not bother and whose bank accounts remain lofty a dozen or so city jails. state offer pay to stay upgrades and according to u.c.l.a. walk professor kim buchanan you can still pay to upgrade a prison cell she wrote any detainee who wants to be protected against such danger

and some of them are approximately fifteen municipalities in los angeles in orange county's offer pay to stay accommodation in police lockups or municipal jails where inmates can pay seventy five to one hundred seventy five per night to serve their time in a safer environment away from the chaotic county jails one thing is apparent there is a two tiered jail system in the us those who can afford the private room and the overwhelming majority will stay in the general population for those facing a debt to society here in the us jail system a little cash will let you pad your cell while you're paying it in washington margaret howell r.t. . still ahead on our team looks like a digital television service is making big broadcast companies quite quick with rage we'll tell you how the service feature average home and tena plus an update from the world of cyber security the tech is next. pretty down the feel good blog find it here if you're looking for relevant stories

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welcome back it's thursday and that means it's tech talk time my guest today is derek on a he's a visiting fellow at the yale law information society project first topic of a new program called area oh this is a digital television service that claims it allows users to stream all cable channels to all homes without the have a web connection without an actual broadcast television subscription here's how it works. anyone can watch live broadcast t.v. for free off the air with an antenna dario's take a minute and unbelievably small small enough that hundreds of thousands you can see . where you can access them from the internet and watch live broadcast t.v. and city so they can choose the t.v. you want. you can even record that my t.v. you played back with a d.v.r. without the box this program has the potential to reconfigure the television

viewing experience as we know it and the four major networks are taking notice why well because they are getting currently what they call retransmission fees on top of their normal fees that they charge their costumers now if this program works the television waves and all the money that go along with it could start flowing toward aereo instead of toward those networks so is this the end to television as we know it derek what do you think absolutely not i think that this is what they call the industry of disruptive innovation something that comes along everyone still while really throws technology head and that's what it's doing it is helping consumers it's leading to greater innovation the market. what happened here is that the broadcast stations fox and a.b.c. and n.b.c. that you can get for free over the airwaves they want to charge money to cable providers and satellite providers to use those channels and they actually charge quite a large amount of money and so what area was able to do is utilize a interesting legal reading to kind of circumvent that to provide for customers for

less than ten dollars a month a limited network television in the d.v.r. service that many customers are flocking to in new york where it's available sure now can you explain a little bit more about why these companies are so threatened and how they're actually reacting and thinking about ways to get around this sure so fox recently said if this ruling was to stand that they may get out of the broadcast industry altogether. my response to the technology guy is that would be true for. these companies are basically wasting the spectrum it's extremely valuable so i think it's an idle threat ten percent of the american people receive their programming through broadcast i don't think that they're going to give up these. their valuable spectrum of something's going to happen ten percent meaning about fifty thousand fifty million people now this has failed these networks brought up this case in both a lower court as well as in the u.s. district court and they failed because they couldn't prove that a copyright infringement can you explain that a little bit more sure so it gets

a little bit of the weeds here but put simply if they were able in their warehouse to have a good intent for each customer so if they have fifty thousand customers then they have fifty thousand in ten of those and they're all kind of in the same location so each customer has their own little box and as a result you're basically just outsourcing your and through them which means that just as if you have an intended d.v.r. you're not going to pay anybody for that service you're going to pay n.b.c. or fox for that service they should have to pay for and that was what the second circuit held in their decision recently however the ninth circuit in a similar technology called aereo killer they held the other way so it's still it's still up for the courts to decide exactly how this is all going to shake up and we know that this is now moving into capitol hill as well and that they might actually be deciding a lot of this as well but let me ask you very quickly how is this any different

from hulu or netflix or amazon or apple television or how is it different sure so you know hulu and apple television all the rest of the. net flix and those guys are negotiating with fox and with n.b.c. for their content and coming out with a contract between the two areas just recording the broadcast over the airwaves so there is no contract there which is why they're able to provide it so cheaply for customers or at let's switch topics like short notice but now now the house intelligence committee on. overwhelmingly approved an updated version of the system bell on wednesday the bill is now headed for a full house vote next week now this newer version of the bill does a lot of things can you start breaking them down for us sure so the main point of information sharing so companies can share information about their customers and perceive ongoing threats on their networks with one another and also with the government and the privacy groups are very worried about this because the provisions as far as producing private information what they call personally

identifiable information for short those provisions are very they're not very well written and so you're having a lot of personally identifiable information potentially given to other companies or even given to the government and there's no liability there for the companies so the incentive is for them to be sharing more information but at the same time they've kind of they've dropped the so-called national security provisions they've broaden the definition of cybersecurity they're requiring the government to remove personal information from shared data so in some ways is it moving toward kind of the center and to some of those privacy advocates concerns or not i mean it hasn't the concerns of any of the privacy organizations most of the language that says that you should reduce the personally personal information says that you should not that you have to or there's a penalty to not doing so and so the onus is on actors to reduce the personally

identifiable information on their own now all the tech companies that you would ask on this issue are either against the issue or were indifferent on the issue so about thirty thousand websites have come out against this bill companies like facebook and have said some issues with the privacy of microsoft which was an initial supporter has started back off of their initial support so the real tech experts in the industry have not been the full throated supporters that you would expect which leads us to believe these privacy issues are more serious than they appear sure's. something in the underbelly of these bills that we just don't understand fully because we're not the ones that are in there writing creating them but finally let's talk about this plane that was allegedly hacked now a researcher in germany says that he knows how to successfully hack an airplane system and no longer requires guns in order to hijack a plane you can do it with a computer so obviously hacking this airplane over writing a pilot is a huge technological accomplishment but is it also a justification for cispa i don't think so i think this is

a clear vulnerability we've seen this with airplanes but also with you a viz g.p.s. jamming for example but that's different because people are in that if they if they just do a draw on it's just a machine this is people that are in the air currently sure but i mean there's been no demonstration that system is actually going to lead to greater cyber security or deal with these type of problems in the hearings have been held behind closed doors the intel committee held a closed hearing so we need to be presented with the evidence on why you are personally identifiable information should be given to the government the government you have to demonstrate that we should just assume that they should have this information and we only have about thirty seconds left but can you explain to us how this is going to affect our day to day lives what we notice it affecting our day to day lives if this goes through i think the jury's still out we're going to see exactly how some of the privacy things are implemented it's unclear if the senate's going to pass this legislation so we'll find out right there kind of as an fellow at the yale law information society project thank you so much for joining us

and breaking that all down for us. and now to finish the show off right we're going to take a trip over to southern australia with google maps we're going to take a turn first down duke's highway you feel the warm breeze through your hair taken the majestic scenery without leaving the comfort of your home but wait a minute was that on the right it seems that google has another moment of device to hide the couple contours now selectively concealed with this blur but they weren't going to pass up the opportunity for international stardom when they saw the google street view car coming this enthusiastic pair pulled over jumped out of the car with beverage in hand and then the oh let's just say they chose a carefully position chosen position and wait a minute let's just let's take that down i'm not sure that that's a route for kids to see but google street view you can definitely have met your match with this couple i wonder what else these cameras caught without anyone noticing i guess it just shows that they know how to have

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