the investigation into the murder of a soldier in london sees two more arrests while the alleged motives behind what's considered a terror attack controversy among the british public and politicians. and buildings ablaze windows smashed unprecedented violence continues for a fifth night in the suburbs of stockholm well the question is looming now whether it's time for sweden to stop being so tolerant. nine inches deep and saying we're making progress the u.s. war on terror rebranded striving to show that efforts are winding down president obama announces steps to speed up guantanamo base closure but defends targeted killings with drones as just and necessary.

world headlines live from moscow this is r t with me thank you for joining us today . the investigation into the harrowing machete murder in london has seen police arresting two more people on suspicion of conspiracy to murder the two men who apparently hacked to death a british soldier in broad daylight remain hospitalized and one of them was recognized by a former radical preacher as a man who converted to islam around a decade ago meanwhile the local community is still reeling from the brutal attack sara for three ports from london. a flag at half mast a grizzly attack with a machete style knife and a murdered soldier his death leaves behind

a two year old son the seemingly behind this crease a max seeking to bring scenes of violence usually seen in war ravaged parts of the world to the london suburb of will in a poignant interview r.t. spoke to an army officer he told us of the reaction among some in the armed forces to remain anonymous anger of the moment and. not scared scared. you never get someone to. be scared i witness accounts of the precise attack details the men chanting islam is slogans as the body of soldier drama leverage be a second battalion the royal regiment you said they only pleading they asked people to d.d.a. then if you listen to the words of the attackers themselves it's clear that they will wish to bring the war which they saw prosecuted on the streets of baghdad and

kabul to the streets of london to speaking at a press conference london mayor boris johnson okayed many senior political figures trying to distance this latest act of violence in the case of recent aid to seize exploits this is not a question of blaming the religion of islam it is certainly not a question of blaming any aspect of british foreign policy or what our british troops are do in operations abroad when they risk our lives on behalf of all of us the london mayor in charge at the time of the london two thousand and five bombings disagrees they are lying they are completely complicit with the united states policy to cite tony blair was with george bush they are prepared to stand and say well we think this strategy has been a disaster it has been just announced not just for the young man killed on the streets of london but for the hundreds of thousands of. people in afghanistan and in iraq who've been killed the simple reality is if you invade other people's

countries they come back it's one side of an argument but one that's going to be weighing heavily on many now that this has hit so close to home you feel less secure i think that's one ace. you think if we went out there then perhaps that be more space scope for al qaeda to produce the sounds they'd be operate more within u.k. because when we're out there with strict and spice and not allowing that freedom then for now then that means their base of operations and he was we can both say the arguments because we're out there we're inspiring them all motivates in them our presence out there is sort of motivating the cells that are back in the u.k. to operate more and carry out more attacks as the police investigation continues that deep sense of guilt and outrage from the local community here in southeast london at the brutal attack and they sentiment echoed across the country as people

struggle to come to terms with how a crime like that could happen here. oxy london. meanwhile the parallels are being drawn between the alleged motives behind the savage london murder and those outlined by the surviving boston marathon bombing suspect for example or the message or show how it's on they are left in the boat he was hiding in he claimed the terror attack was in retribution for u.s. crimes against muslims and in a video message one of the london machete killers also says the attack was an eye for an eye because of british soldiers killing muslims every day another certain similarity in both cases it seems the alleged terrorists acted individually and not as part of a terror network earlier my colleague bill dog discussed this with artie's it. it looks like we're looking at something of a new phenomenon in the so-called open-source jihad there's a website out there it's actually periodical online magazine which provides all

sorts of recipes for disaster literally for example how to make a bomb in the kitchen of your mom from the chef and you can use a pressure cooker in order to do that it says the ingredients are readily available they're not going to cause any suspicion if you're going to purchase them and you will basically get away with murder literally now this is not the only recipe that's out there so to speak they're also talking about techniques to wipe out large numbers of people there are also a dish there's also an addition on how to blow up buildings and so on and so forth as a matter of fact even have in addition targeted. muslim women and suicide bombers and it's positioned as of lifestyle and fashion magazine and it sounds almost borderline observateur or on the borderline funny but it's not because literally there is a plethora of information out there on internet and it basically teaches people how to kill other people and and yet you annoy we can access this security services doing about this because clearly they know where it's coming from go they do

something absolutely yes it does seem like they're actually keeping track of in some instances we know that in both cases there are shady killers as well as this one i brothers were under the radar but the main question of course is why didn't the authorities do anything to prevent the attacks from happening because we're looking at an enormous a number of young men primarily of. muslim faith who are out there reading these websites and there are the target audience of these websites and they can essentially be their own terrorist leaders so you'd think they would be under the cap of the authorities and yet there doesn't seem like the authorities have done anything to prevent these attacks from happening of course to keep people from dying and that is the main problem that we're facing here right now. and just a bit earlier in the program here on r t i spoke to intelligence expert glenmore harvey he explained why such attacks the nearly impossible to predict and to prevent even though our security service five were aware

of these two perpetrators it is almost impossible to predict when people suddenly just almost by happenstance choose the time and place and this poor unfortunate soldier was the target and usually it would walk to the security services will monitor the internet traffic the telephone the mobile phones all of these people and try and follow them to see if there is a pattern and if they are associated in this particular instance the reason they're referred to as lone wolves apparently they didn't have associates they were not part of the planning process we'll learn more as the investigation goes along but this is what is so absolutely terrible someone can be preaching hatred in one instance and not just to muslims of course because the english national league are preaching

a gates muslims they are also preaching hatred but it's an additional step to go from preaching about it to taking the terrible acts action which happened. for a time for you to get involved with us here at odyssey we're looking for your opinion on the stories we covered today particularly this one what do you think might have motivated the brutal murder in london let's see how the views of second dot com right now there's still an overwhelming number of all voters saying well this is just blowback for the u.k.'s military operations in predominantly muslim countries about a fifth convinced it was a random act of violence committed by mentally deranged men and let's get down to the bare minimum nine percent saying it's just a terror act orchestrated by foreigners from abroad never too late for you to get involved in this we're still gauging your pulse and your reaction to who was truly behind the motivation behind these brutal murders in london right now where you can

cost you vote. or at a ten minutes past one in the afternoon here in the russian capital talk about a city on fire that's become the common scene in stockholm where riots have now raged on for a fifth night in a row of young people in immigrant suburbs of the city have torched cars smashed windows they've set buildings ablaze and the violence is to debate on sweden's open immigration policy which has resulted in a mass influx of asylum seekers who many say simply refuse to integrate. all of our reports. nice neat and normal not the type of place you would

expect to see this. speak on the outskirts of stockholm and the epicenter of sweden's issues with race and that's bubbling over in sweden you get welfare you get access to the education system up to university level you get access to public transport to libraries to health care to everything and still they feel that they need to throw stones a molotov cocktails it's ridiculous it's a bad excuse the violence in the usually peaceful city has become a political football the swedish democrats are exploiting these events they make it all about immigration to suit their needs they see being anti immigrant is being produced. for the past week stone throwing in car burning become the norm in this part of town known for its high unemployment predominantly immigrant population all sparked after a sixty nine year old man was gunned down by police while brandishing

a knife that let loose a barrage of emotions it's the state that creates this type of gets wise ation then we've everyone from abroad into these parts of town when it comes to unemployment sweden is below the average of almost one quarter of under twenty five out of work prompting some to say it's time for further action saying a lack of control by government has led them to this situation the police can put these write down in five minutes if the politicians were to allow them. although swedes defer over what caused this week's violence they are in agreement that it's government policy that must be changed to avoid scenes like this being repeated on the streets of stucco peter all of a r.t. sweden. and as the rides continue to rip through stalker some claim the violence has been clearly orchestrated for alterio motives and that's the opinion shared by

los had a god a danish journalist working for a swedish newspaper if you look at similar instances in other parts of europe you'll see in eventually that there is a plan behind that some people would want to gain recognition as stakeholders in society in other words people who would want to be in a goshen a negotiating position these are the authorities and so if they can sort of make things happen and make them go away this proves they have in the local community and they are people that you have to reckon element behind of course much of this these are immigrants that and of course we've got a reputation for opening its doors to immigrants surely that multiculturalism is something that sweden has been successful at over the past so why should that be going on while has not been successful i mean you can see that right now there's been a. it's been an ideology that's been just an agent by the ruling elites actually

that this was a great success and. a great experiment a model for the rest world the fact is that these and why it's better now spreading around the country i don't know if that will continue for a long time but they certainly demonstrate that this success was once was a fiction it never succeeded. well this is our t. live from moscow back with more news after a short break what's online right now at all. but it appears it's created more. coming on shore he woke up. today more details are. coming in from the. north pole.

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this is. just a moment in the world update for now though let's go to president obama because five years after promising to shut down the guantanamo bay prison has finally announced a specific actions to one day make that a reality of the statements came during a speech where he also made it clear that america's war on terror which one ton of my has become a key symbol of will be winding down at the same time though the u.s. leader defended targeting suspected terrorists with drones as just and necessary

now washington correspondent john h. account was following obama's address. president obama says he's appointing new people new on voice at the state department and the pentagon who will specifically work on the transfers of one ton of detainees it is not really specify when the transfers will begin or how this will be done but he did say the administration is lifting the ban on transfers to yemen the yemenis are the largest single group of prisoners added on and on those six out of eighty six detainees who've been cleared for release are from yemen and president obama also says he asked congress to lift restrictions on bringing the detainees to the u.s. to be tried by military commissions here in the state looks like after all these years of inaction indifference and then just this one time of detainees finally got a president obama's attention whether it was just really sad that it took a massive hunger strike and so much physical suffering for them to be heard remember we've heard president obama talk about closing the prison five years ago nothing happened moreover he signed

a law that made indefinite detention illegal he shut down the office of the state department that was working on the transfers and just two months ago a pentagon official was in congress asking for nearly two hundred million dollars to renovate the prison so just a little while ago the prospect of closing the prison seemed so very distant and now it seems we could be seeing some action on the part of the administration but president obama has never been a guantanamo fan his preferred strategy is targeted assassinations the administration has been very secretive about how they determine the targets innocent people have died in those strikes and it has contributed to the growth of extremism in places like pakistan but we've heard the president mitigate the adverse effect that the drone strikes are having he of course underscored that the drones keep u.s. troops out of the battlefield he spoke extensively about how much he likes drones as opposed to other military strategies at one point he said putting u.s. troops on the ground would trigger an international crisis would lead to more anger among the locals which begs the question where the bombing from air does not

trigger an international crisis or whether the local somehow like being bombed more than being shot it the u.n. has questioned the legality of the use of drones and here's how the president addressed the issue america cannot take strikes wherever we choose our actions are bound by consultations with partners and respect for state sovereignty. america does not take strikes to punish individuals we act against terrorists who pose a continuing and imminent threat to the american people when the president talks about consultations with other countries one should mention that you have the whole population of pakistan it's the men unanimously opposing the drone strike so the administration may be in consultation with the governments of those countries but obviously not the people there the president said this wednesday he signed a presidential policy guidance on the use of drones which is supposed to lead to establishment of some guidelines oversight and accountability now also on the issue

of legality did mr ation still operate under the congress authorization for the use of military force adopted in two thousand and one which says the u.s. is at war with al qaeda and its affiliates based on the threats that the president talked about in the speech and he talked about the threat coming from al qaeda a few different parts of the world the war on terror is still on and the drones are here to stay. he's going to come and so obama's failed first time commitment to shut down guantanamo bay has started another lap but a former detainee from the camp. he told us he believes the u.s. is trying to get away with a crime and then not being thanked for it. i don't think anybody's going to be singing the praises of obama any time soon because he's already made a promise for we will go and he will close the place the words of malcolm x. you don't take a nice stick in a man's back nine inches deep and pull it back five inches and say we're making progress if they're cleared for release and why don't you released him now it is

about the process it could well take a year or more we want the criminals they were the criminals the criminality was done against us torture is criminality kidnap is criminality rendition is criminality torture is criminality all of these things were done to us we didn't do this to anybody we were interrogated by the world's most powerful law enforcement and intelligence agencies and after years of all this we still had no charges against us and after years of all of this prisoner still the overwhelming majority of them are still no charges against him so it's simply not even worth discussing it. obama's ironclad way of battling terrorists are certainly sparked heated debate during his speech in washington at one point the president was stopped in his tracks by an angry audience member my colleague i've across he outlined what made the woman break obama's scripted autocue something that we haven't seen really before was that the presidential veneer the the obama veneer was punctured

somewhat by a heckler in the audience and i think we can have a listen and have a look at how about adultery here we went on through. we went on. i. were addressing. the heckler was media benjamin code pink with the heckling itself and that it took place is a real indication of. angry people are as far as we could pick up on the audio she she she pretty much addressed every element of obama's obama speech so she called on him to compensate families who have been destroyed by joint strike drone strikes

and she called on them to close guantanamo bay call called on him to release the prisoners who have been set for release trips ten years from the what he dealt with he's a consummate performer and he dealt with it very well as any politician of his stature would. point to the fact that free speech allowed this lady to have her opinion and he felt she went on a bit and i think about stagey after a minute or so we've had certainly had enough for me the key takeaway is. the policy of. strikes it needs to be changed obama is definitely trying to move responsibility drone strikes out of the shadow of the cia and into the department of defense and he's certainly trying to do something about guantanamo i think the key takeaway the key lesson is that these two elements of u.s. policy of the so-called war on terror are absolutely unsustainable. right now speaking of obama's drone based war on terrorism a foreign policy analyst dr khan hallinan who feels the u.s.

is intent on justifying the killing machines despite the fact they've been proven to be counterproductive. one of the reasons why i think they're ratcheting back to drone war is because international law issues involved here because central intelligence agency is a civilian organization and according to the geneva conventions civilians cannot be involved in an actual warfare in the shooting part of warfare and c.a.'s of civilian organizations i think that's one of the reasons why they're moving to the defense department to sort of cover themselves on the possibility charge for violations of international law and the geneva conventions according to the sort of independent evaluations of the impact of the drone strikes fewer than two percent of the bomb in a terrorist leaders al-qaeda leaders accept or have been killed by these drones the majority of people are still really hard to say i mean a lot of them are civilians and then the drone war has not been

a great success and it has generated a huge amount of anger in the rest of the world unfortunately not a great deal in the united states. now led if the day here are not to be modern discussing america's future of fighting terrorism of course that's and breaking the set before we get the let's have a very quick preview. americans are deeply ambivalent about war. but having fought for our independence we know a price must be paid for freedom a price for freedom let me just break down how costly this so-called freedom has just been in the last twelve years over six thousand six hundred u.s. servicemen and women have been killed in iraq and afghanistan but the civilian death count is much more grave and yemen and pakistan drone strikes have killed almost three thousand four hundred people so that's a really heavy human cost for that so-called freedom and i'm not even talking about the six trillion dollar price tag of the afghanistan and iraq wars according to

a new harvard study so has the war on terror really been keeping us free what other well known constructs that obama outlined in his foreign policy speech today. ok before technology update. we go now with the lebanese port city of tripoli where syria the violence has raged into its sixth day with fierce gun battles between sunni fighters and members of the alawite community at least twenty four people are reported to have been killed and dozens injured so far fighting between sudanese who support the uprising in neighboring syria and alawite suit by president assad green particularly fierce in recent days reports suggest the army could be about to roll on in. a british airways plane has made an emergency landing at london's

heathrow airport after an engine caught fire and all those on board were safely evacuated and the plane was carrying seventy five passengers and was on route to oslo but was forced to turn back shortly after takeoff both of those runways were closed following the incident although since all this one of them has reopened. a spectacular fire broke out in a fuel death row north of brazil's capital rio de janiero at least one person the forty three year old man was killed in the inferno six giant fuel containers of the storage site caught on fire by sending flames up to fifty meters high forcing firefighters to evacuate nearby schools and houses according to officials the or the owner of the death row petro gold had lost his license to operate but continued doing so pending a court appeal. where the hundred farmers here in half an hour's time but for now it's a nerd alert gizmos and gadgets abound with technology doesn't just

a moment live from moscow this is artsy. paranoia and zero tolerance policies strikes yet again the latest in a string of children being punished for making gun noises or playing with toy guns involves a son of a u.s. marine who had the audacity as a child to use his imagination and p. pretended his pencil was a gun banger children imitate what they see and every t.v. channel and in many video games kids are going to see a lot of guns in fact the boy at that moment was admirably pretending to be just like his father a us marine you know guns kind of come with that job description rather than complain you all again about the obvious idiocy of zero tolerance policies against

children playing let me give. the problem there are so many teachers and school administrators across america that i bet many of you know one of them try talking then what are the maddest of zero tolerance a lot of people do things just because they were told to or they never thought about it before so please dear friends try to get teachers you know to actually think about it i can complain on t.v. all day long but one conversation from a friend or relative really could change many people's minds maybe but that's just my opinion.