in force. and what that is when a prisoner doesn't do exactly what they're told the six being dressed up you notice if they're in their outfits come and basically be to not to make them do it the pen into the floor and check to describe how this one guy who's three hundred pounds he sits on and sometimes needs him in the stomach and i've seen the bruises on him from this process this is happening to him all the time right now because they have a process where anything he asks for they won't just give it to him they send a scene eighteen so if he wants a bottle of water they send the goods and if he wants his medicine they send their kids and what he told me last i talked to him this is just not asking for his medication anymore because he doesn't want to get beaten up to get it that is it has of being to guantanamo bay i've seen very little information about what goes on inside that what is it actually like inside the detention camp the scene the breezes will sit in that place well i've spent my whole life representing people on

death row so i've been to most of the death rows of those it's a very. one tunnel no for all the homes that the military puts out about it is worse than any other. country different but first you go up to the physical treatment of the prisoners there's no prisoner prizm nights in states where you could be into prison or up and not get sued into the next millennium so it's worse because no one controls the military. but on another level it's fog with and that psychologically. the military go to upset at us way back when when we called it the guantanamo do that because they didn't like the echoes of the soviet union in the old days so to take that analogy a bit further which i think started i don't think it was a given that in soviet russia where fifty two percent of the prisoners had been told that they were cleared for release but they couldn't go i mean is that sort of

torture that is within anything here in other places so eighty six out of one hundred sixty six prisoners a bill that they can't go shack of is told he was treated in two thousand and seven by bush two thousand and nine by obama he's still there and there is no legitimate reason why he can't come back to london tomorrow when we talk about him being cleared for release i understand there's new information that's come to light recently and that the foreign secretary william hague well please tell us what he said what the new information that just came to light is new dissent from ation which is william hague the british foreign secretary wrote to me saying that he had been told by the americans that shachar is the only kid to go to saudi arabia not to britain well that's total drivel there's no other person i know of out of one hundred sixty six people in guantanamo and they've been cleared to go to one place shaq has never been told he's only kid to go to one place he's been given two

notices neither of which say that now there's a reason for it and the reason is they want to gag him and the people who want to gag him is not to the united states the you don't seem to go to saudi arabia on the premise that the saudis will keep them banged up forever he won't be able to talk to the media and he won't talk to anyone so certainly the u.s. would like to keep shaq aquatics because of everything he's seen and everything that's happened to him but i'm very much afraid that it's all sort of intelligence services who want to keep him quiet because they know that schacher is a witness against them going back to baghdad and therefore space in january two thousand and two schachter was that the british saw him. legally complicit in his torture that but also shakha saw they've been shaken libby being tortured and this is the most. embarrassing example of torture that americans had so the last thing that the british or americans want to come out of guantanamo bay shack

around who can shed some light on the torture that that catastrophic mistake what is it is that other detainees i know exactly what he knows because he's told me he was in that ground he was one of the first five prisoners held by the americans and background and he was taken there just before noon two thousand and one and libya had just been taken and the americans at the time thought he was a big time al-qaeda person which he was and he was never a member of al qaida so the americans were abusing him to try to get him to make statements shakar was taken from the cage where he was being held and background into the room where libby was being abused he saw the people who were there you can identify some of those people the british were present and. at that time and he can tell you a whole lot about what was going on in terms of the abuse or validly now libby can't speak for himself because he was sent back to libya where he according to the

libyans gadhafi died or according to our people was murdered so one extraordinarily embarrassing witnesses disappeared and shakhtar is one of the few people are men i just like to be. his own testimony that he rightly said they these adult cattle is an adult yes i can see the light well over one hundred prisoners a striking in solidarity we're not going to take it anymore and he does that. while it's recently begun with the koran being disrespected but it is now much more than that. they've been hunger strikes the full what do you feel this time is different this time is different for two reasons one is that there's many many more people on hunger strike and the thing that shocked i hope is he feels that the result of. the prison is that he hasn't seen him for a long time in that prison. but there's another reason it's very different and that's that the americans response is just bob baer that's not having the desired

effect the council in charge thinks that he can beat people into submission but these are guys who have suffered for eleven years and there is nothing this can throughout them that they haven't seen before so they're just not going to put up with that now what you've got to really worry about is that it's going to be different in another way which is that people are going to die and that's what i'm most concerned about is that not just shack a bit i've got fifteen plants down that still and i'm very concerned that more than one of them will end up getting out of guantanamo in a coffin i think that's a realistic possibility i think shakhtar could die just because of his physical ailments i mean this is a guy who's told me before that he's slowly falling apart slowly done in a step by step that he wouldn't have to go on hunger strike for me to worry about because the litany of his physical ailments is a page long and he's not getting proper treatment for any of them so he and other

people could very well died people have died in kuantan and this hunger strike makes it exponentially more likely again partly because the americans don't know what's going on they think some of my guys aren't on them just right when i know they are and that really worries me that not keeping close tabs on people's physical well being how is it possible that they don't know that some people are in hunger strike when they actually are the same way that they think a fourteen year old child is a big time terrorist member of london cell of al-qaeda when it never been to britain. because they just don't have good intelligence about almost anything if you think about this was a guy called mohammed ali gorani who i represented and you think they couldn't work out how old he was eight years of interrogations that gives you some insights on how limited then knowledge about everything is on that base and so just to give you

one example i know one of my clients is accepting liquid supplement ensure not from self but one of his mates who has been really really ill and he's forcing this guy to take it because he doesn't want his friend to die now the americans thing my clients taking that but he's not so there's just so many things that the u.s. doesn't know when they don't know because they're not treating these people as humans if they treated the prisoners with respect to the prisoners would treat them with respect for what you see yourself what evidence do you have that people are actually dying inside well i've seen people's physical status i've made shaq strip off for me so i can see some of his physical ailments i've done that with other prisoners i've watched shock and with a tube up his nose when he was being force fed and i watched him pull that chub out . the u.s. general mayhem and in public it's not me saying it where he said he get less convenient for the prisoners by pulling that tube out every time the fed i mean you

have one hundred twenty centimeters long tube stuffed up you don't know it and then pulled out after each feeding now that's just barbaric it's illegal for them in the first place to force feed prisoners but to do it in that way just compounds the problem and they're doing it to try to force prisoners to give up their hunger strike that's just serious or wrong but i'm afraid the military authorities don't seem to understand is these guys have suffered enough to just not going to take being abused into submission again. so you know we i want both sides to be reasonable i don't want my clients to die and i don't want the military to the bad when they do whatever i want to survive but they want to do this in a way of resolving this combative mentality that we see going on between the guards and the detainees there's no way to get around the confrontation between the military and the prisoners unless the military is willing to be less

confrontational i mean you don't run prisoners prisons by beating people up in any sensible person i've dealt with prisons my whole life and any sensible would never person tries to reach accommodation treats people decently treats them like human beings and then they get that and response but as long as the u.s. thinks they can just be used people this if they were abusing a three year old then what do you expect really told us about the evidence of m i six involvement well first we have to recognize that taking any prisoner to guantanamo was a serious breach of the geneva conventions a war crime so the british should never have had anything to do with one time of the first post but today of course they did they were sending agents this to background check was held them to canada was held again. and then to guantanamo where all the prisoners were and they were interrogating people that that. they were providing information misinformation some of them checked his case to the

americans that was then used to maintain this detention without trial all of this is criminal offense all of this ultimately if i have my way they're going to end up facing the international criminal court which is certainly what i got my sights if the british police don't do it lies that that's the thank you very much for joining us today ok. money skis and maybe a second to be a beanie money in stevia to soup which is both a cultural contemporary i don't take no logic to serve the auditorium so join me to almost say honored see i made the second as we bring you the glitz the glamour and the best of the best in the performing arts right here at marine ski pia to team.

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