threatening taliban ok and should pakistanis say were and will the military continue to watch the sidewalks. to live on one hundred thirty three bucks a month for food i should try it because you know how fabulous bad luck i've got so many i mean it's a challenge i know that i'm seeing the same really messed up. the old story so personally apologize it's a little worse you're going to go oh my house or the radio guy minestrone probably want to close for a power trip did you ever seen anything like this i'm told. what's up guys i'm having martin welcome to breaking the set i just got back from boston where i had the opportunity to sit down with one of america's greatest minds

noam chomsky but before we get into that interview i wanted to point out something and foreign that dr chomsky wrote recently i really puts the boston tragedy in a perspective in his op ed chomsky reminded all americans that these bombings gave us just a taste of the terrorism the u.s. inflicts a broad every day he writes it's rare for privileged westerners to see graphically what many others experience daily for example a remote village in yemen the same week as the marathon bombings chomsky's referring to the drone strikes in yemen near days after the boston bombings an attack that claimed the lives of five people in the u.s. claimed were suspected al qaeda militants of course later we learned that wasn't the case and in fact one yemeni far ryall muesli name went before a senate subcommittee hearing to counter that very claim. a man named i mean that he was the target of the strike many people and we know about them many governments

could have found and that is. yes even though the targeted farmer could have easily been arrested by local authorities the u.s. use their go to weapon a predator drone but that's all part of what chomsky calls obama's global terror operations in which the president attempts to remove anyone that could simply could pose a danger to america some day in the future and it wasn't just yemen the very same day of the attack in boston various bomb blast killed more than thirty people in iraq all injuring hundreds of others unfortunately that bloodshed which began in april is still escalating by the day and fact just hours ago iraq experience yet another wave of attacks leaving ninety five dead there by pushing the country's death tolls for more than two hundred forty people just this past week you see what chomsky points out is something that should not be ignored what happened in boston should always be looked at in the prism of all the other violence being inflicted

around the world particularly when that violence is a direct result of u.s. foreign policy because when you weigh one tragedy of the other you lose sight of the implications of this war on terror really has on humanity and as much as i'd like to believe this baseless war will one day end reality constantly reminds me that it won't just this past week the senate armed services committee held a hearing on whether the statutory basis for the war should be expanded michael shannon the assistant secretary of defense for special ops was asked point blank how long the war on terrorism is going to last and he responded in the most simple of terms at least at least ten to twenty years ten to twenty years from now and there you have it folks explicitly said that this government has signed up for at least another thirty years of war and sadly that means more violence

more bloodshed and yes more blowback if you find this is the stir being as i do join me now to break the set. how much do you know about malcolm x. man whose name alone can still invoke deep rooted emotions about class race unity and segregation even forty eight years after his death may nineteenth would have been his eighty eighth birthday it's a day that's been declared malcolm x. day by a number of black organizations in this country which is why i want to take the opportunity to look at the legacy of one of the most controversial civil rights figures of the twentieth century before his assassination in one thousand nine hundred sixty five malcolm x. founded the organization of afro-american unity and when it opened he gave a famous speech in which he said quote education is an important element in the

struggle human rights it's the means to help our children and our people rediscover their identity and thereby increase their self-respect educations our passport to the future for tomorrow belongs only to the people who prepare for today in a nutshell this was his message it was a culmination of years before you figure out his own identity reinventing himself from malcolm little of omaha nebraska to a young hustler known as detroit red to joining the nation of islam taking on the name a lot. indeed discussion about the nation of islam movement goes hand in hand with the memory of malcolm x. it's a movement that promoted black self-reliance and equality separate from white americans and europeans and although some radical factions of the movement were violent it's a rony as to say that malcolm x. himself promoted violence without understanding the true context of his beliefs and interview just weeks before his assassination and i'll come back articulated his

misunderstood philosophy take a look. in any way encourage black people. i go out and mission eight x. aggression indiscriminately against whites but i do believe that a black man in the united states in any human being anywhere is well within his right to do whatever is necessary by any means necessary to protect his life and property especially in a in a country where the federal government itself has proven that it is either. able or unwilling to protect the lives and property of those human beings yes rights for everyone this fight may have been the black struggle but his message was universal a message that transcends his time in fact his most famous quote has never been more relevant than it is today or he said i'm for truth no matter who tells it i'm for justice no matter who it is for or against i'm a human being first and foremost and as of such i'm for whoever and whatever

benefits humanity as a whole. you may remember these images of photos of the two boston bombing suspects that were captured with the help of a department store camera but they were taken by a private business police officials were easily able to access that footage in order to jumpstart their investigation and now in the aftermath the city of boston and police departments around the country are considering boosting their surveillance all in the effort to provide americans more safety but do more cameras mean more protection we're going to set a mirror david has a story. this is boylston street home to such landmarks as the boston common and copley square. but now it's home to one more

fixture a memorial commemorating the three people who died and two hundred sixty four injured in two bombings that struck the city just one month ago. and as the mourning process continues for the city of boston many are now reflecting and expressing concerns for safety and security going forward do you think we need more security and surveillance going forward in the wake of the boston bombing yeah obviously i mean i mean i should this security cameras we had i mean they did a good job on the people who did it you know and i mean so more can only help more definitely well you can't have too many security cameras but they were caught on camera obviously what we're living in now you're looking at this you know we need security so more cameras more everything it's a call for more surveillance cameras much like the one place to here at morgan taylor which authorities say was instrumental in identifying the boston bombing suspects but it's not just this city it's a sentiment that's quickly gaining traction across the country according to

a recent c.b.s. news new york times poll seventy eight percent of americans support the increased use of surveillance cameras and now police departments in multiple cities are looking to do just that philadelphia chicago and l.a. have all made a recent push to install more cameras and regularly tap into the security footage of private businesses however boston is planning to take it one step further. officials say they will look to the n.y.p.d. for ideas a police department that has a thousand officers dedicated to counterterrorism efforts alone and they say they'll look to emulate new york's expansive surveillance network often referred to as the ring of steel boasting more than four thousand security cameras but that's not all boston police commissioner ed davis says they'll consider using surveillance drones over next year's marathon it's a buildup that mimics what was seen in the aftermath of september eleventh in fact

i.m.s. research and electronic data aggregator as to means that thirty million surveillance cameras were sold in the u.s. in the decade after nine eleven but now with the prospect for increased security more and more civil liberty advocates are growing concerned the question that i think we should be asking. is how having more surveillance is really going to prevent a crime from happening if someone wants to do something wrong they always find a way to do it she says more cameras won't give us more protection but that it will mean less privacy are we really ok with the fog that. we are spike. all the time constantly or perhaps as a society we should take us they beg and to and if this is what that civilization really means how will this country reconcile more security with the protection of

civil liberties it's a question on the minds of many here in boston and far beyond a mere day that our team. for a guy's we're taking a quick break when we get back we'll take a closer look at the post marathon bombing police state in boston and your sneak peek from my one on one interview with noam chomsky states.

let me let me let me ask you a question. here. is what. we have our knives out. but if you feel this is a little surprising there's again you're in a situation where being i didn't read his heart about the surveillance me.

so guys i just got back from reporting in boston for the chance to gauge public sentiment in the wake of the bombings a little more than one month ago boston was rocked by two explosions at one of the most popular annual events in the city the boston marathon tragically a senseless act of violence claimed three lives and injured two hundred sixty four others in the days following the perpetrators and motives for the attack remain completely unknown yet the corporate media didn't hesitate to speculate wildly with twenty four seven on the ground coverage finally surveillance photos surfaced allegedly identifying two suspects assane of brothers what followed was the a largest manhunt this country has ever seen nine thousand law enforcement officers dawned in paramilitary gear were dispatched across the city dozens of swat

teams and bomb squads were deployed and entire sections of the city and surrounding areas were cordoned off for police activities armored vehicles and tanks were sent to patrol the streets of residential neighborhoods and militarized police officers moved door to door in the nearby city of watertown sometimes forcing entry into people's homes to search the premises being from d.c. and watching this all unfold from afar i had my own thoughts and questions about what happened and why but one some boston i wanted to see what people who lived through it thought about the overwhelming show of force in response to the bombings and here's what they had to say. you agree with the police response today to hunt down the surname brothers in the wake of the boston yes like you i really do i think they've been a really really good job i was i was amazed at how quickly everything came down i'm a student here i. definitely i think the place where it handled it very well i

think the police response was absolutely fantastic the way they came in they did very well they came in real fast it was like a movie they had to make a choice and. they went with it one thousand paramilitary troops in the street shutting down the city do you think that was an adequate response i think that's all they could do of course i mean it should have been done prior to that they should have been more security probably maybe next time they won't have to have nine thousand but i think the approach was right certainly was a studied approach did they come in and do the searches in your neighborhood we were a little bit away from but my brother was my brother's home was right in the neighborhood they did go into a church his home his backyard. they did a tremendous job and it seemed like we responded with overwhelming force and everybody did the job that they were supposed to do i mean obviously raises questions about. when and where we choose to show our force. raises questions

indeed i did any of this activity violate the constitutional rights of boston residents and is this something that's going to be used as a blueprint nationwide while i had the opportunity to talk to the executive director of the national lawyers guild of boston ursula about just that and this is what she had to say. and everyone in the guild feels that the response of the city to this tragedy was. beyond anything that we should accept as a society. during the whole week after the marathon bombing. the city felt almost like being under martial law and especially thursday evening and friday a we feel bad that martial law was imposed on the city without going through regular procedure. so in our opinion and

a search as that happened in that water town and locking down the city and getting people out of their homes very often a got gun point. we feel that all this was a necessary and violate the people's constitutional rights. you know it's interesting another point that she made is what happens if a legal drugs were found in a home during these door to door searches and what was found be used against innocent people where's the line drawn in a situation like this i completely understand the emotion of fear and what it can do to people and speaking directly to bostonians gave me more insight on their perspective however people die every day from senseless acts of violence and treat certain acts of violence with extreme disproportionality only feeds into that fear that fear breeds acquiescence in the relinquishing of our rights that our

forefathers spent thousands of years trying to achieve but perhaps the even bigger picture is this as horrifically tragic as the boston bombings were it was a relatively small attack in comparison something like nine eleven so right now is when we should ask ourselves if what we saw in response to bombs was that what was the response be in the wake of something bigger is that we will see martial law take effect across the country and more importantly will people just accept it entirely out of fear i shudder to think. a letter or a rubber sheet or anything like. i did. last week and i had the great opportunity to sit down for an in-depth interview with one of the most prolific philosophers of our jenner. dr noam chomsky

he's a linguistics and philosophy professor at mit where he's worked for over fifty years he's also political critic activist and author of over one hundred books amazingly he still holds office hours at mit that is scheduled for meetings every week a testament to how accessible chomsky is and sharing his viewpoints about the world with anyone who wishes to speak with him when i went into his office i couldn't help but notice the hundreds of stacked books plants and memorabilia he's collected from call the eggs and events he's participated in over the years the one thing that was missing on his desk amidst the papers and books was a computer kind of a rare sight these days for someone so immersed in research and information but perhaps the thing that stood out the most to me it was a large photo of an address to palestine but the return stamp reading no such address being eighty four years old dr chomsky is still as sharp as ever he was

able to maneuver between discussing everything from the war on terror to south vietnam and a concise and calm manner all won't join a cup of hot coffee and while tomorrow i'll be playing the full interview today i'd like to highlight just a few parts of it common theme throughout was the discussion of drones which he describes as weapons of terror. through the. boston bombing there was a drone strike in yemen. one of many but this one we have know because. the young man from the village that was tested for who in the senate a couple of days later described the it. was. interesting and relevant he said that his village which in iceland they were trying to kill somebody in his village they said the man was perfectly well because of that brand. he was. a drone strike is

a terror weapon we don't talk about it but it is just imagine if you're walking down the street and you don't know whether in five minutes. there's going to be a explosion across the street. from some place where this guy that you can't see and. somebody will be killed and whoever else is around will be killed and maybe you'll be you'll be injured if you're there that just as a terror weapon it terrorizes. religious regions huge areas affects them that most massive terror campaign going on long and what happened in the village is that according to the testimony senate testimony that he said that the jihadi had been trying for years to turn the villagers against the americans

and had not succeeded because the only thing they knew about america that was what he told them was. you're looked at here back to what it was like he said in one drone strike to turn the entire village against the americans. maybe a couple hundred new people who will call terrorists and take revenge. by highlighting this man's testimony chomsky articulate and glaring reality of blowback after all if all you know about a country is that they're raining bombs on you and your family how would you feel now for all the criticisms of the bush administration on issues of torture and illegal war chomsky actually express that obama is taking it one step further take a look. bush is technique was to. capture people and torture them. obama's improved you just kill them and anybody else around. it's not that his hands are tied he said i mean that's

a much more. it's bad enough to capture them and torture them but just. murder on executive whim and as i say it's not just murder and suspect there are weapons there are as everyone knows indeed murder on executive women is a way obama's avoided facing accountability and controversy even definitely detaining terror suspects according to his own drone architect and his ramping up of drone strikes raises the question over why so many of us here in america are unable or unwilling to empathize with the deaths of innocent people half a world away. in the case of your two when a drone attack in yemen killed a couple of little girls and there was a discussion with. a well known liberal columnist joe klein he writes for time he was asked what he thought of this and he said something like

. it's better that four of them are killed than for of four little girls who were. so because i mean the logic is mind boggling but if we have to kill people elsewhere who might conceivably. have him to harm us and it happens that a couple little girls get killed too that's fine we're entitled to do that i mean suppose any other any country is doing that or to any anyone we regard as human but it's. crucial. to truly as a standing to hear this type of rhetoric from public figures journalists and government officials it's no wonder americans are so isolated from the impacts of u.s. foreign policy around the world but that's just the latest exacerbation bush policies abroad dr chomsky also speaks out about the policies but profound implications for

everyone including those here in the u.s. as a plaintiff on the national defense authorization act or n.d.a. court case he discusses why a lesser known case holder of humanitarian law takes this concept of terrorism affiliation one step further. the humanitarian look for a new ground there was a concept of material support for terrorism already sort of a dubious concept because what's how to decide what's terrorism well that's an executive women again there's a terrorist list created by the executive branch without review without anybody having any right to contest it and if you look at that terrorist list it really tells you something so for example nelson mandela was on the terrorist list until three or four years ago and the reason it was the one nine hundred eighty eight

when the reagan administration was strongly supporting the apartheid regime in south africa in fact the over who. congressional legislation in order. to clear the the african national congress that was one of the more notorious terrorist groups in the world that's mandela that's 1980's. barely before apartheid. and he was just on the terrorist list to a bit. to take another case in the one nine hundred eighty two when iraqi invaded iran and the u.s. was supporting it right and one of the aid directly to saddam hussein was taken off the earth's list it's not a. good given that it's had a well it's you know it's its executive whim to begin with we should take it seriously but there was putting that material assistance meant you know you could

have a good person like that under the obama administration that say you give the. terrorism is completely subjective and this means that if you're simply in contact with anyone in this government deems to be a terrorist and you are terrorist by affiliation this alone has tremendous implications not just for journalists but for everyone now these are just a few of the extraordinary insights i was able to gain in my one on one interview there's a whole war a lot more to be said so be sure to tune in tomorrow for the for interview and watch dr chomsky break the set. and if you're wondering about what i'm doing when i'm not on air check me out on twitter at abby martin you likely you see you can follow me there you'll find all my tweets from linking to segments from the show as well as random thoughts i have throughout the day and also please help us get breaking the set trending on twitter page now throw them hash tag we can get on the twitter sphere but only with your help so that twitter check me out at the martin

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