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to live on one hundred thirty three bucks a month for food i should try it because you know how fabulous i'm glad i got so many i mean. i know that i've seen the teams really messed up. and we're all very sort of personally apologize and. worse for going through the white house or the. radio guy for minestrone. what. we're about to give you never seen anything like this i'm told. what's good folks. this is breaking the set the world is police have arrested
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a second suspect in connection with the mother's day parade shooting in new orleans seventh ward last weekend doesn't ring a bell maybe it's because the corporate media has largely ignored the event a man was caught on camera shooting indiscriminately into a crowded parade nineteen people were shot including two ten year olds and the shooter was at large for a week so where was the media's round the clock coverage from the scene of the crime where was the police state where was homeland security in the f.b.i. where were the tanks and swat teams keeping people in their homes until they caught the guy oh wait i forgot we're talking about the inner city they don't have terrorism they have gang violence so yes this is where the disconnect lives when people are shot in the middle class suburbia it's national headlines but when it comes to violence in new orleans or the south side of chicago well that's just the way it is in the inner city we know what that's got to change and that's why we're breaking the set. of the large number of interviews of you never seen anything like the trouble.
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this week's barrage of political scandals is a stark reminder of how in line the us political establishment really is the political bickering that we think creates divisiveness only serves as an illusion of choice between the two dominant parties of this country however more and more americans are turning to alternatives real choices beyond the two party paradigm earlier this month we were joined by former us presidential candidate gary johnson to talk about how the challenge of this two party dictatorship and how libertarian values are more prevalent than you think take a look. i need to use the word tolerant because that somehow implies that i don't agree with your lifestyle i really don't care what you do with your life as long as it doesn't adversely affect mine and if you're going to do harm to me then that's where government has you know it seemed this is this is the problem that it seems like a lot of people agree with that basic premise they do but they still to infer to voting for either democrats or republicans i want to show you this gallup poll showing that a majority of people want rational term and that's and they want to completely end
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the electoral college and gary do you think that alecto reform is needed first before third parties can really have a chance you know he or here's how i think third parties could really have a chance and that would be that if you're on the ballot in anough states to win the presidential elections there should be a requirement that you're in the polls in the polls just in the polls to determine who gets in the presidential debates is that asking too much if you have the opportunity to win so in this case that would have been myself joel stein obama romney that would have appeared in the polls not in the debates let but let the polls decide whether or not candidate gets in the debates or not but just in the polls what do you think about that all right i think that that would be great but we can't really rely on the media to do that ok so we have to take these up of upon ourselves and no no i agree this but this could be a legislative you know when it comes to reform. and how you may break
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that although i agree i mean the marginalization of these candidates is really a huge factor in people not really paying attention and well not in the polls when you're not in the polls you're do you don't even know exists exactly right over the last five years we've seen a couple of grassroots movements for occupy wall street the organic tea party movement i'm not talking at the co-opted tea party by fox news and the extreme g.o.p. how did you kind of occupy wall street to that it got co-opted in this you argue that it was very mechanized i mean you could koch brothers front groups was really involved and the glenn beck i mean we don't really have a glenn back for occupy wall street on mainstream media do we. give it any way i think it was coopted i think both both but i guess both movements had a green arrow did you feel when the message of the movement was that was generated by ron paul in this following it was co-opted and kind of the messages they looted
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and kind of lost sight on those unifying factor is a lot of people who are attracted to it well the so what god lost in this kind of the republican party to the republican party i believe lost because of their social conservative agenda and i think bottom line that is why they lost marriage equality immigration. right to choose i think those issues really did in the republican party and the republican and by the way for anybody that's a social conservative lead your life by example that's how you change others but if you want to make that government policy i think what you end up is you end up criminalizing activity that otherwise wouldn't be criminalized and it doesn't work well you would you and correct me if i'm wrong but you would support having states decide what those social conservative policies or whatever and no i think it's punting myself when it comes to marriage equality i think that's a constitutionally guaranteed right on par with civil rights when it comes to
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immigration look let's not. when it comes to will. right to choose i fundamentally believe that is difficult a decision as. an unwanted pregnancy is that that decision lies with the woman involved period but that's where that that lies drug drug reform for those republicans that call themselves libertarians that's her way of punting is to say leave it to the states they don't want to address the issues that really are civil liberties issues well i think that's really important you just said that i think that people who do not address gay marriage as a civil right is really losing sight of what civil liberties really mean and the rights that are given to us all and then the federal government having a fundamental role to. it here by the u.s. constitution due process i mean that kind of sums up you know the patriot act the patriot act throws out due process but i think that's why a lot of people were so disenchanted with materialism for people who say let the
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states decide because i would hate to see so many states banning gay marriage but you know what libertarians don't shy away from leaving it to the states libertarians say here's my philosophy look i am more liberal than the most liberal democrat when it comes to social issues i'm more conservative than any republican when it comes to dollars and cents we need to balance the federal budget now or we're going to find ourselves with no government services we're going to find ourselves in a monetary collapse well let's talk about the koch brothers speaking of people who kind of have taken that philosophy and really to the extreme i mean they had their front groups are instrumental in cooption of the tea party and as a libertarian do you disagree in any way with the way that these brothers have been optimized information influence and industry you know i do not know the koch brothers but what i know of the koch brothers the brother says they started up the cato institute and and. david koch ran as a vice presidential candidate for the libertarian party so i think they absolutely
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have libertarian roots. but still even though the cato institute you could argue have done some things there that are you know in the vein of civil liberties and and good on some foreign policy issues i mean you can argue that they've they're there you can find a buyer at the l.a. times chicago tribune i mean these are things that are i think that's good for billionaire brother venture capitalist to be buying up media everywhere and you know from my viewpoint the koch brothers really are all about free markets all about free markets they're all about civil liberties they're they're all about they're but all of that driven. by the you know i do believe i do believe that well let's talk about the free market i mean would you support legislation like reinstating legislation like glass steagall and if not how do you prevent monopolies from forming or do you think that that's no not a good idea i do think about those things and i think glass steagall would be something you know looking at it. it seems like
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a common sense thing to do but i will tell you that even the most common sense solutions and the having unintended consequences and now i'm talking about. the fact that mark to market accounting was was brought about. and i'm forgetting i'm forgetting the piece of legislation. but as a result of enron mark to market accounting was legislation that passed that seemed like the most practical thing in the world to do and yet that was a direct contributor to the collapse in two thousand and eight because of. because of securities having to be marked at five cents on the dollar because there was one trade at the end of december for hundreds of thousands of dollars in a multi-trillion dollar market for five cents on the dollar and now all assets have to be. have to be graded at five cents as opposed to a dollar and that was the that was the entire meltdown of two thousand and eight
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all banks were insolvent still though the concept of monopolies not just with banks that. i think with anything on the how do you prevent these from for me because it's not just the inevitability of having the reminder i know you're back to glass steagall and the fact that yes on the surface that that does make sense that we should separate investment banking from banking ok well let's talk about what point in the free market is oversight needed because when you have a lack of it you see such tragedies as the west texas explosion in the in the fertilizer factory and also the b.p. oil rig exploded i mean where do you draw the line well well first of all you're drawing a line between financial and you're drawing a line between health and safety are now moving on to health and safety and every market no gun deregulation all government has a role to protect you and i again state individuals groups corporations foreign governments that would do us harm so in that context the workplace needs to be safe and our individual workers are going to be able to accomplish that or is that
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a role of government pat passing that sort of legislation and then following up look i think government. i think the fertilizer example is a bad example because it's my understanding that the fertilizer company had been cited on a number of occasions prior to this happening so this seems to be a breakdown i haven't studied it i haven't looked at it but it it doesn't seem to be a breakdown of legislation if you will or oversight it has to do with enforcement or why why was why were they cited for issues that may have been a direct result of this explosion osha's grossly underfunded and understaffed as well but let's talk really quickly about your new initiative our america initiative and it's not new and this is well it's been in existence. well for years ok so
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your recent initiative and what is it about and how can you get people out of the mindset of that two party dictatorship i don't think anybody is out there providing a voice for what i think the majority of americans believe the notion of being fiscally responsible socially accepting well ok it's one thing to have that philosophy but where is the voice for that philosophy i'm trying i am trying to provide that voice our america initiative is the vehicle for my being able to do that well certainly there's a lot of things about libertarianism that are very attractive and i thank you for coming on and. we all gary and john know that former presidential candidate libertarian party honorary chairman our american initiative. our guys stick around because we'll be right back. len. is it possible to navigate the economy with all the details such as sticks and
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leg. i i folks it seems the corporate media these days is more concerned with pumping out sensationalism and mindless commentary than providing real news real philosophy philosophical thought has been replaced with a race between corporations who want to be the first to speculate that's why today i want to look back and an interview with one of the few true philosophers remaining in america dr cornel west dr west joined us last month to discuss class race war corporate greed and more so take a look. in from oakland to d.c. hearing so much racist comments about how oakland has a lot of crime because it's predominately african-american i mean you're looking at things like stop and frisk obviously these institutionalized policies of racism of
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over police seen african-american. areas of the cities i mean of course that's what's going to happen is you're going to have a disproportionate representation of these minorities in prisons and it can i can't help but think reckon back again to martin luther king i mean last week was the forty fifth anniversary of his assassination and. that's the i'm sure you're aware forty five years dr west and people are i don't know whether it's something in in all i would think thirteen percent of black youth addicted to drugs thirty was it a way to use addicted to drugs sixty five percent of convictions that america are black if you want to deal with criminality or a wall street look at insider trading market manipulation fraudulent accounting why is it not one executive of wall street firm has been investigated and prosecuted many of them a dining in a white house but actually involved in an activity that is quite criminal and is not a matter of trashing wall street human beings are human beings let's have
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a fair rule of law not to preach is an arbitrary for the poor targeting the poor and allowing the well to do to somehow get off that's true. wiretap hours that's true for torture than the bush administration while they walk around sipping tea when they violated the law analyst me up very honestly but as you noted i've accused the president himself of being a war criminal in terms of the killer lists every tuesday and gazed at activities that result in the death of innocent civilians especially children those a war crimes or war crimes if they're committed by americans russians ethiopians argentina and guatemalans africans these are the other forms of activity of people ought to be accountable but dr west we live in a two tiered justice system where the war criminals are not prosecuted or even investigated and instead of war crimes whistleblowers the people who expose your crimes are in prison it's a completely agree just system and it's amazing that more people don't point this
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out as poor people are the ones suffering on the other end of it i mean i'm sure you're aware of even the civil case launched by the martin luther king family martin luther king jr family that implicated the u.s. government in part for conspiracy for his assassination i mean why is it that ten years on this notion is so foreign to people still scoffed at as nothing more than a conspiracy theory when at the time subject to years of cointelpro surveillance death threats i mean this is coming this is this are all declassified documents though is true of many of course if you had read them on notice of the end of january nine hundred fifty six to the day before the one nine hundred sixty eight that was a u.s. government it was j.f.k. that was our if it was johnson all the way through but i think for example of what the assistant just margetts that you know here's someone who called nelson mandela a terrorist called a n c a terrorist group here's somebody who said trade union is in england are the enemy with him they must be crushed and yet what do we hear from
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the white house margaret that there was a great champion of freedom us a tale that allows i pray for a family i'm a christian but she was a tyrant when it came. to black people in south africa she was a tyrant when it came to working people in britain let's just tell the truth about ideas so as to whether she's alive whether she did because these people are deified like reagan i mean he's hailed as this economic here her i really was just amazed and i mean in their death we should be telling the truth that's not sugarcoat what the legacy of these people are filthy is. when reagan talks about the repression of jews in russia for example we all now say he was right that's fine but when he engages in the marginalizing of black people and poor people in america somehow that's irrelevant we don't want to talk about it we only want to talk about him a defender of freedom communism what a soviet union would say no wait a minute let's be truthful across the board every person pressures whether they're
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russia united states in a way all dr westen you're asking people to be truthful across the board it forces them to face their own biases their own prejudice it's very difficult to do that and let's talk about occupy wall street you were actually arrested at one instance you were a fervent supporter of it i mean occupy wall street you're looking at what happened brutally suppressed by militarized police federalized crackdowns across the border what do you tell people who are scared to protest because they're worried that they'll get arrested or just simply surveilled in the massive surveillance that exists today. well one i was blessed to go to jail because i was willing to bear witness and deal with the consequences i would do it again but there's no doubt that the increasing repression is an attempt to create a culture not just of sides but a culture of fear especially for the younger generation to intimidate them to make sure they're so afraid that not willing to step out bear witness in public and have to deal with the consequences of of civil disobedience we just simply have to have
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more courage that would we're dealing now with a much more autocratic and authoritarian state and you have to be more courageous he has been more. courageous to tell the truth you have to be more willing to deal with the costs and in some of the simply have to divide it so. yeah i mean the chilling effect is what they're counting on dr weldon and we can't let that when we cannot figure out when that's exactly right and of course occupy wall street rooted and anti corporatism a lot of people who look at the form of capitalism are living under today and they say it's not true capitalism it's crony capitalism and capitalism is the only answer what's your response. i say one we have to acknowledge that the variety of different kinds of capitalism there are vampire vulture capitalism that adjusts survival of the slick is in the gut sweden where you have a much more. softer capitalism where the poverty rate is two or three percent and the children see high quality education but i think generally speaking capitalism
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as a system. the quest for profits what it asymmetric relation of power between bosses and workers it's very logic tied to profits with how rocky's at the workplace very logic tends to lead for for the most part. wealth inequality that in the end is usually unjustified and so i tend to be a critic of capitalism across the board just like i'm a critic of imperialism white supremacy male supremacy as if it is a. muslim sensibility and i'm very suspicious actually of various forms of nationalism that tend to be chauvinist pig that think that somehow only human being within borders has value and those outside have no value with much less value but because we live in a moment in which capitalism is so ubiquitous it is so head demonic it is leading for its own internal collapse there's no doubt about that given the ecological
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catastrophe but we've still got a way to go and we still have to fight day in and day out even when the reforms are not enough the reforms do make a difference. every individual ought to be viewed as being precious but i think in the end we're going to meet the fundamental transformation of the catalyst an imperialist world yes i definitely think thinking of states as just nation states and not extending empathy across nation states is one of the biggest it turns toward world peace and also this global empathy and global consciousness but not i mean capitalism and peerless and seem to go hand in hand where you have the global had your man now encroaching on the last remaining independent states that are bucking the world system and crushing them and and trying to destabilize them and it worries me because and what i want to get your opinion on is it is a system of conscious capitalism where the free markets harmonize with the planet instead of concentrating wealth very narrowly is this attainable. well i mean we've
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got to believe that either it is over it's a regular old is worth fighting and dying for oil might be of course that the species as a whole just doesn't possess the moral and intellectual capacities to sustain itself on the globe given the levels of greed and envy and resentment but especially the power at the top that could be a possibility that takes us to our this is it takes us to check off that takes us to john coltrane and toni morrison and others but in the end we have to believe that we can make a difference and therefore capitalism ought to be not just criticised but we still ought to fight to fundamentally transform it but this is true for patriarchy this is true for homophobia is true for white supremacy is true for all of these various systems that lose sight of the humanity of other people and will die of struggling for these causes dr west and. passed it on to the younger generation.
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does that mean you're right i mean we you know i wouldn't be doing what i'm doing you wouldn't be doing what you're doing if we didn't have faith that humanity could turn this around that we could really come up on top. and win over this global struggle and i wanted to actually mention a podcast that you just had with dr ron paul congressman ron paul which really does showcase how there's a lot that libertarians and leftists can agree on we can unite on a lot of things against the establishment instead of having such a fragmented opposition how can we focus more on this unification. what are going to be a number of different coalitions and coming together that will surprise people that brother ron paul and brother rand paul i come together with in terms of their defense of rights and liberties. drones has been the focus of the thirteen hour filibuster brother rand paul thought it was wonderful i wish that he had talked about non americans as well as americans would at least the issue receive a certain publicized invisibility when it comes to ron paul and we have come
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together with him and his powerful rejection of the patriotic at his powerful rejects in the national defense authorization act with the president has the right to detain american citizens without due process without a trial without any judicial process whatsoever that's the signs of an authoritarian state of course the problem is my libertarian by the so this is they are very sensitive to highly concentrated forms of power when it comes to the government but they don't talk about the how they concentrated form the power when it comes to corporations the big banks oligarchs and plutocrats seems to me we have to have with the great jane also to call constancy we have to have more consistency we ought to be critical of highly concentrated forms of power wherever we find it because that that kind of power is usually subject to chronic abuse and it effects each and every human being no matter where they are and and dr west knowing this i mean taking all of this into account i mean the corporate takeover of government is
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clearly more apparent than ever before any quality is greater than ever before what is the solution i guess is that it's to keep fighting within the system that we have an outside. this isn't that we haven't kind of can join in the radical faction and the establishment faction and really try to make a difference i mean do you recommend a complete overhaul ideally. what i think we have to be jazz like then the jazz. no you have to be flexible in fluid you have to fight on the outside bring pressure to bear do you have to fight with some progressive inside as evan soul is sold and so thoroughly co-opted by position and wealth and put and power that they no longer want to tell the truth there's some bernie sanders and others on the inside who want to tell the truth about corporate power we need organizations movements on the outside bring in pressure to bear in the end we do need a fundamental transformation is no there's no doubt about that but we've got a long way to go in that regard the first moment is one of social. motions and then you've got social momentum and we can generate social movements then we've got
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something absolutely i can't see lobbyists stopping driving on the hill any time soon i definitely agree that we do need a fundamental transition and overhaul of the current system that we have dr cornel west activist author professor amazing to have you on thank you so much these strong mind this is. if you like what you see head to our facebook page at facebook dot com slash breaking the said be sure to do with thousands of already done give us a like will be updating our status daily there with links and past as well as reaching out to you for ideas on what you want to see covered in the set you can also check out our behind the scenes photos that we take our studios or when breaking the set is on on the road like this photo the obvious nap during her exclusive interview with the one and only noam chomsky so we'll head to our facebook page and check all that and more but that's it for today guys be sure to join us next week for exclusive interview with dr and a whole lot more peace. they're
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