live from moscow ten pm outrage in the u.n. offer a syrian rebel group kidnaps four of its unarmed peacekeepers i meet suspicion that such actions make see the opposition lose much of its international backing. afghanistan's neighbors brainstorm how best to curb extremism when u.s. troops withdraw or with the threat growing elsewhere in the region to islam is done rest sweep through bangladesh now. known as russia's great cardinal resigns from a top position in the government to take a look at the man what could be behind his exit from the. bus when life in prison is the only life you can afford certain courts of the higher jailing the hopeless and people with disabilities because i can't afford to pay a small fine.

just joined us will be watching you around the world very good to have your company it's kevin owen here at r t h q tonight on the top story that as i've just been mentioning the u.n. is calling for the immediate release of four of its peacekeepers that are held by syrian rebels peacekeepers a reduction in the golan heights the did militarized zone between syria and israel is our middle east correspondent paula slee of them with the latest. i've just gotten off the phone with the deputy chief of staff for the united nations peacekeeping force in the area and he says that they are definitely remaining there this follows the kidnapping of four filipino un peacekeepers who are being held in a cease fire line between syria and the israeli side of the golan heights now that is almost a no man's land not the israeli nor syrian forces can go operate in that area what we do know is that they were abducted while on patrol the u.n.

does say that efforts are under way to secure their release and according to the u.n. chief banking moon he has strongly condemned the abductions and he has called for the immediate release of these peacekeepers a syrian group by the name of the martyrs of published a photo that is the portuguese showing the four men who have been held they also say that they're being held to quote for their own safety now according to this group they were clashes and heavy shelling in the yarmouk valley which is in the south of the separation zone this is not the first time that forces have been kidnapped in this area the kidnappings could potentially see the rebels losing their overwhelming support or could even harm their reputation i mean one just has to look at washington which seems to be taking now a much more moderate position washington is a green that both sides should sit down at the negotiation table and course that is a position that moscow has always held that there is a need for the damascus regime in the rebels to sit around

a negotiating table and hammer out their differences meanwhile the push for talks between the warring sides in syria has been agreed during a visit to moscow by the u.s. secretary of state but r.t. contributor should return visit you spoke to his believes the u.s. might find it hard to back the rebels now and seek a political solution at the same time. kerry is saying the united states it restated saying to the other we have good that they have common interests they both promote regional stability prevent the spread of extremism it's difficult to know what russian president vladimir putin can possibly say to the u.s. secretary of state because we all know most of the world knows that the nato powers have been doing exactly the opposite not promoting regional stability and helping the spread of extremism how have they managed to talk through these hours and less presumably to putin has explained that the only way to prevent extremism is to stop late to backing the rebels in syria. you know as well if not call it already coming

up at nineteen hours g.m.t. cross-talk tonight examines the many unanswered questions thrown out by syria's drawn out conflict is a quick taste of what's coming up. i disagree that there is any solution in which side is going to remain in power and that's simply not going to happen we need to be thinking about a post assad syria here's where i think actually russia has an important role to weigh to play they have been trying to do that and the americans have been saying no because obama you know what it was the first obama alliances assad had to go and now they're about to restructure saying look after two years he's not go away the only possible solution i agree from the beginning that's right it was proposing that let's sit down. there all the players if you're including all the regional players. you know. the clock's ticking for afghanistan and those international forces prepare for the

twenty fourteen withdrawal leaving the country on its own then with its flawed security the transition has many regional players on alert as they try to break the storm over how best to contain afghanistan's especially during a brand of extremism going to count. the u.s. prepares to withdraw the bulk of its forces from afghanistan by the end of two thousand and fourteen karzai stepping down with the elections coming up also in two thousand and fourteen what's next the possibility of a power vacuum in afghanistan and the question what demons can emerge from that vacuum is of great concern to the whole region a vacuum in afghanistan seems to be nobody's interest here's a brief and very rough breakdown of what players regional and non regional are trying to achieve in afghanistan you ren despite the rivalry with the u.s. has three years supported the karzai government because having a completely chaotic and unstable afghanistan is a neighbor is obviously not good for them washington is of course interested in keeping the more or less centralized structure of the government in afghanistan for that the us is even ready to engage the taliban in talks and maybe see them as part

of the government in the future that's right having fought the taliban for over ten years the u.s. is now talking about a political solution pakistan is the middleman here the message that they want pakistan to deliver to the taliban is that the allies are ready for talks on leave the taliban make a big public break with global jihad is the telephone have a strong pakistan although the pakistani government denies having much influence on them but pakistan's motives have been mixed to say the least on the one hand the help the uighurs and the allies and pakistan has suffered greatly from the extremism that spilled over the border after the u.s. invasion in of ghana's then on the other hand they were accused of helping the taliban to keep leverage with them in case they get in power also as a hedge against indian influence so they have that rivalry going so as far as pakistan's interests it's been complicated russia possibly the greatest threat to russia faces now from afghanistan is the flow of afghan heroin that kills thousands

of russians every year so russia has a state it has stated a clear interesting afghanistan that would be under control of a responsible government not plagued with corruption. and a government that would help and this drug play but what if global powers are on able to avoid a power vacuum in afghanistan what could happen then if you've ever comes to the stage where we have to deploy our forces or support somewhere you may have to delete the only problem is in the past in the one nine hundred ninety s. after the soviet withdrawal this kind of external proxies led to a major civil war with. positive outcome one thousand nine hundred ninety six so we want to avoid that kind of civil war like situation now as far as the taliban the talks with them stalled last year after their failure to agree on the terms for the release of five afghan insurgent commanders held at guantanamo it's not really

clear how far those talks will go because the taliban are not homogenous either part of them seems to think that once nato pulls out they'll be able to take over anyway so why negotiate in washington i'm going to check on what is going to mention the russians one of those countries most interested in a stable afghanistan focusing on the limit putin said that international forces have failed to make a breakthrough in the fight against terrorism and the regional players therefore need to act to prevent radical groups spreading well beyond the borders. international terrorist groups are making no secret of their plans to export instability and they will try to spread their activities from afghanistan into neighboring central asian countries and russia this holds serious risks for us like an increase in drug trafficking and crime plus the uncontrollable flow of refugees and fundamentalism. and as afghanistan's neighbors puzzle how best to prevent the spillover of extremism another country in the region could well become the next

headache islam is of recently grabbed headlines in bangladesh with their latest confrontation with security forces leaving at least thirty six people dead police more than two hundred thousand hard line islamists there have been mired in one battles for days now a violent demands to make blasphemy a crime punishable by death now the government refusing to budge on a vote and the police are now using live ammunition to is of his factions also demanding other amendments that would in trying sure of principles into law really days a lecturer at britain's northumbria university says that islam is simple should try to turn it into another pakistan wired by security jail. break scented the really secular identity of bangladesh it and over the last fall in two years that they have been actually conspiring against ito's of a secular state and they are trying to convert it to another state like pakistan trying to make peace and govern the state by creating anarchy and whatever you are

seeing right now is actually a result of all these terms they have been trying. for the last forty years some of the major political parties including the main opposition party has been supporting . the international tonight pomp and circumstance but at what price. if your facts are cold such as the daily changing of the guards at buckingham palace the truth isn't terrorists from around the globe but in these times of austerity some of beginning to question why the women says how many tighten their belts along with the rest of the queen's subject just bit later in the program tonight we report on how the british queen gets a pay rise well much of the rest of the country has to take account of. known as russia's great cardinals resigned as vice premier after more than a decade in the halls of power became a renowned ideologist and indeed was thought as a leading figure than the scenes in government to farmer spoke to. across the about

the man and his resignation. this was a sharp departure wasn't what led to it yes it came as a bit of a surprise today. had been working as deputy prime minister in dmitri medvedev the cabinet with responsibility for government policy and media policy. his resignation follows a particularly fractious cabinet meeting with president putin yesterday where putin criticized the cabinet for ticking boxes but not following through with substantial policy reforms he called the their work superficial point. beg to differ during that meeting and his resignation was accepted by putin shortly afterwards he's called the great card listen why is that yeah. the evidence agrees the great heart all of the kremlin known by russia watchers everywhere he is the ek mouth of p.r. into the kremlin administration and is the concept architect behind what's known as

sovereign democracy this was the ideological and political pillars around which ballot bloodier putin built his early administrations so when democracy. advocated values of pride independence and what became known around the world as i guess i started writing a putin's don't lecture us stance when it came to democracy in transition particularly young democracies such such as russians and because of his work on the political p.r. side the expression propaganda and to the contemporary russian lexicon you mention that around with you seen that he had that's not the only raw is it recently that he said well it's easy if you're are you referring to school cohere and when worked with president medvedev of modernization he advocated setting up the school of a technology hold the research excellence hold the running outside moscow now. a strong vision for modernization of russian economy and bring innovation culture

into russia's economy. most recently has been involved in a rather cultural. actual corruption probe. has been gazed in a public dialogue with one of the prosecutors spokesman's spokesman on that. it was stressed today that so-called decision to resign had nothing to do that also well he also expressed recently in the london school of economics at a speech he gave last week that he might be looking at a return to the business world where he worked quite success with. things being just not about more news just a minute from now. every detail. every piece of metal. and every one of those who will step on red square on the ninth of may are ready.

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this is. the american civil liberties union has launched a campaign to educate the public about the severity of accumulating too much debt that comes off revealing figures show a rising number of people who failed to pay back the debt so no big put in jail to put it in the state of ohio with such a practice is fairly common in fact i mean harsh criticism but it is the constitution a midwestern u.s. state. internationally recognized for being the battleground where america's next president is decided let's talk about the importance of ohio and in the battle for ohio state eighteen electoral votes mean so much elbows paid a lot of attention ohio ohio. you're probably going to decide the next president of united states for the past thirty six years no candidate has entered the white house without winning this swing state while ohio undoubtedly wields an enormous influence in the arena of u.s.

presidential politics the state is currently garnering headlines for its presence specifically a medieval type punishment being imposed on countless citizens who are. drowning in debt according to a report released by the a.c.l.u. of ohio thousands of citizens are being locked behind bars because they are too poor to pay their debt and we saw some really troubling numbers one case that we looked at out of mansfield ohio there was a gentleman and his crime against the community was he let his dog walk in his mobile home park without a leash he was fined thirty dollars and he ended up being found in contempt of court and was sent to jail for not paying for a thirty dollars fine fifty five year old jack jolly was incarcerated three times for failing to pay nine hundred dollars in fines every ninety days you had a jail date. and if you weren't working well you're going to jail debt prisons

violate the u.s. and ohio constitutions according to the a.c.l.u. most of the defendants weren't given hearings before being jailed for outstanding fines if the court had taken any time to ask whether or not they couldn't afford to pay that they would see that these were people who just simply cannot pay they were individuals who are homeless many who haven't worked for months if not years people who are disabled people who are taking care of disabled family members these are people who are working and just don't feel like spending the money these are people who literally have no money people like dante stiles who is unemployed and says he often has to choose between feeding his two children or paying his fines a promise so back and forth back and forth in court back before of constancio two days here fifteen days here and while the cash strapped citizens are incarcerated in gutters prisons. there are fines keep growing like credit card interest it's

described as a vicious circle it was seven hundred thirty thirty seven dollars ok at the eleven days when i went back to court at the court course. and paranoid the public defended it went up actually two hundred dollars more than one point eight million ohioans reportedly live in poverty and i want to get it behind me dolly lost his job last year after missing work for a ten day sentence in debtors prison i had just started the job i was probably there not quite a month. i was expecting a paycheck so i'd gone in early to get a paycheck so i could go in and pay on my fine and upon my release i was terminated from my job dali has received a fifty dollars credit for each of the sixteen days he was illegally imprisoned but most like styles have not and the state revered for predicting america's presidents has garnered a new reputation for how it punishes the poor. artsy ohio. online

tonight from us to you want to grab a gun but don't want to pay for it well not a problem in texas as we're reporting we've got the story of how a group of activists are planning to give away shotguns across the state and it's all with the aim of reducing violence so is that going to work you can find out about tea dot com also that you were reporting about the toxic train derailment in northwestern belgium four days ago but it may be much more serious than first presumed as a mass about motion of residents there that started now if you want to keep abreast of that speed of the r.t. dot com the place to do. the united kingdom is staying committed to measures that reduce the country's

deficit the british queen has laid out her government's agenda for the next year in a speech she said it will work to promote a fairer society and to reward those who work hard and whether what may sound a little unfair for a sturdy hit britain right now is also the news that the royal family set to get a five million pound pay rise to. reports from. my ministers will continue to prioritize measures to reduce the deficit at the same time the creed is set to get a five billion pound pay rise this year thirty six point one million pounds from the u.k. taxpayer will go towards the queen and her residence says her royal chefs and footman cost an estimated ten million pounds a year thirty six million is divided into money which runs the royal household of the queen and the duke of edinburgh most of it goes on salaries also on the upkeep of royal palaces such as buckingham palace and windsor castle and

almost a royal trouble at home and abroad the british monarchy has become synonymous with the image of britain because it is the world's most high profile molecule the queen of ages seven and a consul the duke of edinburgh at ninety one all remarkable examples of public service and of national unity but the cost to the public purse rises steadily as austerity sets in the five million pound increase in the queen's expenses from the states represents a fifteen percent rise in vital services are being lost while the queen gets this big pay rise and i think it's very unfair given that she is personally one of the wealthiest people in britain where the personal wealth of an excess of three hundred million pounds the royal family has over seven hundred servants six palaces

they can quite clearly afford themselves to cover any increased costs they shouldn't be begging for the state it's a royal spectacle such as the daily changing of the guards at buckingham palace the proven terrorists around the globe but in these times of austerity some of beginning to question why the windsors haven't tighten their belts along with the rest of the queen's subjects. last month the guardian poll found that eighty eight percent of brits were happy with the pay rise think this should give more to the poor not to get too much money the future of not overly impressed to be honest i'm sure she's got more than enough money to survive when she named jack asia brings in quite a bit on the toys some whatever but where does it go where where does it that the people that i miss because i work i'm ok where karin you know they're being kept well where does it our progress given romani elsewhere in europe royals have had to rein in best spending in the face of public opinion the spanish royal family's

budget has been reduced for a third year in a row the british monarchy actually stands out around the world it's completely different to almost every other molecule that you can think of in the sense that they are still surrounded by so much home and circumstance and all the marching. the horses that wind alongside the fronts of carriages the published figures suggest that the royal family the queen and everybody else process around something close to forty million pounds a year but doesn't take into account all the extra security all the police work that that's involved in protecting her and the rest of the family and it doesn't take into account the money that some lost to the sticker because she and prince charles in particular get lots of tax privileges that the rest of us aren't entitle to and while the government has pushed through budget cuts to the national health service and slashed welfare as part of an unprecedented austerity drive there are those that say that prime minister david cameron's promise that britain is all in

it together doesn't include the queen of england. r.t. london for the night's big news stories internationally we go iraq first where at least eight people have been killed over forty have been injured there in separate attacks across the country now in the northern town of can cook first a suicide bomber detonated his vehicle near the office of the kurdish unit. pardi then that was followed by an attack on a checkpoint in a security patrol in the southwest of the city and after that more people were gunned down over a police station the city of fallujah and in a shooting in mosul been really bad there. a process march in indian controlled kashmir turned violent when hundreds of government employees clashed with police workers from the public health engineering department were demanding better conditions and pay dozens of demonstrators were reportedly detained fallen rest near the chief minister's residence. news coming in this hour to tally an appeals court upheld the tax fraud conviction against former prime minister silvio berlusconi sentencing him to four years in prison he was convicted in connection

with the purchase of broadcasting rights by a television network media set but ask only can still appeal this latest verdict in a high court. france and poland marking their victory over nazi led forces in one nine hundred forty five the presidents of the countries occupied during world war two laid a wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldier in paris the sixty eighth anniversary will also be celebrated here in moscow on thursday and we'll be covering the parade live starting at six in the morning g.m.t. . sometimes to get from a to b. you have to dig for a solution quite literally in the next story a group of russian workers have certainly gone with the flow using huge excavators to cross a fast moving river don't believe me sees it in a question of who's got the story. it really seems like one collab you look at the

key there are so many people there and amazingly they're not just standing there for a bus right they're actually crossing the river using these to ask invaders so for some it can be have a traffic and for others to have a way now let me give you some details on what is actually happening that this video was shot at the end of march in the north of the mountains and as you can see the area is flooded and it also seems that there's going to be a bridge build there in the future but for now people still have to cross it somehow and it seems they've found a way better call it an adrenaline wrong now you've got one ask evader load it was three sometimes even more people now it means the other one half way people climb from one ask a vader to be other it all looks rather dangerous but look at the people they seem quite pleased with themselves anyway when this video first appeared on the internet it went viral was so many commons and very few people were actually concerned about

the fate of the passengers some even labeled this video as another example of how russians can be resilient and resourceful was really hard to argue with that watching this footage. you can't argue with the could be a bit of ingenuity this really does the job albeit probably not. in the studio nice to see you. because the markets closed in russia tomorrow probably whatever there's a day to work today and you were talking about the credit rating agencies that go to the rival state or you yet you kill a live look at slate we know that the big three as they're called they've got a lot of criticism after the financial crisis of two thousand and some bad decisions were made catastrophic results so there is a new life for not going to reveal what is just after the break but i also want to talk about the business bulletin the amount of billionaires in the world where they live what cities are normally read mosco russia is not an issue it's not reliable i

was over the last i'm not going to tell you because i will ruin it i'll take. the. first one more school is a. few billion dollars it went on for. israel's massive attack near damascus days ago wiping syria's raging civil war then there's the issue of chemical weapons should western support of assad's enemies people draw on if it is proven the rebels are using them against their own people wealthy british style. time to write. market why not. come to. find out what's really happening to the global economy

with mike stronger for a no holds barred look at the global financial headlines tune in to conjure reports on our. business head on this wednesday evening here in moscow. now reid dominance of the big three u.s. credit rating agencies has been called into question ever since the financial crisis of two thousand and eight and now they have a new hong kong based rival go on that global credit rating is joining forces with

russia's rust rating and jones based in the u.s. these three agencies will form a universal credit ratings group so the big three as they're called which is made up of standard and poor's moody's and fitch my finally have some serious competition the so-called big three were accused of fueling the two thousand and eight financial crisis after giving top ratings to toxic mortgage securities so earlier today i asked professor john rush man from work university his view on the new ratings rival. it's a good thing that this pulley of the three big u.s. based credit rating agencies is being broken up or at least there is an emergent rival. you know if you if you think about the trends in capital markets the amount of emerging market investment the demand for own securities issued in

in china in russia you know this is a huge demand and it makes sense to have an agency that is regionally focused on those regions can it really stick may rival the big three they the dominance that they have the three big agencies are really struggling for credibility in the wake of the two thousand and eight. global financial crisis you know they got very big much like a lot of banks they got they got big they had a business model which was really a production line of just rubber stamping securities with a aaa rating. this is you know i think with some justification they picked up quite a lot of the criticism for. for bringing the mortgage crisis to a head by by simply looking at their own business and rating very many of these securities

without adequate safeguards on them so we're still working through that and the credibility loss from those those big agencies and yes i think there is you know there is there is space for of for another to rival the oligopoly. and what is the future of credit rating agencies then i mean imagine they have had a bit of a batter egg in terms of their image since the financial crisis so what do you see happening in say ten twenty years time do you see their baby lots of different places to go to get a racing the other thing. that is really not playing in the favor of any of the agencies is that. you know who cares about them anymore. one thing that. really gained prominence during that two thousand and eight period was that investors tended not to look at the rating anymore instead they looked to the credit markets they looked at the credit default swap spreads to give an

immediate rating if you like as to how the market perceives the riskiness now these this is a bit like spread betting on credit worthiness but it reacts almost instantaneously to new news in a way that a credit rating agency doesn't and so certainly when you're talking about rating rating sovereign debt rating the very very big asset classes. you know i think most serious investors would say the been a real loss of relevance of credit rating agencies generally. moving on to the markets and u.s. stocks are rising with the s. and p. five hundred extending record gain use into a fifth session now the dow as you can see is also climbing although taking a breather today after climbing above that fifteen thousand mile for the first time and choose day. things are lows for the likes of whole foods market and electronic

arts beat analyst estimates mining helped lift the u.k. to help offsetting weakness in the banking sector after a lackluster earnings report from standard chartered mainland europe stocks also rose on wednesday really kicking off gains in asia also better than expected chinese export data german assaults virtue with fresh all time highs after upbeat industrial production numbers and it's the last day actually of trading for russia before the victory day celebrations both the bourses finished up with modest gains as you can see in positive territory the my stocks up around a fifth of a percent just thirty basis points for the r.t.s. that we have to gain as ross snapped and sevastopol both up around one percent two big blue chips here moscow and for the russian ruble this is how it performed in session. against the bars the regulator reported today that the national currency

fell one point five percent in april and that was due to instability of the oil market and a drop in exports as well as she makes it the second negative month in a row for the russian ruble now also has come second in a ranking of wall cities by the number of billionaire inhabitants according to insight new york has very most. the russian capital has sixty four billionaires tend more than london which is in third place a hong kong and beijing as well taking of fourth and fifth place just meanwhile when it comes to millionaires wasco is in twenty eighth place when it comes to multi-millionaires the largest number live in london and tokyo has the most millionaires. right so that is all over the business i'll be back in less than two hours time with another edition in a couple of minutes time around she comes down there now and islamic scholar. to

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. ambassador ahmed is my guest today he's the chair of islamic studies at american

university here in washington he was pakistan's ambassador to the u.k. at one time dr ahmed advised us military leaders and diplomats he wrote a great number of books on islam and america's relations with the muslim world his latest book is called the soul and the drone how america's war on terror became a global war on tribal islam dr ahmed before we talk about the remote lands where the drones strike and kill i want to talk about homegrown terror post nine eleven the u.s. has been all over the map chasing terrorists but then you see terror growing right here in the u.s. you know well educated area like ken bridge massachusetts i'm referring to the boston bombers of course what slipped. through the cracks in america's understanding of terror this is a new phenomena a new social phenomenon and the challenge when people see homegrown terrorists they really mean muslims muslim heute boys or young people who are born here or grew up

here in the united states and have turned against the united states i believe that several causes are to be identified you have the problem of you'd growing up in a culture not their own which means many of these boys are from the middle east or south asia or in the case of the boston bombers from the caucasus from monday august and chechnya they're growing in a culture which sort of accept them and sort of doesn't so there's some resistance even in local culture but they fight by so many accounts they did it end. no diff as i said the fitting on one level on another level they don't just take the example of the two boston bombers or of the other previous homegrown terrorist they're hearing around them so much talk of islamophobia so one attacks on the religion on their koran on their culture not necessarily on a religious level so their response is not in islamic response necessarily it's

also a cultural response the same phenomena can be seen in the u.k. where you have many of these young british born muslims growing up in the u.k. being accepted playing cricket going to the pub and so on and yet being involved in terrorism so they're not thankfully many of these but there are cases and these cases i really believe are a consequence of several failures of society larger society not being able to integrate them fully their own community not being able to detect who they are and then give them a certain direction where the boston bomber intelligence warnings were there the guy did not really hide his radical views and there is a says that the authorities did not pursue him and i mean caroline sir and i if well enough because he did not fit into their profile of who would be a jihadi you know probably thinking that it would be someone with maybe a yemeni background can you talk about the danger of profiling in law enforcement with you know i've been charged with law and order myself in the tribal areas of

pakistan in baluchistan and those are the most difficult areas to administer we were taught that you need to learn when the cat is about to jump and where it will jump so when you profile in this broad way that you mention it may be all middle east looking people and we only look at them then our mentality is that we'll all wait if someone is blue eyed or blond he could not be a terrorist as we know terrorism comes in every form every ship we've had many terrorist strikes in the united states of people who were not muslim timothy mcveigh is just. famous example but many of these were local people who are not muslim so the him should be to prevent violence who ever committing it there is a perception that terror grows where there is a lack of education true to a certain extent but there is something that a lot of people don't understand let's look like like people like anwar or larking right an american citizen who was killed in

a drone strike in yemen graduated from george washington university presumably well read so it's not like he hasn't read into what islam is about and then to stumble on target i v majored in philosophy so he probably too did some some we dig but why do they find what they find in islam well let me respond to that's a very good question first the assumption that education means a person is compassionate or sensible or pluralist or inclusive is not really correct secondly that is coming from islam is equally not correct perhaps the most terrible example in recent history is what the germans did to the jewish community in germany in the nineteenth thirties and forties do you know that something like twenty five to thirty percent of the cases which was the most vicious of the german nazi party they were actually ph d.'s or they had them is a higher education degrees where did that leave their humanity they were completely

unsympathetic to the jewish community so again they were they thought they were representing a higher civilization so we have to be very careful about making these generalizations very often these people acting as they do which is completely unacceptable and to be condemned these acts of violence they are coming out of their own broken societies the lack of guidance they're getting and their distorted mutated understanding of islam drones america's new tour in the war on terror some argue if there were no drones they would still. after the suspected terrorist using other vehicles other jets said there would still be missiles and hits what difference did drones really make in your opinion well in my opinion the debate around drones had just started the problem as i see it is with it's one sided there's one side of the debate which is how americans see. the usefulness of drones what they're not seeing

is the impact the drones are having across the world on local tribes local communities where entire communities are being shattered so you may have one or two or three intended targets being killed the bad guys but then you have one hundred two hundred three hundred completely innocent people being killed women children and these are recorded you can look up the stanford university board new york university united nations there are many many reports on this confirming this i have interviewed people in waziristan to have that information in the book now what that is doing is that creates hundreds of more enemies if you take out one enemy and you end up creating one hundred one enemies speaking of the debate as drones moved into the mainstream and they received quite a bit of attention in the u.s. media lately i felt like the main point of these discussions was still whether or not the drones should kill american citizens whether or not they should kill at all

without due process in absolute secrecy that's seem to be you know it remained on the sidelines of the discussion seem to be beside the point what was your sense my sense was you have to be right my sense was that americans tend to be very true centric when dealing with this issue so it's all about americans we're keeping americans safe they're not really connecting this with the people across the world who are being killed as a result of the drone strikes i'm sure that debate will come because american the people who have a great social conscience and once they pick up an idea they feel is in just as they pick it up themselves and they'll go for it and that will happen right now it's not happening and we have to understand that when you have a place like was used which is the focus on my book. small place already impoverished tribal societies no hospitals no roads no education facilities and you hit it with drones again and again and again they've ended up by killing over three

thousand people in was a stand alone and think of the impact on a small society a small tribal society just rips the society apart and in that vacuum you will have these violent angry killers as you call them who then go down to karachi or the hole in the bigger cities and blow themselves up and they say this in one case they killed a young boy ten year old boy in a mosque in g.h.q. the son of an officer pakistan army officer and they killed him and said now you know how we feel and what we go through every day in your book the thistle and the drone you write about how the u.s. props up central governments which then go go out and fight the tribes which is true for afghanistan true for examine true for pakistan what is it is it that the u.s. doesn't understand tribal societies or doesn't want to understand the war on terror as i see it based on my research of these for two societies is really a triangle you would call it the triangle of terror so you have the united states

at one point you have the central government at another point and the third point is tribal society and in the discussion so far we don't really hear about tribal society so very often it's the united states and the central government in alliance against al qaida or the militants and that's all what we don't realize is going on in this very important point that these terrorists are coming out of societies which have nothing to do with supporting them in fact they're the victims out of their being killed by the drones they're being killed by their own armies their own central government armies looking for terrorists and they're being blown up by this was bombers themselves in their own society there's violence a young children are not able to sleep at night the. they complain about the drawn this is buzzing overhead all the time the neurotic and anxious to be americans you ask the question what the why and the americans getting it i really think americans don't understand tribal society tribal society lies underneath the vast number of

muslim populations right across from oracle into the middle east and up into the caucasus so the code of honor of these tribes. quarter one over a range on a hospitality all these are very important in defining that society not so much as more the tribal code and there you have a very interesting dynamic a kind of internal dench and which hasn't been resolved after centuries also that pakistan the government there condemns us strikes in very strong terms but at the same time allows them that kind of a two faced policy is it sustainable it is not and i mention this in the book i have called a duplicate to play sitters and it is duplicitous because on the one hand they're telling the pakistani public we have nothing to do with this and we don't even know about it on the other hand they're allowing the americans to go ahead with the

drone strikes the prime minister of pakistan quoted him in the book told the american diplomats that i will object i'll go to parliament and i love ject i see this is a terrible thing an american shouldn't be doing this we condemn it for national on and so on but go ahead with it now the people of pakistan are not dumb or not stupid survey i understand the game but ultimately going you know to ask yourself does it help or nor does it help stability and peace in the in that area and does it help shake the men of violence and the answer is no it doesn't check the men of violence because the men of violence then say these drones are being operated by americans who are the enemy and the government is helping them we will now target all government institutions including schools then why isn't pakistan saying a real now i think a weak government i think we character all these perswade them that it's better to be tactful it's better to stay in power without being under any pressure it takes

a lot of courage to stand up to a superpower and say guys we may be your friends but you're messing it up and you're messing it up for us it takes a lot of courage afghanistan past twenty four. thing is it going to move back to the rule of tribes that's a very important question and as someone who has lived there and worked there and worked with the tribes of the sun is going to face a lot of challenges both internally and reasonably but you're saying that the structure of their society is tribal so maybe it is like a natural way for them to go back to their tribal and that's a great question because as an anthropologist i would say yes straightaway but don't forget what's happened in afghanistan first the soviet invasion of the one nine hundred eighty s. disruption of their tribal structure the chiefs the elders the religious structure all disrupted the central government the king of oneness and all disrupted so you

have a tribal society in a state of disruption then the one nine hundred ninety s. with the taliban more destruction then you have nine eleven and the american invasion more disruption so three decades later that tribal society which you're talking about really is very very different and you have mutations of the tribal code mutations of islam and from those mutations you see violence violence why thank you thank you again. was built on coal. fuel for its factories. coke for its steel. coal is it more than heat for its people. join me james brown to

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