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a declaration of gloom that's how syrian officials have described the latest israeli airstrike a military research center near damascus was pummeled with rockets early on sunday iran slammed instability and pledges support for the syrian regime while the u.k. calls for and then to the arms embargo on the opposition saying peace in the region is now under threat. this is coming to you live from moscow hello and welcome to the program. c.n.n. deputy foreign minister says israel has in effect declared war this comes hours after israeli planes bombed targets in damascus the second ass trikes in as many
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days syrian state media says israeli rockets targeted and military research center on the outskirts of the capital of video footage and eyewitness accounts suggest that weapons dumps triggering large explosions journalist abdullah now as he has the latest now. two o'clock damascus time after midnight there was a big three explosion took place attacking research center and other military stations military units let's say this lead to. the quick. something like three to four on the richter scale and big fire. launched over and over the mountain this was seen everywhere in damascus all the houses in damascus which shake everyone wake up and. this lead into the very very have been a big explosions in some immunity warehouses and in the area and the
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destruction in addition to the reaction led by the. this explosion in some civilian houses up to now the syrian. t.v. declared from the first hour that this is the. this is kind of held the syrian rebels against the government kind of reaction to what the syrian government has been achieved there's been talk about an official statement to be issued later on we remember when you were there was an attack on the same research center which research center. now with damascus is very difficult we have we hear it every time some extra bomb beings because of that is still some were not destroyed we have heard of the time the ambulance got everyone so it's possible nobody knows where when and where. recent attacks by israel have signaled
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a sharp escalation of its involvement in the series ongoing conflict middle east correspondent told us here isn't tel aviv with the latest now from the israeli side . the syrian deputy foreign minister files that i would make doug has called this morning's attack on a syrian military research facility to quote him a dick liberation of ruled by israel not to be a tech represented an alliance between islamic terrorists and israel he also says that syria will retaliate against israel in its own time and way now this is extremely important this is the first time we're hearing confirmation from the syrian government that this was an attack carried out by israel and that it is choosing to respond it has regional and international implications because syria of course is a close ally of iran and in all likelihood iran is now bound to also declare war on israel so we were watching this closely of remains to be seen but at the same time the israeli military is still refusing to confirm or deny reports that it is
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responsible for this morning's attack having said this though a senior israeli unnamed source has said that israel is responsible and that the attack was carried out in the vicinity of damascus airport but this official continues to give comments anonymously because he cannot represent any kind of private intelligence or any kind of decisions that will make him made by the israeli government we do know that israel has put in place the defense missile systems near the cities of strength and haifa in the north of the country so that certainly is an indication that israel is preparing at least of something on the ground if not preparing it's at least worried about any kind of retaliation at the opening of the weekly cabinet meeting this morning and the prime minister netanyahu said nothing about the strikes but he did reiterate that he was committed to the security of israel this was the first time that he spoke publicly since these alleged airstrikes certainly in light of the statements coming from the syrian
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government the possibility and probability of an open conflict is that much more possible tensions have been increasing on the ground for quite some time. over the past few days the israeli military called up several hundred thousand reservists for what it called a surprise military exercise on the israeli border with lebanon and in recent days there have been signs of mounting tensions between israel and his beloved which is a militant group based in lebanon but allied with damascus now in a warning to israel earlier this week the hizbullah leader hassan nasrallah did say that his militia was ready to quote him he said he has and they have a hand on the trigger in the event of an israeli attack israel has in the past repeatedly warned that it is prepared to resort to force to prevent any kind of syrian weapons making their way from syria into the hands of his villa and other groups that were also being told that this morning's attack was on
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a stockpile of long range raney in the cells that is well believed ultimately would find their way into his hands back in january it will hit the same with house that was the attack was what that was the target of this morning's attack and if indeed it is confirmed that israel carried out the strike on sunday morning that would be the third time that israel has hit in syria since january this year. iran has strongly condemns the israeli attack on syria and urged other countries in the region to take a stand and iranian foreign ministry spokesman labeled as trying an act of aggression saying that israel is advancing its own interests by trying to create instability in the region with an unprovoked attack on the command of the country's ground forces warned iran is ready to provide logistic support and military training should syria need to defend itself against israel and let's not discuss
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this development with tawfiq sharma who's an expert in middle eastern politics mr traffick sharma welcome to the program this year and deputy foreign minister has said that tok quote the it's a time declaration of war by israel what's next for the region. well good afternoon everybody happy easter. of course. what happened today in fact is the climbing of a set of events that have been. by israel to intervene in the syrian conflict it started. this year by an attack to the same. day and then they started to advocate that the syrian government have used weapons for mass destruction chemical weapons they wanted americans to intervene in
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this. so that they will benefit by the. ruling in syria what happened yesterday in fact was. shocking for israelis and for many in the region that the syrian president appearing in. appearing in damascus unveiling. monument for. mother of the. student. which died two weeks ago or that the syrian government is holding. all. the president is able to move freely in that country and with all that support in damascus means that. still hold its position and support by its people this.
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i think that those israeli. if. they decided to attack this. complex this morning i missed it and i could not. interrupt you british foreign secretary william hague but. go and see when rebels wouldn't that make it more difficult for israel to deal with the flow of weapons across the region now. well well i don't think so i think that there is a some kind of. some kind of correlation between the. fundamentalist . and the western eto against the syrian regime and i think that what's happening today is exactly in support of this and in support of the terrorists that
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are fighting against the syrian regime i think. is doing all its best to support these militants in syria and this attack in fact in the way it's attacking the main area that. the syrian army can hit from all the area of the mosque us all the surrounding or from the mosque us from the attack from the rebels so in this way i think there is a correlation and there is some kind of defined agreement between the israelis and these militants i think there's a state is getting into a situation where they want war. at all prices with regard to loss of what's happening if it will be all regional war or anything else i think that the americans and archons need to accelerate their new bashir showing
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on setting a good deal of if a peaceful talks can come into existence in syria and time soon if. by the declaration of the syrian that this is announcing before and if syria have retaliated in any way i think. war is imminent all right tawfiq sharma middle east expert from the philadelphia university in amman thank you very much indeed for your thoughts. thank you my colleague rory sushi is hope to be all right in a correspondent for israel's ha'aretz newspaper he believes there as trike is justified as a preemptive attack to ensure security. this is part of the israeli poli sci which you can describe as pounce but do not announce don't let the syrian regime transfer surface to surface missiles and surface to air missiles stupas vala but don't brag
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about it so while the reason no official confirmation you can take you almost as face value when you hear the us side confirm it officially what about the legality of israel bombing syria like this without even a un mandate i mean how do you expect the international community to react to this well the israeli and syrian governments have been paying a fragile ceasefire for the last forty years however next door in lebanon on the lebanese government does not control hezbollah and has well i want to take these arms from syria and position them with eleven and while you may say that flying over a lebanese space is not exactly according to international law this is nit picking and while there are many reasons on other aspects to be critical of israeli policy
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it does seem that this time around it is quite balanced yuki's only trying to prevent and preempt further conflict so i'm sure you talk about the israeli airstrike being balanced we've got unconfirmed reports now of at least four hundred people killed massive explosions you call this a balanced reaction to unconfirmed reports that the syrian officials are moving surface to air missiles to hezbollah which they are denying at the time you call it balanced ok let me clarify first of all the reason of course and regrettably so a massacre going on in syria has gone on for the last two years with many thousands of people being killed others perhaps in the hundreds of thousands being uprooted and now being good. you do is across the border and what israel is trying to prevent is another lebanon war this is perhaps a minor price to pay. in order not to pay the bigger price of
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the killing and we have a which will be read by another lebanon war a senior us official confirms to n.b.c. that its raid chance carried out the bombings the washington has been considering arming the syrian rebels and the british foreign secretary joined those calls by saying and norms of boggo should be lifted as the conflict appears to be spreading meanwhile hezbollah warns that militia is ready to take president assad's side in the ongoing conflict and he is marina partner has all the details. u.s. president barack obama wouldn't specifically comment on the reported israeli airstrikes into damascus instead saying that israel is justified in protecting itself from a weapon shipments to the lebanon based group hezbollah most recently we did hear comments coming from the u.s. secretary of defense chuck hagel saying that now the white house is considering to arm the opposition in syria with weapons this is a stance and
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a position that washington was reluctant to take instead saying that it would give financial support that would go to other logistics but not weapons other communication equipment other ways in which the opposition and the rebels could fight against the syrian government but now we see the position at least coming from some members of the white house the position of the u.s. administration is changing but you know you're hearing a variety of different comments one coming one position coming from the secretary of defense and then with when the u.s. president speaks he's a little bit more cautious with his words but over the past few weeks we are hearing this this drumming of rhetoric coming from u.s. officials that are is beating what some would call a drum of potential military intervention. and let's now have a look at what you our viewers have to say about the recent is really tonks on
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syria so let's now have a look at our online poll and have a look at how you have been voting that is so far you can always go to r.t. dot com to cast your vote so at the moment forty one percent of our viewers of you saying that the latest attacks are being made to carry out western plans to help the syrian rebels there just said just three percent about thirty three percent of you saying it's an undeclared war in syria already it's being for there right now just a nineteen percent of you saying that these attacks are sending message to iran and less than seven percent of you saying that. the actions are it's a self-defense. israel so just to go to our online poll to cast your vote and in the meantime it is a beirut based journalist and middle east expert and he believes that is rose trying to drag the u.s.
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military into the regional conflict has there been any escalation against israel for israel to react has there been any military action has used robin been attacked by any side whether it be possible or whether it be syria whether it be housed israel in the been attacked by any side whatsoever israel has not been attacked so we hear this talk about you know changing weapons but all of this you know doesn't doesn't give you a ride to war doesn't give the justification. for such escalation i think you have to put all the pieces of the puzzle together remember that the all of the fuel rather you have a chemical weapons are who was the one which made this first announcement it was. the military intelligence israeli official made the announcement about syria using chemical weapons from a very beginning after president obama. i had said time and again that is the red line that didn't succeed thus far in dragging the us to war against syria
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so now i think that we had two incidents there with i reported the israeli strike on a convoy and now we have been dead an israeli strike on jim but i think we have a classical example of what we would call israel trying to manipulate u.s. policy in the middle east israel is going to continue i think with these practices until it drags the us into a conflict why the reason being that the syrian army has made military advents once very recently it seems that bashar al assad militarily has gained the upper hand and so here's where i realize that assad won't be going unless there is outside intervention outside intervention as i said trying to drag the us by saying if you don't go in then we will we shall wreak havoc we should go ahead with our own military escalation. so the breaking news story this hour
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a syrian official cold as trikes on the country's military research facility a declaration a war by israel the statement came hours after warplanes hit targets on the outskirts of the syrian capital damascus so far there's been no official confirmation from israel that it holds to blame video footage showed huge explosions at the site of the as strike which is said to have targeted a military research facility as i said hundreds of via dead there's been no official confirmation of casualties that series deputy foreign minister says damascus will choose a time and why and the way to retaliate for all dates and developing story in a news bulletin and online and you don't stay with us as we have a whole story is for you out of the.
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news today violence is once again flared up. these are the images the world has been seeing from the streets of canada. trying to operations throughout the day.
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this is our city welcome back this week workers around the globe joined a day of protest against unemployment poor salaries and violations of their rights and number of may day rallies in particular made headlines this week in turkey there was violence with police resorting to tear gas and water cannon against angry crowds at least twenty eight who were injured and dozens were arrested these are pictures from barcelona now where the rally was also marred by clashes with police thousands took to the streets in spain they're protesting us territory and unemployment which is at record highs made a protest march to protest as much in athens as well all part of a twenty four hour walkout following the recent cut biog of fifteen thousand public sector jobs and it comes as the e.u. faces the protest the prospect of another year of recession and job losses
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according to forecasters. these are three countries with the highest unemployment rates in the eurozone in greece twenty seven percent of the workforce is out of a job while in spain why in every four is unemployed portugal's rate is not thought behind on just seventeen point five percent all these tests are silly has been finding out how people across europe are dealing with skyrocketing unemployment and found out that leaving their country in popular choice. the unemployment rate in the years old has recently reached a record twelve percent and for those aged twenty five and below in countries like spain and greece that number is as high as more than fifty percent with very little signs of any economic improvement and for those who are looking for a job that search is no longer just about trying to find work many are now trying to leave their home countries. like niccolo wriggles e a biology graduate from italy now working in
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a show in brussels and the situation in italy was actually awful because the only thing i was able to get is a really short contract for like free mouth for six months with absolutely no possibility of growing out in an industry or in the laboratory anything most of most of them were totally unpaid because you can't really think of your future he says it was a do walk in the park in beijing either as many companies require working knowledge of both french and dutch a barrier that may be hard to overcome but perhaps still more attractive for some the going back home i read. in two thousand and twelve. and the person the person of young people who immigrates from italy grow up by thirty forty percent in two thousand and twelve i really don't know what will be
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interesting for you and it's not just easy citizens feeling the pinch foreigners would come to europe to seek new opportunities starting their will businesses and building their lives have now will also change their minds freds iana this meant leaving greece and go read all the way back to her native ecuador and while homesickness was the initial reason for the move she has no regrets about making that decision the six one hundred also many for. and is decided to leave greece and move to countries like germany and switzerland but the greeks who stayed behind are saying that the situation is really difficult when for instance service men who used to get one and a half thousand euros are now paid just nine hundred places been open for two years and those still new i believe we have very good prospects for the future and this is something she says just isn't possible the year right now to trend look at the figures in countries like ireland some people argue that
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a whole generation has left and perhaps for good you know. i don't think so or rather a stay here for them does so sylvia our team brussels. the face of british politics appears to be changing with some unexpected results coming out of the local elections this week the anti e.u. anti establishment u.k. independence party it picked up a quarter of the boats propelling it from the margins into a real force and let's now take a close look ukip gained one hundred one hundred and thirty nine new local councillors up from just eight the labor party it finished two hundred and ninety one save some up the two cullison parties were badly hit with the liberal democrats losing one hundred twenty four seats and the tories are down three hundred thirty five seats left to contemplate how to get their frustrated voters
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bought from the u.k. prime minister david cameron is now planning to focus on the main issues of you capes program e.u. membership and immigration in his speech outlining the government's legislative plans and r.t. as a billboard asked the deputy leader of the u.k. independence party paul now sell if ells the conservative party were about to wrestle the initiative away. david cameron is committed to the european union we know that because he said if that is it our friends and he will campaign to stay in and if you're members of the european union you can't control your own borders so we have a problem in this country where we have twenty two percent youth unemployment a million kids in britain who are going to work every day and what about to open our borders or to twenty nine million remaining in a bulgarians when restrictions for on january first income earners are permitted that is not a good can do about that so quite frankly we're not worried that he's going to pass his time con artist because he simply can't see how you going to gain momentum now
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because surely most governments at the time of these midterm elections always lose popularity you've got to keep the momentum up now but really to aim for part of parliament now is that that's is that really realistic for ukip its early stages well i think we will take a seat in the house of commons if not two seats before the general election in two thousand and fifteen if we continue on our trajectory in byelection zameen we are finishing seconds and a lot of buy elections now particularly in the north of england and i think that we can eventually take a seat in a byelection but let's not forget that a big elections next year the european elections take place in june two thousand and fifteen these are the elections that we will win i genuinely believe we will send more any peace but it's a brussels than any other party and then in two thousand and fifteen ukip will be standing in every single constituency and we will be putting up a good fight if we enter the election on double digits ahead of the liberal democrats we have leadership debates in this country and will be on those
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leadership debates of people wipe the floor with clegg cameron and for a large mania will start just finally back to the immigration policy people do perceive you as racist how are you going to overcome that challenge just briefly. well quickly we have a blanket ban on anybody who's been a member of a far right political party ever joining ukip that has nothing racist about the school shooting immigration i want to british jobs for british workers and the us now take a look at some other news stories from around the world this hour police and hard line islamists have clashed in bangladesh after protests blocked roads and cut all becomes all darker thousands of security forces fired rubber bullets and tear gas on demonstrators as they called for strict anti blasphemy laws and they also demanded death for atheist blogger is the cause outcry earlier this year.
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thirty nine people have been killed and at least thirty seriously injured when a funeral procession degenerated into sectarian violence in nigeria christians and muslims armed with guns and machetes clashed after alleged falling christian chanting during the brutal over a burial of a local chief scores of houses were burnt to the ground and the town has been put on a round the clock curfew since much sectarian violence has already claimed the lives of one hundred people in the country. protesters armed with a severed paid head have clashed with police during an islamic protest in the british city of leeds four people were arrested after a van and bottles broke out between members of the far right engaged to first league and authorities over the construction of a new islamic center. last month three of the deadliest for iraq in nearly five years the un said more than seven hundred people
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were killed with the violence was running towards the end of the month is the terrorism situation is happening ten years after the u.s. declared victory over the saddam hussein regime. a difficult decade major combat operations in iraq have ended in the battle of iraq the united states and around. have prevailed president george w. bush delivered the message on may the first two thousand and three a declaration of success followed by years of bloody work when bush made that speech i was in the military and public affairs that was the stated mission you know liberation and freedom for iraqis and it didn't seem to me like that happening because they were all this violence that was her had she waited by our presence for years after this speech as many americans and the whole world saw iraq as a part mire washington decided to send in twenty thousand more troops that surge cost the u.s. the lives of more than
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a thousand soldiers and many billions of dollars of taxpayers' money on his deathbed iraq war veteran thomas young wrote a letter to george w. bush and dick cheney the one good move was. both. born under terrible lying in the church of american politics sometimes even doubting success can be perceived as blasphemous that's been true for the iraq surge even today will you correct or incorrect when you said that the search would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since viet nam where you are correct or incorrect by right or no my reference to the surge and jeanne what is your goal the question is were you right or wrong my answer is i'll defer that judgment to history i think history has already made a judgment about the searcher and you're on the wrong side of it chuck hagel is reference to vietnam was not uncalled for years into the vietnam war even as most
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americans saw the involvement there is a mistake thousands of u.s. troops continue to die because washington didn't want to admit it someone has to die and so that president nixon won't be and these are his words the first president to lose a war supporters of president bush say history will treat him more kindly regarding iraq but the history that is being lived by iraqis today is one that has neither peace nor security in a country ripped apart by terror sick tarion violence and hears of a looming civil war in washington i'm going to shut down. and coming up later here on out c d i y defense patrols hit the streets of britain muslim hard liners take region out of the most and onto the pavement sharing a sharia law with six packs in law london locals will meet them shortly.
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most people in the western world would agree that having laws that officially. second class citizens is totally unacceptable we can look at the way jews were treated in nazi germany or black starting apartheid in south africa and the slavery jim crow areas in the usa as examples of legally dividing society by necessity i think most people you with their modern sensibilities would find these practices to be bob barrack and backwards but my question is that why is there to this day officially sanctioned second class citizens in certain e.u. countries or to be more accurate i should say nonces. million people in latvia around three hundred thousand of them are considered non-citizen residents who can neither vote nor hold public office these non-citizens are russian speakers of various ethnic backgrounds whose children also by birth bearer of the non-citizen
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status not happy being on the bad side of apartheid the non-citizens have logically decided to vote for their own parliament because they can't elect or participate in the left field what even if the parliament has no power whatsoever it will be their chance to shine a light on the issue which the mainstream media has been keeping quiet for years you know you'd think that people would be outraged over segregation but what happens to russians and russian speakers is just not cool or hip or trendy or convenient enough for the mainstream media to take notice but that's just my opinion. churi along the streets of london it may sound fun and fetched but some muslim vigilantes are trying to make it an reality in some parts of the british capital and conventional toxics of these so-called defense patrols have sparked controversy
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from already just groups. of course how some of the new fledged. but that is of misinformation on taste trying to pay serial or an unsuspecting members of the public first hit the headlines there was an outcry in person well since then some arrests have been made because artist found out self-titled most of them patrols a still in operation the muslim community will continue to patrol the streets and clear the streets of the first isn't illegal activities this group called themselves the shari'a project. they make a point of differentiating themselves from the more hardline missile and patrol his videos cause such anger we think with things like this we're almost. out of we're proud of. our work. a little longer a little bit calmer and really focused on. this patrol they say that whilst they
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share many of the same piece as the other patrols they'd never employed the same question tactics. in the background. i mean looking at those patrols i can say that is commendable that have come out and decided to take some kind of action against you know these things taking place . the actual actions and the shouting of people stealing bodies by intimidation obviously there is always a better way to do things my approach as a muslim is to advise my muslim brothers i see you do an action that perhaps more appropriate always advise me to say what is this in many in the mainstream islam community these patrols across the concern was if it is ensuring widespread media coverage many muslim leaders have condemned their actions is wrong and i'm representing. these individuals are
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a fringe minority you know they don't represent the muslim community there's two point seven million muslims and. ok and. you know they would never. condone this type of behavior the groups were very clear to us that they have peaceful intentions some of the members are alleged to be involved with the more extreme patrols while members serve three and a half years in prison on charges of terrorist fund raising and fighting terrorism a vis these and it didn't take him long to make his more hardline these known. to go to him i believe so because i believe those who disbelieve in the oneness of god part of this vision would be the end point anyway and those laws that the established would that would go with them would for how to roll etc into him while i have no respect for vision or whatsoever i asked the leader of the shari'a project whether he was concerned by statements like that i said you know if you take it from the passive approach then i don't think you fix the country with our
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great country we're doing no i shall to the full testing of your food before you start with the charade which i think that you some things are really costly for your day to day the body both amongst the muslims and the white british community there are worries not just about these actions but about the potential repercussions the relatively small minority could have all a much larger scale so r.t. london. and on r.t. dot com for you right now a warning sign in the euro with suggestions and extremist hate group could be a rematch uring twenty first century germany a new class clown said has appeared and made rising anti immigrant tensions within the country check out the full story on r.t. . and norway becomes the latest country to join the route of a truck corney an anti-piracy laws after drafting
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a bill that would tightly hinder that actions of internet users find out on our website what happens if the bill is passed. and up next we'll hear from dr rashid a lady also of how the u.s. has undermined peace in the middle east. welcome to teal one out here you can feel it's home. if there are three choices in life first is to work in a mckillop live on a miserable way like a slave. the second is to jump the wall and catch the american dream. most of them are and lose their lives.
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with. good. and i'm. gonna make. he is an author and professor at columbia university and his new book is called brokers of deceit how the u.s. has undermined peace in the middle east joining our team now for an exclusive one on one interview is dr rashid khalidi thank you very much for taking the time stick with me today pleasure now you argue that over thirty plus years the u.s.
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has used language to undermine the peace process and you say even the phrase peace process when spoken by u.s. administrations has been extremely disingenuous why so well the term peace process itself is an example of what i'm talking about orwellian language and saying things that are fundamentally not true united states brokered peace treaty between egypt and israel took of a number of years but they got it they got a result president carter started working on palestinian autonomy so-called another word that's used in my view in a disingenuous way in one nine hundred seventy eight thirty five years ago so united states has been engaged in a process there's no question for three and a half decades it hasn't produced peace and i are here in this book that in fact if you look structurally at what where they were trying to attempt they couldn't achieve peace what they were trying to do in essence was to do something that was
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under a ceiling of what israel would allow and now that did not amount to anything that the palestinians could ever accept a didn't really amount to real statehood or real self-determination so it was a process which was described as a peace process but it really wasn't it couldn't have led to a resolution of this conflict what is the u.s. gain from undermining peace in the middle east many would argue that it's in the u.s. his interests to create peace in the east there are two state solution well in the it's clear that achieving peace between major countries like egypt and israel for example was in the u.s. interest it was in u.s. interest because a clash between egypt and israel had the potential back in the days of the cold war of a superpower conflict in one seventy three for example. fortunately on the palestine issue there is no weight of opinion no body of powerful interests that say you have got to resolve this because it will be harmful in this and that way to the united states if you don't there was briefly during the occupation of iraq when you had a number of leading strategic figures the then secretary of defense secretary gates
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the then chairman of the joint chiefs of staff admiral mullen and general petraeus when he was commander in iraq all of whom said america's bias on this issue america's failure to resolve this harms it in the arab world but you don't hear that forcefully argued in washington what you do hear forcefully argued is people who say no no no you mustn't push beyond certain israeli red lines and these people have tended to prevail in the past here simply saying that the u.s. right now is acting as so-called lawyer for for israel they are not as as mediator as their broker is between israel and palestine in the book i talk about numerous cases where this is exactly what happened and i end up using the term that was in fact not even i didn't even coined the term israel's lawyer it was an american diplomat who's been engaged for decades in this aaron david miller and he himself was quoting sector state kissinger so i think it's an apt term in fact united states has not been an honest broker when i was an advisor to the palestinian
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negotiators from ninety one to ninety three we saw multiple instances of the united states supposedly mediating but in fact being even less forthcoming than were the israelis themselves and so you know clearly the united states has not been an honest broker or a fair mediator in fact it has tended to be even less even less willing to take certain daring moves than were the israelis at certain points now in the past alice stands have had a certain level of confidence in certain u.s. presidents right you argue that right now the palestinians carry this point now president barack obama. well. a number of us presidents including president obama at early stages in their presidency have tried to push beyond the arm biloba of what is accepted in terms of what the israelis will let you get away with basically what the lobby will accept what israeli prime ministers will fight you over they say obama has tried i would argue the president carter tried president reagan tried
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president bush sr tried president clinton tried and president obama tried but in each case they have been they've been they've been rebuffed and they haven't pursued pursued persisted in what they were trying to do so i think we've now reached a point where. a interim supposedly interim solution is palestinian authority which was established back in the mid ninety's has been there for almost twenty years and there has been no resolution of the conflict and palestinians of i think lost confidence not just in this president but in the united states cities that mean of the prospects of an israeli palestinian resolution under obama. will not happen will it be eight years wasted when he leaves the white house do you think that what we're four years and counting have been wasted so far i think that is in a sense doesn't change its policy you know it's will not only not help to resolve this conflict it will continue to do what it's done for most of these past thirty five years it will make it worse and it's not just a neutral actor now it's is is supporting israel.

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