him in the stomach and i've seen the bruises on him from this process this is happening to him all the time right now because they have a process where anything he asks for they went just give it to him they send have seen a team and said he wants a bottle of water they send the goods in if he wants his medicine and they send the gains and what he told me last i talked to him because it's just not asking for his medication anymore because he doesn't want to get beat not to get it that is he'd never been to guantanamo bay i've seen very little information about what goes on inside that what is it actually like inside the detention camp the scene the breezes will sit in that place well i've spent my whole life representing people on death row so i've been to most of the death row of the southern states of america. kuantan know for all the norms that the military puts out about it is worse than any other. country different but first you go to the physical treatment of the

prisoners there's no prisoner prizm nights in states where you could meet a prisoner up and not get sued into the next millennium so it's worse because no one controls the military. but on another level it's fog with and that psychologically. the military go to upset us way back when when we called it the guantanamo do that because they didn't like the echoes of the soviet union in the old days so to take that analogy a bit further which i think is totally fair i don't think it was a given that in soviet russia where fifty two percent of the prisoners had been told that they were cleared for release that they couldn't go i mean is that sort of torture that's with and anything you hear in other places eighty six out of one hundred sixty six prisoners have been told that cleared but they can't go shack was told he was cleared in two thousand and seven by bush two thousand and nine by obama he's still that and there is no legitimate reason why he can't come back to

london tomorrow when we talk about him being cleared for release i understand there's new information that's come to light recently and that the foreign secretary william hague well please tell us what he said what the new information that just came to light is new dissent from ation which is william hague the british foreign secretary wrote to me saying that he had been told by the americans that shachar is the only kid to go to saudi arabia not to britain well that's total drivel there's no other prison and i know of out of one hundred sixty six people in guantanamo and they've been cleared to go to one place shaq has never been told he's only a kid to go to one place he's been given two notices neither of which say that now there's a reason for it and the reason is they want to get him and the people who want to gag him is not just the united states the u.s. wants him to go to saudi arabia on the premise that the saudis will keep him banged up forever he won't be able to talk to the media and he won't talk to anyone so

certainly the u.s. would like to keep shaq aquatics because of everything he's seen and everything that's happened to him but i'm very much afraid that it's also the british intelligence services who want to keep him quiet because they know that schacher is a witness against them going back to bag ram air force base. in january two thousand and two schachter was that the british saw him legally complicit in his torture there but also shop saw they've been shaken libby being tortured and this is the most. embarrassing example of torture the americans had the last thing that the british or americans want to come out of guantanamo bay schachter on who can shed some light on the torture that led to that catastrophic mistake what is it that sucker element is that of the detainees i know exactly what he knows because he's told me he was in that ground he was one of the first five

prisoners held by the americans and background and he was taken there just before new year two thousand and one and libby had just been taken in the americans at the time thought he was a big time al qaeda person which he was and he was never a member of al qaida so the americans were abusing him to try to get him to make statements shakha was taken from the cage where he was being held in background into the room where libby was being abused he saw the people who did that you can identify some of those people the british were present and. at that time and he can tell you a whole lot about what was going on in terms of the abuse of velvety now libby can't speak for himself because he was sent back to libya where he according to the libyans gadhafi died or according to other people was murdered so one extraordinarily embarrassing witnesses disappeared and shakhtar is one of the few people who remain i'd just like to read to. his own testimony that he wrote

recently these adults how is an adult yes i can see the light well over one hundred prisoners a striking in solidarity we're not going to take it anymore and he does that. while it's really begun with the koran being disrespected but it is now much more than that. they've been hunger strikes before what do you feel this time is different this time is different for two reasons one is that there's many many more people on hunger strike and the thing that gives shaq a hope is he feels that the result of. the prisoners that he hasn't seen for a long time in that prison. but there's another reason it's very different and that's that the americans response is just bob baer and that's not having the desired effect the council in charge thinks that he can beat people into submission but these are guys who have suffered for eleven years and there is nothing this can throughout them that they haven't seen before so they're just not going to put up

with that now what you've got to really worry about is that it's going to be different in another way which is that people are going to die and that's what i'm most concerned about not just shack a bit i've got fifteen plants down that still and i'm very concerned that more than one of them will end up getting out of guantanamo in a coffin i think that's a realistic possibility i think shaq you could die just because of his physical ailments i mean this is a guy who's told me before that he's slowly falling apart slowly done in a step by step that he wouldn't have to go on hunger strike for me to worry about him because the litany of his physical ailments is a page long and he's not getting proper treatment for any of them so he and other people could very well died people have died and in guantanamo this hunger strike makes it exponentially more likely again partly because the americans don't know what's going on they think some of my guys aren't on the list right when i know

they are and that really worries me that not keeping close tabs on people's physical well being how is it possible that a day that some people are hunger strike when they actually are the same way that they think a fourteen year old child is a big time terrorist member of london cell of al-qaeda when had never been to britain and. other times it's because they just don't have good intelligence about almost anything if you think about this was a guy called mohammed ali gorani who i represented and you think they couldn't work out how old he was eight years of interrogations that gives you some insights on how limited then knowledge about everything is on that base and so just to give you one example i know one of my clients is accepting liquid supplement and sure not from self but one of his mates who has been really really ill and he's forcing this guy that take it because he doesn't want his friend to die now the americans think

mike liking that but he's not so there's just so many things that the u.s. doesn't know and they don't know because they're not treating these people as humans if they treated the prisoners with respect to the prisoners would treat them with respect for what you seem yourself what evidence do you have that people are actually dying inside and said well i've seen people's physical status i've made shaq strip off for me so i can see some of his physical ailments i've done that with other prisoners i've watched shakin with a tube up his nose when he was being force fed and i watched him pull that chub out and you know the u.s. general made a comment in public is not nice and it where he said he was going to make it less convenient for the prisoners by pulling that tube out every time they fed meaning you have one hundred twenty centimeters long tube stuffed up unit. and then pulled out after each feeding now that's just barbaric it's illegal for them in the first place to force feed prisoners but to do it in that way just compounds the problem

and they're doing it to try to force prisoners to give up their hunger strike that's just serious or wrong and what i'm afraid the military authorities don't seem to understand is these guys have suffered enough to just not going to take. being abused into submission again so you know we i want both sides to be reasonable i don't want my clients to die and i don't want the military to the bad when they do whatever and survive but they want to do this in a way of resolving this can balance it mentality that we see going on between the guards and the detainees there's no way to get around the confrontation between the military and the prisoners unless the military is willing to be less confrontational i mean you don't run prisoners prisons by beating people up in any sensible person i've dealt with prisons my whole life and any sensible would never person tries to reach accommodation treats people decently treats them like human

beings and then get that and response but as long as the u.s. thinks they can just be used people this if they were abusing a three year old then what do you expect when you told us about the evidence of m i six involvement well first we have to recognize that taking any prisoner to guantanamo was a serious breach of the geneva conventions a war crime so the british should never have had anything to do with one time i've been the first person but did the course they did they were sending agents just a background check was held then to canada was held again. and then to guantanamo where all the prisoners were and they were interrogating people that that. they were providing information misinformation and check his case to the americans that was then used to maintain this detention without trial all of this is criminal offense all of this ultimately if i have my way they're going to end up facing the

international criminal court which is certainly what i got my sights if the british police don't do it lies that that's the thank you very much for joining us today ok . you know how sometimes you see a story and it seems so for life you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize that everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture. choose your language. of holy week you know in federal court today still some of the. choose the news the consensus you can. choose the

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