the latest news in the week's top stories here in britain security social integration and foreign policy are under scrutiny following the. alleged extremists in london. the peace and quiet of stockholm is disrupted point seven unprecedented nights of riots sparked by the death of an immigrant. and angered by a tech giant monsanto unites two million protesters across the globe with people accusing the corporation of endangering health and. the food market.

with an attack at the past seven days top stories and the latest developments this is live in moscow the u.k. security services are under fire for failing to prevent the brutal daylight murder of a soldier in london on wednesday six suspects have been arrested so far and at least two of them have been tracked by m i five for years while it was allegedly even offered a job by the agency the killing of muslims by british forces overseas was used as justification for the attack but despite fresh fears of homegrown terror you get official defending the country's foreign policy is reports. a flag at half mast a grizzly attack with a machete style knife and a murdered soldier his death leaves behind a two year old son the seemingly behind this crease a max seeking to bring scenes of violence usually seen in war ravaged parts of the world to the london suburb of will in a poignant interview r.t.

spoke to an army officer he told us of the reaction among some in the armed forces to remain anonymous anger of the moment and. not scared maybe scared you never hear someone. here may be scared i witness accounts of the priest attack detailed the men chanting is limited slogans as the body of soldier drama leverage be a second battalion the royal regiment of futile is pleading they asked people to video then if you listen to the words of the attackers themselves it's clear that they will wish to bring the war which they saw prosecuted on the streets of baghdad and to the streets of london to speaking at a press conference london mayor boris johnson okayed many senior political figures by trying to distance this latest act of violence from the recent data seize exploits this is not a question of blaming the religion of islam it is certainly not

a question of blaming any aspect of british foreign policy or what british troops are do in operations abroad when they risk our lives on behalf of all of us the london mayor in charge at the time of the london two thousand and five bombings disagrees they are lying they are completely complicit with the united states policy to cite tony blair was george bush. prepared to stand and say well we think this strategy has been a disaster it has been a disaster not just for the young man killed on the streets of london but for the hundreds of thousands of. people in afghanistan and in iraq who've been killed a simple reality if you invade other people's countries they come back it's one side of an argument but one that's going to be weighing heavily on many now that this has hit so close to home you feel less secure i think that's what.

you think if we went out there then perhaps a bit more space and scope for al-qaeda to produce the cells they'd be operating more within the u.k. because when we're out there we're constructing the space and not allowing them that freedom of maneuver out there and that means their base of operations over here is we both say the arguments we made because we're out there we're inspiring the more motivating them our presence out there is sort of motivating the cells that back in the u.k. to operate more and carry out more attacks as the police investigation continues that deep sense of guilt and outrage from the local community here in southeast london at that brutal attack and they think from an educated across the country as people struggle to come to terms with how a crime like that could happen here. r.t. london in the wake of the killing karen up by alleged islamists a series of attacks on muslims are mosques of taking place across britain

ultranationalists rallied and clashed with police in several cities a number of people have been arrested for racially motivated assault more than one hundred fifty such incidents have been reported in the u.k. since wednesday's killing well earlier i discussed the reasons behind the latest violence with in editor of politics talk about u.k. and colors cotillion from the right wing british national party. what could a should be responsible immigration custody a to get to us you have get across the u.k. people who find difficulties who will find you to integrate. all right and they don't want a lawyer to find that example it's immigration isn't working it's irresponsible and there isn't enough included in this information on these that know that you know that on so of course the major. major major problem with what he's saying is that

this acts of terrorism really conducted by the far right you very generously describe the b.n.p. as a right wing party idea they're not right wing they're far right they're a fascist party and the acts of violence that they are trained against mosques against property the threats against muslims these are also acts of terrorism these are also acts of violence by non-state actors for political means well i got to learn from and how to do something to do with my how to help like honestly because of that isolation here is done by right wing fanatics and i have to come. to. the other person who's talking he said noting completely fucked i personally have an open dialogue with muslim communities that recently i had the bait with muslim communities in books in but the city in london about these very issues of religion. for employees. will be voters will tell you about the.

issue of these racist you should learn about what are you know proud of on ok just listen to mr dunn now please but you know i wouldn't don't know we don't know we don't. have websites people from east. from we people from from they. let me really judge their members it also implies to me that i went. and some other lunatics who also agree with your demented view of the world however that does not mean that you know what is their what is their mission actually was he is the us or are you not yet if you just go just for a visit don't you know just off the shore to the british people know there are a pull by what's happened they want to stroll response from government they don't want a reaction that could be tempered by fears of political incorrectness what should be done there's going to be some strong reaction surely political correctness really has no connection to where the you have a viable response to a terrorist incident stopping terrorism is about having joined up services by

intelligence agencies by the police by mental health authorities by schools by the muslim community these are the kind of sensible out moves that you take to prevent violence the issue. we have a social problem combined with out these us first foreign policy. these with god for the rights of other countries and of course people who who are leaving in isolation more links with the outside world than with it. and when the british governments go on the rampage of course they are angry. over sort of failure of integration. m i five agent on emotions says there's growing frustration among muslims over deadly western interventions around the world. individualistic lone wolf style attacks which don't require great planning

don't require from for specialist equipment or anything will become perhaps one of the main ways that people make protests and it's a horrific attack there is no doubt about it and my heart goes out to the family of the victim but what we're looking at is also an angry voice yelling out from north africa from the middle east from central asia from all the people that been brutalized by the interventionist policies of the u.s. of the u.k. of nato or france i mean not just iraq and afghanistan but libya in mali in some in yemen and of course what we're looking at is a whole country that's been decimated now by the cia kill ists which are a presidential you proved in the u.s. every week and also drone strikes which are not targeted they take out a whole villages communities and wedding parties even so of course there's going to be anger meanwhile french police are investigating an apparent copycat attack in paris where a soldier was stabbed the nearly killed suspect reportedly

a bearded man of north african origin is on the run with a manhunt underway but the french president has stopped short of linking the attack to the london murder activists and journalists are concerned that the violence will be used to demonize muslims and draw attention from failed government policies. these type of attacks plays into the strategy of the state to promote a false sense of islam so then is done so what people of the masses around the world can see wrongly as islam is a disgusting version of the face and in so doing criminalizes all muslims around the world and then they use these groups in asia to conduct the stabilisation of the french can go in and pretending to be the neutral arbitrators bringing peace and stability this is a big game or theater smoke and mirrors that really has to be distracted from a position that is opposing western hegemony as part of the state strategy is to make sure that everyone is pointing fingers at everyone but the actual arbitrators

of the economic crisis of police corruption of unjust and immoral foreign policy i.e. those in power in front seven consecutive days of street violence have smashed stock homes images and i did extend a navy in city despite additional units being sent from sweden's other regions police have not been able to curb the youth riots they first ignited in an immigrant neighborhood last sunday but spread beyond the capital this week the people of investigates the core of the unrest. nice neat and normal not the type of place you would expect to see this. who speak on the outskirts of stockholm and the epicenter of sweden's issue with race and that's bubbling over in sweden you get welfare you get access to the education system up to university level you get access to public transport to libraries to health care to everything and still they feel that they need to throw stones or molotov

cocktails it's ridiculous it's a bad excuse the violence in the usually peaceful city has become a political football the swedish democrats are exploiting these events they make it all about immigration to suit their needs they see being anti immigrant as being. for the past week stone throwing in car burning become the norm in this part of town known for its high unemployment predominantly immigrant population all sparked after a sixty nine year old man was gunned down by police while brandishing a knife that let loose a barrage of emotions it's the state that creates this type of get so i ization they move everyone from abroad into these parts of town when it comes to unemployment sweden is below the average there were almost one quarter of under twenty five out of work prompting some to say it's time for further action saying a lack of control by government has led them to the situation the police can put

the ride down in five minutes if the politicians were to allow them although swedes defer over what caused this week's violence they are in agreement that it's government policy that must be changed to avoid scenes like this being repeated on the streets of stockholm peter all over r.t. sweden. you're watching the weekly here in our tease still to come this hour a lot of promises. he claims that he is going to further limit is murder by drone program the u.s. president obama talks national security leaving exposed to wonder whether his new promises will be can. the woman is put behind bars in the u.k. simply for wanting to look after her dying father details of that just ahead. but first on thursday president obama ordered a review of the justice department's investigations of associated press and fox

news the government says it seized journalist records over concerns that leaking classified security information comes amid what is seen as washington's intensified persecution of whistleblowers or he's going to put none of this report he's the australian wiki leaks founder holed up in the ecuadorian embassy on u.k. soil and across the atlantic members of the american press corps are learning what it feels like to receive the julian a songe treatment the justice department subpoenaed in obtaining the telephone records of the associated press over a two month period without any notice think about the harm done to the a.p. here you know object of interest to intimidate people who talk to reporters the department of justice wasn't just targeting the associated press apparently it also went after fox news reporter our very own james rosen what you've got here is a situation where somehow now journalism has been criminalized dozens of journalists have been secretly investigated by the justice department for reporting

on national security issues government officials secretly obtained reporters' phone logs and personal e-mails trying to find out who leaked classified information to the press even if you side with this president over those of us in the media who challenge him and. porton to remember the president these action set going forward perhaps when it's not your guy in the white house the guy currently residing in the white house has prosecuted more whistleblowers under the espionage act than all other administrations combined and now experts say u.s. news outlets are being persecuted just like wiki leaks has been and the obama administration has really taken the executive branch powers have been committed aiding the free press from under the bush administration and exponentially multiplied them addressing the nation this week the us president said journalists should not be at legal risk for doing their jobs but leakers will pay the price i

believe we must keep information secret that protects our operations and our people in the field. to do so we must enforce consequences for those who break the law and breach their commitment to protect classified information however some think the lines are becoming increasingly blurred this is the first time. you know national security has been used to get reporters i mean that really is for and try to name because it's usually used to get leakers so if the bombing ministration releases justice department thinks that they can use criminal laws to get journalists because they're coconspirators i mean honestly that's one of the worst things i've come across and all the years i've been doing this the new yorker magazine has pulled a page from wiki leaks to protect those who want to share something the u.s. government doesn't want revealed it launched an open source dropbox where people

can send leaked documents and messages without their identities ever being known the underlying code for strongbox was co-created by our assess inventor and open source activist aaron swartz he committed suicide in january at the age of twenty six while facing a federal trial and thirty five years in prison u.s. prosecutors were targeting swartz for downloading millions of online academic articles journalists are employed with the responsibility of informing the public and holding a lectern officials accountable the first amendment of the constitution protects press freedom but all one has to do is look at recent events to know that doesn't always happen reporting from new york port ny r.t. later this hour we talked extensively about press freedom in the u.s. with vice chairman of the new york times' james good though mr interview that's coming up shortly here on o.t. .

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conserve resources. chucked in a was one of the protests in new york. throughout the world and in dozens of cities across the united states weekend of action against monsanto takes place here in the heart of the protests in the big apple were hundreds of people have been marching through the streets of the city demanding that monsanto put an end to its actions the corporate giant the biotech global giant has been very controversial its existence for over a century accused of genetically engineered and genetically modified agriculture and food accused of turning a blind eye on the health consequences of the food that it produces had also of immense lobbying powers that it has in washington d.c. for one accused of sleeping in the same bed really with politicians blocking any kind of legislation that would make life for morning have months and to more

difficult and promoting and pushing through legislation that protects the rights of this biotech giant these companies are manipulating the food chain to their own advantage for monetary gain there's a few people making a lot of money and we deserve to have better than that there may be no way to fully tackle the machine and even vote which monsanto mud santo in the government award we have a supreme court justice who is a lawyer for the month sent to a corporation how much independence do we have really in our government all of these people that have come out onto the streets according to our estimates throughout the world it's hundreds of thousands of people protesting this weekend in local marches against monsanto what they're demanding is a labeling object most and also demanding further scientific research into genetically engineered genetically modified products and food and what they're hoping is that these big corporations such as monsanto at least begin to have less

power and the voice of the people is heard that legislators begin to. stand what it is that people want especially in the united states where any kind of significant legislation against monsanto has traditionally been blocked by legislators. artsy new york. had to a website called for an extensive report on how the day of action against the tech giant unraveled across the world and in just over an hour here on r.t. a chilling feature in hell even the most traditional foods be genetically modified . some of these traditional chili lines they've been bred and developed and passed down from generation to. this is a total destruction of the culture of mexico by telling them i mean this is not going to impact asylum in mexico whatever happens here. now we're eating out of our products in the in the open. source. genetically engineered

crops why do you think this country is full of obese and sick people because we have a crappy food system. communal way a little later. a secret court in the u.k. is put some people behind bars just for trying to take care of their own relatives one woman whose father was pronounced mentally ill was locked away but since the hearings are behind closed doors it's hard to know why. investigate. when john maddox was diagnosed with dementia his children ivan and wanda intended to give him the best care they could but they clashed with social workers and their local council which took the family to the secret court of protection it ruled that the eight year old lack the mental capacity to make his own decisions and needed to

live in a special care home he didn't want to be in a home basically told he didn't want to be in a home. he wants to either want to go with one to the final home that he went i'm swear to god to look after and not. the court makes rulings on behalf of citizens deemed to one well to be responsible for their own affair as it has power to take control of assets and separate family members all in secret wonder and i even wanted allowed to take their father out of the state run facility or even discuss his living arrangements with him but he kept on asking me want to go home but i did not tell him that it didn't mean i was any more they got it because one of the court protection the sickos will do whatever they want with finances in its house what watch are going to be locked up in these rooms weeklong . i don't feel free. in order to mount

a legal challenge to the secret court ruling wonder took her father to see a solicitor one day tried to draw attention to the case but was sentenced to prison for contempt of the secret court so instead of caring for her father like she wanted to she had to spend two months in here in the company of criminals i cried the fierce two days i was in the prison i cried because nobody you treated like an ardent criminals in michigan and there you really cannot challenge the question as to whether somebody has mental capacity or not without talking to them and she was in prison firstly for taking her father to see a solicitor in birmingham which makes it sound quite peculiar well in a sense it's worse than dr drew conan because draco would not have gone that far when i was in the jail i was frightened because he lets them into a phone calls so i was afraid to speak to dad. because i'm the commission's report on is and also you know in case they got in more trouble meanwhile her brother and

i even watched their father's health deteriorate and that the strain of her absence in the end when he moved into that final home that was the end of him and he wanted it wanted still moved him anything i said you got to know this she divorce. she's put herself in prison port. observers say the difficulty with justice behind closed doors is that no one knows if the law is being followed the evidence is heard in private defendants often lack legal representation and aren't allowed to publicize their case their mess and it is giving the state too much power to intervene in people's lives preventing people complaining about what's being done to them is never right the government's faced a barrage of criticism over the practice of secret justice justice secretary chris grayling has said i have written to the president of the court to ask him to look at what steps can be taken to increase transparency while continuing to protect the interest of vulnerable adults but john maddox never got to go to his home or to his

family he died in january of this year it's worried me what they're doing that taken away from and the world and what's going on to us when we get older you know you've got to be really careful. not to say like polyploid are stoke on trent what you know weekly live here naughty still ahead for you this israelis fighting for syria's embattled leader and techno dancing protesters clashing with swiss police stay right where you are the news continues it's the weekly on r.t. . although i was born after the vietnam era i remember t.v. discussions about that buddhist monk who burned himself to death as a form of protest the commentators on the news said that people there just have

a different mindset that westerners could never understand you know which is probably true but they were implying that people in the west are just different and would never use this absolutely extreme form of protest which is also probably true until just recently with the cost of electricity exceeding the income of the average bulgarian and a new government coming to power that looks exactly like the old government that collapsed at least six ball gary and have used self-immolation as a very desperate and extreme form of protest but why kristen ghodsee a professor at bowdoin college who has extensively talked to bulgaria protesters claims that those who self-immolating are just incredibly desperate and cannot feed their own children and that people are actually becoming a stealth check for communism because at least that system at the people's basic needs the current democratic system from the populace perspective according to her just cycles through a few new crooks every few years although it does get media attention and you may be feeling desperate suicide is never an answer the more living bulgarians the

better ball garry's chances believe me but that's just my opinion.

weekly continues here on t.v. this week president obama unveiled a new face to the war on terror well speaking about america's national defense policies he called for more transparency in drone strikes stressing they are only

a way they are the only way to combat insurgents for the first time a bomb of knowledge that four american citizens have been killed in counterterrorism drone strikes since two thousand and nine author and activist david swanson believes they only serve to recruit even more terrorists. he claims that he is going to further limit his murder by drone program including applying these arbitrary criteria met in secret by himself to his own satisfaction to non americans at least in certain countries countries other than afghanistan and yet he's not provided publicly any documentation of the claims he's made thus far i mean if if he would rather have captured our or our locky why did he not indict him with with any criminal charges or provide any evidence to anyone that he was guilty of any criminal act this is this is not transparency and if these reforms and

limitations are needed on this program then what of the conduct of this program here too for not as criminal and abusive as it appears and for the second time in five years barack obama promised to shut guantanamo bay and promised to lift his own moratorium on transferring detainees to yemen over one hundred of the one hundred sixty six prisoners in the notorious camp of been starving themselves for almost four months in protest against indefinite detention without challenge one form of god at the prison says his guantanamo experience has left him psychologically scarred. some of the some of the tactics that i saw practice in guantanamo i just never really want to wish to relive again oh mark potter and a number of other detainees they were privileged to something we called the frequent flyer program that essential to move them every two hours whether removing them from camp delta camp echo or moving them from bravo block to charlie block be

it a little move or a big move the idea was that every two hours they would be moved and they wouldn't be able to sleep this was essentially thought to wear down their psyche and make them more. probable to give up information during interrogation the only reason the detainees are being force fed is that the u.s. military or rather the powers that be are scared that these men have enough conviction to literally starve to death and they know that if these men do starve to death it will make the u.s. look bad in a global perspective as it stands right now they wasted so many millions of dollars of taxpayer money in one but if you just devoted another four hundred fifty million i think that's just perfect evidence right there there's no intention to close that one where the. some news in brief now two rockets have hit the has been the district of the lebanese capital beirut and even at least five people injured you text concern that syria's conflict may spin into lebanon which is similar sectarian

divides this comes benny a day off to the lebanese has been on the promise victory to his and i president assad while condemning us and israel for supporting the rebels has been or is now helping the tsunami to push opposition forces out of that strongholds. sixty one people have been arrested following violent clashes at a techno music protest parade and. police used water cannons and tear gas on the capital is hardliners known as the black bloc clashes broke out when the protesters attempted to tear down temporary barricades blocking parliament. tens of thousands of people protesting in central paris at the country's new same sex marriage and adoption act came into force a week ago the demonstrators say they want to show their opposition to present a land for prioritizing the issue over the economy france is now the ninth country in europe to legalize gay marriage gay marches have ended in clashes between the

far right and the police. as fighting rages across syria the chances of the conflict crossing borders appeared ever more real this week israeli and syrian government forces exchanged artillery fire across the disputed golan heights and as i explained at least one community in israel ready to defend syria. we're ready to die defending our people strong words from a chef preparing young men to go and fight in syria except his recruits are not rebel fighters or soldiers in damascus they're israeli druze a minority islamic offshoot we need to go help defend the community in syria and president assad we have relatives there are people are there and they were attacking them in the name of islam the tipping point came after rebels targeted this village of near the israeli syrian border and killed seven people by the

hundreds israeli jews volunteers started signing up. i would be honored to be the first man who crosses the border to defend the druze community simon why did works in an israeli factory but feels it's only a matter of time before he'll be asked to cross the border into syria. i hope that they won't need us but you can't know what will happen now the situation in the druze villages is stable but if this changes we will go for it we are waiting for the orders from our shakes and we are totally ready for the. israeli jews who live in communities in the gulf and the golan heights after the forty eight and sixty seven wars they found themselves cut off from the families in syria after israel occupied the heights those who live here on the israeli syrian border are wizards of israel that see themselves as syrian then loyal to the alawite regime who they see as a minority like in cells they live in fear for their families in syria after the level of salt on the village we are under attack and they are under foreign attack

they are using foreign soldiers to fight inside syria and some syrians are helping them. some have other ways to fight back this man goes door to door selling his book about a respected share all the proceeds go across the border. the druze community in israel collected one million dollars and sent it to the syrian druze and from my ability. we collected one million shackles people paid what they could in order to help their relatives in syria. the call to fight has not yet been made but as the conflict in syria starts to spread beyond its borders more and more communities are being torn in some million regions says here run deep and when a relative is killed the tete a tete. is likely to last for years but we are just waiting for an opportunity to help and we are ready to give our lives. on the israel syria border.

where you can head to the dot com to find out help moscow has decided to play it safe when it comes to defense sales to syria while halting a deal to sell advanced missiles worth up to a billion dollars to damascus for fear they could fall into the wrong hands. from one of them what it takes to win a scholarship in the lead to produce teenagers pretend to be the prime minister and justify the army shooting and killing twenty five protesters. those stories and others that are coming up as we talk press freedom in the u.s. with the vice chairman of the new york times james goodell a lot about the news team with more news for you in twenty minutes from now. some of these traditional chili lines they've been bred and developed and passed on

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. my current guest knows firsthand what it's like to go up against the u.s. government in defense of the first amendment james goodell was general counsel and vice chair of the new york times when the pentagon papers were published and he joins our team now for an exclusive sit down interview mr goodell thank you for taking time to speak with me you know i'm glad to be here in your new book fighting for the press inside the story of the pentagon papers and other battles you indicate that president nixon it was out to destroy the new york times but you also argue that if president obama succeeds at prosecuting julian assange he will be worse than nixon for press freedom why so well let me just say one thing about

nixon he was out to destroy the new york times he was out to destroy brookings institution a lot of his in the united states. president obama is not out to destroy the times what we're talking about is narrow it's not so narrow but a discrete area which is the relationship of the press to national security pentagon papers case a case about national security now in that area nixon was terrible ok he happened to also be heir terrible in the whole first amendment area obama by contrast ok in the first amendment area but not ok in national security why because obama as first of all pursued six leakers that's the for a spat thing he's done a second bad thing he's done is he pursued a guy who got

a leak whose name is james ries and now what am i worried about he's also per suing julian assize i say if he pursues julian assize and says julia sonce is a coconspirator. then he'll be and succeeds he'll be worse than nixon because it's and try to pursue the new york times and its reporters saying they were coconspirators nixon failed so while most succeeds where nixon failed you'll be worse than nixon so in this context you if you julian a songe as the publisher similar to the new york times similar to the guardian and all the other news outlets that then published what julian a songe disclosed through wiki leaks right there saying that it's the same thing if everyone's on the same point it's like if you have a web site yourself and you publish this interview you're a publisher u.s. officials maintain that that julian assange compromised national security by

publishing classified documents as you know in america you know sometimes first amendment is trumped by national security issues when information is disclosed that could threaten the lives of soldiers on the battlefield or threaten the lives of americans here at home do you believe honestly that killing or saw a sign should face no consequences whatsoever yes that's right and so why you know the same claims were made about the new york times when the pubs print the papers it was a strong national security it was drawing. so forth and so the first amendment in that case trumped. the claim of the nixon administration now here you've got to ask yourself well what is the first amendment blame. the claim is that a son's can be punished if in fact there is no clear and present

danger to the country and if you look at the stuff that has songs published. i would argue there's no clear and present danger to the country i mean it's been three years where's the danger i mean you're still here and i'm still here all claims sound terrible when it comes to nasa security but when you look backwards at them which is what i do in my book this is the pentagon papers i look back through the facts of what happened in the pentagon papers and nobody home nothing there no damage now security you have to look at these claims with a jaundiced eye because after a period of time you take a look at him and there's no danger as you mention the obama administration has prosecuted more a legit leakers than i under the espionage act than all previous administrations combined. do you believe that leakers.