you get about one hundred needles in there is going to leave a mark that's what i'm sure i've been in studies where we had one hundred sticks in like fourteen days that's a lot more traffic i think going through my veins i mean that's what i'm being paid to do being paid to be approached prodded. tested and if i don't want to do that i won't be here doing it i have to believe that i'm doing something to help out society i could be saving the lives of many people but do i really believe that. it's hard. when the scare. friday was robert helms and i am a professional guinea there's a take take relationship between me and the pharmaceutical companies my name is robert helms and i am a professional going to they need bodies to do the testing and i need money. so

no i don't have any moral qualms my name is robert helms and i'm a professional in the real robert combs makes his living as a human guinea pig for scientific explain you're a guinea pig you have to fit the description they're looking for you have to be drug free and you have to pass a medical screening and the only way to consistently do that over and over is to lie. tell the truth. if you say you've got anything wrong in your medical history you're going to be less likely to get the job than the next guy in line who's very consistently line three it did something happen to you when that made you want to do something like this the doctor who examines you knows that you're lying but when i lie to them i'm only lying so i can get work which is a neat ok number two how much do you make the doing something like this to something like three hundred fifty a day now how that plays into determine whether the drug is safe and effective

that's not my work number two or three it's time to find out which one of our players is the real human guinea pig will the real robert helms please stand up. if i'm lying i'm lying for pennies this is not a mansion you're looking at here this is a rented room where i am my cats live. when they lie they're lying so they can make billions of dollars over the course of many years while they have the patent on the drug they have an agenda to prescribe these drugs to as many people as possible that's their agenda inside your body they want to make money and they have to use healthy guinea pigs in the regular society they're not able to use prisoners any more they wish they could.

visit holmesburg prison here this is who has served time in one thousand nine hundred sixty four one thousand nine hundred sixty six i was in for sales of marijuana this is my first time man i'm scared you know twenty years old when i first got in there i seen all these inmates walking around with bandages all over the bodies i found out these gases on tests from the university of pennsylvania on the dock to alba cleaning and it starts they were mine to test as you know like

a johnson and johnson bubble bath to it and at that time it was paying some like thirty some doubt so they put people in it but it wasn't a bubble bath people was crooked and have police break this stuff on my back it had all these big chemicals in it that went to my bloodstream i stop breaking out but these little red pus to the bumps all over the lot bloody my hands and feet that be one thing that was not fair just stuff here on my thing is they're constantly it's burning i scratch them to they bleed i have prostate cancer they do it to roll with it off the right and hepatitis c. . bubble bath does this to somebody in. the clique and didn't look at us as human beings he looked at us as a commodity or number or skin to experiment on you know still not guinea pigs now i got on all the tests taking pills to take seven tills three times a day but they did it up on me he had read my test. and they'd

taken me in the back of home and butch they butchered me back to this man was something that should have never been you don't terminate us that's part of your life missing that's a penalty and. i'm damaged i'm damaged goods from getting into things blind me not knowing what i was really doing to myself that name knew they knew they knew exactly did it because her to believe that the test to say you can destroy your life taken stop you system is going to come back to haunt you me you know and national way like if you know. let's get out and. get really i got to get up in the morning go to the clinic.

follow their legs. dan i always like dentists thank you very very. much. and i. contribute to this mental illness. i wish he had. and this was his college graduation in two thousand. and a birthday card that he made for me i think he was probably about

seven he says everybody is smiling but no everybody who's not smiling any minor. in became ill and how i got him into fairview riverside hospital in minneapolis in november of two thousand and three. and within a few days he was put into a clinical study that was run by his attending physician dr stephen seals and he was his attending physician and also the principal investigator in the clinical study it's an obvious conflict of interest dan and the chinese to be

they're going into the study are going into a mental hospital he chose to study. that girl soon had control of her downs freedom he was taken out of his treatment medication and put on the study medication which turned out to be a circle and these clinical studies are marketing ploys for the pharmaceutical companies some drugs that were approved over a dozen years ago and should no longer have to be studied i had no one else to turn to you know we had tried for everyone to help us because jan was of legal age i had no way of getting him out of the study. other than pleading with the doctors to let him out which they would not it was obvious he was deteriorating by his demeanor he was losing

a lot of weight and he was gaunt and he felt he was being plagued by devils he was. psychotic i told dr wilson i know my son i said i see this in a rage please don't let it come boiling out which it did and i can still remember father ohio saying that your son passed away. i remember thinking oh how ridiculous no he didn't pass away he was killed. he didn't pass away they let him die. and. they need to be held accountable.

you know i got. i was a former drug rep who helped shape his old watch marketplace which was the s.s.r.i. marketplace in the early ninety's it was a blockbuster market it was huge i mean every drug in that market did over the in dollars prozac paxil zoloft select lexapro so i've been tracking that market for a couple of decades on and off years ago i met a psychiatrist who got consulted at the zoo to treat a particular young but no boast chimp who was injuring himself and it got to a point where it was almost a matter of life and death so that's why they called in the psychiatrist they

wanted him for a prescription they wanted a psychiatric medication beyond what they normally use so he wrote a script for paxil to reduce his anxiety to help with the o.c.d. behavior the young male chimp stopped hurting himself lost his anxiety was resold he's part of the troop he's in line to be an hour from hell at some point so you could say it's an incredible success story but it was how he envisioned paxil being used in his human patients medication plus psychodynamic intervention he was able to do it with the bonneau both. i think. it was.

you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else and you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm tom harpur welcome to the big picture.

the. it's it's easy to see you know we're a world on drugs and specifically we're becoming a world on psychiatric medication i mean that's. indisputable even if you look at primates in institutions human in apes they develop certain psychopath ologies that are fairy common i mean if you go across the street here there is

a county run mental facility with human primates on a lot of medications but there's interesting differences are trying to get everyone out of that institution on heavy duty trucks and poly pharmacy and they don't have a lot of success many times people end up there because they want to be institutionalized they don't want to be dns to touche lies at that particular moment they're scared they're frightened they have no social support they don't know how to take care of themselves they realize that their psychiatric symptoms are overwhelming them but the whole push at those institutions is to get a medicated short term stay pharma mouth they have people checking in on them but not a lot of socialists not a lot of care of our pharmaceuticals maybe cash to survive in our economy and then you come across the street with your great apes and if they have psychological issues or psychiatric problems they're addressed immediately it's a fine tuned approach they incorporate the same psychiatric methodology and

psychiatric thinking and styles of care and they opt in and get the right results with in an institutional setting. one who has. the big phonies and the and and i have lived here for. almost since the day the printers i had some experiences with and. if you actually knew who to. i love my man but gosh darn it i want a little freaked from people. so it's.

definitely a big put their lives in people's minds really differences between what goes on in your mind and what goes on reality i don't think we've got that all figured out yet . my brain is a beast i am severely bipolar they call it bipolar rapid cycling borderline schizophrenia bipolar disorder creates a noise in your brain that is constant voices come from this way and voices come from that way and it's really like being possessed by satan the nuances of mental illness require the nuances of different medications to turn down the mania because when i go off manic it is true or need.

this is sarah quo extended release. i take at night this is depakote which i take trys to j. abilify which oppression duke has said sodium so i can poop new video ambien zimm ball to sim that has a pam lortab zoloft seroquel extended release again aspirin and just marijuana. so that's it. how many actual pills do i take a day about twenty or more. this is the healthiest i have been ever both mentally and physically they drugs are doing their thing. and they're working.

it's rare that i give in to any decided thinks all the lanthorn everything. from iowa city iowa. was born and raised here. joining the i would actually guard when i was seventeen years old as a medic with the one i have medical company. i figured you know if i'm the medic i'm probably not going to fighting people you know i'm going to be helping people.

i was really into everything that the bush administration was putting out there and . two days effort and seventeen. i joined the national guard is it seriously if they could join and i'd say it's go time. i found out right before i left i was going to be stationed a great president. i never in my life thought i would work in a prison facility especially not one that was mentors for abuse and torture. i was so young when i was there so afraid and i wanted to get home so badly that i just tried to do it i was ordered to do and i guess just deal with it when i go home and it's been pretty rough.

i knew i had a problem when i got home running relationships getting into legal trouble and i knew i was drinking the tragic forget things that happens and i showed up at the v.a. made an appointment and they smear p.t.s.d. and put me on so often hydroxyzine that they. have to hear i was taken to hear the v.a. has these contracts with certain pharmaceutical companies and if there's a medication that can help you or you maybe save your life you might not get that medications to them they use other medications for uses that they're really intended for just because they don't have as big a selection if i saw normal diet here right now if insurance i could afford it you think i would have to deal with this crap and having to pick from. this selection who they have their deals with. i really don't know what's working.

so the hospital most of us the man raised nightmares every say and i wake up sweating. terry explain to people that at a certain point in time you have such extreme anxiety that you don't even know what to do your pacing or frying your story. so it just becomes overwhelming for friends and family members and it is feel you've given so much yourself and got so little in return except for all these problems.

i don't need medication i need help. i need somebody to listen to me talk to me if they want to give me medication diminutives in the works. i'm writing this book it's called tales from the script and it's kind of just assessing in the last twenty years of how the industry gets doctors to write prescriptions it's sort of a simple question but i think it's complex which is there to unravel it and i do i do this chapter i talk about well what anthropologists do is a lot like what drug reps do you know we have to do reconnaissance we have to build relationships all for different reasons you know one is for to gain knowledge and insight to help people hopefully and then and the other you know it's to make a buck. from a drug that's going to have to go with the scripts are being written and they're

going to be written in this building in this is where they happen to keep their samples and they come in and assess this is my product i'm going to get this one nice and high and i'm going to put my competition i told her here see put it down there and i just threw it in the corner depending on the amount it was and then i put my samples off right here that's probably going to stay there for a while until maybe my competition comes in the pfizer rep was here it could just pack up your way to get things back that only is a little games you play it it's an erotic drug reps them at the same time i'm sending anonymous mailers on zoloft whether approved or unapproved i'm leaving it off cards everywhere what i'm trying to do is over like a three month period make sort of kind of make it seem like it's naturally occurring as off as a big deal this off is the new drug to be using i think many reps know that doctors think about what they do in terms of cases so if you can get a physician talking about a case they start to sell themselves let's say dr w. comes up to me and say how so i forget for he says it's going to say use it for

depression in your patients of course as indicated for depression and so using anywhere else no i've done nothing illegal. now let's say by chance that debbie says well you know i do use it for some patients with panic disorder that's an off label use of the drug i say well i got your signature for samples would you like some clinical information on what you just told me you were using saw for sure in officially i can put his name in the computer our medical department consider all these articles on using zoloft for panic disorder which at the times you legal i never did one thing wrong i didn't mention it for off label i didn't do anything i just asked them you know some questions that was legal and that's what we're trying to do you know at least that's the way i did it the times done your next call. that i might be left out here sometimes there is. this is a pharmaceutical rep who's here probably yes. yes or and that's ok

so they don't talk to anybody. and she was terrified i felt for in a way i actually felt sorry for a child perhaps because they'd been trying to cast just a problem there sort of the mediator between medicine and the market in the sad thing for reps is they were told over and over there delivering a message of good clinical signs. and i think i spent a lot more time in the system than most people would have. i was adopted by american parents and i thought of behavioral issues and ended up in a group. really want to go to six years i think any kid could have

a problem. but what's done is done there's all my childhood stuff it's this box here stuff i hang on to. that way photographs. being in a court of a research study with pretty much no difference i've been in a group you have about a structure you're told what to do when to do it. when i'm not in the study i'm into territory that i'm not comfortable you know i feel lost half the time.

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