obviously the cypriot government was the last to know that the i.m.f. had taken their gold then they said wait a minute no that never happened then they got the phone call saying wait but we did take your gold then they came out with it oh i think they did take our gold but of course that's what they want the gold price itself was down on the news that there's going to be a seller in the market meanwhile chinese gold buyers are frantically on the phone will take it will take it so it's a great day for china yeah well gold plunged one point six five percent then the news came out that they had denied it and then you saw a tweet from market watch gold rebounds a day after a nearly two percent tumble and then the government of cyprus came out and said yes we have a draft member we just haven't told our central bank yet that where we just sell our gold oh as confucius said i.m.f. stupid gold we buy. now the other interesting thing about this when this news emerged is that they said the reason why the gold market

sold off is that people investors took this as a sign that this would be the template the cypriot template for the rest of europe that other eurozone nations and they mention italy in particular would have to give up their gold and italy we now has a lot of gold well that's right in the euro zone there are twelve thousand tons of gold america supposedly has a thousand tons of gold but as the confiscation of wealth begins in earnest and you have the breakdown of currencies and the bubble in the bond market the bubble in the stock market reaches its apex then as we've been saying all roads lead back to some form of gold slash bitcoin global currency standard and the other thing that i've seen about when the cyprus selling their gold part of this is about the bailout documents with the troika and they also imagine that they're going to earn six hundred million euros from increasing the corporate tax rate how are you going to increase the corporate tax rate what corporation is going to remain in that country this is over the next three years. right well when you have people who live

in the world of academia put out white paper suggesting that they can raise taxes on corporations in a country that's now bankrupt and somehow raise enough money to pay off the debt that's what happens you need actual people on the ground who are doing business not academics who are cranking out white papers who have never had a real job in life ben bernanke has never had an actual job in his life paul krugman has not actually ever had an actual job in his life they're just put out same documents and if it doesn't work out they'll do just blame some god of insanity well let's look at this you know you bring up these academics the old lady's staff gamers and gold bugs the old lady of course is the late old lady of threadneedle street and that's the bank of england and the bank of england employees spend their work time playing online games planning trips to expensive shops and working out how to buy gold according to data obtained by the capitalist newspaper here and what they found is of the top five hundred sites one of the most

frequented is the s.p.d. our gold shares company a company that promises an innovative relatively cost efficient and secure way to access the gold markets at the time of going to press they say max the capitalist could not confirm whether this pointed towards future monetary policy well a lot of people who worked in slaughterhouses become vegetarians and people who work at the bank of england who say what they do at the bank of england just trashing the pound trashing currency making extraordinary only lopsided bets in favor of an entrenched aristocracy they go out and start buying gold and you also brought up ben bernanke he's in the news in the headlines this week by accident fed gives early data to banks the federal reserve alerted bank officials on tuesday that policymakers were considering a shift a when to begin easing back on stimulus efforts a day before the news was released publicly but it didn't. sisted there was no

evidence traders on wall street had benefited from what it was called an error and the banks were citibank j.p. morgan goldman sachs wells fargo u.b.s. b.m.p. perry and h.s.b.c. well every month the federal reserve bank prints eighty five billion dollars in cash and that money is front run in other words people are buying stocks and bonds they know that this cash is coming and you have these rallies in stocks and bonds based on the artificial stimulation of simply printing money on top of that gaming that system they are also issuing data head of the official release for insider trading as if it wasn't easy enough to make money simply front running all the money that the present that the fed is printing they want to sweeten the pot by actually giving them insider information that they can trade on and of course congress in washington it's not illegal to trade on inside information is completely legal to take inside information call your broker and make money on that

answer information it's something it's a law of carved out just for congress that they're allowed to do that so admit it makes a mockery and i think that when i hear monday when i see people protesting and out in the streets and singing the wicked witch is dead referring to margaret thatcher and the death of neo liberalism in the death of her policies that corrupted and destroyed this country i see that as the opening salvo of a greater social unrest and hopefully a revolution in this country anyway so but the fed is the single point of failure as are these people who hold in the central data the central information that controls the perception of our global economy and this brings us to the final section here about bitcoin we're actually going to talk a lot about it in the next episode because we prerecorded an interview with tony gillespie a bit pay the day that the market crash at mt gox but before that i want to talk about the bigger picture of this and that is tech crunch unfazed by bitcoins wild swings and mysterious origins silica. valley v.c.

place their bets it's far from certain that bitcoin is going to be a big deal said lightspeed venture partners jeremy lu has made two investments in the space but the potential for disruption is enormous if bitcoin realizes its full potential you're talking about disrupting visa first data master card a lot of banks western union these are huge multibillion dollar companies it's far from certain but if it happens a lot of value will be destroyed and a lot of value will be created that's when venture capitalists should be looking right at me a bit coin you have to compare to bit torrent bit torrent made piracy so-called of intellectual property like music and films a reality for millions totally transformed that industry to the point now where the makers of game of thrones have said that we welcome the pirates pirating game of thrones it's our marketing strategy and we haven't stopped making money so they finally got the religion they got it chris dodd to. stop killing kids like

guarantors meanwhile on bit coy similarly mastercard wall street will have their come to bit christ moment and they'll say you know what this is not a bad thing it's a good thing but by then the price will be well over a thousand dollars per bitcoin i personally don't like to talk about the price i think you know people are obsessed with it out there people are obsessed with not the function of a house to live in you know bathe in there and take and keep warm they're obsessed with the prices this is something that we see all over london but visible mr carden public are trying to companies with multi hundred billion dollars valuations they used to lobby washington change laws in their favor therefore the price is important for big going to get the market cap up sufficiently so we can have our own lobbyist go to washington make our own laws so we can push these renegades and terrorists out of the way for a bit coin reality in a big going society that's why it's important to get the price up people by the price are involved in a live rush to live and rush out there you should have been coined in your portfolio. so well let's talk about the bigger idea again back to what i like is

the notion of a payment system as big investors to merge bitcoin gets ready for its close up. this is the winklevoss twins have invested they own one percent of bitcoin apparently and cameron winklevoss says people say it's a ponzi scheme it's a bubble people really don't want to take it seriously at some point that narrative will shift to virtual currencies are here to stay or in the early days now max you have a patent on virtual currencies and this is what we're going to talk about the next episode because we have heard that the people who now own that patent are actually using that patent to create a better more efficient market making technology system on bitcoin well potentially cantor fitzgerald who owns my market making technology for virtual securities with virtual currency are rumored now to be getting into the space but that could be a negative because corporations and banks use patent law just for innovation and to

kill industries so first you know which is already been exposed as a bad actor we don't why actually want them in the space and i hope that we'll be able to defeat them and then finally on this chris dixon a partner anderson horowitz an investor in the tax base says why he's investing in big coin is that there are three arrows of currency commodity based example gold politically based example dollar amount based example coins so he's investing as a sort of regime change currency that we go from you know epics you know big time periods of gold commodity based currencies for thousands of years for the last forty years we've been in a fee out based system and he sees this as an emergence of mass backed currency you know like a term regime change and that's executive good point is us bring in a regime change just like saddam hussein got hung so will the u.s. dollar stays you never thank so much for being on the go to report thank you max all right stay. till the second half i'll be talking to james stark of gold money

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all right welcome back to the kaiser report imax guys it's time now to turn to james turk of gold money dot com james welcome back to the kaiser report thanks max so it's great to be with you so much is happening james i a lot to cover i wanted to just jump right in and i read a headline i thought immediately of you portugal will begin paying the public workers with treasury bills instead of cash this sounds like an alarm bell your thoughts it definitely is an alarm bell you know there's a saying from an american philosopher if you ignore history you end reliving it and what portugal is doing is what happened in america after the war of independence instead of actually paying bills they issued little pieces of paper and those little pieces of paper circulated discourtesy they're called bills of credit because the result was so bad the currency at the time the continental which was the first currency in america hyperinflated they put it in the constitution that you can't issue bills of credit portugal is trying to issue bills for credit they

call it you know treasury bills but it's essentially the same thing ok let's jump over to cyprus ok cyprus there they're taking money out of people's bank accounts we saw out of the m.f. global united states all the more of the institutional side kind of went over the people's heads they weren't paying much attention to and now the government just taking money out of people's bank accounts or thought yeah yeah it was a shocker for me in the sense that they were first. talking about going even after the insured deposits and then they backtracked from that very very quickly but i think there are a couple lessons that you know we can we can take from it i think the first is that they just don't have the money to do a bailout you know i think the central bankers in the central planners of this world realize that the problems are just too big that they can't just create more bailouts because the money isn't there and i think the second thing we can take away from it is that there's a black hole on the balance sheet of the banks of the banking system the liabilities are much greater than the amount of assets and have to fill that black

hole and they've been doing that with with bailouts but i think the point of cyprus is that there are a lot of other banks around the world that have this black hole on their balance sheet and you know i've always been calling cyprus not a euro crisis it's a banking crisis and i think this banking crisis is going to spread to other countries and it's not only could a crisis that insolvency crisis exactly and banks look like they're solvent because they're liquid until overnight the liquidity dries up for whatever reasons in the case of cyprus the e.c.b. so they're not going to lend more money and the insolvency became quite clear so you know that's the nature of bank failures they look good until they actually fail which is an overnight event where you look at the whole euro zone up until recently there has been this idea that they could create these master funding. platforms to roll the debt forward extend and pretend they came up with the various acronyms for various funds and of course all these funds are a backstop by the e.c.b. which is essentially the old deutsche bank they know bank of germany essentially but in

a cyprus situation like germany finally came out and said you know no if we go we don't we're not going to drawing the line there so it seems like the euro project which was supposedly bringing harmony and they won the recent peace prize for the all the harmony of the euro project suddenly there's acrimony in germany seem to be playing it's a very traditional role the air of squaring off against everybody else is germany as a sense of these close the credit spigots and that is going to let these. companies waste away well you know it's a good point maybe this was set up to enable germany to have an excuse to withdraw from the euro and create a northern euro with itself holland maybe slovakia finland in one or two other countries that's a possibility but i think you know what they're trying to do or what they tried to do with quantitative easing and all this money printing is hope that by putting this money into the economy that the economy would get jumpstarted in the problems would disappear but i think the recognizing now that all of the money printing in the world has not solved the unemployment problem got the economy moving and those problems are getting bigger and bigger as the economy continues to deteriorate and

so i think they're really now in crunch time and they're starting to recognize the reality of the situation that these remedies that they've been trying haven't worked i mean i know you're friends with another frequent guest on our show james records and he talks about the currency collapses around the world kind of going in a certain order based on vulnerabilities and i think clearly japan is a precarious situation southie could just talk a little bit about what's happening in japan and the and the policies and then is he correct and do you agree that the next currency a could be the british pound but first dmn you know what's happening in japan is just unbelievable you know on a per capita basis they've been doing quite well compared to europe and even to the united states you know they say that the flesh in is bad but deflation really isn't bad because it basically means that your purchasing power of the money is worth more in the future than the distant a so you're actually increasing your purchasing

power in a deflationary environment the the new prime minister wants to change that and the central bank governors are following that policy and they literally opened up the printing presses in the end which was seventy seven last year to the dollar is now approaching one hundred to the dollar that shows you how badly the yen is weakened and everybody expecting a huge inflationary result and perhaps i put a result. what we are seeing worldwide is a horse race between the currencies you know the in the euro the dollar and the british pound it's a question of which one collapses first and right now the yen is leading and it could well be that the pound might be next but i'll tell you it's a close horse races to which one it will be you mentioned deflation and of course that brings me to the new kid on the block bitcoin which you know one of the criticisms of hair in some portions of the press is that is bad because it's there's a fixed rate is going to be twenty one million therefore that's going to be deflationary

at some point and that's bad but if you're an inherent to let's say the austrian school of economics where you're talking about gold as a currency or gold as money it's naturally has a somewhat fixed rate of supplies well so i would imagine that bitcoin from an austrian perspective we're going to get a bit philosophical here it seems to play into the austrian mindset however within the austrian school there are people who are expressed very negative thoughts on bitcoin james turk the man tell us your opinion or you put me into a big country or yeah you can play the middle of this sorted out well you know the austrians have a prop some austrian school people have a problem with that because it doesn't tie neatly into the regression theorem which ok which is which is basically that money has to have some tangible substance some other use besides its use as a means of account and a kind of goes back to barter exactly he's a good back tomorrow and how money eventually evolved in gold and silver became the most liquid form of commodity and therefore they had

a monetary role right so i'd rather use as usual history and you're saying well was barter and then that a substitute for barter but has a value and that value is worth the value of the barter and that's that but they don't like it because it doesn't express that yeah but in my mind what's more the most important contribution of the austrian school is that value is subjective every individual sees a particular object or even an intent to pull out. correct and can view it differently than another person and i think that's really what the underlying value argument is for bitcoin that because value is subjective and everybody sees it differently some people might value that more highly than other people and coin does have advantages and disadvantages just like everything else in this world nothing is perfect but it does have some unique advantages in the sense that it cannot be confiscated firstly you know in the twentieth century you know gold was confiscated by lenin weaselling the hitler and roosevelt you know why did they do that they tried to increase the power of the state by getting control of the money

in the printing press because it prevents that so in that sense bitcoin is an important consideration and i think it is a step forward in terms of monetary development and we have to look at it seriously we've actually been studying it for a few months to see more to get the idea to study it expects. i don't get credit for the stuff and i make a rectifier there right now anyway but using this mining metaphor as it relates to gold people understand there's a limit about a gold you got to go mine it and as you might it gets more expensive you know as in south africa is so far deep down in the mines that they're almost touching the lava it's very hot down there running out of gold the peak gold some of those mines have to be air conditioned because they're so hot because they're so deep that's expensive cosco whoever created bit quiet and nobody really knows who this chap is or what it's actually a group of individuals they obviously understood gold in the understood you know mining and all of the but all of that's in gold mining in the some of the documents that we do have available from the creator they mention gold mining they mention

that they are completely unhappy with the car banks are run but the way that this algorithm works is you're digging into a mine if you will of primary numbers correct increasingly more difficult to extract with the distributed network of computers so that in itself in a world that we live in digital and in the world of cryptology in a world of surveillance can't you say that there's a scarcity value that that has intrinsic value unto itself above and. on the utility value they just described well i'm not a mathematician but then again i'm not a miner either but you know i understand that gold has value and i see that you know because it has value to people who understand mathematics so instead of mining it to geology or money into mathematics that i think you know the logic of it makes sense and also you know given the fact that there are advantages to bitcoin like it cannot be confiscated it's a very good on line currency and many many respects i think it does have some unique advantages that the need for the can further study i was speaking of austrians i saw the little rockwell site who is

a noted libertarian and arco capitalist an austrian school fellow he had a speech up on his site and i actually like the piece because he was the writer was saying that people should be prepared for an attack on that calling because it challenges the state the challenges the banks the banks can't continue their rent seeking ways in their currency ways their fractional banking ways and right are saying prepare yourself for this attack but my question is do you think that the fact because represents a threat to these guys you rub elbows with these guys james are they one of the what it tells what are they saying are they run are they getting a little concerned perhaps but what can you do about it you know it's been put out there and you say it was evil laugh ha ha ha ha not evil at all it's like i say it's you know but quinn has advantages and it is a reality you know maybe they're going to fight it as it gets bigger and as it becomes more popular i hope they don't because i'm in favor of you know what

individuals choose what currencies they want to use them you know this is ron paul's point you know the freedom of choice in terms of currencies which goes back to you know. in history nationalization of money national money compete against free market money and see whatever people want to use and let them be free to choose you know after all that's how we humans progress you know when we interact with one another we you know i'm so. it's invisible hand we both end up benefiting from it so you have this go back to you know basic classic economic principles and let every currency compete against one another while competition breeds growth versus central planning which kind of greed you know more stagnation i think that's a fair statement i've always said that i mean i can debate people on that point but i want to back to this idea we have about a minute or so left the big trend of the day is this confiscation now in cyprus they've just taken the money out of a bank accounts with m.f. global jamie diamond j.p. morgan they did it on the institutional level essentially stole a billion dollars jamie dimon just said look i'm

a gangster he can't do anything about it now there is another form of confiscation though which we see in the u.s. and in the u.k. it's called quantitative easing right in my wrong to say that talking about you are just confiscation because you're taking wealth you're taking purchasing power away from individuals who hold those currencies you know if you put one hundred pounds or one hundred dollars in a bank account on january one at the end of the year you might have one hundred one dollars or one hundred one pounds but your purchasing power is only like ninety five or maybe even a little bit less involved in the company in france because in the u.k. . interest rates are forced down through quantitative easing right as a result the interest on things like mortgages are less so people end up paying seventy billion pounds less in interest income last year however people with money in the bank who would get interest on that were on that on that money in savings lost two hundred twenty billion if you hounds you're destroying capital you're just roaring capital you're shifting money from people who worked hard and saved to speculate. enabling that you're shifting it to debtors debt is not necessarily bad

but the point is that has to be serviced by harder and capital you can't destroy the depositors because if you do that you're destroying capitalism and that just completely wrecks our economy all right well we're out of time but i don't want to mention before we go that you also have gold money news as a channel on youtube and there's a lot of excellent interviews on there now i haven't i just checked in with him again after six months and you've got lots of great stuff you've got a team down in cyprus they've got man on the street interviews down there and it's really built up quite a resource so i would direct people to that is it going wild that it is going well that cyprus interview is very popular really shows what's happening you know how the bankers pounded cyprus back to the stone age literally but there's also one that you know you and i did a year or so ago called money inflation and fronts and i highly recommend you know tuning into that one is also because they asked and yet it was the same thing as monetizing debt and the revolution quickly came after that exactly there's

a lot of information from that that video that applies to today so i recommend taking a look at that when it's a classic video it's last minute all right thanks to our thanks so much for being on the kaiser bank with max all right that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy herbert and with my guest james turk of gold money dot com if you'd like to send us an e-mail please do so at kaiser report at r t t v dot are you guys are saying bye go. into no silence. does it. every day is a struggle. for our children sleep soundly at night. we

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