president bush sr tried president clinton tried and president obama tried but in each case they have been they've been they've been rebuffed and they haven't pursued pursued or persisted in what they were trying to do so i think we've now reached a point where. a interim supposedly interim solution this palestinian authority which was established back in the mid ninety's has been there for almost twenty years and there has been no resolution of the conflict and palestinians of i think lost confidence not just in this president but in the united states says that mean of the prospects of an israeli palestinian resolution under obama. will not happen will it be eight years wasted when he leaves the white house do you think that what we're four years and counting have been wasted so far i think that is in a sense doesn't change its policy you know it's will not only not help to resolve this conflict it will continue to do what it's done for most of these past thirty five years it will make it worse and it's not just a neutral actor it's is is supporting israel diplomatically. gives israel three

billion dollars a year in military assistance much of it much of which seems to me to be used in ways that are in violation of u.s. law in ways that are not defensive bombing gaza for example and finally it's american money from five zero one c three tax deductible charitable organizations that is funneled by the hundreds of millions of dollars to the settlement enterprise in the west bank this is active american participation in making a settlement less likely so united states has not only not helped to resolve this i would argue it's made it is made the situation where the u.s. also does give support and financial aid to palestine as well correct to the passing authority alison that are most of which goes to security forces which under the agreements that were signed back in the mid ninety's do much more to provide security for israel and the is illegal israeli settlers than they do for secure provide security for palestinians in the occupied territories they don't protect the palestinians when israelis carry out an incursion or are not down doors in the middle of the night what they. do is try and stop palestinians from resisting or

attacking israelis who are illegally settling in the occupied territories or otherwise present israeli military forces why do so that's what usaid does in other words going to the palestinians most of them see you argued that u.s. administrations have used corrupt language to manipulate the israeli palestinian track but is that the whole mark for the us foreign policy for that entire region or is it just exclusive to the israel palestine issue well i mean i think this kind of language is not exclusive to this conflict or to the united states. i was thinking that through without what i want is going to get i can think of many many instances i think that the arab israeli conflict and especially the palestinian israeli component of it which is the core is particularly susceptible to mis making and to language which is really fundamentally false i mean israel is a democratic and a jewish state where there are all kinds of rights that are denied to non jews so

how much can it be democratic but we say it's a democratic state to be are we are with other countries for i understand that but those those critiques i think if you if you say x x country or y. countries democratic supposedly we should examine that in this case it tends to be passed over similarly people talk about security israeli security world israeli security is a term that's very very broad it's used is it's used to cover things that involve inflicting insecurity on other people is that you know these are the kinds of uses of language that i argue in this conflict are particularly prevalent and are particularly dishonest now i'm sure that you can find many many bills in other conflicts do you believe that palestinians the palestinians are generally interested in breaking the status quo or do you think that they have learned to live with the circumstance as it is now and breaking the sabbath may be too uncomfortable you know i think that most passed it but the person suffered more than. anybody else in this conflict there's no question and so they would in their

overwhelming majorities love to see this conflict solved now that said unfortunately there are some palestinians who profit from the status quo associated with the regimes in ramallah and gaza and those are people who may be comfortable in some ways with the status quo but they're a very small minority so i would i would say that you can you just need to go there to the occupied territories and see how much people are suffering and how angry they are at the status quo last year palestine received an elevated status at the united negro complete that that help has helped the palestinian authority in any way in that's ongoing negotiations for for a peace deal unfortunately it hasn't i think it might have but the way in which it's been employed has unfortunately not in any way maximize the opportunities that were opened to the palestinians and the palestinians could have pushed aggressively in variety of un forums like the international criminal court or unesco or elsewhere to try and stop violations that in this negotiating process have been

ignored for decades these things should be brought to somebody that can do something about them and this admission this elevation of the status of palestine should have made that possible it has not because the past the majority hasn't done it they haven't done it precisely so why haven't they done well for reasons that must have to do with their own internal calculations they are dependent to some extent on american support and therefore they don't want to alienate the americans they're dependent to some extent on israeli i don't know what you want to call it. the israelis not stepping all over them and so they're afraid to antagonize the israelis or or they are presumably willing to go along with this raid that's been going on for decades now of a so-called peace process in my view those are mistakes. how has the so-called arab spring affected this this negotiation this peace process do you think it's had any effect on it do you think it's deadly the peace process do you think it's had

the major powers including the u.s. slowdown when it comes to israel and palestine negotiations happening there rethink any kind of negotiations or tentative agreement what kind of effect has the arab spring i think it has not that much of an effect or not though i think that the situation of the arab world and the unwillingness of the mostly undemocratic governments throughout the arab world has measurably increased the complicated don't put it differently has made this problem harder to resolve because the arab governments have really not put their money where their mouth is and they have not really forcefully acted. in terms of the palestine question the way that they say that there are many tribes of their infertility many well egypt or other look at the situation internally in egypt i mean given those kind of complications you can sort of understand why the egyptians camp pay much attention to this and what i would say is this if the arab countries were seriously addressed as as they claim to be you would have heard a lot more about the arab peace initiative in the many many many years since it was

unnerves or when saudi arabia or when quit or when a major arab country that has significant financial resources wants to make a point about something it has the means to do that they haven't i would argue though that the arab spring has the potential to change the democratic regimes when and if they can be established will have to answer to their own people and their public opinion feels very strongly about this issue you are not the first to make it to present these arguments that you're now presenting in your book and you probably will not be fortunately what do you hope that readers get from your book well i would hope american readers would get an understanding of the fact that they're being lied to by the politicians and to some extent by the mainstream american media there is not a peace process and united states is not a force for good in this conflict. it is made the situation considerably worse over the past three and a half decades when we went to madrid in october one thousand nine hundred one there were two hundred thousand israeli settlers in the occupied west bank in

occupied arab east jerusalem there are almost six hundred thousand now that's a result of events that were things developments that were allowed to take place while supposedly a peace process or undergo was a was under way i would argue that those those developments have made a two state solution impossible as somebody has to be held accountable for this and a different approach i think has to be found we have yet another administration trying to follow the same approach basically that president carter negotiated back in seventy eight at camp david autonomy and piecemeal step by step confidence building all this should be thrown out the window this has to be negotiate on the basis of international law on the basis of clear principles and say we want to get to this and we have to do it in this way not not in any way the way in which it's been pursued up till now but if the u.s. remains the main broker cannot happen do you think that this these negotiations with better off if the u.s. was removed from all the research is not going to be removed because the united states is the sole superpower the united states is the nine hundred pound gorilla

on the block in the going anywhere however the addition of any other party almost literally any country on the face of the earth with the exception of the few south pacific islands that vote for the united states no matter what with all due respect anybody would be a better mediator than the united states almost literally anybody because united states has shown such a degree of bias and is so closely connected to the israeli position on so many issues here is the message i would have been in the book for others i mean is this not a vital interest for europeans for russia for india for china they get their energy from the middle east this is a vital interest for them america doesn't get its energy from middle east and it's going to be energy efficient like russia very soon but the countries that. their energy from the middle east have a vital interest in doing something about this and they have just but they've been very very little i think they have to push a lot harder for a little more fairness a little more even handedness in mediating this conflict. thank you very much for

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